How is it possible ? ( cover )

[didledee]

Firstly i think the game is fantastic , so im not really hating on it , got me headset today and things are even more sweeet . Im quite a good player i think as my stats are pretty good in all games . However ...

 

...What gets me is how can you be killed when your in cover ??!??

 

O.k let me explain, say your in a Team Deathmatch and you get yourself in cover behind a building . You can see your opponent(s) down street/motorway/whatever . You wait for a good chance to rather manuel aim or auto aim and fire some bullets . Then if you try to take the opponent out in like 2 or 3 goes of cover then shoot cover then shoot or run out of ammo you get fully behind the building , so not in view only maybe by the blip or on radar .

 

But how can you get killed ?

 

I never knew bullets could go though concrete

 

IS IT 'COS WHEN I FIRED AT SOMEONE THEY HAD ME ON AUTO AIM FOR A SPLIT SECOND ( OR ANOTHER PLAYER ) EVEN THOUGH IM BEHIND SOMETHING THEY CAN STILL HIT ME ?

 

IS THIS JUST A LAME DIG AT THE GAME

 

T'IS ANNOYING .

 

 

 

 

[BlackMilk]

Most likely just someone else who was shooting at you.

But if you say that there were no enemies nearby and you didn't see any blips on the map, I won't challenge you on that since I wasn't there myself.

 

I really don't know - perhaps lag then? Might not sound like much of a cause, but try looking for inconsistencies in the game around the time that something like that happens. You know, moving 'npc' cars which suddenly disappear, shifting or 'teleporting' players, pedestrians or vehicles, stuff like that.

 

Logically I'd think that if a player with lag and skip across short distances while moving, maybe bullets can too.

Like (I don't know about the game's programming and stuff like that, just a wild guess), a player is locked on to you, he's real laggy, and he's your enemy. You're shooting at him, and he shoots back, and the game is about to register a hit on you. Maybe the bullet wasn't actually fired due to lag until you were behind cover and then it hit you?

I'm probably wrong but I'm just tossing ideas around here.

[didledee]

You know people have mentioned lag , but every game i have had as been smooth and great ( unlike Pro Evo 08 ) , but i undertstand your point like.

 

Ws playing like 4 Team Deatmatches last night and usually the teams would stay together ( just a couple of players trying to run you over in a vehicle ) so they were all down the street . When im in cover and an opponent dies i quickly check were they have respawned , just in case they do behind me , therefore making me come out of cover in that place .

 

Doesn't happen all time but a few times that make you think how is that possible ?

 

Once a guy fired a Rocket launcher at a car and it redirected reet into me . i was like wooo what happend there

[Xamot]

usually, to be in a firing position from a cover spot, you have to be at the edge of the cover boundary exposing a hand, arm, or even part of your head depending on the object.

 

now, were you in a firing position, or totally 2 feet back from the edge of the corner in a safe spot?

[BlackMilk]

Hmmm, well personally the one time I got continuously spawn-raped (by one guy) was in Free Mode, we weren't near any objects that could act as actual cover, and we were both painfully aware of eachother's presence, unfortunately. But I haven't experienced what you described - does it only happen in games like TDM? Or has it also occurred while fighting NPC's like cops or the enemies on the target ship of Bomb Da Base II?

 

And the RPG, yeah that's really weird. They already swirl all over the place, that makes it worse

Though even worse'd be to fire a rocket at an enemy's car and to instead, accidentally hit a teammate with it. Yeah that would suck.

[didledee]

usually, to be in a firing position from a cover spot, you have to be at the edge of the cover boundary exposing a hand, arm, or even part of your head depending on the object.

 

now, were you in a firing position, or totally 2 feet back from the edge of the corner in a safe spot?

It happens when ive just shot at someone whilst still in cover , i get your point about the exposed arm for like manuel aim .

 

It happens whilst getting to the ' 2 feet back ' surely if youve just come out of auto aim ( ammo ran out etc ) but still in cover and fully behind a wall they cant see your arm , head etc . Especially if your character is against the wall and you only use your camera/or use the radar to see were you opponents are .

 

When im in a narrow alley i soemtimes think maybe theve missed me hit the wall behind me and theve bounced back and killed me that way .

 

 

This might sound confusing , but today i had a reet muppet screamign at me down mic . Was playing Deathmatch at the Docks and this guy was hidden behind one of those gas tanks /cylinder things , I could still see is legs lol and he was going like how the f*ck did you do that you F***cking ****

[BlackMilk]

That's like standing upright in front of a cardboard box, thinking it will provide cover for your head.

Yeah sounds like a muppet to me, what an idiot xD

[didledee]

- does it only happen in games like TDM? Or has it also occurred while fighting NPC's like cops or the enemies on the target ship of Bomb Da Base II?

 

 

Nah it doesn't happen in the co-op games . Just when playing a TDM/DM .

 

 

[Xamot]

usually, to be in a firing position from a cover spot, you have to be at the edge of the cover boundary exposing a hand, arm, or even part of your head depending on the object.

 

now, were you in a firing position, or totally 2 feet back from the edge of the corner in a safe spot?

It happens when ive just shot at someone whilst still in cover , i get your point about the exposed arm for like manuel aim .

 

It happens whilst getting to the ' 2 feet back ' surely if youve just come out of auto aim ( ammo ran out etc ) but still in cover and fully behind a wall they cant see your arm , head etc . Especially if your character is against the wall and you only use your camera/or use the radar to see were you opponents are .

 

When im in a narrow alley i soemtimes think maybe theve missed me hit the wall behind me and theve bounced back and killed me that way .

 

 

This might sound confusing , but today i had a reet muppet screamign at me down mic . Was playing Deathmatch at the Docks and this guy was hidden behind one of those gas tanks /cylinder things , I could still see is legs lol and he was going like how the f*ck did you do that you F***cking ****

it doesn't matter.. manual or auto.. even blind fire.. if you are at the firing boundary of a cover object some of your body, if not your gun and shoulder, will be visible. add to this, that some objects deteriorate or peel back as they are shot, even more of you would be exposed.

 

the only time you are entirely safe behind cover is if you are away from the edge and in a non firing position where the reticle is not able to point forward.

[Gossmer]

cover never works, I just go all out and hunt.

 

I die alot but I get even more kills.

[500ml]

Sometimes it's just someone else who shot you from the back, but I've had times where I've been in cover and away from the edge of the building (so not shooting) and I've been shot and killed through concrete. This hasn't happened for a while though.