GTA4 is already boring me:(

[Fuzzknuckles]

Only a fanboy can play IV religiously.

Then I must be a fan boy. I hate to admit it, but I must be.

 

The safehouses in SA had nothing to do in them, other than that stupid game. There was nothing in the casinos that was fun. There was never more than 10 people on the street at any time of day. The cars had sh*tty handling in comparison to IV. The Fire/Ambulance missions were dreary and no fun to play. They were also incredibly unrealistic. Mount Chiliad was a waste of space and didn't provide anything more than the bike races. Getting up it was a chore and getting down it was a joke. Whilst I loved San Andreas, it was so unreal that it wasn't much fun to play by comparison.

 

The cars in IV handle like real cars. The city looks and feels like a real city, rather than looking and feeling like a strangely over-dense village. The people are more varied, vibrant and realistic in IV. Niko isn't a dick. CJ was. Always bitching about what people were putting him through. CJ needed to man up and grow a pair, rather than being a little bitch.

 

But what's important here is that some people like some things, others like others. Whilst San Andreas definitely had more to do, none of it was fun.

 

The Gym: Not even a game. Just a laborious chore that gave very little benefit.

 

The Clothes: Dressing up your barbie to look like a f*cking clown? Sorry, I'm an adult. I want a serious realistic game that doesn't offer the chance to make my character, who is already a complete dick, look like a spastic.

 

The Cities: Los Santos was great. San Fierro was boring. Las Venturas felt like it didn't belong in the game. The countryside was empty and boring. Especially if your car blew up.

 

The Cars: STILL blowing up when flipped! This isn't the A-Team.

 

So. Make your decision, but bear in mind that GTAIV is a truly cinematic experience, comparable to all the great action thrillers. Whereas San Andreas was like watching Inspector Gadget. It could do a lot, but most of it was useless.

[Algonquin Assassin]

 

Are you serious? San Andreas was like a whole universe. More clothes, more safehouses, more choices, more everything. Plus 3 different complete cities and regions. The Las Venturas Strip complete kills Star Junction, Rodeo in Los Santos had more clothing stores than the whole city of Liberty, and San Fierro had density if you wanted an urban life. That alone gives it more replay value than GTAIV after missions. Then you add that fact that if you save the game at certain points before you get 100% of the territory, you will ALWAYS have gangwars. Its 2008 and Im still fighting gangwars. Who will Niko be fighting in 3 years? lol For anybody to say that IV is even half as revolutionary as SA is a joke. GTAIV fanboys must be sipping or smoking something outta this world, and whatever it is I need it. f*ck bowling, f*ck darts, only pool is cool. San Andreas had something for everybody. Only a fanboy can play IV religiously.

His question was what does SA offer AFTER 100% that GTA IV doesn't.

 

So what's there to do? Gang Wars? Wow go back to your hood every 10 minutes to shoot up a bunch of gangbangers to acheive nothing other then taking it back, only for it to be attacked again in 10 minutes time, how exciting. /bangs head on table.

 

Incase you have forgotten this isn't "Da hood", so gangwars have no place.

 

I would also be interested in seeing how GTA IV isn't half as revolutionary as SA.

 

GTA III was revolutionary, SA wasn't. SA just expanded on GTA III. Atleast GTA IV offers new physics, figthing systems, better graphics etc.

Edited May 18, 2008 by Miamivicecity

[Jabalous]

^

^

 

I agreed with you . The people in GTA IV walk as real people , euphoria engine provides the game with different animations every time and the animations are simulating the real life . in SA , the animations were suck , and the reason was because of the abilities the PS2 & Xbox . but now with PS3 & Xbox 360 , we can see a lot of things can simulate the real life .

[.Up&Coming.]

Are you serious? San Andreas was like a whole universe. More clothes, more safehouses, more choices, more everything. Plus 3 different complete cities and regions. The Las Venturas Strip complete kills Star Junction, Rodeo in Los Santos had more clothing stores than the whole city of Liberty, and San Fierro had density if you wanted an urban life. That alone gives it more replay value than GTAIV after missions. Then you add that fact that if you save the game at certain points before you get 100% of the territory, you will ALWAYS have gangwars. Its 2008 and Im still fighting gangwars. Who will Niko be fighting in 3 years? lol For anybody to say that IV is even half as revolutionary as SA is a joke. GTAIV fanboys must be sipping or smoking something outta this world, and whatever it is I need it. f*ck bowling, f*ck darts, only pool is cool. San Andreas had something for everybody. Only a fanboy can play IV religiously.

His question was what does SA offer AFTER 100% that GTA IV doesn't.

 

So what's there to do? Gang Wars? Wow go back to your hood every 10 minutes to shoot up a bunch of gangbangers to acheive nothing other then taking it back, only for it to be attacked again in 10 minutes time, how exciting. /bangs head on table.

 

Incase you have forgotten this isn't "Da hood", so gangwars have no place.

 

I would also be interested in seeing how GTA IV isn't half as revolutionary as SA.

 

GTA III was revolutionary, SA wasn't. SA just expanded on GTA III. Atleast GTA IV offers new physics, figthing systems, better graphics etc.

I know. And if someone really wants gang wars, they can just go on multiplayer.

[Kay Dogg]

Genuine question for everyone who gives a "If you don't like it, don't play it but don't complain about it on here." response.

 

Why can't you apply that logic to clicking into threads from people who don't wipe their cocks all over their GTA4 disc?

 

Seriously, if you think it's perfect, if you think the flaws are 'too insignificant to matter' then why the panic? What are you scared of? ...I suspect I know the answer.

[voyager]

 

can you tell me what you did in SA after reaching 100% that you can´t do in GTAIV now ?

 

More clothes, more safehouses ... Rodeo in Los Santos had more clothing stores than the whole city of Liberty ... That alone gives it more replay value than GTAIV after missions.

so after you beat GTA:SA you were happy to change clothes and save your game at various safehouses for months on end?

 

but now less than 1 month of GTAIV you are bored?

 

dude, ADD owns you. .

 

i mean i can see things that would make IV better but more safehouses and clothes = replay value makes me wonder why you play GTA at all.

Edited May 18, 2008 by voyager

[Stugots]

can you tell me what you did in SA after reaching 100% that you can´t do in GTAIV now ?

 

More clothes, more safehouses ... Rodeo in Los Santos had more clothing stores than the whole city of Liberty ... That alone gives it more replay value than GTAIV after missions.

so after you beat GTA:SA you were happy to change clothes and save your game at various safehouses for months on end?

 

but now less than 1 month of GTAIV you are bored?

 

dude, ADD owns you. .

 

i mean i can see things that would make IV better but more safehouses and clothes = replay value makes me wonder why you play GTA at all.

To me at least, it's not about clothes or customizing cars or haircuts, it's about possibilities. Sure those things got boring after a while, but a lot of us expected GTA4 to expand on those possibilities to make the world seem even more realistic than San Andreas. I for one didn't care for the gang territories of San Andreas at all. I also found the girlfriends to be a very obnoxious part of the game, which is one of the few things that GTA4 expands upon to make even more obnoxious. Even with more traffic and pedestrians, Liberty City feels like a ghost town in comparison to San Andreas.

[red_fog08]

the truth is it took me(and most of u all) like 6 months to get bored of gta 4, and even though it bored me I kept playing it for another 6 months.

It hasn't even been out for a month...

now why u go and change the TP's original statement..you can even go back and look

[Johnny Burbank]

I finished all the missions, but now I have not much desire to explore the game. I just didn't find it that interesting. I'll probably pick it up again out of even greater boredom of having nothing to do today.

[masterplan]

Well these are my thoughts for what they're worth:

 

I too feel disappointed with GTA IV and it hasn't even come close to making feel the way I did when playing Vice City or my personal favourite San Andreas. Sure, the graphics are amazing, the whole feel of being in a city is a true accomplishment, but we are gamers and such things cease to blow our minds after a short time playing. Its all about the gameplay, and I really feel that is lacking in this game.

 

Maybe it's because i'm getting older (30) or maybe it is because I have been waiting for this game ever since the credits rolled on San Andreas so anything was going to dissapoint, I dont know. All I know is, I haven't felt the euphoria I felt playing the previous games. The music let me down this time around also.

 

I totally get that alot has been put into this game, and there are great standout moments. Even the TV shows have more production values than some whole games released these days and I truly respect Rockstar for that. But I feel like, as this game has been so highly anticipated (i talked of not much else in the months leading up to it!) the reviewers have refused to comment that this game falls ever so slightly short.

 

***SPOILER****

 

Early in the game I felt like I cared about the choices that had to be made, Kill X or Y, it felt like it mattered. By the time I got to later choices, I really didnt care, and I should have.

 

I just finished it. Poor ending. Linear to the point of awful. And you dont even get the satisfaction of putting that final bullet in that idiots head.

 

Technically this game is 10/10 all the way. But the game a whole? 8/10

 

 

[Grand Theft Columbo]

I'd give the game a 7/10.

 

Sure the city is beautifully detailed, there just isn't that much to do...

 

 

Edit: Yeah, the music sucks.

[tehtopher]

IV > VC > III > SA.

 

 

Thats pretty much all I have to say about that. Plus theres download content + patches for multiplayer coming. Give me IV on PC and i'll be occupied for years with it. Multiplayer, mods, stunting videos.

 

 

[JS1989]

can you tell me what you did in SA after reaching 100% that you can´t do in GTAIV now ?

 

More clothes, more safehouses ... Rodeo in Los Santos had more clothing stores than the whole city of Liberty ... That alone gives it more replay value than GTAIV after missions.

so after you beat GTA:SA you were happy to change clothes and save your game at various safehouses for months on end?

 

but now less than 1 month of GTAIV you are bored?

 

dude, ADD owns you. .

 

i mean i can see things that would make IV better but more safehouses and clothes = replay value makes me wonder why you play GTA at all.

its has nothing to do what u can do in sa its about replay value, for some reason many people get bored of gta 4 much faster than sa

[Razor Sharp]

I agree that Sa was bigger and therefor you have more land to "explore".. but there just isn´t much to explore outside of the citys and even in them.

What I like in IV is that it really feels like a city- you can chase random peds and bump into storys, that wasn´t possible in the other GTAs. Also you can call up your friends and do something with them.

 

I dunno, I´m like 35% through now and I may not play the game as intensive as most people on here do, but I still look forward to it every day.

[voyager]

 

i mean i can see things that would make IV better but more safehouses and clothes = replay value makes me wonder why you play GTA at all.

its has nothing to do what u can do in sa its about replay value, for some reason many people get bored of gta 4 much faster than sa

i'm talking about replay value. the dude i quoted implied that "more clothing stores" and safehouses gave SA more replay value.

 

seriously, after you get 100% in any GTA game, do you really really wish you could do it all over again in a different pair of pants?

 

.. that is just not at all the type of enjoyment i get out of these games. i don't understand that mindset at all =p

 

 

 

 

i think there's some kind of psychological problem going on here with people who've been brought up being told they have ADD and just embraced it; now they suck the life out of games as quickly as possible so they can buy a new one every 3 weeks. problem is the games they want to abuse come out every 6 weeks so they spend 3 weeks complaining about how poor the last thing they gobbled down was. or maybe its just all for sake of conversation..?

^ probably strike a nerve with some folks; sorry, just an opinion.

azomg my cellphone is already out of style but i still got minutes Onose!! etc, etc, etc.

 

it's just sign of the times. 10 years ago people still wrote letters, you know, like with a pen. there was this thing called a "post office" you may have heard of.. now no one can even take the time to spell a whole word, they just text 2-3 letters of them.. even on forums.. no wonder they get bored with a massive free-roam environment with a paltry 90 missions, infinite random ped interactions, multi-player and the best graphics, AI and physics of any GTA game. some people just get bored with anything and everything now. we must be living in "the era of crackrock" or something =\

 

also at play is the fact that many of us have been getting off on doing random ultraviolence with cars, guns and baseball bats in virtual cities for many years now.. just how long can that fun stay fresh?

 

 

i don't smoke crack, and i'm not bored.

Edited May 18, 2008 by voyager

[j-protege]

its has nothing to do what u can do in sa its about replay value, for some reason many people get bored of gta 4 much faster than sa

I wish I could say that I don't, but after all the dating (and therefore doing all the activities a bunch of times), what is there to do?

 

It's like GTA3 at the end. Sure you can drive cars around, or do a killing spree, but by now I expect more. Even Vice City Stories for the little PSP had a side section of a mini empire.

 

In fact the whole "kill the building owners/gang and take over the property" thing was pretty cool. A nice twist on just buying property.

 

Side missions are lots of fun in these game, and I mean, sure there are some in GTAIV, they don't seem as epic or impactful on the game. They just seem to be good for a few acheivements (like Jacob's drug missions, or Brucie's races).

 

I remember on SA, having my game saved at the private airstrip, and having all my cool stuff there, bikes, planes, cool cars. I would just go from there with my ride of choice and have fun! Mess with the army, hit the freeway with an Infernus and actually be able to hit top speed! (A feet hardly attainable in busy NY/LC).

Fly over to Mt Chiliad, parashoot down, grab a car and drive off! Awesome stuff!

 

Unrealistic? Maybe. Kinda goofy? Sure. Fun? Of course!

 

That's what I truly miss, not the haircuts and tattoos, just the god-like power and freedom at the end of the game to do whatever you want.

It seemed like the game (SA) had an OK story, but the fun started after you were done, where you could just do your thing. It really felt like a 'sandbox' game, which I think was it's goal.

 

GTAIV, while an awesome play through, has the feeling of 'done' after the last mission. Like most linear games, once you're done the final chapter, it doesn't really feel like 'now I rule this place, time to have fun!'.

GTA has never felt like that to me before since GTA3.

[[MenaceMovies]]

I must agree. Since I got San Andreas when it was released, I have NEVER got bored of it. Even to this day I still play San Andreas for like 1-2 hours everyday, every week. But, IV is already starting to get boring. And I am already thinking of trading it in at GAME.

[Fuzzknuckles]

...I suspect I know the answer.

Well, tell us what you think it is then, oh wise one.

 

 

[merlinsteele]

Yeah, it's funny; I was hooked on Oblivion, but before this came out, I figured the human characters would look as awesome or more so. Actually the people in Oblivion look as real if not more so than this game. I guess I expected too much in that regard.

[derek3056]

I don't know if you people have noticed but these kind of topics are getting the most attention on this board. Simply because there is an epidemic of people being dissapointed with this game.

 

Maybe they should have never put so much content into San Andreas if they were only going to go back to the basics in GTA IV. It's not a sufficiant enought excuse to just say "but this game has better graphics and physics then SA".

 

That's not a forward step in any entertainment medium wether it be music, movies, theatre, or gaming.

 

Think of it this way...

 

Bands like The Beatles or Pink Floyd never sacrificed thier music by taking out msuical content just for improved sound quility. It's the same as if Hollywood started making 30 minutes movies but then trying to convince everyone that "it's ok because they look better".

 

 

[Fuzzknuckles]

Maybe they should have never put so much content into San Andreas if they were only going to go back to the basics in GTA IV. It's not a sufficiant enought excuse to just say "but this game has better graphics and physics then SA".

 

That's a very fair and valid point.

 

Perhaps if they hadn't have put so many pointless time wasting activities in SA, people would realise that GTA IV is a much better, more solid, more believable and well rounded game.

[voyager]

I don't know if you people have noticed but these kind of topics are getting the most attention on this board.

maybe because these topics spark controversy, arguments, debates, etc?

 

how can you have 6 pages of posts about "what's included in the special edition?" while staying on topic?

[sticky2819]

 

maybe you just werent hype enough or somethin' have you played multiplayer cause thats probably 60% why i play GTA4 40% of campaign but im now working on completing it

[derek3056]

Maybe they should have never put so much content into San Andreas if they were only going to go back to the basics in GTA IV.  It's not a sufficiant enought excuse to just say "but this game has better graphics and physics then SA". 

 

That's a very fair and valid point.

 

Perhaps if they hadn't have put so many pointless time wasting activities in SA, people would realise that GTA IV is a much better, more solid, more believable and well rounded game.

OK. Let's put aside the content issue for a moment.

 

Now when you say "more solid" please explain to me how this game is "more solid"...

 

Your certainly not talking about the "solid" combat and cover system are you? Have you ever even played games like "Gears Of War" or "Rainbow Six Vegas"?

 

Maybe if the combat system felt as smooth and fluid as it does in games like the ones I mentioned up above, then I might agree with you.

 

Hell...I can't even really be stealth if I wanted to in the way that I can in Splinter Cell.

 

These are the type of mechanics that should have been implemented for this game to TRUELY be "solid".

[Gamecocks]

You buy GTA not only for the story mode but for the replay value. Anyone who says they buy it solely for the missions is a lying sack of trash. If you would want that then get a first person shooter. You buy it for things outside the missions. And IMO they dropped the ball in this end of the spectrum. Besides the physics engine and graphics (basic next gen stuff) there was more subtractions to this game then additions. Online mode is nothing like expected and I think others would agree with that.

 

I would love to see the next game something of world of warcraft GTA style.

[DriftNismo]

I completely agree with you OP. I've completed the SA storyline 7 times, completed it 100% 2 times and about 95% 1 time and i'm still not that bored of it, there is something to do or somewhere to go everytime i play it. I have 29 hours of playing time on GTA:IV. I've just got into Alderney City and i've not finished the storyline. I'm already bored of it. I can only play half-hour sessions, after that i get really bored. There's just nothing new. Everyone does say it's the start of something new and great. If it is, i don't want to continue with it!

 

The new Liberty City sucks, the only cool place is the half-pipe underneath the bridge to Algonquin from the first island and Happiness Island. The Liberty City from GTA:III and LCS owns it. The missions are too easy, i've not come across one hard mission apart from snow storm. I shouldn't have got to the 3rd island this quickly, i should only just be on the 2nd island now and i've not just gone through all the missions, i don't do missions much but i find it's often the only thing to do because there is nothing else to do. There is hardly any clothing, there is no car customization, you can't buy cars or houses, the hospital (for some reason) costs about $8000 every time i go to it, there is hardly any health anywhere, the wanted level sucks, it's so easy to get away from the cops, the story sucks, it's boring, the missions are VERY repetitive and there is nowone in the game you can grow to like apart from mildly liking Niko because he has a bit of a sense of humour. There is no Cheetah, the Infernus and Turismo suck compared to the Infernus from III, VC and SA and the Turismo from SA, sure, the Comet is better but the Sultan sucks compared to the old one (although, we do have the Sultan RS but the Sultan from SA owns that) and there aren't any interesting easter eggs except the heart of liberty which is mildly entertaining (although, the game hasn't been out for long so there may be more to be found). So many people have got 100% already it's unbeliveable, 100% just takes no time compared to the other GTAs, it's not even much of an achievement in IV.

 

Ok, i haven't completed the storyline, but who cares? Almost everyone i know who has IV has either completed the storyline or got 100% and they all say it still sucks, there is nothing new to do. The game was delayed for so long and received so much hype for no reason. Maybe that's why me and everyone i know hate it, maybe we got too hyped up and were stupid for believing all the trusted gaming magazines that all said "the hype was definetly worth it", i don't know, but i'm now already waiting to hear news on a new GTA but i know that's not coming for a few years.

 

Beside the peds' interesting daily routines, the Euphoria engine is the ONLY good thing in IV. Sure, we got DLC coming but X360 are the only people getting "episodic content", whatever the hell that means, i assume it's more missions and more on the storyline, us PS3 users are being left out. Although it's not Rockstar's fault, Microsoft spent all that money assuring they get exclusive content and Playstation didn't, but the other DLCs are only going to be new vehicles, weapons and maybe a new small island or two, but that won't improve the game how it needs to be improved. I don't know what got into Rockstar to make them do this, but i fear it will turn a lot of other people away from future GTA games. The problem is, now Mafia 2 and SR2 are probably going to be better than IV, and GTA has always been king of sandbox games, and that makes me quite un-happy because if they are that much better, Rockstar could lose a lot of money and the GTA series could be dismissed, meaning no good upcoming games.

 

If anyone bothered to read all this, i'm sorry i ranted on so much about it, but i haven't told anyone all this yet, but everyone please remember, this is just MY PERSONAL OPINION, i'm not saying anyone is stupid for liking it, i'm just saying i don't like it.

[Fuzzknuckles]

Have you ever even played games like "Gears Of War" or "Rainbow Six Vegas"?

 

No I haven't. Funnily enough. I'll be honest, I don't have much time for gaming these days so I reserve my time for games I know I'm going to enjoy. I like games that are about more than just combat.

 

I'm sure those games are great and that their controls are very, very solid, but I wasn't comparing GTAIV to them. I was only comparing it to SA and other GTA games.

 

So, can you agree with me on my actual point, that it's more solid than GTAIII, VC and SA? I'm not too worried if you can't, it's all opinion.

[j-protege]

I don't know if you people have noticed but these kind of topics are getting the most attention on this board. Simply because there is an epidemic of people being dissapointed with this game.

 

Maybe they should have never put so much content into San Andreas if they were only going to go back to the basics in GTA IV. It's not a sufficiant enought excuse to just say "but this game has better graphics and physics then SA".

 

That's not a forward step in any entertainment medium wether it be music, movies, theatre, or gaming.

 

Think of it this way...

 

Bands like The Beatles or Pink Floyd never sacrificed thier music by taking out msuical content just for improved sound quility. It's the same as if Hollywood started making 30 minutes movies but then trying to convince everyone that "it's ok because they look better".

Haha I KNOW!

 

I hate when people defend a game based on 'new graphics' as a reason it's better.

 

It's like if they took a car with lots of standard features and striped it down to bare bones, but made the outside flashier.

 

Would it be a better car, or would it just look better?

[Gamecocks]

SA>The Godfather>GTA IV>VC>GTA III

 

The godfather kept me FAR more entertained for a much longer period of time. There was so much more to do and I really enjoyed it. San Andreas did the same. I can't say GTA IV has done that.

[Fuzzknuckles]

OPEN QUESTIONS TO THE FORUM. Or more to the point, those that prefer the extras of SA:

 

 

What, exactly, is so good about the extras in SA?

 

What is so good about all those ridiculous clothes? Be honest.

 

What is so good about going to the gym?

 

What is so good about any of the other features that got removed?

 

I'm not trying to start a flame war, I just want to hear why people believe that the removed features were so effing great. I personally found the gym, car customisation and most of the side missions to be pointless distractions that distracted the player from the fact that the character was an annoying little bitch and that the missions were very boring and too cartoony.