GTA IV: A step backwards?

[The Killa]

The story was mediocre. GTA SHOULD NOT be about a story anyway.

Holy sh*t, this was the most idiotic thing I've read this entire week

 

You didn't like the story? Because you didn't pay ANY attention to it at all, didn't you? The voice acting and script are A+ quality. No wonder you love SA so much. Because it had no story for you to follow, except for some black dude who rises to the top and has 3 mansions. What a great story. And the characters were all sh*t (exception: Mike Toreno. Inb4 someone calls me racist) and it just gave you a long list of worthless boring sh*t to do.

 

Anyone who says IV was a step backwards isn't very sharp either. Better graphics, better characters, a beautiful city and a GREAT story compromised for bicycles, working out at the gym and getting fat? OH MY GOD WHAT A f*ckING STEP BACKWARDS. nnnngggGGGHHH rockstur u guys sure dissapopointed me!!

 

Oh well. I'll enjoy this great game. You can go back to getting fat or exercising whatever.

 

 

[wayninja]

The story was mediocre.  GTA SHOULD NOT be about a story anyway.

Holy sh*t, this was the most idiotic thing I've read this entire week

 

You didn't like the story? Because you didn't pay ANY attention to it at all, didn't you? The voice acting and script are A+ quality. No wonder you love SA so much. Because it had no story for you to follow, except for some black dude who rises to the top and has 3 mansions. What a great story. And the characters were all sh*t (exception: Mike Toreno. Inb4 someone calls me racist) and it just gave you a long list of worthless boring sh*t to do.

 

Anyone who says IV was a step backwards isn't very sharp either. Better graphics, better characters, a beautiful city and a GREAT story compromised for bicycles, working out at the gym and getting fat? OH MY GOD WHAT A f*ckING STEP BACKWARDS. nnnngggGGGHHH rockstur u guys sure dissapopointed me!!

 

Oh well. I'll enjoy this great game. You can go back to getting fat or exercising whatever.

Typical fanboy bullsh*t, reads one sentence, sees read and spouts a bunch of mindless drivel about how much better this trite story is to another trite story.

 

Brucie is such a groundbreaking character. Super original, A+ stuff there. And Bernie/Florian is fantastic!

 

Your leaving a LAUNDRY list of things out that were in SA and not in IV too. Better graphics? I should hope so. I mean this isn't the PS2/Xbox is it? A beautiful city? Sure, beautiful and detached.

 

I'll just let you get back to re-reading the story. Hell, maybe in GTA V you won't even need a controller!

[meth.]

Packie was the only likable character in the game. He would have been a more suitable protagonist. That is the real step backwards in the series...a main character that is hard to connect with or root for, and a supporting cast of whining pathetic losers!

 

 

[The Killa]

The story was mediocre.  GTA SHOULD NOT be about a story anyway.

Holy sh*t, this was the most idiotic thing I've read this entire week

 

You didn't like the story? Because you didn't pay ANY attention to it at all, didn't you? The voice acting and script are A+ quality. No wonder you love SA so much. Because it had no story for you to follow, except for some black dude who rises to the top and has 3 mansions. What a great story. And the characters were all sh*t (exception: Mike Toreno. Inb4 someone calls me racist) and it just gave you a long list of worthless boring sh*t to do.

 

Anyone who says IV was a step backwards isn't very sharp either. Better graphics, better characters, a beautiful city and a GREAT story compromised for bicycles, working out at the gym and getting fat? OH MY GOD WHAT A f*ckING STEP BACKWARDS. nnnngggGGGHHH rockstur u guys sure dissapopointed me!!

 

Oh well. I'll enjoy this great game. You can go back to getting fat or exercising whatever.

Typical fanboy bullsh*t, reads one sentence, sees read and spouts a bunch of mindless drivel about how much better this trite story is to another trite story.

 

Brucie is such a groundbreaking character. Super original, A+ stuff there. And Bernie/Florian is fantastic!

 

Your leaving a LAUNDRY list of things out that were in SA and not in IV too. Better graphics? I should hope so. I mean this isn't the PS2/Xbox is it? A beautiful city? Sure, beautiful and detached.

 

I'll just let you get back to re-reading the story. Hell, maybe in GTA V you won't even need a controller!

I would watch your own "Typical fanboy bullsh*t", sir. Sorry daddy Rockstar didn't give you what you wanted this time around. No airplanes? Okay, theres one. No bicycles? Oh f*ck. Can't get fat? Well this is Amurrica after all, wtf rockstar? Can't go into Area 53 and ride jetpacks? This isn't GTA: Mars.

 

I don't know what you found more appealing in SA that makes it better than GTAIV. I personally applaud Rockstar for cutting all the sh*t from San Andreas and going back to the GTAIII and VC-style agenda.

 

Oh, and don't diss Brucie. He's a f*cking WINNER.

[wayninja]

I would watch your own "Typical fanboy bullsh*t", sir. Sorry daddy Rockstar didn't give you what you wanted this time around. No airplanes? Okay, theres one. No bicycles? Oh f*ck. Can't get fat? Well this is Amurrica after all, wtf rockstar? Can't go into Area 53 and ride jetpacks? This isn't GTA: Mars.

 

I don't know what you found more appealing in SA that makes it better than GTAIV. I personally applaud Rockstar for cutting all the sh*t from San Andreas and going back to the GTAIII and VC-style agenda.

 

Oh, and don't diss Brucie. He's a f*cking WINNER.

Keep going, you are still missing TONS of stuff from SA.

 

And that is what a fanboy would say. "Less is more! Congrats R* on taking a bunch of stuff that for some reason you decided at some point should be in! Good riddance!"

 

And then when R* brings a bunch of that stuff back in DLC, you will say "Good job R* on listening to your community and giving them what they want!"

 

Brucie alone makes the whole "this is the best story evah!" argument a joke.

 

[The Killa]

I would watch your own "Typical fanboy bullsh*t", sir. Sorry daddy Rockstar didn't give you what you wanted this time around. No airplanes? Okay, theres one. No bicycles? Oh f*ck. Can't get fat? Well this is Amurrica after all, wtf rockstar? Can't go into Area 53 and ride jetpacks? This isn't GTA: Mars.

 

I don't know what you found more appealing in SA that makes it better than GTAIV. I personally applaud Rockstar for cutting all the sh*t from San Andreas and going back to the GTAIII and VC-style agenda.

 

Oh, and don't diss Brucie. He's a f*cking WINNER.

Keep going, you are still missing TONS of stuff from SA.

 

And that is what a fanboy would say. "Less is more! Congrats R* on taking a bunch of stuff that for some reason you decided at some point should be in! Good riddance!"

 

And then when R* brings a bunch of that stuff back in DLC, you will say "Good job R* on listening to your community and giving them what they want!"

 

Brucie alone makes the whole "this is the best story evah!" argument a joke.

Okay, okay. Please list away, then

 

[wayninja]

Oh Jesus, there are TONS of topics on this already, but just to list some off the top of my head:

 

Tanks

Skateboard

Diving

Skill based progression

Casinos

buyable assets

territory

THE CHEETAH!!!

CUSTOMIZABLE CARS

tattoos/haircuts

 

 

There's tons dude. Again, I'm sure we will see some of the 'missing' stuff in DLC, kinda disturbing actually.

[The Killa]

Oh Jesus, there are TONS of topics on this already, but just to list some off the top of my head:

 

Tanks

Skateboard

Diving

Skill based progression

Casinos

buyable assets

territory

THE CHEETAH!!!

CUSTOMIZABLE CARS

tattoos/haircuts

 

 

There's tons dude. Again, I'm sure we will see some of the 'missing' stuff in DLC, kinda disturbing actually.

Lots of these were cut for the realism factor. Tanks, diving, skill progression (it was an okay idea at first but I grew to dislike it) were out of the ordinary and took away from the "feel" of the city. Territory could have been improved massively, but in GTAIV you don't really assign yourself to a permanent gang, so theres no point in turf wars.

 

I DO agree however that there could have been more stuff to buy in the game. It seems you have more money than you can spend (this is the popular trend for every GTA).

 

Also: skateboarding? I don't remember that. There is a skatepark if thats what you're referring too.

[wayninja]

Oh Jesus, there are TONS of topics on this already, but just to list some off the top of my head:

 

Tanks

Skateboard

Diving

Skill based progression

Casinos

buyable assets

territory

THE CHEETAH!!!

CUSTOMIZABLE CARS

tattoos/haircuts

 

 

There's tons dude.  Again, I'm sure we will see some of the 'missing' stuff in DLC, kinda disturbing actually.

Lots of these were cut for the realism factor. Tanks, diving, skill progression (it was an okay idea at first but I grew to dislike it) were out of the ordinary and took away from the "feel" of the city. Territory could have been improved massively, but in GTAIV you don't really assign yourself to a permanent gang, so theres no point in turf wars.

 

I DO agree however that there could have been more stuff to buy in the game. It seems you have more money than you can spend (this is the popular trend for every GTA).

 

Also: skateboarding? I don't remember that. There is a skatepark if thats what you're referring too.

Disregard the skateboard, I was thinking of a mod for the PC version...

 

I understand WHY some of it was removed (no idea why car customization is unrealistic), but I still think this means taking a step back in the series. There is only so much realism that I want in a video game. I don't want to have to justify to my self why I can't do something cool or fun in a video game because it's not realistic enough. It's a poor cop out at best and really bad design choice at worst.

[conk11]

The city isant as big as san andreas and not as much cars. i loved roaming around in the desert and country side. BUT NOW ITS GONE!!!!

[GTAfanatical]

To give, you must take, Rockstar sacrificed some things to add the ultimate experience to other things such as the storyline.

 

The story was mediocre.

I really hope you're kidding. It's the best story I've seen in a videogame. The only game where I can actually care about the characters, where I make a gameplay choice because of how a character acts instead of what results from it.

best story you've seen in a video game rofl

 

u should play more games

[Undecided]

To give, you must take, Rockstar sacrificed some things to add the ultimate experience to other things such as the storyline.

 

The story was mediocre.

I really hope you're kidding. It's the best story I've seen in a videogame. The only game where I can actually care about the characters, where I make a gameplay choice because of how a character acts instead of what results from it.

best story you've seen in a video game rofl

 

u should play more games

It's got the best story of any non-rpg game I've ever played.

[GTAfanatical]

Oh Jesus, there are TONS of topics on this already, but just to list some off the top of my head:

 

Tanks

Skateboard

Diving

Skill based progression

Casinos

buyable assets

territory

THE CHEETAH!!!

CUSTOMIZABLE CARS

tattoos/haircuts

 

 

There's tons dude.  Again, I'm sure we will see some of the 'missing' stuff in DLC, kinda disturbing actually.

Lots of these were cut for the realism factor. Tanks, diving, skill progression (it was an okay idea at first but I grew to dislike it) were out of the ordinary and took away from the "feel" of the city. Territory could have been improved massively, but in GTAIV you don't really assign yourself to a permanent gang, so theres no point in turf wars.

 

I DO agree however that there could have been more stuff to buy in the game. It seems you have more money than you can spend (this is the popular trend for every GTA).

 

Also: skateboarding? I don't remember that. There is a skatepark if thats what you're referring too.

that realism argument is stupid seeign as 99% of the stuff they left out is realistic

[mrmojo_prime]

I'm really happy with GTA IV, it has the most In depth city I've ever seen in an free roaming game. Sure it's lost some features but it's more than made up for it in graphics game play and story.

[Catalinaslover]

Im sure some game developers enjoy seeing R* finally fumbled the ball.

 

IV is just delivering tweaks here and there, nothing new.

 

IV dont have any deserts anymore but are replaced with a genuine and solid game play feel like "Walk through sahara without a camel and waterbottle in ur throat feel"

 

 

 

 

 

[i-cup]

Im sure some game developers enjoy seeing R* finally fumbled the ball.

 

IV is just delivering tweaks here and there, nothing new.

 

IV dont have any deserts anymore but are replaced with a genuine and solid game play feel like "Walk through sahara without a camel and waterbottle in ur throat feel"

Your analogy sucks as much ass as your argument.

 

GTA IV was designed with adults in mind as it's an ADULT game. It seems to be a popular trend among the teens to bitch and complain their favorite activity of getting their hair cut/getting a tattoo/dancing/<random pointless filler sh*t here> got taken out of the game.

 

Guess what, you can do that in real life! It's not illegal! So go outside and do it!

[Algonquin Assassin]

It is a step backwards. There is no real sense of any kind of accomplishment when you unlock a new island and the city really isn't all that big. Each area is distinct, but it's on a very subtle level... the areas are very similar.

 

 

Isn't all that big? Buddy almost all of Los Santos would probably fit in Dukes/Broker alone.

 

Yeah it's not as big as San Andreas, but we are comparing 1 city, to a entire state. Compare any of the single cities in San Andreas to the new LC, and they get dwarfed.

[Zerogamer22]

Im a bit tired of it always have to be USA or England it sets foot in.. Try some new countries for a change

[Hove_Beach]

Im sure some game developers enjoy seeing R* finally fumbled the ball.

 

IV is just delivering tweaks here and there, nothing new.

 

IV dont have any deserts anymore but are replaced with a genuine and solid game play feel like "Walk through sahara without a camel and waterbottle in ur throat feel"

Your analogy sucks as much ass as your argument.

 

GTA IV was designed with adults in mind as it's an ADULT game. It seems to be a popular trend among the teens to bitch and complain their favorite activity of getting their hair cut/getting a tattoo/dancing/<random pointless filler sh*t here> got taken out of the game.

 

Guess what, you can do that in real life! It's not illegal! So go outside and do it!

GTA scaled back in TOO many ways - even if u just compare the weapons list from the previous GTAs, yes including SA lol - they lost loads of features .. that adults appriciate and added depth to the story line... and fun!

 

http://www.gtasanandreas.net/weapons/#melee

 

[i-cup]

Im sure some game developers enjoy seeing R* finally fumbled the ball.

 

IV is just delivering tweaks here and there, nothing new.

 

IV dont have any deserts anymore but are replaced with a genuine and solid game play feel like "Walk through sahara without a camel and waterbottle in ur throat feel"

Your analogy sucks as much ass as your argument.

 

GTA IV was designed with adults in mind as it's an ADULT game. It seems to be a popular trend among the teens to bitch and complain their favorite activity of getting their hair cut/getting a tattoo/dancing/<random pointless filler sh*t here> got taken out of the game.

 

Guess what, you can do that in real life! It's not illegal! So go outside and do it!

GTA scaled back in TOO many ways - even if u just compare the weapons list from the previous GTAs, yes including SA lol - they lost loads of features .. that adults appriciate and added depth to the story line... and fun!

 

http://www.gtasanandreas.net/weapons/#melee

Melee weapons, different looking objects all doing the same thing in a video game. Applying a physical force to an NPC. It's PRACTICALLY an object skinned differently.

 

 

[Hove_Beach]

 

Melee weapons, different looking objects all doing the same thing in a video game. Applying a physical force to an NPC. It's PRACTICALLY an object skinned differently.

and ur point is exactly ??

 

oh... and if u bothered to check the link - its a list of ALL the weapons

 

ur fact u pointed out also applies to the cars ... would u have been happy with just say 10 skinned differently

Edited May 18, 2008 by Hove_Beach

[i-cup]

 

Melee weapons, different looking objects all doing the same thing in a video game. Applying a physical force to an NPC. It's PRACTICALLY an object skinned differently.

and ur point is exactly ??

That in a game based around ranged weaponry having 6-7 different melee weapons that look different but have about the same speed and power is POINTLESS.

 

Knife and Bat do the job fine.

 

EDIT: No genius, it doesn't apply to cars. Cars have differing top speeds, handling, braking, acceleration, etc. They are quite different to something that has a universal constant.

 

EDIT2: If you played the original and to a lesser extent, the sequel, you would know Grand Theft Auto is primarily about vehicles. Hence the title.

Edited May 18, 2008 by i-cup

[Algonquin Assassin]

Aslong as the weapons do their job (Injure, and kill) I don't care how many of them there is.

 

 

[Hove_Beach]

QUOTE (i-cup @ May 18 2008)

EDIT: No genius, it doesn't apply to cars. Cars have differing top speeds, handling, braking, acceleration, etc. They are quite different to something that has a universal constant.

 

EDIT2: If you played the original and to a lesser extent, the sequel, you would know Grand Theft Auto is primarily about vehicles. Hence the title.

 

the link was about all the weapons - "ranged" as well

 

mmm - - ok so lets remove car modification then, mmm - and add loads of other "vehicle related" tasks - mini games - features - such as "fill in the blanks i-cup" and to help u

 

car stealing was in previous titles just not called tect messages etc - in all of em,

purchasing car dealerships - mmmm - removed - step backwards i think

removing lots of car types - such as golf buggys, bikes , types of bikes - streetfighter, bf injection, quad etc , - step backwards i think

police in unmarked cars such as cheetah - step backwards i think

poice using spike stripes "regulary" for high speed chases - lost - step backwards i think

police on moterbikes - lost - step backwards i think

Edited May 18, 2008 by Hove_Beach

[Algonquin Assassin]

removing lots of car types - such as golf buggys, bikes , types of bikes - streetfighter, bf injection, quad etc , - step backwards i think

 

The removal of golf buggys, and quad bikes are not a step back.

 

There's no actual golf course in LC, so what the hell would be the point?

 

There's no rural area in LC either, so again what's the point of a quad?

 

 

[i-cup]

 

QUOTE (i-cup  @ May 18 2008)

EDIT: No genius, it doesn't apply to cars. Cars have differing top speeds, handling, braking, acceleration, etc. They are quite different to something that has a universal constant.

 

EDIT2: If you played the original and to a lesser extent, the sequel, you would know Grand Theft Auto is primarily about vehicles. Hence the title.

 

the link was about all the weapons - "ranged" as well

 

mmm - - ok so lets remove car modification then, mmm  - and add loads of other "vehicle related" tasks - mini games - features - such as "fill in the blanks i-cup"  and to help u

 

car stealing was in previous titles just not called tect messages etc - in all of em,

purchasing car dealerships - mmmm - removed - step backwards i think

removing lots of car types - such as golf buggys, bikes , types of bikes - streetfighter, bf injection, quad etc ,  - step backwards i think

police in unmarked cars such as cheetah - step backwards i think

poice using spike stripes "regulary" for high speed chases - lost - step backwards i think

police on moterbikes - lost - step backwards i think

 

It seems to be a popular trend among the teens to bitch and complain their favorite activity of getting their hair cut/getting a tattoo/dancing/<random pointless filler sh*t here> got taken out of the game.

 

And my point was just proven. But I'll reply to your whining anyway.

 

 

purchasing car dealerships

Rags to Slightly Better Rags story, not Rags to Riches. You have been told.

 

 

removing lots of car types - such as golf buggys, bikes , types of bikes - streetfighter, bf injection, quad etc

Because in Liberty City there is a reason to have a golf buggy on the street as well as several beach/sand/dune vehicles. The types of bikes have been reduced by 1. Bikes are unreasonable, besides when was the last time you saw a 40-something immigrant riding a BMX?

 

 

police in unmarked cars such as cheetah

I don't remember this in San Andreas. Pointless anyway. Especially since they came at 4 stars in Vice City. You already knew the cops were onto you so why have undercover cars. Plus the GPS system marking police vehicles on your map would render this point moot.

 

 

poice using spike stripes "regulary" for high speed chases

My tires are regularly popped enough by gunfire thank you.

 

 

police on moterbikes

Pointless. Especially if you just ram into them. Besides, isn't this being phased out in police forces?

[Hove_Beach]

QUOTE (i-cup  @ May 18 2008)

EDIT: No genius, it doesn't apply to cars. Cars have differing top speeds, handling, braking, acceleration, etc. They are quite different to something that has a universal constant.

 

EDIT2: If you played the original and to a lesser extent, the sequel, you would know Grand Theft Auto is primarily about vehicles. Hence the title.

 

the link was about all the weapons - "ranged" as well

 

mmm - - ok so lets remove car modification then, mmm  - and add loads of other "vehicle related" tasks - mini games - features - such as "fill in the blanks i-cup"  and to help u

 

car stealing was in previous titles just not called tect messages etc - in all of em,

purchasing car dealerships - mmmm - removed - step backwards i think

removing lots of car types - such as golf buggys, bikes , types of bikes - streetfighter, bf injection, quad etc ,  - step backwards i think

police in unmarked cars such as cheetah - step backwards i think

poice using spike stripes "regulary" for high speed chases - lost - step backwards i think

police on moterbikes - lost - step backwards i think

 

It seems to be a popular trend among the teens to bitch and complain their favorite activity of getting their hair cut/getting a tattoo/dancing/<random pointless filler sh*t here> got taken out of the game.

 

And my point was just proven. But I'll reply to your whining anyway.

 

 

purchasing car dealerships

Rags to Slightly Better Rags story, not Rags to Riches. You have been told.

 

 

removing lots of car types - such as golf buggys, bikes , types of bikes - streetfighter, bf injection, quad etc

Because in Liberty City there is a reason to have a golf buggy on the street as well as several beach/sand/dune vehicles. The types of bikes have been reduced by 1. Bikes are unreasonable, besides when was the last time you saw a 40-something immigrant riding a BMX?

 

 

police in unmarked cars such as cheetah

I don't remember this in San Andreas. Pointless anyway. Especially since they came at 4 stars in Vice City. You already knew the cops were onto you so why have undercover cars. Plus the GPS system marking police vehicles on your map would render this point moot.

 

 

poice using spike stripes "regulary" for high speed chases

My tires are regularly popped enough by gunfire thank you.

 

 

police on moterbikes

Pointless. Especially if you just ram into them. Besides, isn't this being phased out in police forces?

and so il ask u - what vehicle content has replaced all this ?

 

to make the series a step foward in terms of its vehicle additions to the series ?

[i-cup]

QUOTE (i-cup  @ May 18 2008)

EDIT: No genius, it doesn't apply to cars. Cars have differing top speeds, handling, braking, acceleration, etc. They are quite different to something that has a universal constant.

 

EDIT2: If you played the original and to a lesser extent, the sequel, you would know Grand Theft Auto is primarily about vehicles. Hence the title.

 

the link was about all the weapons - "ranged" as well

 

mmm - - ok so lets remove car modification then, mmm  - and add loads of other "vehicle related" tasks - mini games - features - such as "fill in the blanks i-cup"  and to help u

 

car stealing was in previous titles just not called tect messages etc - in all of em,

purchasing car dealerships - mmmm - removed - step backwards i think

removing lots of car types - such as golf buggys, bikes , types of bikes - streetfighter, bf injection, quad etc ,  - step backwards i think

police in unmarked cars such as cheetah - step backwards i think

poice using spike stripes "regulary" for high speed chases - lost - step backwards i think

police on moterbikes - lost - step backwards i think

 

It seems to be a popular trend among the teens to bitch and complain their favorite activity of getting their hair cut/getting a tattoo/dancing/<random pointless filler sh*t here> got taken out of the game.

 

And my point was just proven. But I'll reply to your whining anyway.

 

 

purchasing car dealerships

Rags to Slightly Better Rags story, not Rags to Riches. You have been told.

 

 

removing lots of car types - such as golf buggys, bikes , types of bikes - streetfighter, bf injection, quad etc

Because in Liberty City there is a reason to have a golf buggy on the street as well as several beach/sand/dune vehicles. The types of bikes have been reduced by 1. Bikes are unreasonable, besides when was the last time you saw a 40-something immigrant riding a BMX?

 

 

police in unmarked cars such as cheetah

I don't remember this in San Andreas. Pointless anyway. Especially since they came at 4 stars in Vice City. You already knew the cops were onto you so why have undercover cars. Plus the GPS system marking police vehicles on your map would render this point moot.

 

 

poice using spike stripes "regulary" for high speed chases

My tires are regularly popped enough by gunfire thank you.

 

 

police on moterbikes

Pointless. Especially if you just ram into them. Besides, isn't this being phased out in police forces?

and so il ask u - what vehicle content has replaced all this ?

 

to make the series a step foward in terms of its vehicle additions to the series ?

Are you asking me how to fight your argument for you?

 

There are quite a number of new vehicle additions that give a greater diversity. As I do not have a list of all vehicles in the game I could not list them for you but for example:

 

Dukes

Futo

Oracle

Dilettante

Sultan RS (Just for you car mod whiners)

DB6-89 (I think that's what it's called)

 

To be honest I can't think of many more as I stopped paying attention to what the cars were called quite early in the game when I realised I didn't care.

[Hove_Beach]

and so il ask u - what vehicle content has replaced all this ?

 

to make the series a step foward in terms of its vehicle additions to the series ?

 

Dukes

Futo

Oracle

Dilettante

Sultan RS (Just for you car mod whiners)

DB6-89 (I think that's what it's called)

 

To be honest I can't think of many more as I stopped paying attention to what the cars were called quite early in the game when I realised I didn't care.

totally of the mark ....

 

content i-cup - not types of vehicles -

 

as in what variations of content such as stealing cars via text - car modifcations for which there arent any that the game player can control -

 

what new vehichle content has been added to the series in 4 that was not in past GTA's = excluding euphoria damage which they acquired and is to be expected - new damage in a new game.

 

oh yes - carswashes - cant think of any more -

 

apart from gps which is a natural progression from a standard waypoint

 

and quote " Sultan RS (Just for you car mod whiners)"

its surprsing how the modded cars seem to be most peoples favs ...

[LemKo]

I haven't yet got the game (waiting for PC version), but surely going from a whole state (including motorways and countryside towns) to only one city is a bit of a step backwards? After having all that area to explore (and cause trouble in), surely going back to a single city, even if it is huge, is a bit of a letdown? When I heard that it wasn't going to be set in London, but in the USA (again), I was disappointed, but I was expecting it to provide us with a nice big slice of country to cause mayhem in, not just one city.

Oh yes London instead of NY that's so good, what a terrible city of crime.