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DrinkyPoops

what a load of old sh*t

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unoleian
The Sultan RS has got to be the fastest car availible.

Not even close. The comet, Turismo, Super GT, and Infernus are all much faster from my experience.

The Super Gt is the fastest out of all the cars, using the patented airport test.

Do the jump from the airport to the barge and the Super Gt will cover the most distance by far, you can barely stop because you land so far onto the barge....

Or just the lightest? Think about it...A Bentley Continental and a Ferrari F50 hit a ramp both at 200mph Which is gonna fly farthest? Physics my friend.

 

But Sultan RS, as was said before is so much better with the resiliance and cornering. Me, i love sentinels...don't feel so bad when i dent them...

Wrong.. that's not physics, my friend tounge.gif If they both hit the ramp at the same speed, their weight would have no effect on how fast (or far) they travel. Drop a bowling ball and a tennis ball from the same height; see which'll hit the ground first.

You obviously know nothing about physics do you? Look up a word called Inertia and that will help you.

I quoted this whole mess, mainly because I can't seem to come to grips with the quoting system. This isn't a direct reply to the last poster, but an overall clarification. Everyone's in the same chapter, but can't get on the same page here.

 

It would seem a lighter object would fly farther, but that's not the case. It takes less energy to move it however far, yes, but a heavier object at a similar speed will fly farther due to its increased inertia as a function of momentum and mass. It only flies farther because it changes its directional velocity less quickly. However, a lighter ride and a heavier ride are heading towards the ground at the same rate.

 

A dropped bowling ball and a bullet fired level from a gun should ideally hit the ground at the same time. However, as a result of an obviously higher velocity on one, it travels a hell of a lot farther than the bowling ball did when it hit. You could vice versa this, drop a bullet and fire a bowling ball out of a cannon with similar results.

 

Keep in mind also, that physics calculations in most all games is still rather primitive. Concerns such as air resistance are nonexistent and applied force calculations have a wide margin of error to keep the calcs simple. Saying that a car flies farther in the game because it's more "aerodynamic" simply isn't true. Air resistance DOES NOT exist in any real capacity in any current basic physics engine that I know of. HL2 MAY have had a rudimentary implementation, but I'm not 100% on this. The flipping/flopping of launched boxes and corrugated roof pieces may have been a cognitive illusion and a trick of the calcs, not an actual attempt at air resistance. Not sure... Any appearance of being more aerodynamic occurs with min/maxing of max speed and acceleration etc properties in the game code.

 

Ain't game physics confusing?

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pinky

 

The Sultan RS has got to be the fastest car availible.

Not even close. The comet, Turismo, Super GT, and Infernus are all much faster from my experience.

The Super Gt is the fastest out of all the cars, using the patented airport test.

Do the jump from the airport to the barge and the Super Gt will cover the most distance by far, you can barely stop because you land so far onto the barge....

Or just the lightest? Think about it...A Bentley Continental and a Ferrari F50 hit a ramp both at 200mph Which is gonna fly farthest? Physics my friend.

 

But Sultan RS, as was said before is so much better with the resiliance and cornering. Me, i love sentinels...don't feel so bad when i dent them...

Wrong.. that's not physics, my friend tounge.gif If they both hit the ramp at the same speed, their weight would have no effect on how fast (or far) they travel. Drop a bowling ball and a tennis ball from the same height; see which'll hit the ground first.

You obviously know nothing about physics do you? Look up a word called Inertia and that will help you.

I quoted this whole mess, mainly because I can't seem to come to grips with the quoting system. This isn't a direct reply to the last poster, but an overall clarification. Everyone's in the same chapter, but can't get on the same page here.

 

It would seem a lighter object would fly farther, but that's not the case. It takes less energy to move it however far, yes, but a heavier object at a similar speed will fly farther due to its increased inertia as a function of momentum and mass. It only flies farther because it changes its directional velocity less quickly. However, a lighter ride and a heavier ride are heading towards the ground at the same rate.

 

A dropped bowling ball and a bullet fired level from a gun should ideally hit the ground at the same time. However, as a result of an obviously higher velocity on one, it travels a hell of a lot farther than the bowling ball did when it hit. You could vice versa this, drop a bullet and fire a bowling ball out of a cannon with similar results.

 

Keep in mind also, that physics calculations in most all games is still rather primitive. Concerns such as air resistance are nonexistent and applied force calculations have a wide margin of error to keep the calcs simple. Saying that a car flies farther in the game because it's more "aerodynamic" simply isn't true. Air resistance DOES NOT exist in any real capacity in any current basic physics engine that I know of. HL2 MAY have had a rudimentary implementation, but I'm not 100% on this. The flipping/flopping of launched boxes and corrugated roof pieces may have been a cognitive illusion and a trick of the calcs, not an actual attempt at air resistance. Not sure... Any appearance of being more aerodynamic occurs with min/maxing of max speed and acceleration etc properties in the game code.

 

Ain't game physics confusing?

Don't want to ruin it for you but GTA games use a drag factor, inertia etc in the handling make up. wink.gif

The data side of GTAIV's handling is identical to that of SA too, I know this because I am a vehicle modder for SA and I do have a copy of GTAIV handling and vehicle ide files.

I think that persons responsible for the car page on this site http://www.gta4.net/vehicles/?vehicle=ZOMBIE(STM is a well known GTA modder) will have translated this data to get the figures you see.

The top speeds may be inaccurate though as this setting is not used a lot of the time with vehicles and they are usually governed by power versus drag.

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unoleian

If I remember right, that factor affects how quickly a vehicle loses speed when no gas is applied.

 

Observation tells me that this factor doesn't affect a vehicle's change in speed when airborne. If it does, the effect is minimal, and still exclusive of true air resistance and aerodynamic properties.

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barney555

dunno if anyone else noticed this but there are alpt of fast nice cars and not enough space to save em!!!

i mean in gta 3 even u cud cram cars in garage

n theysd stay 4 bit

wats wit parkin on road no garage

not enough space disapointin

and is car mods that was kwl on sa

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Low3LL

My favorite cars are the..Futo GT..Sultan RS..and FBI Buffalo..

 

 

Anyways...does any1 kno where the Super GT spawns bcuz for some reason there not infront of my house anymore..n also where the Comet Spawns???

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stealthmaster

doesnt it seem that all vehicles have the same top speed but they just take different times to get there?

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MC.

I need help deciding which vehicle I should keep for my parking space at Bohan since my other parking spots are full. Which vehicle is more rare and unique? Pink Feltzer from Gerry's mission? Or Little Jacob's Huntley Sport? Are any of them special proofed by any chance? Like bullet proof, explosion proof, etc.

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pinky
I need help deciding which vehicle I should keep for my parking space at Bohan since my other parking spots are full. Which vehicle is more rare and unique? Pink Feltzer from Gerry's mission? Or Little Jacob's Huntley Sport? Are any of them special proofed by any chance? Like bullet proof, explosion proof, etc.

Pink Felzer, the Huntleys start showing up everywhere once you get one. You Don't even need to be driving it either.

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360xbox

ive just been in a hybird car good car biggrin.gif

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JaYoDoran
Looks Just Like An EVO Is Awsome!!!! Well Nice Car Even Got The Race Seats:P

its a WRX impreza icon14.gif still a whopper motor tho biggrin.gif

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MIKEYBOYCARDIFF
Looks Just Like An EVO Is Awsome!!!! Well Nice Car Even Got The Race Seats:P

its a WRX impreza icon14.gif still a whopper motor tho biggrin.gif

Lol, my experience has been that most people cannot tell the difference between an evo and an impreza in real life anyway!

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Flamingnun

Look familiar?

 

user posted image

 

Not an evo, or a subaru, it's (based on) a toyota altezza. (lexus brand this too under something in the IS series, but lexus are teh gay)

 

 

The sultan in GTA:SA was clearly a tribute to the 1999 impreza wrx, this looks nothing like anything miti/subaru currently make, although the rear lights definatley pay homage to the Evo 4/5.

 

 

 

 

Also managed to finally get my hands on a Futo GT, northwest in Bohan. It's the tiny little details like that (read: the detailed carbon fiber hood, the drivers seat being replaced with a race bucket, the miniscule vinyl on the hood, etc...) that make me appreciate the brilliance of the rockstar developers even moar.

 

 

 

<3

Edited by Flamingnun

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SentinelXS

this little issue of what the Sultan "really is" has become quite a big issue...considering i'm seeing the same things posted multiple times...the answer is...its none of the above or probably more correctly stated...its a combination of several of the above

 

all rockstar did was take "traits" of several great sport sedans and make their own version then they cut off 2drs and made a sport coupe...does it really matter or make the sultan any less fun that it is not actually a toyota altezza, subaru impreza, or mitsu lancer evo? not to me, i enjoy it for what it is...a fast car that looks and sounds cool in the game just like i appreciate all of the aforementioned cars in reality for the same basic reasons

 

its this very reason that the rancher looks like and previously looked like a full-size chevy blazer/truck and the futo looks like a toyota corolla levin/sprinter tureno...pmp600 looks like a chrysler 300, etc. - rockstar took things that we see in everyday life and made them fit into a game that was designed to mimick real life

 

i'm just getting so tired of seeing the same posts on the Sultan...i don't see such a debate over any other car in the game...if...and i'm saying if...you could somehow take all three cars and merge them together in reality you would probably have something that resembles a Sultan...but that is what is fun about creating vehicles...i used to make vehicles for 4x4 evolution for the PC and post them to different sites...most of them were modified versions of the trucks/suv's i saw everyday with my own twist on them (thats what makes it FUN)

 

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SentinelXS
My cars:

 

Bohan:

NOOSE Cruiser

Futo GT

 

Algonquin 1:

Infernus

PMP 600 with spoiler - got it in a mission, haven't seen another with the spoiler

 

Algonquin 2:

Infernus

Sultan RS

 

Alderney:

SuperGT

Coqette - white with red stripe

hey captain if you are looking for the pmp600 w/ rear spoiler i see them all the time in the northern section of Alderny...thay are a "gang" car there...black with armed drivers...you get the point

 

pretty nice car i like the front grille better than the standard pmp600...just drive around the northern half of Alderny...by that mansion where you had to take the Turismo from during the Stevie car jacking missions...its by the old casino

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mclellan

Does anyone know where to find a Comet? I lost the one you get after Brucies race.

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Mr. Someguy
in one of the fire stations there is a car which is called 'ECTO1' and looks like the car from ghost busters.

 

if you get in it you can activate 'busting missions' - like the vigilante ones but you have to get ghosts instead.

 

here is a pic

 

user posted image

 

 

srsly

 

 

devil.gif

Bullsh*t...

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pinky
Look familiar?

 

user posted image

 

Not an evo, or a subaru, it's (based on) a toyota altezza. (lexus brand this too under something in the IS series, but lexus are teh gay)

 

 

The sultan in GTA:SA was clearly a tribute to the 1999 impreza wrx, this looks nothing like anything miti/subaru currently make, although the rear lights definatley pay homage to the Evo 4/5.

 

 

 

 

Also managed to finally get my hands on a Futo GT, northwest in Bohan. It's the tiny little details like that (read: the detailed carbon fiber hood, the drivers seat being replaced with a race bucket, the miniscule vinyl on the hood, etc...) that make me appreciate the brilliance of the rockstar developers even moar.

 

 

 

<3

Here is the problem with people and GTA cars, they think it is just based on one when in fact usually two or more.

The front is indeed quite like the Altezza or Lexus but from the windscreen back it is in fact an Evo 5 or 6. Rear views easily confirm this, especially the versions with extra spoiler.

user posted image

Note the body line that runs through the car at door handle height, same as the Sultan.

 

Sultan RS anyone?

user posted image

 

Again, they never made any two door Evos, or Altezzas to be frank, the RS has a little WRX in there for good measure.

Also, the engine looks like a Honda unit, but the sound is undeniably Subaru.

 

So there you have it, not one car but many.

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conner

Bohan:

Comet ( from brucie

Rastafaari Landstalker ( from jacob

 

Algonquin 1:

Nothing yet. saving it for something special.

 

Algonquin 2:

Infernus

Futo GT

 

Alderney:

Sultan RS - Red w/ white stripe, hood scoop and carbon hood. smile.gif

Turismo

 

 

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NZskep
in one of the fire stations there is a car which is called 'ECTO1' and looks like the car from ghost busters.

 

if you get in it you can activate 'busting missions' - like the vigilante ones but you have to get ghosts instead.

 

here is a pic

 

user posted image

 

 

srsly

 

 

devil.gif

Bullsh*t...

you win the award for most obvious post ever.

 

 

congratulations. suicidal.gif

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Sabin8

Front of the Sultan RS most definately looks like an Altezza. With a hint of maybe the Subary Legacy, I have no clue where you kids saw either the STI impreza or the Evo in that car, maybe the back looks like an Evo or Impreza, but I can't quite remember how the back of the Sultan RS looks at the moment. Picture of a modified Altezza. I remember reading someones post in here about a damage proof Comet, where o where did you find that baby?

user posted image

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Lazlow87

I recently drove a Contender that headlights on the roof - like the modded Patriot.

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Picolini
in one of the fire stations there is a car which is called 'ECTO1' and looks like the car from ghost busters.

 

if you get in it you can activate 'busting missions' - like the vigilante ones but you have to get ghosts instead.

 

here is a pic

 

http://www.ewoud3d.nl/3dArt/images/ecto-1/ecto-1_1.jpg

 

 

srsly

 

 

devil.gif

I hope that's a lame joke, because I can guarantee there is NO car in the game that even contains the word "ecto". I know for sure the vigilante thing is a joke, but I hope you're joking about the whole thing anyways.

 

This thread doesn't need any jokes, as funny lame as they may be.

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Jimbizzle

Where do i find this Futo GT?

is it any good?

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mufc
Where do i find this Futo GT?

is it any good?

I had one of them by getting it in one of LJ delviery missions, i knew it was rare but i had all my parking spaces filley up and just left it.

Im regretting now as i've found out you can still youse the broker yellow parking spaces sad.gif

 

Bohan

 

Pink Feltzer

Red Sentinel

 

Romans appartment in Algoquin

 

black cagnoscenti

black Huntley sport

 

playboys house

 

Comet from brucie

dark blue Super GT

 

 

Alderny

 

 

A really rusty Vigero

A really brown van can't remeber what i's called but it looks like a rumpo/pony

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SentinelXS
Where do i find this Futo GT?

is it any good?

I had one of them by getting it in one of LJ delviery missions, i knew it was rare but i had all my parking spaces filley up and just left it.

Im regretting now as i've found out you can still youse the broker yellow parking spaces sad.gif

 

Bohan

 

Pink Feltzer

Red Sentinel

 

Romans appartment in Algoquin

 

black cagnoscenti

black Huntley sport

 

playboys house

 

Comet from brucie

dark blue Super GT

 

 

Alderny

 

 

A really rusty Vigero

A really brown van can't remeber what i's called but it looks like a rumpo/pony

the modified Futo (futo gt) and the modified Hakumai can both be found in Bohan near the strip club...it seems to help them spawn if you are driving a reg version of that same car

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cat33
The damage proof Comet, the Jamaican Huntley Sport, and the LCPD Maverick. There might be a news chopper but i have yet to find it.

where do you get the damage proof Comet?

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KINGofCRA5H

ummm.. has anyone noticed the words "ENDO" on the visible intercooler on the sultan rs? i didnt read the whole thread so sorry if its already been mentioned.

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pinky
Front of the Sultan RS most definately looks like an Altezza. With a hint of maybe the Subary Legacy, I have no clue where you kids saw either the STI impreza or the Evo in that car, maybe the back looks like an Evo or Impreza, but I can't quite remember how the back of the Sultan RS looks at the moment. Picture of a modified Altezza. I remember reading someones post in here about a damage proof Comet, where o where did you find that baby?

user posted image

It's close, but one slight technical hitch. The Sultan RS isn't four door.

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lk beffy lk
The Sultan RS has got to be the fastest car availible.

You can find one behind the garages next to the old mansion

its not the fastest car

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