wolfgang187 Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 heres a quote from the sony GTA boards: original post THE ISSUE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED. Just got off the phone with T2 support. The issue that is causing the freezing is actually two separate issues. One is the network problem that the newer PS3's are encountering however the older model, launche units are experiencing an entirely different problem. The launch version of PS3's used a different chip that could run PS2 and PS1 games without emulation. This chip is conflicting with the game code and cause GTA4 to freeze. The T2 representative told me that the fix will indeed not be exclusively in the form of a patch. There will probably be a patch for the issues relating to the network and things that the newer PS3's are facing however.. the older launch 60GB versions and possibly the 20gb, i didnt ask, will require a firmware upgrade that will allow GTA4 to run on the older chip. This firmware upgrade, he said, could be available anytime between tomorrow morning and "as soon as possible" as he put it. The issue is deffinately being adressed and it seems as though they have found what the problem is. So guys lets hope this works and spread this around because this came directly from my 25 minute conversation with T2 support that I just got finished with. Would be sweet if they we got new firmware tomorrow, but i dont wanna get my hopes of actually playing up Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Frost Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 And what about the 80gb? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058022987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgang187 Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 And what about the 80gb? If the post is accurate and many on the PS3 gta boards are assuming it is, it just says rockstar will fix the problems non launch systems are having with a patch, the launch systems on the other hand will probably require a firmware update Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058026563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Well this is definitely pleasing news! Nice find I appreciate the info! Now lets all just hope it comes in a timely manor. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058026643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTKS Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Ok , the firmware update probably be available tomorrow , but , and the Patch?? When??? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058026801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_toast Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 and what about all the multiplayer connection issues? will the patch affect that? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058027134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackc1990 Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 (edited) Well, for the last few days I have recently enabled Internet on my Playstation 3 console (40GB - UK) and it seems to load in all the time and have had no crashes at all. Edited May 5, 2008 by jackc1990 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058027271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTKS Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Ok , the firmware update probably be available tomorrow , but , and the Patch?? When??? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058027301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derty Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Why does rockstar always find a way to squeeze in a firmware update these days? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058027319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgang187 Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 Why does rockstar always find a way to squeeze in a firmware update these days? Sony's working on the firmware. Apparently, the problem with the launch PS3's is the Emotion Engine. It's being triggered for whatever reason an causing the opening cutscene freeze. be nice if this could be fixed sooner rather than later, but with any new firmware, they gotta test it with every game on every type pf PS3, might take some time Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058028293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutslab Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Thanks for the heads up wolfgang, makes me less worried when I purchase a ps3 today/tomorrow. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058028474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loseruser Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 It's strange that they are reporting that it's only happening on a "limited amount of consoles." A poor attempt at damage control? Trying to keep the console flamewars to a minimum, maybe? It seems to be happening to a lot of people, and only recently. This never happened to me before I changed my display resolution for my new component cables. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058028595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit-Boi Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 But if you think about it, lets say, 100 problems on PS3 with people spread over the internet on this and other forums. 1000 out of the million or so it sold is "limited" Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058028660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike88 Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 It's strange that they are reporting that it's only happening on a "limited amount of consoles." A poor attempt at damage control? Trying to keep the console flamewars to a minimum, maybe? It seems to be happening to a lot of people, and only recently. This never happened to me before I changed my display resolution for my new component cables. It's limited because you're only really hearing from the people with problems. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058028952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobo-Lord Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 good thing the ps3 is finally getting an update! * i am a 360 fanboy Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058030498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgang187 Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 Just a reply from Rockstar: Thanks for the email. Sorry to hear about your problems with Grand Theft Auto IV. A very small percentage of consumers experiencing a game freeze on the PS3 version at the very beginning of the single player game may be doing so due to a hardware-related issue that applies to a specific batch of launch PS3 60GB units. We are working with Sony to find a solution for this issue as quickly as possible. We also identified an issue whereby bad data being returned from one of Gamespy's servers was causing the single player game to crash at the beginning of the game if the gamer was connected to PSN. Gamespy have implemented a fix that resolves this issue and both companies are continuing to monitor this situation closely. We are extremely sorry to hear about any of our fans experiencing problems, and want to assure everyone that we and our partners are working around the clock to resolve any issues. We want every single person’s experience of Grand Theft Auto IV to be outstanding. Any further support updates will be posted at www.rockstargames.com/support as soon as they are available. Hope this helps, Rockstar Games the gamespy server thing is interesting, just hope they hurry the hell up on the hardware fix Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058030606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUNBEE2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Is this update ging to fix loading problems, I tried to put all my PS3 and bluray dvds and no matter what my PS3 will not load up any disc, but it is to late now because I am sending it to be repaired today. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058033503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu.yates Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Can someone please send a heads up when the firmware or patch download is available. Cheers Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058033542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotiv Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Question is can I plug PSN back in without freeze... Id like to hear some official news... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058033876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woozie92 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Question is can I plug PSN back in without freeze... Id like to hear some official news... They said the problem with newer models has been solved with gamespy (their servers were sending bad data). You should be able to play it connected to psn without freezing now. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058034259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotiv Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Question is can I plug PSN back in without freeze... Id like to hear some official news... They said the problem with newer models has been solved with gamespy (their servers were sending bad data). You should be able to play it connected to psn without freezing now. well this should then solve my problems...But still, before I hook up my psn again..idd like to hear it from T2's mouth first Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058034498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan50 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I have a 60 gig from when they slashed the prices down to 500 bucks. Is it a newer one that is a 60 gig or is it still a launch console? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/341677-problem-finally-isolated/?do=findComment&comment=1058036044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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