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R* Removed So Much Stuff


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Claude GTA3

 

Um... ok, I'll leave you and your GTAIV box to have some private time since you are such a mature gamer.

 

I'm an idiot and you claim what was in GTA1-3 even PASSED for a story...  I think that speaks for itself.

Why yes, It is. GTA SA had a farfetched story, and it's stupid.

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Um... ok, I'll leave you and your GTAIV box to have some private time since you are such a mature gamer.

 

I'm an idiot and you claim what was in GTA1-3 even PASSED for a story...   I think that speaks for itself.

Why yes, It is. GTA SA had a farfetched story, and it's stupid.

Yes, what is? When you respond with a Yes, you really should be quoting a yes or no question.

 

All these stories are far fetched, and most of them are stupid. So?

 

GTA1-3 barely had any story at all.

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Srs dumbasses in this thread. Why do you think they took so much sh*t out? So they can make you download it all again for a price. Wait for the marketplace, you'll find your stash.

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Far as I can tell they have removed only my beloved Cheetah*cry* You can't remove what was never in the game really. If you say they didn't put in everything they said they would I understand. To the guy on the first page saying it's not a 10. I agree but it's at least a 9 or above though. This game is far from coasting on popularity. The GTA clones however are rolling along on GTA's popularity however.

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Catalinaslover

 

Srs dumbasses in this thread. Why do you think they took so much sh*t out? So they can make you download it all again for a price. Wait for the marketplace, you'll find your stash.

 

Yes sir i be happy to stand in line and be labeld as a sucker for buying 50% of a game and then buy the other 50% for another 110$

 

seriously i dont give a fly*n F*ck about the price if they deliver...tick tack..vacation is over time to get back to work on the DLC Dudes.

 

 

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NYYOwnUAll

when did they remove listening to the radio on the phone? i thought it was on the more advanced models of phones

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Catalinaslover

 

when did they remove listening to the radio on the phone? i thought it was on the more advanced models of phones

 

Yea uhh...rite now id be happy if i could take pics coz im a stalker

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don't forget destructable environments (damage a building and it stays damaged for the rest of the game), and being able to enter MOST buildings in the city. they should have kept their mouths shut about stuff until it was finished.

 

that said, IV is f*cking great and the most fun of all the GTAs for me. a lot of people just really love the way the old games played and compare everything, but if you can just stop comparing and experience IV as a completely new game you might find that it's even more fun.

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fingerless gloves would have went well with my Agent 47 killer suit. idk it would make me feel more cool if i could have had them. soem of the stuff seems useless others seem cool. ill take what i can get. its not like they wont add it in a patch. theres always the oppurtunity.

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i really dotn get why peopel have an issue about people missing certain aspects of older games

 

as the series went on more and more features were added.

 

now its taken a step back.

 

arguments ive seen include

1. stuff was broken - i dont recal ever thinking anthing was broken

2. it was pointless crap no one needed - besides the point really, all the computergames, pool,darts, girlfriends etc are just as pointless, internet. but peopel like them

3. no one liked those features - obviously peopel did or theyre wouldnt be so many threads

4. its an action game not a rpg - no its not a rpg but its a sandbox game, whats the point in a sandbox game without a ton of features that make it replayable over and over

5. gta4>SA - thats just a matter of opinion and peopel missing features arent sayign they hate gta4

I agree, its sometimes the little details in games that make them great and replayable. Does GTA IV need pool, darts, bowling, gfs, or the internet? No, but they are fun little additions. Did GTA VC, and SA need the wide variety of weapons, and vehicles they had? No, but they added to what made those games great.

 

 

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All you have said is useless..

Wrong, None of what he said was useless. Every day I come to these forums I find out another feature that was cut from GTA4. It's amazing that Rockstar removed that many features, even San andreas had way more features. I was greatly disappointed that they removed the ability to listen to the radio using your cellphone. Remember it the little things that count and if all the fun features are removed from the game it just becomes dull and boring.What happened to the ability to open trunks? or how about taking photos and sending them to your friends? You can't tell me that the storyline is the only thing that makes the game great. Other then the better graphics which have been destroyed by the blur in the background the game just gets boring. I mean how many times are you going to play bowling with Roman? After you beat the storyline there's not much else to do, it feels boring which kills the replay value of the game.

To be fair, after I completed the storyline for SA I got bored. Getting bored is in the eye of the beholder I guess, and just dickinga round in casinos didn't excite me.

Well if you save the game at a certain point you can go back. Yall dudes just overrite, save the game at different points to go back. Thats why San Andreas never got old to me. And how the hell can you get bored in a 3 city game? That hitman sh*t in IV is only gonna last so long and Im pissed off that there are hardly anymore interiors than anyother GTA game. Its like Im driving in a city that I cant even do sh*t on. Algonquin is so big yet all it has is a comedy club, a pay n spray, and a gun shop? Man please.

Los Santos bored me because I couldn't care less about gang culture after the first ten minutes, San Fierro barely interested me in terms of story, and Las Venturas was predictable.

You can save and overwrite a saved game and do the same thing in IV as you could in SA.

 

Basically, it comes down to what you want. San Andreas was labelled as a state, it felt like a county with plenty of wasted space. Liberty City was called a city and it actually feels and looks like a city in terms of scope and detail.

The story for San Andreas was actually fine at first, but got insane after you left Los Santos and I quickly lost interest. The story in IV never becomes insane and feels realistic. So, just there, I'd play IV's story more than I've played SAs story.

Now when we get into extra content, it is about what you want. I didn't care about gambling and whatnot, so most of SAs extras didn't do much for me. So, after the main game of SA, I got bored.

If other people DIDN'T get bored, power to them.

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Catalinaslover

 

Los Santos bored me because I couldn't care less about gang culture after the first ten minutes, San Fierro barely interested me in terms of story, and Las Venturas was predictable.

You can save and overwrite a saved game and do the same thing in IV as you could in SA.

 

Basically, it comes down to what you want. San Andreas was labelled as a state, it felt like a county with plenty of wasted space. Liberty City was called a city and it actually feels and looks like a city in terms of scope and detail.

The story for San Andreas was actually fine at first, but got insane after you left Los Santos and I quickly lost interest. The story in IV never becomes insane and feels realistic. So, just there, I'd play IV's story more than I've played SAs story.

Now when we get into extra content, it is about what you want. I didn't care about gambling and whatnot, so most of SAs extras didn't do much for me. So, after the main game of SA, I got bored.

If other people DIDN'T get bored, power to them.

 

I got bored from reading this.

Power to you.

 

 

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the fingerless gloves looked cool...

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Eagleheart

They said we'd be able to coast a rocket on the ground but I haven't been able to do that yet. But I was able to get one to slide around the walls inside the statue of happiness which killed two pigeons biggrin.gif

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Oh FFS! What a bunch of pedantic little pissants the ones whining about the lack of fingerless gloves and not being able to open car trunks etc. Get the f*ck over it and enjoy the hundreds of things there are to do and not bitch about the few useless things there aren't.

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If you don't play these games for the story, then you are missing Rockstar's point entirely.

Yeah, that's why I played GTA1-3... the engrossing story... sarcasm.gif

I did play them for the story. I have never ignored a line of text or a cutscene in a GTA. I actually pay attention to the story of a game. It's pretty sad when you ignore what's actually going on. I guess you actually DID miss the point then, Mr Sarcastic. I hate This ADD generation...

No. For an awesome story, I can play Mafia.

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Catalinaslover
Oh FFS! What a bunch of pedantic little pissants the ones whining about the lack of fingerless gloves and not being able to open car trunks etc. Get the f*ck over it and enjoy the hundreds of things there are to do and not bitch about the few useless things there aren't.

I think its time i got out off my closet, yeah, i LOVE pigeons, its almost a weird fetisch for me...and they r so many :)The only sad thing is they didnt include a golf club so i could practice my swing while yelling BIRDIE COMING UP

 

 

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stopdropgta

I heard that they were so swamped with working out the bugs they forgot to remove the clothes from the strippers in the game. Damn it they are wearing bikini's now!

 

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Savage Johnson

is Chris Crocker logged on this forum? cos all i hear is "LEAVE R* ALOOOOONE!!!"

 

they took stuff out that they didnt need to take out. there is no advantage to removing the customising cars feature, or even that stupid dancing night club feature for that matter. it would have taken almost no disk space at all.

i LOVE the game. its a great game, but what possible advantage is there to take away what made the older games great?

its an honest question. i actually want to know. so try to reply in your big boy voices without the insults.

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what possible advantage is there to take away what made the older games great?

 

That stuff didn't make the older games great. Once I'd customised a car in San Andreas all I did was leave it in my garage because I didn't want to take it out and risk it catching fire and exploding after I took the time to customise it. confused.gif

 

Most of the stuff that was cut was useless anyway IMO. I don't want to look in the trunk of a car or listen to the radio on my phone, why would I?

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what possible advantage is there to take away what made the older games great?

 

That stuff didn't make the older games great. Once I'd customised a car in San Andreas all I did was leave it in my garage because I didn't want to take it out and risk it catching fire and exploding after I took the time to customise it. confused.gif

 

Most of the stuff that was cut was useless anyway IMO. I don't want to look in the trunk of a car or listen to the radio on my phone, why would I?

Hmm... that didn't really answer the question. The question was "what advantage to removing it" and the answer was, "It wasn't a great feature"

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what possible advantage is there to take away what made the older games great?

 

That stuff didn't make the older games great. Once I'd customised a car in San Andreas all I did was leave it in my garage because I didn't want to take it out and risk it catching fire and exploding after I took the time to customise it. confused.gif

 

Most of the stuff that was cut was useless anyway IMO. I don't want to look in the trunk of a car or listen to the radio on my phone, why would I?

Hmm... that didn't really answer the question. The question was "what advantage to removing it" and the answer was, "It wasn't a great feature"

i really liked customising my car. i thought it was great.

guess that was just me then.

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what possible advantage is there to take away what made the older games great?

 

That stuff didn't make the older games great. Once I'd customised a car in San Andreas all I did was leave it in my garage because I didn't want to take it out and risk it catching fire and exploding after I took the time to customise it. confused.gif

 

Most of the stuff that was cut was useless anyway IMO. I don't want to look in the trunk of a car or listen to the radio on my phone, why would I?

Hmm... that didn't really answer the question. The question was "what advantage to removing it" and the answer was, "It wasn't a great feature"

Well, the question is void IMO because the stuff that was removed didn't make the other games great.

 

One advantage I can see is that it makes the game less gimmicky by removing all of the trivial stuff like dancing, car customisation etc. I didn't buy this game to do that kind of stuff and I expect most of the target audience didn't either. I doubt R* would have cut all of this stuff without conducting market research, if the target audience doesn't want it, why have it?

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Catalinaslover

 

what possible advantage is there to take away what made the older games great?

 

That stuff didn't make the older games great. Once I'd customised a car in San Andreas all I did was leave it in my garage because I didn't want to take it out and risk it catching fire and exploding after I took the time to customise it. confused.gif

 

Most of the stuff that was cut was useless anyway IMO. I don't want to look in the trunk of a car or listen to the radio on my phone, why would I?

Hmm... that didn't really answer the question. The question was "what advantage to removing it" and the answer was, "It wasn't a great feature"

 

Lol yea...

The promised mp3/phone feature would be a great feature improvment.

Just because some dude dont find some features fun they should be deleted???

Wtf

 

Buy True street crime as the Fascist cops you come through with ur wievs.

 

 

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dewan2000

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but you are forgetting about downloadable content. Nobody knows what they are going to be puting into the two large downloadable contents yet. But GG to all you that bought ps3 version and dont get downloadable content as far as we know. GO play multiplayer if you are bored of the game then or mabye some of you should of slowed down and actually tried to enjoy and appreciate the game instead of going all out and being like "LOLOLOL I BEAT THE GAME FIRST IM COOL"

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Savage Johnson

forget whether or not they were "great features" or "gimicky" features

 

some were just removed with out a reason.

 

i asked "what advantage was there to take them out?".

even the little things that are just pointlessly removed. you can find a forklift that doesnt lift anything, there is no "no radio" station (you have to turn the radio down in the pause options), theres are no cop bikes (let alone push bikes) , no parachuttes.

they may or may not have been "great" features, but i cant think of an advantage in removing them.

lol take the forklift for example. if youre going to go as far as to put one in the game why disable it?

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I'm about 55% in the game, and i haven't seen the two other different haircuts yet for niko. I like rockstar, no i love rockstar, but i hardly hope that the reason why they removed all that stuff we know so far, isn't to add all of that in a possible profitable add-on pack. You're already rich with the original game rockstar, don't f*ck up your fans.

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Catalinaslover

 

lol take the forklift for example. if youre going to go as far as to put one in the game why disable it?

 

Forlift update patch only 3.99$

With this beautiful patch ur forklift is now fully operationable you can even lift small boxes with it.

 

 

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Savage Johnson
lol take the forklift for example. if youre going to go as far as to put one in the game why disable it?

 

Forlift update patch only 3.99$

With this beautiful patch ur forklift is now fully operationable you can even lift small boxes with it.

aaah. i see now. it's all fitting together.

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Ok, not read all this topic so don't know if you guys are still on topic or not. But i think this is as good a place as any to have my wee rant about what quite a few people seem to be moaning about.

 

I've noticed a lot of folk are going on about how they removed so much stuff or how there is not as much to spend your money on (which is a fair point, don't get me wrong), but some of the topics I have read seem like people were expecting to have every little feature from all the old GTA's included in GTA IV.

 

Now I did not read up on this GTA prior to its release as much as I did with more or less all the other GTA's, so I ain't sure what was all was promised to be in the game. And if there was stuff said to be in the game that is not in it then really it is just like more or less every other game tounge.gif.

 

Personally I think this game was brilliant, and I could not have expected more from it. And thinking about what was all was in GTA III, then all the new stuff that got added in VC and SA, I cant actually wait for the next GTA (wither they will do the whole VC and SA thing again I don't know... probably will have topics about that very soon tounge.gif).

 

The point I'm trying to make is that GTA IV is probably going to be like GTA III. The start\building block of the trilogy. You cant really expect R* to push every little feature they have into the game, for the simple fact if they did do that then the next GTA would just be all the same stuff, just in a different location. Which quite simply would just be sh*t.

 

Ok, think I kind of said what I was trying to there... tounge.gif

 

P.S. O' I read one topic (think it was on these forums) where someone was going on about the game being just under 7GB on the disk, when the disks can hold about 8. And they were moaning about R* not filling the full thing. Quite simply I donut think the first stage of them designing the game was "Ok, we need to make this game 8GB". - Just another wee rant I wanted there... I'm finished now... I promise smile.gif

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