R* Removed So Much Stuff

[wayninja]

Here is why I like this post- he uses an actual argument instead of, "LOL CHOICE!"

Haha, your right, it's much better than just saying "I don't like it therefore its a bad game element and should be removed"...

[GtaFreak_blingbling]

R* have removed so much stuff they promised in the game i cant name them all but there was dragging bodies, listening to music on cellphone, taking photos and sending them to freinds, fingerless gloves, etc

 

why do you think they took so much out?

Dude it's all because of the Xbox360 DLC it has been reported before that Rockstar will keep these for the DLC that is coming this august

[elpepemonster]

R* have removed so much stuff they promised in the game i cant name them all but there was dragging bodies, listening to music on cellphone, taking photos and sending them to freinds, fingerless gloves, etc

 

why do you think they took so much out?

well think about it, the game took about 100 million to make and if they would have added all of the stuff that they prmised, it would have cost more to make and it wouldnt fit on a 20 gig disck ( thats what its on,right?, well atleast the ps3 has dual and triple layered bd's)also, the game would cost more and in future gta games there wouldnt be no room for improvement cuz you already have a game that would be like 100 out of 10. but one thing that did piss me off is that you cant get drunk in free roam and you cant smoke, or buy your house ( not a stylish one though) or buy a couple of businesses and turnthem into drug businesses. also car customisation is gone ( prolly the best feature) and theres not enough guns and clothes.

[dawg1990]

R* have removed so much stuff they promised in the game i cant name them all but there was dragging bodies, listening to music on cellphone, taking photos and sending them to freinds, fingerless gloves, etc

 

why do you think they took so much out?

well think about it, the game took about 100 million to make and if they would have added all of the stuff that they prmised, it would have cost more to make and it wouldnt fit on a 20 gig disck ( thats what its on,right?, well atleast the ps3 has dual and triple layered bd's)also, the game would cost more and in future gta games there wouldnt be no room for improvement cuz you already have a game that would be like 100 out of 10. but one thing that did piss me off is that you cant get drunk in free roam and you cant smoke, or buy your house ( not a stylish one though) or buy a couple of businesses and turnthem into drug businesses. also car customisation is gone ( prolly the best feature) and theres not enough guns and clothes.

if it didnt fit on one disc, the could make 2 disks

[Owen1993]

They took out

 

-An anywhere environment. It's just a city. A cold city. Whereas in SA you could go from the country to the city to the desert to the middle of nowhere.

 

-Better weapons

 

-Better cheats. Anything you could imagine to make the game fun

 

-Planes, exotic vehicles, etc.

 

-Better driving mechanics. Who honestly wants to drive realistic as compared to GTA SA? You might as well get a wanted lvl for driving through a red light.

 

And more stuff like UFO secrets and stuff.. SA was much more fun.

[mattc1515]

i'm sure they had too remove quite a bit of stuff becuase of disc space not a prob for bluray though

[AZAZEL]

 

listening to music on cellphone

 

That is possible when you get the best phone with the FM radio, no?

 

 

 

So, you don't know, but call other people ignorant?

 

I was asking a question, which should be more than enough of an indication that I'm not sure. He was presenting his statements as solid facts, which is what merited my comment on his ignorance.

 

From your response I take it that you can't, then. Slightly annoyed by that, but then again, people keep complaining that the radio stations are utter crap, so it's not much of a loss.

[KieranMurphy]

I think we have all realised something has went horribly wrong

Something has gone horribly wrong?

 

These forums make me laugh, they really do with posts like this.

 

OH N0SES WE DONT HAS TEH FINGERLESS GLOVES AND TATT00S AND you CANT CL1MB TEH LAMPOLEZZZ!!!111 ITS ALL WENT HORRiBLY WRONGZ0RZ!!111

 

 

[WellsMcK]

 

No sh*t it's my opinon, thanks for confirming.

 

You can rationalize taking things out all you want and to me it's fine if R* wanted to take stuff out because they didnt' jive with the vibe or whatever, but the problem is, they didn't really replace them with anything.

 

Oh, sure, the graphics and rag-doll physics are nice, much better than SA, but that's about it.  Other than little details you see once in a blue moon, there's not much more going for this game over SA.  Are you saying the story for SA wasn't good?  I thought it was.  CJ and CRASH were awesome IMHO.

 

I'm not playing the game for the story, if I want a great story, I'll read a book.  A good story is a bonus, but not the primary reason I'm playing/replaying.

 

As for multiplayer, I was an idiot and bought a 360 not realizing that you had to pay monthy fees for the priveledge of playing online, and that pisses me off... oh well.

You didn't know that XBL cost money? Wow you are really stupid. That is one of the biggest differences between Xbox 360 and Ps3. Xbox Live is only $50 a year, if you can afford and xbox 360 and GTA IV you must be able to afford XBL.

[thor1to3for5]

They took out the lighting showcased in trailer one. Fanboys, GO!

[GTAfanatical]

why does everyone jump down peopels throats when they miss features from san adreas?

[NedStark]

The only thing you guys should be complaining about is having to WAIT for said features.

 

If you think the DLC is an afterthought and hasn't even been started yet then you are not too quick. It is more likely than not already finished, and I'm willing to guess 50% of it was actually straight from the GTAIV pre-final game.

 

I imagine R* cut things most purposefully to slip into the DLC. Since I believe (as it has been said by Houser) it will be a mostly story driven update, they are going to implement things that were ready for GTAIV but didn't really need to be included because the hype would cover their revenue schemes moreso than fingerless gloves or body-dragging.

[thor1to3for5]

 

The only thing you guys should be complaining about is having to WAIT for said features.

 

If you think the DLC is an afterthought and hasn't even been started yet then you are not too quick. It is more likely than not already finished, and I'm willing to guess 50% of it was actually straight from the GTAIV pre-final game.

 

I imagine R* cut things most purposefully to slip into the DLC. Since I believe (as it has been said by Houser) it will be a mostly story driven update, they are going to implement things that were ready for GTAIV but didn't really need to be included because the hype would cover their revenue schemes moreso than fingerless gloves or body-dragging.

I can agree with this but it is so sad R* would take that route with us. When did it become OK to sell people half a game then charge them more for the rest of it?

[wildhalcyon]

I can agree with this but it is so sad R* would take that route with us. When did it become OK to sell people half a game then charge them more for the rest of it?

When they discovered that people will pay for half a game. That's what capitalism is all about, after all. I don't mind it much, and its part of the nature of the marketplace now.

 

As for features that were "missing", I think 3/4ths of the features were never confirmed to begin with. The other 25% were things that were implemented in SA, but not included in IV. I like the features in GTAIV that weren't included in SA much better though. I would rather use the cover system and the dynamic collision models than get fat and play roulette.

[BlackMamba47]

Jesus Christ this is really getting annoying. If people had been following the game since it was announced, and even in the recent months, most of you blithering idiots would have realized that all of the sh*t you did in SA would most likely be taken out (the RPG aspects, purchasing properties, car modding, airplanes) or reworked (the number of clothes you could buy, other things, etc.). It is your fault of your expectations got totally out of hand and you expected the game to be the 3rd coming of Jesus, so don't blame R* for making the game exactly as they said they would, dumbasses.

[kieranefc]

dragging bodies

Could just be me, but when was that confirmed?

 

 

listening to music on cellphone

 

That is possible when you get the best phone with the FM radio, no?

 

 

taking photos and sending them to freinds

 

You take pictures and send them to in-game friends on various occasions.

 

 

fingerless gloves

 

 

 

why do you think they took so much out?

 

I can only conclude that they didn't, only that you're in the top 10 of most unobservant, ignorant people on this forum.

shutup ye stupid c*nt!

[QwertyAAA]

dragging bodies

Could just be me, but when was that confirmed?

 

 

listening to music on cellphone

 

That is possible when you get the best phone with the FM radio, no?

 

 

taking photos and sending them to freinds

 

You take pictures and send them to in-game friends on various occasions.

 

 

fingerless gloves

 

 

 

why do you think they took so much out?

 

I can only conclude that they didn't, only that you're in the top 10 of most unobservant, ignorant people on this forum.

shutup ye stupid c*nt!

Ah, yes. The flamewar between the smart person and the stupid person. I'll look forward to reading it.

[GTAfanatical]

your both idiots

 

1 who cant let people have their own opinions about things, callign them idiots for actually missing features alot of people had grown to like in previous games

 

and the other for spamming back

 

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seriously what is it with peopel on the net. ya cant just play nice, always have to wave your penis at each other trying to get 1 up

 

 

[chitoryu12]

No sh*t it's my opinon, thanks for confirming.

 

You can rationalize taking things out all you want and to me it's fine if R* wanted to take stuff out because they didnt' jive with the vibe or whatever, but the problem is, they didn't really replace them with anything.

 

Oh, sure, the graphics and rag-doll physics are nice, much better than SA, but that's about it. Other than little details you see once in a blue moon, there's not much more going for this game over SA. Are you saying the story for SA wasn't good? I thought it was. CJ and CRASH were awesome IMHO.

 

I'm not playing the game for the story, if I want a great story, I'll read a book. A good story is a bonus, but not the primary reason I'm playing/replaying.

 

As for multiplayer, I was an idiot and bought a 360 not realizing that you had to pay monthy fees for the priveledge of playing online, and that pisses me off... oh well.

How was CJ vs. CRASH a good story? All that happened was Samuel L. Jackson made a gangster from the ghetto his bitch and worked things behind the scenes. Every time CRASH appeared it was to make CJ, whether he was a small-time gangbanger or a millionaire and owner of several lucrative businesses, their bitch and make him run around and shoot people to keep them from getting exposed. CRASH took a back seat to CJ's attempts to become a high-profile criminal, to the point where when I did their mission in Las Venturas I had completely forgotten they were involved.

 

While CRASH did indeed move the story along, they did it in a rather heavy-handed manner. No explanation was given for why CJ was doing anything they told him up until they got Sweet arrested, at which point they appeared more and more sporadically up until the fateful Las Venturas mission. When they return to Los Santos, Tenpenny disappears again until the very end of the game. CRASH served no other purpose than to come up behind the story and give it a boot to the ass when it needed it.

 

P.S. It ain't ragdoll, bitch. Get the difference between ragdoll and euphoria.

[Raindance]

All you have said is useless..

LOL totally agree

[T-Wall]

Compare GTA 3 to GTA 4. There is a reason why VC and SA were not 4 and five respectively. This is the beginning of a new era and yes they did leave alot out, but those things they left out were not what GTA is truly about, it is what it evolved to be. Gambling was fun but I didn't spend too much time with it. Sure I liked to put NOS on cars but little did I do that. I found myself playing VC more than SA for replay value.

 

Playing GTA for gambling is OK but what not pick up a gambling game. Playing it for racing pick up GT or NFS. It's is a blend of the world that is GTA is desired. ATVs are for motorstorm. Compare GTA SA to GTA 4 it does fall flat with the cool little waste of time stuff, but the meat is still there in 4. This was the most original (maybe not the best) storyline, most expensive GTA ever and it leaves alot of room for the next GTA's as did GTA 3 for VC and SA. This is not a downgrade in some respects just others it all depends where you put your value in gameplay.

[Jamezz]

The points you mentioned are so petty i dont see why they would make a difference even in they was in the game.

OMG FINGERLESS GLOVES NOW THIS GAME IS AWESOME! /sarcasm off

[BoneheadGTA]

Oh, wow.

 

I was about to go and stick my dick in GTA IV's game case and make passionate love. But no fingurless gloves you say? HOW WILL I GO ON.

 

Wanker.

[grimroxster]

R* have removed so much stuff they promised in the game i cant name them all but there was dragging bodies, listening to music on cellphone, taking photos and sending them to freinds, fingerless gloves, etc

 

why do you think they took so much out?

If you would play the game more, you will soon realize that you as a matter in fact can take pictures and send them to people. You need to be far enough though.

[wayninja]

No sh*t it's my opinon, thanks for confirming.

 

You can rationalize taking things out all you want and to me it's fine if R* wanted to take stuff out because they didnt' jive with the vibe or whatever, but the problem is, they didn't really replace them with anything.

 

Oh, sure, the graphics and rag-doll physics are nice, much better than SA, but that's about it.  Other than little details you see once in a blue moon, there's not much more going for this game over SA.  Are you saying the story for SA wasn't good?  I thought it was.  CJ and CRASH were awesome IMHO.

 

I'm not playing the game for the story, if I want a great story, I'll read a book.  A good story is a bonus, but not the primary reason I'm playing/replaying.

 

As for multiplayer, I was an idiot and bought a 360 not realizing that you had to pay monthy fees for the priveledge of playing online, and that pisses me off... oh well.

You didn't know that XBL cost money? Wow you are really stupid. That is one of the biggest differences between Xbox 360 and Ps3. Xbox Live is only $50 a year, if you can afford and xbox 360 and GTA IV you must be able to afford XBL.

I didn't say I couldn't afford it. Man you must be illiterate or retarded...

[M22NYC25]

R* have removed so much stuff they promised in the game i cant name them all but there was dragging bodies, listening to music on cellphone, taking photos and sending them to freinds, fingerless gloves, etc

 

why do you think they took so much out?

i dont think this stuff was ever "promised" by R*.

 

I think a lot of people assumed it would be in it or people started rumors.

[jared1409]

Dude, this is what happens to successful franchises after about the 3rd game in the series, sometimes it takes more sequels, and sometimes less, but at some point the people who are funding the game are going to start coasting on popularity at the expense of fun.

 

Don't get me wrong, this game is very good, but it ain't no 10/10 like all the mags are claiming...

No actually, I think it is the exact opposite frankly. R* is continuing to deliver quality products as the series go on, and the have worked harder on gta 4 than any other previous titles. And it shows.

[pbrox]

 

They took out

 

-An anywhere environment. It's just a city. A cold city. Whereas in SA you could go from the country to the city to the desert to the middle of nowhere.

 

-Better weapons

 

-Better cheats. Anything you could imagine to make the game fun

 

-Planes, exotic vehicles, etc.

 

-Better driving mechanics. Who honestly wants to drive realistic as compared to GTA SA? You might as well get a wanted lvl for driving through a red light.

 

And more stuff like UFO secrets and stuff.. SA was much more fun.

I think you hit the bullseye with this argument. I have to agree. meh

[tcrat]

I loved SA and all, but to throw my opinions into the thread:

 

 

An anywhere environment. It's just a city. A cold city. Whereas in SA you could go from the country to the city to the desert to the middle of nowhere.

LC struck me as a rather lively city, especially compared to previous GTA games. Sure SA had a bigger map which included deserts and the middle of nowhere, but I found those places to be pretty boring - there's not much to do while stranded in a desert or a forest after all. I spent most of my time in SA inside the actual 3 cities, but even then it felt like there was nothing to see while walking or crusing around.

 

 

Better weapons

I might miss the gas or minigun, but I can't think of many weapons aside from that. Mostly I still found myself using weapons like the AK which are still in GTA4, and to be honest, what's the point of having 'better weapons' when the combat itself is so stale and boring?

 

 

Better cheats. Anything you could imagine to make the game fun

For those that do cheat XD

GTA4 has the ones that matter (wanted levels, weapons, health, vehicles).

 

 

Planes, exotic vehicles, etc.

I will miss the planes, but by and by they were mostly just a way for me to get from city to city without having to drive through the boring parts

 

 

Better driving mechanics. Who honestly wants to drive realistic as compared to GTA SA? You might as well get a wanted lvl for driving through a red light.

It took time to adjust, but I'm liking the new system. Sure you might have to slow down in order to take some turns, but that isn't too bad. Now that I'm used to how the cars handle, I find it easy to drive like I used to in previous games, as well being able to do quick 180s, etc.

 

 

The other features I won't miss too much. Having to eat and go to the gym just seemed to distract me from what I really wanted to do, and felt more like I was micromanaging or playing the Sims. Then again I hate managing relationships in GTA4. I like having the choices, but they don't really seem like choices when you get punished for deciding not to. Clothing/appearance is another thing I wont really miss as I was never fond of the selection in SA. With GTA4 I tend to stick with a nice suit since the game really does a nice job of making me feel like a Hitman, and there seems to be a nice selection of options in multiplayer after unlocking a few options.

 

As for holding onto cars, I haven't seen Niko do it, but I'm pretty sure I've seen at least one NPC try to save his ride. During the mission where I confronted Luca about the stolen diamonds, when it came time to steal a car after they tried to escape, the owner of the car didn't seem to want to give up for a while.

[wayninja]

Dude, this is what happens to successful franchises after about the 3rd game in the series, sometimes it takes more sequels, and sometimes less, but at some point the people who are funding the game are going to start coasting on popularity at the expense of fun.

 

Don't get me wrong, this game is very good, but it ain't no 10/10 like all the mags are claiming...

No actually, I think it is the exact opposite frankly. R* is continuing to deliver quality products as the series go on, and the have worked harder on gta 4 than any other previous titles. And it shows.

Ah, the good ol' 'less is more' argument.

 

It makes one wonder:

 

1. Why those elements ever appeared in a GTA game in the first place

 

2. If all the fanboys here saying some/all of those features were sh*te were saying that when SA came out...

 

 

Hmmm....

 

Again, GTA IV is a good game... great even, but it's not a 10/10. There's something fishy there despite all the fanboys saying that R* are gods.