Subby89 Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 (edited) Hey all. I recently got the game on friday and have been playing both the single player and multiplayer quite a lot. But there are a few things that bug me when it comes to playing multiplayer. 1. Not showing who is talking in-game. Normally in games, a symbol and a players name showing who is talking shows up. Without this its hard to know who your actually talking to without shouting asking who the hell is talking. Also its almost impossible to know in-game who is being the ass on the other end and singing or something stupid. If I don't know who, how can I mute them? Hmm? 2. Second is allowing auto-aim in a shooting game. Fair enough in the single player, but why multiplayer? Just defeats the object of skill in a shooter. Wheres the skill in shooting the driver at top speed coming towards you when auto-aim is on. Auto-aim makes the multi very boring and predictable. Yes people can turn it off, yet I fine more games with it on than off. Why? Honestly I have no idea. Your just getting rid of the fun! 3. Third is the lobby system. A lot of the time people switch teams just at the last second before the game starts and the game is hugely unbalanced! A system where by even teams must be implemented. For instance, you create a lobby where you can invite friends. From here you can choose what game type you would like to play. Once in a lobby with other people, people's parties are shown by having the same colour, so we know who is in a party and who is by themselves. The system then puts people in random teams (hopefully making sure parties STAY together). This is all I have so far. With these changes it would make the whole GTA online experience more pleasent, instead of just a little add-on to the game. Please comment and add suggestions. - Subby Edited May 4, 2008 by Subby89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishrebal Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 in reference to point 2 its the hosts decision if auto-aim is on or off for some game modes and how is it a flaw its perfectly fine its not as if you can't auto aim to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subby89 Posted May 4, 2008 Author Share Posted May 4, 2008 in reference to point 2 its the hosts decision if auto-aim is on or off for some game modes and how is it a flaw its perfectly fine its not as if you can't auto aim to. Yes, but it just defeats the object of skillful shooting. Pull one trigger for lock on and one for fireing... how boring? Ok.. let me suggest something else. There should be a filter whereby you can search for games that disable the auto-aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Down Bohan Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Biggest problem by far is the lobby (or lack thereof) They need a lobby that categorizes rooms by mode, skill level, and other options like auto aim, police on/off, etc. The way it's setup now, you just have to take whatever you get automatically put into, so it can be very hit or miss, and most of the times I try to start my own game, nobody joins the room, or maybe one person at best. You have to play through quite a few dud games or just flat out abort some busted games before you end up with a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subby89 Posted May 4, 2008 Author Share Posted May 4, 2008 Wow, multiplayer annoys me. If no changed are made, I see GTA multiplayer not even lasting 2 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey. Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Wowowowo first they need to correct the rankin points system before they do anythin else other wise what is the point if they just wipe out all your points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottlecaps Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Wowowowo first they need to correct the rankin points system before they do anythin else other wise what is the point if they just wipe out all your points. well first i would say that they need to fix the game so that everyone can play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subby89 Posted May 4, 2008 Author Share Posted May 4, 2008 Wowowowo first they need to correct the rankin points system before they do anythin else other wise what is the point if they just wipe out all your points. well first i would say that they need to fix the game so that everyone can play I agree. I can't even pull a good game together with a few mates because the lobby system is so flawed! If they thought about it a little and got it working it would of been fine. I dont understand why they made it so horribliy. The game types are fine, yes.. but getting a game together with friends quickly (like CoD or halo)... do not even try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishrebal Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 agreed so what can they do tho. can they release a patch or something downloadable to fix these things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subby89 Posted May 4, 2008 Author Share Posted May 4, 2008 They can patch it. This would be a auto download as soon as you start up GTA while connected to xbox live/PSN. I do hope they listen to us and get it sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxit Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 They need to sort the damn lobby out. Followed by more control for hosts including an option to create a non-rank game or a ranked one, kicking players should be improved(We don't need a group vote for someone who won't follow orders). Team speak should also be allowed to be played through tv speakers instead of requiring a headset.(Extremely annoying on psn when no one has a mic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subby89 Posted May 4, 2008 Author Share Posted May 4, 2008 They need to sort the damn lobby out. Followed by more control for hosts including an option to create a non-rank game or a ranked one, kicking players should be improved(We don't need a group vote for someone who won't follow orders). Team speak should also be allowed to be played through tv speakers instead of requiring a headset.(Extremely annoying on psn when no one has a mic) U can do ranked and non-ranked. Non-ranked matches are under "Player Match". Ranked, obviously under "ranked" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan001 Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 I would like to see a list of people who are hosting game, and be able to see what gamemode, how many players and connection strength they have. You know, the typical things you would expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicblaze Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 a lobby would be good but then when ur able to see a list u always wanna pick the popular games the sorting system helps make sure everyone gets into a game and theres none left half empty because they dont like the uneven numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold steam Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 (edited) They need to sort the damn lobby out. Followed by more control for hosts including an option to create a non-rank game or a ranked one, kicking players should be improved(We don't need a group vote for someone who won't follow orders). Team speak should also be allowed to be played through tv speakers instead of requiring a headset.(Extremely annoying on psn when no one has a mic) U can do ranked and non-ranked. Non-ranked matches are under "Player Match". Ranked, obviously under "ranked" There are alot of flaws with the multiplayer. I agree with all of the above. They need a proper lobby system. They are trying something different which is cool but they have gone to far and made it into a quick play kind of game. Also, no you can't choose to host a ranked game and so you have to be lucky and hope that there are no other games to join so you can host. Player matches they can keep as they are. Autoaim and streamlined with alot of quickplay possibilities. Ranked they have some things to change. The experience(cash) needed for levels are either way to high or you get way to little for the competative game modes. I know you're not supposed to be highest level within 2 days of playing but it should still feel like you are doing some kind of advancement. They went the easy way and just make it annoyingly long between the levels so they didn't have to add as much levels and stuff for you character. In for example team deathmatch, there's absolutely no incentive to win. You get your own cash no matter what. Not that it's enough, by far. But it's ok if you loose. The winning team should get some kind of % of their totals added upon their own cash. That way it actually matters if you win or not. As it is now, the only way to really level up is doing loads of hangmans noose and that may be fun for the first 50 times(about 250k = level 5) but that shouldn't be needed. People should be able to feel like they are doing some progress if they are playing the other modes as well. The host should also be able to set the amount of teams in a game, move people around in teams if he wants to and also kick people without any kind of voting required. It works very well in all other games. Why change it just to be different? Better aiming when aiming(right now it's alot of luck involved imo) is needed as well as being able to crouch and move while you're shooting. Some kind of hip firing as well. (These things are not just me being sucky, I do very well in r6 with pistol and head shots so my aim shouldn't be that bad. might be lag though since we're playing on dedicated servers which may not be very close to you, i.e. me being in uk and servers in america = bad, rather than where the host is situated which i prefer by far) Alot of small things are annoying but there are also some major flaws with the mp which doesn't get reflected in the reviews. Edit:They also need to make it so you can invite your friends when you're in a ranked game. Edited May 4, 2008 by cold steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CukyDoh Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=339299 Poll for a server browser. Much needed, so go and add your feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtrentt Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 I dunno if you all know this but I just read it on another forum. You can select 'Party Mode' from the phone and invite your friends. Then, with everyone in there, select the phone and start a game. You and your friends will then be all in the same room. Works for ranked and player. I'm sorry if you already know this. Like I said, I just found out about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold steam Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 I dunno if you all know this but I just read it on another forum. You can select 'Party Mode' from the phone and invite your friends. Then, with everyone in there, select the phone and start a game. You and your friends will then be all in the same room. Works for ranked and player. I'm sorry if you already know this. Like I said, I just found out about it. I know this yes. BUT. If you want to host, you cannot. It's still the same mechanic where you have to be lucky to join a "good" game. You can also still not invite people into a game(even in pregame lobby) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subby89 Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 I dunno if you all know this but I just read it on another forum. You can select 'Party Mode' from the phone and invite your friends. Then, with everyone in there, select the phone and start a game. You and your friends will then be all in the same room. Works for ranked and player. I'm sorry if you already know this. Like I said, I just found out about it. Also, when using party mode to hook up with friends, u cannot change team. So.. for example. A team of 6 comes in and theres 3 teams of two. The game is very unbalanced and theres no way to resolve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxit Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Oh and stop making me f**king disconnect from one or more players. Thats another damn recommendation. Almost a week and still no info from rockstar. This is seriously pissing me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus001 Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Oh and stop making me f**king disconnect from one or more players. Thats another damn recommendation. Almost a week and still no info from rockstar. This is seriously pissing me off. What he said. This is a damn shame. I always get that annoying message. Then it takes me back to single player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuclan Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Biggest problem by far is the lobby (or lack thereof) They need a lobby that categorizes rooms by mode, skill level, and other options like auto aim, police on/off, etc. The way it's setup now, you just have to take whatever you get automatically put into, so it can be very hit or miss, and most of the times I try to start my own game, nobody joins the room, or maybe one person at best. You have to play through quite a few dud games or just flat out abort some busted games before you end up with a good one. Party mode is the lobby. It's easier to find other people certain times of the day and on certain game modes. It's just like other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychedelic-squid Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 The thing that irritates me most is that every time I begin multiplayer after the console have been switched off, it has been reseted ! it's really annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iakona666 Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Oh and stop making me f**king disconnect from one or more players. Thats another damn recommendation. Almost a week and still no info from rockstar. This is seriously pissing me off. This... Once that's fixed i'll like the multiplayer enough to want to play it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthmaster Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 (edited) Been playing multiplayer atleast once a day since it came out. But there are some odditys that grind my gears, so here they are: First of all, the police helicopter with 4 mini-guns on the side winglets, its a awsome weapon that cant be used for any purpose i can think of, at most you get 2-3 hits with it before your helicopter tilts to far in any direction. your better off just ramming them at high speed with your blades. And even if you do manage to hit someone with a minigun bullet you expect it to K.O them but it doesnt. Secondly. The vehicle repair glitch, happens when another player doesnt see your vehicle get damaged. So on your screen you see your back wheel caved in and on another players screen, he sees it fine with no damage, you get out then he gets in and its repaired.(can even stop a car fire) Three. 1 clip into a cars back tires set's it on fire WTF. and dont gimmie that crap "the fuel tank is there" it aint, no?, well heres proof if you can shoot through the back tires, rims , bumper ect, Then why cant you shoot through a car door? Four. the vote system Five. Choice of weather, i see heavy thunder storms in single player and choppy waves at sea. but when i select rain in multiplayer, its just not the same, you know what i mean? Six. You can't get in Vehicles at the same time Seven. Lifts + Outdoor lifts dont work Eight. You can latch onto people's vehicles as a player but for some reason you fall of straight away. Add these to your list mister subby89 Edited May 5, 2008 by stealthmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_xmechanic Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 i think its always fun, the auto- aim doesnt bother me, in auto aim its about who makes headshots, not just lock on... I dominate those idiots thinking just lock on and shoot, just with pistol headshots lol they just need a lobby mayn, the rest is fine.. some poeple just expect cs when its gta. Im just happy that when i play multiplayer its fluid and funn ass sh*t, They should just make the rankings work etc and the friend system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishrebal Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 They need to sort the damn lobby out. Followed by more control for hosts including an option to create a non-rank game or a ranked one, kicking players should be improved(We don't need a group vote for someone who won't follow orders). Team speak should also be allowed to be played through tv speakers instead of requiring a headset.(Extremely annoying on psn when no one has a mic) U can do ranked and non-ranked. Non-ranked matches are under "Player Match". Ranked, obviously under "ranked" There are alot of flaws with the multiplayer. I agree with all of the above. They need a proper lobby system. They are trying something different which is cool but they have gone to far and made it into a quick play kind of game. Also, no you can't choose to host a ranked game and so you have to be lucky and hope that there are no other games to join so you can host. Player matches they can keep as they are. Autoaim and streamlined with alot of quickplay possibilities. Ranked they have some things to change. The experience(cash) needed for levels are either way to high or you get way to little for the competative game modes. I know you're not supposed to be highest level within 2 days of playing but it should still feel like you are doing some kind of advancement. They went the easy way and just make it annoyingly long between the levels so they didn't have to add as much levels and stuff for you character. In for example team deathmatch, there's absolutely no incentive to win. You get your own cash no matter what. Not that it's enough, by far. But it's ok if you loose. The winning team should get some kind of % of their totals added upon their own cash. That way it actually matters if you win or not. As it is now, the only way to really level up is doing loads of hangmans noose and that may be fun for the first 50 times(about 250k = level 5) but that shouldn't be needed. People should be able to feel like they are doing some progress if they are playing the other modes as well. The host should also be able to set the amount of teams in a game, move people around in teams if he wants to and also kick people without any kind of voting required. It works very well in all other games. Why change it just to be different? Better aiming when aiming(right now it's alot of luck involved imo) is needed as well as being able to crouch and move while you're shooting. Some kind of hip firing as well. (These things are not just me being sucky, I do very well in r6 with pistol and head shots so my aim shouldn't be that bad. might be lag though since we're playing on dedicated servers which may not be very close to you, i.e. me being in uk and servers in america = bad, rather than where the host is situated which i prefer by far) Alot of small things are annoying but there are also some major flaws with the mp which doesn't get reflected in the reviews. Edit:They also need to make it so you can invite your friends when you're in a ranked game. That would be great if the ranking system would work in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalliano Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I don't have a headset, so I can't comment on that, though I did get kicked off a NOOSE server last night by a bunch of wankers because I was the only player without one. Either that or it was because I was coming out on top, mostly (auto-aim was off, btw). The lobby system does need work, how's about a server list like, I dunno, Quake IV? That way you could choose what game to join, or start your own more easily. The auto-aim debacle has already had about 50 threads which ultimately descended into flame wars, so I'm not going to say anything more on the subject after this: it can be turned on or off, so it's not a flaw IMO. The only way it becomes a flaw is when poeple start bitching and kicking players off servers because they want it on or off. THAT'S a flaw. That and lack of mouse/key support, but I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxpryor Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Oh and stop making me f**king disconnect from one or more players. Thats another damn recommendation. Almost a week and still no info from rockstar. This is seriously pissing me off. Agreed ! This is stupid... with all the hype surrounding the game AND its online potential you would think that you could at least see 1 whole game through to the end. When I first played GTA 4 online, it seemed ok... don't get me wrong, I instantly saw that it could be so much more but it was fun. Now I can't get a game at all, I can enter the game and am fine until half way through when I am suddenly the only player left in the room I hope this gets sorted out with some kind of update, but there's a part of me that thinks this ain't gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrillingFungus Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Wow, multiplayer annoys me. If no changed are made, I see GTA multiplayer not even lasting 2 months! wow!!! you are a noob. mp in gta is a f*cking dream come true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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