How the Hell did Rockstar f*ck Up?

[phil14]

I got the game on yesterday morning, and in unfortunate circumstances i have only played the game twice (just over an hour and a half) and i'm 12% complete and I must admit im very pleased!!!

 

I was a bit down on Thirsday and Friday after reading some topics on this forum talking about it being a big let down.......I dont know how people could day its a let down!

 

*I love the cars, they look fantastic!

*I love the City (still on first Island though)

*I love the charactors

*I love everything

 

Only thing is that the driving is hard at first but tou get used to it!

 

A quick question(s)

 

1)When does main New York open (agonquin)

2) How and where do i access Internet dating

 

Cheers Guys!

[libertycity_fiction]

about 35 missions in you unlock the 2nd city and trust me if you like the game now you will f*cking love it then the mission just get better and better one you reach Agonquin.

[redwolf206]

One thing that slightly disappointed me was the lack of a chainsaw... I miss it. But other than that little thing and a few others, I love the game and it definitely deserves the scores it's been getting.

[xer0er]

about 35 missions in you unlock the 2nd city and trust me if you like the game now you will f*cking love it then the mission just get better and better one you reach Agonquin.

It's 27 missions in, actually.

 

That doesn't include Brucie's, as he isn't required storyline missions.

[cntk]

it's a partial let down. they kept out a bunch of activities that made the last gtas fun, and although this one feels like a step forward in some ways, in others it's not. once you're done with all the missions you'll know what i mean.

[AnimaOnline]

GTA IV is fantastic.. Its hard to say a bad word about it..

 

Shame i can't say the same for multiplayer... Me and a group of other guys agree that multiplayer is a huge let down. They should have spent less time thinking up game types and more time making free play a lot more like singleplayer.

 

Personally I think the game modes other than free player and death match are ok to play but are either unfair, too short or completely random.

 

Either way its still a great game and i guess it is Rockstars first try at GTA Online.

[taz_111-man]

dont know how people could say its a let down!

 

*I love the cars, they look fantastic!

*I love the City (still on first Island though)

*I love the charactors

*I love everything

 

Only thing is that the driving is hard at first but to get used to it!

 

 

could not agree more this game is the best xbox360 game , gta and game ever made well done to r* for a job well done none of us on this forum could do better in a 1000000 years

[marvz]

it's a partial let down. they kept out a bunch of activities that made the last gtas fun, and although this one feels like a step forward in some ways, in others it's not. once you're done with all the missions you'll know what i mean.

the game is great but i aggree that after the missions, thers realy not much to do. still love it though do to the fact i can jump out heli's and fall to my death.

[taz_111-man]

it's a partial let down. they kept out a bunch of activities that made the last gtas fun, and although this one feels like a step forward in some ways, in others it's not. once you're done with all the missions you'll know what i mean.

the game is great but i aggree that after the missions, thers realy not much to do. still love it though do to the fact i can jump out heli's and fall to my death.

i wish r* would have put i replay missions option

[Capricornus]

The driving in GTA IV is the best out of all the GTA's in my honest opinion. I absolutely love the driving mechanics, and have done so since I first started drving in in the game. I was reading about some of the fags crying over the driving because they broke a nail and what not. They just suck at driving. I actually prefer this driving in GTA IV over the driving in the past GTA's. But that's just me.

[thaCURSEDpie]

it's a partial let down. they kept out a bunch of activities that made the last gtas fun, and although this one feels like a step forward in some ways, in others it's not. once you're done with all the missions you'll know what i mean.

Like what? I dont really care that all those SIMS stuff and swimming underwater are gone.

 

Yeah, guess it can be boring after finishing all the missions. But then there's multiplayer!

[DGK is good]

You unlock the next part of the city after Dimitri and his thugs burn down your cousins business and your safe house burns down.

 

You can access the Internet Dating after Roman tells you to go activate an E-mail account at a Internet Cafe.

Edited May 4, 2008 by DGK is good

[wafflemaster]

about 35 missions in you unlock the 2nd city and trust me if you like the game now you will f*cking love it then the mission just get better and better one you reach Agonquin.

Just reached Algonquin yesterday, and all I can say is WOW !! Seriously, I had been loving the game up until that point, and had been very impressed with Broker/Dukes/Bohan, but they kind of paled into insignificance once I reached the 'city'

 

It's just staggering !! I took a Heli-tour...it was awesome. Haven't even begun the story missions on that island yet, and it doesn't look like it's gonna be happening anytime soon either

 

This game is a masterpiece of technical freakin awesomeness !!!

[gibbs1189]

Thirsday? Seriously?

[Machinehead155]

 

it's a partial let down. they kept out a bunch of activities that made the last gtas fun, and although this one feels like a step forward in some ways, in others it's not. once you're done with all the missions you'll know what i mean.

Your point here is rather moot as that's the case with ALL gta's. Especially GTA III and VC. Even in SA, the only thing even REMOTELY interesting thing to do after the missions is finishing the takeover of Los Santos (turf wars). I didn't even take half of the territories and I got extremely bored with it.

 

Seriously, in ALL of the past GTA's what else is there to do (that's somewhat interesting) other than to f*ck around?

 

*Car cusomizations? Had fun with that maybe once or twice and never bothered with it again.

*The gym? Just plain lame and not fun.

*Taking over territories? Got boring very quickly without even half taken over. They should've included the other two cities. Not just Las Santos.

*Buying property? Seriously, I don't understand why so many people bitch about that. What else was there to do with property other than to save your game? What other safe houses do you need other than the ones GTA IV already gives you? Waste of disk space if you ask me.

*Tanks, parachutes and that stupid jet pack. I was a little dissapointed for about 5 minutes after first reading about their absense (minus the jet pack, I was glad from the very start of its removal). Then I understood the direction R* was taking with this game...and now I'm glad they were removed.

 

I could go on, but you get the point. There was very little to do after the missions in SA. And the stuff that was there, wasn't interesting or fun. I don't understand why some of you are just now complaining about this. It's been that way ever since GTA III. And what the hell ever happened to multiplayer?

Edited May 4, 2008 by Machinehead155

[DrAKeN3D]

GTA4 is awesome, not doubt about it.... but how much does Euphoria weights in the balance ? I think we forget that Euphoria is a big part of the succes and we should give credit to the people who created it... remove Euphoria from GTA4 and I believe the fun factor drops by 50% !!!!

 

Nice job R* and two thumbs up to Euphoria !!!

[Bboighst48]

this game lacks that fun factor san andreas or the other gta games had.. bottom line is that R* focused too much on realism and took out all the fun stuff from past gta's with their lame excuses.

 

hell i would have still liked planes even if u could get across the city too fast.

 

 

this game is a 8/10 imo. Story is the only good thing about it.

[cntk]

it's a partial let down. they kept out a bunch of activities that made the last gtas fun, and although this one feels like a step forward in some ways, in others it's not. once you're done with all the missions you'll know what i mean.

Your point here is rather moot as that's the case with ALL gta's. Especially GTA III and VC. Even in SA, the only thing even REMOTELY interesting thing to do after the missions is finishing the takeover of Los Santos (turf wars). I didn't even take half of the territories and I got extremely bored with it.

 

Seriously, in ALL of the past GTA's what else is there to do (that's somewhat interesting) other than to f*ck around?

 

*Car cusomizations? Had fun with that maybe once or twice and never bothered with it again.

*The gym? Just plain lame and not fun.

*Taking over territories? Got boring very quickly without even half taken over. They should've included the other two cities. Not just Las Santos.

*Buying property? Seriously, I don't understand why so many people bitch about that. What else was there to do with property other than to save your game? What other safe houses do you need other than the ones GTA IV already gives you? Waste of disk space if you ask me.

*Tanks, parachutes and that stupid jet pack. I was a little dissapointed for about 5 minutes after first reading about their absense (minus the jet pack, I was glad from the very start of its removal). Then I understood the direction R* was taking with this game...and now I'm glad they were removed.

 

I could go on, but you get the point. There was very little to do after the missions in SA. And the stuff that was there, wasn't interesting or fun. I don't understand why some of you are just now complaining about this. It's been that way ever since GTA III. And what the hell ever happened to multiplayer?

it's not a moot point at all, you pointed out a bunch of features they took out, which outlines exactly what i said - in some ways it's a step forward, in others it's not, hence a partial let down. if there's anything moot here it's your post which didn't add anything.

 

gambling, for one, was a fun activity. perhaps not for you, but i know many feel the same way. i would be happy with some street dice, at the very least. they kept the sh*tty pool, why not throw in some underground casino shiz, or even a fight club? they kept dating as an activity, but you can't rob houses anymore? they promoted vertical expansion for this game yet you can't scale most buildings and only a handful are interactive. the gang wars were more time consuming than fun, but nevertheless another activity that added replay value. 20 races? that's it? 20 cars to find and deliver, that's it? i don't really miss the property aspect but you had extra work to do for each business and well, there's some more value for ya.

 

i'm not going to argue what's fun/interesting and what's not, as that's obviously beside the point and subjective. one could say anything, apart from missions, would be a pointless and uninteresting activity. there's just a lot of potential in this gta that remains to be explored... hopes for dlc.

[ackery]

yeah if they ahd everything they had before and more it would OBVIOUSLY be better becasue how can it not be? but then it would have hundreds of loading screens, lag, woudl be on like 3 disks, and still wouldnt be out for another year or so?

 

but this one is definately better, but i agree wihtout MP free roam that is, that it lacks the fun free roam factor, but i think for a first the free roam online is good. just get some good friends on there and its great.

[The Invisible Lines]

I'm totally on board with the OP.

[cntk]

this one is definitely the best gta so far, especially as far as the campaign goes, it's just underwhelming in certain ways... but the multiplayer is a decent, fun addition. free mode with a couple of friends, race and cops n crooks are great. wish they would've kept the minigames and other sh*t in multiplayer free mode though.

[crobert0247]

The driving in GTA IV is the best out of all the GTA's in my honest opinion. I absolutely love the driving mechanics, and have done so since I first started drving in in the game. I was reading about some of the fags crying over the driving because they broke a nail and what not. They just suck at driving. I actually prefer this driving in GTA IV over the driving in the past GTA's. But that's just me.

I couldn't agree more. I wish more peeps would see it this way.

[KieranMurphy]

Yeah, San Andreas was great because once you got 100% you could spend all your time getting tattoos, spraying cars different colours, putting different tyres on your cars, changing your clothes, getting haircuts, repeatedly tapping the X button in the gym etc. That was like, awesome, and way more fun than the car chases and cop battles.

 

Do you know what I've done in GTAIII, Vice City and San Andreas after getting 100%? Had fun by creating havoc, killing people, blowing up cars and trucks, jacking and smashing up cars, flying around in helicopters, exploring the cities, finding good spots to go killing rampages, etc. And the same things are still in this game, so yay for that! There's loads of proper GTA fun to be had in this game.

 

Maybe I'm weird, but I find driving around and having the cops chase me and running over people a lot more fun than putting an afro on your character or putting stupid wheels on a car I'm just going to turn into a flaming wreck anyway.

[crobert0247]

Maybe I'm weird, but I find driving around and having the cops chase me and running over people a lot more fun than putting an afro on your character or putting stupid wheels on a car I'm just going to turn into a flaming wreck anyway.

Not weird at all. Thats the beauty of GTA IV and all of them. And with GTA IV's Liberty City you get to run around in the most detailed city to date.

[PurplePerson07]

My only problem with IV is the lack of melee weapons, the only melee weapons in the game are the knife and baseball bat, and objects that you can pick up.

 

R* could of at least included a few more melee weapons like, machete, chainsaw, or even a tazer.

 

I bet some of the DLC is going to be extra melee weapons.

[cntk]

 

Yeah, San Andreas was great because once you got 100% you could spend all your time getting tattoos, spraying cars different colours, putting different tyres on your cars, changing your clothes, getting haircuts, repeatedly tapping the X button in the gym etc.  That was like, awesome, and way more fun than the car chases and cop battles. 

 

Do you know what I've done in GTAIII, Vice City and San Andreas after getting 100%?  Had fun by creating havoc, killing people, blowing up cars and trucks, jacking and smashing up cars, flying around in helicopters, exploring the cities, finding good spots to go killing rampages, etc.  And the same things are still in this game, so yay for that!  There's loads of proper GTA fun to be had in this game.

 

Maybe I'm weird, but I find driving around and having the cops chase me and running over people a lot more fun than putting an afro on your character or putting stupid wheels on a car I'm just going to turn into a flaming wreck anyway.

 

you're not weird, but you only mentioned the crap dress-up aspects of san andreas. there were a bunch of fun activities(which i've already mentioned on the previous page) that could've been adapted to this game, but weren't. and that's where it's a bit of a let down. say what you will about san andreas, and i don't personally rate it as the greatest gta (besides this one) at all, but there was something for everyone there and MORE to do, over and over.

[(Yakuza)]

I got the game on yesterday morning, and in unfortunate circumstances i have only played the game twice (just over an hour and a half) and i'm 12% complete and I must admit im very pleased!!!

 

I was a bit down on Thirsday and Friday after reading some topics on this forum talking about it being a big let down.......I dont know how people could day its a let down!

 

*I love the cars, they look fantastic!

*I love the City (still on first Island though)

*I love the charactors

*I love everything

 

Only thing is that the driving is hard at first but tou get used to it!

 

A quick question(s)

 

1)When does main New York open (agonquin)

2) How and where do i access Internet dating

 

Cheers Guys!

Its basicallly like GTA 3 but wayy better. Hardly any mini games, gambling, and business/property.

[Machinehead155]

it's a partial let down. they kept out a bunch of activities that made the last gtas fun, and although this one feels like a step forward in some ways, in others it's not. once you're done with all the missions you'll know what i mean.

Your point here is rather moot as that's the case with ALL gta's. Especially GTA III and VC. Even in SA, the only thing even REMOTELY interesting thing to do after the missions is finishing the takeover of Los Santos (turf wars). I didn't even take half of the territories and I got extremely bored with it.

 

Seriously, in ALL of the past GTA's what else is there to do (that's somewhat interesting) other than to f*ck around?

 

*Car cusomizations? Had fun with that maybe once or twice and never bothered with it again.

*The gym? Just plain lame and not fun.

*Taking over territories? Got boring very quickly without even half taken over. They should've included the other two cities. Not just Las Santos.

*Buying property? Seriously, I don't understand why so many people bitch about that. What else was there to do with property other than to save your game? What other safe houses do you need other than the ones GTA IV already gives you? Waste of disk space if you ask me.

*Tanks, parachutes and that stupid jet pack. I was a little dissapointed for about 5 minutes after first reading about their absense (minus the jet pack, I was glad from the very start of its removal). Then I understood the direction R* was taking with this game...and now I'm glad they were removed.

 

I could go on, but you get the point. There was very little to do after the missions in SA. And the stuff that was there, wasn't interesting or fun. I don't understand why some of you are just now complaining about this. It's been that way ever since GTA III. And what the hell ever happened to multiplayer?

it's not a moot point at all, you pointed out a bunch of features they took out, which outlines exactly what i said - in some ways it's a step forward, in others it's not, hence a partial let down. if there's anything moot here it's your post which didn't add anything.

 

gambling, for one, was a fun activity. perhaps not for you, but i know many feel the same way. i would be happy with some street dice, at the very least. they kept the sh*tty pool, why not throw in some underground casino shiz, or even a fight club? they kept dating as an activity, but you can't rob houses anymore? they promoted vertical expansion for this game yet you can't scale most buildings and only a handful are interactive. the gang wars were more time consuming than fun, but nevertheless another activity that added replay value. 20 races? that's it? 20 cars to find and deliver, that's it? i don't really miss the property aspect but you had extra work to do for each business and well, there's some more value for ya.

 

i'm not going to argue what's fun/interesting and what's not, as that's obviously beside the point and subjective. one could say anything, apart from missions, would be a pointless and uninteresting activity. there's just a lot of potential in this gta that remains to be explored... hopes for dlc.

You're entitled to your opinion but I still feel your point is moot.

 

I guess my bottom line is this: Quality > Quantity any day of the week. I'm glad R* took out most of the pointless stuff. R* is obviously trying to go in a different direction with GTA and I'm SO glad for that. The franchise needs it.

 

Taking the exact same formula that worked in the past and just adding a bunch of useless stuff does not a great game make.

[nlitement]

 

Go tell to all the people in Brooklyn and Queens how they're "outside of New York".

 

"Hey, wanna go to New York? LOL [email protected] what I call Manhattin!"

Brooklyn resident: "What the f*ck?"

[Machinehead155]

Oh and let's not forget about how much man-power and time it took to make the game the way it already is. Adding anymore content than they already have would mean another 6 month delay AT THE LEAST. f*ck that. I just wanna play the damn game. Other stuff will come with DLC.