MobBG Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Vlad didn't call him a Serb he called him a Serf, as in Serfdom. I had subtitles on, and he called him a Serb. Besides, it's kind of hard to mistake "F" for "B." You misread. He does infact call him a SERF. It fits in with his theme of yokels and peasants also. EDIT: At some point in the story he or Roman actually mention being from Serbia. I can't exactly remember where it is said though. Yeah at the begin when Niko gets off the boat he first speaks to Roman in their language Roman said "your English is better than my Serbian". Right......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strajo D MaN Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 In serbia the name Niko and the last name Belic are very rare, it is certanlly used more in Croatia. And it`s spelled Belić not Belich(Belič)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoopyNucker- Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 when you first buy a gun from the gun store, Dimitri tells you to buy a gun. The owner says "You Russians are clearing me out!" and Niko reply's "I'm not Russian" Indeed. Same thing like Little Jacob in the car. Little Jacob : " You Russian guys... " Niko : " I'm not Russian. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourNeighborhoodKiller Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I find it extremely stupid that they made the protagonist of GTA IV, a Serbian. Since they were going for an Eastern European, then it would of made so much more sense to make the protagonist an Albanian. I mean seriously, there is thousands maybe millions of Albanians living in New York. What I also find very stupid is, there is no Albanian gang/mafia in the game. Only a couple of guys you kill in the beginning of the game and thats it. There is a very low population of Serbians living in New York, as of now. I'm not just saying this, because I'm Albanian. But instead, just stating my true opinion. But I guess, I can see what they were trying to do. Since New York has barely any Serbs, they decided to bring one in. And have you make your way to the top. With the help of some friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wightboy Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 why are we using spoiler tags for names of countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lagge92 Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 have u noticed they never say the name of the country, they allways say something like "the old country" thats because he's not from a real country. But that country is most likely based of a former jugoslavian countrt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukev Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I'm pretty certain that in the scene being mentioned so many times that Vlad called him a serf, which ties in with him calling Niko and other people peasents and such. He also told someone in another scene that he was not from Russia. I think Rockstar actually said something about not mentioning the exact birthplace of Niko didn't they? Obviously if they said he was from a country someone in that country would be offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oipolloi Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Heh, back in Victorian times and later the Cold War, you often got stories set in made-up countries "somewhere in eastern europe". In fact i have a trashy paperback from the 60's set in "Batania". Let's say Niko is from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadzooks Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Lol how is this not getting through to you people. NIKO SPEAKS SERBIAN NIKO'S DARTS HAVE THE SERBIAN FLAG ON THEM NIKO'S HAT HAS THE SERBIAN FLAG ON IT ROMAN SAYS HIS SERB IS WORSE THEN NIKOS ENGLISH HE HAS CLAIMED NOT TO BE RUSSIAN ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z3ALOT91 Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 (edited) weird when i play darts my darts have the scotland flag on them...at least i think they were. Edited May 7, 2008 by Z3ALOT91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlitement Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 (edited) when you first buy a gun from the gun store, Dimitri tells you to buy a gun. The owner says "You Russians are clearing me out!" and Niko reply's "I'm not Russian" Indeed. Same thing like Little Jacob in the car. Little Jacob : " You Russian guys... " Niko : " I'm not Russian. " He says "I ain't Russian" in the shop, not "I'm not". And Jesus Christ some of you people really are f*cking retards. Especially you Americans should stick your heads out of your asses and learn a couple of languages or something. If you can't tell Serbian from Russian then you really are one f*cking peasant. Not to brag or anything, but damn I can tell Korean from Japanese even though I don't speak either language. Unless you've lived in a cave your whole life, you'll be able to tell languages apart from others, and hell, if you're good enough, you'll be able to name most languages. Edited May 7, 2008 by nlitement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strajo D MaN Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Neighborkiller. U cant say: I find it extremely stupid that they made the protagonist of GTA IV, a Serbian... Thats so lame... If you havent mentioned that you`re a albanian i would assumed you were one! But i have nothing against you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strajo D MaN Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 "YourNeighborhoodKiller" ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerBlue Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 were u guys pleased with borat aswell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerbil_II Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Hmm... I'm fairly sure that during that scene Vlad calls him a Slav. Slav being short for Slavic. Slavic peoples are traditionally divided along geographical lines into West Slavic (including Sorbs, Czechs, Poles and Slovaks), East Slavic (including Belarusians, Russians, and Ukrainians), and South Slavic (including Bosniaks, Bulgarians, Croats, Macedonians, Montenegrins, Serbs and Slovenes). In that case. All these peoples that have been brought up could be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamshh Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 What I also find very stupid is, there is no Albanian gang/mafia in the game. I'm pretty sure there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbin Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 yo albanian picko klali smo vas ko prasice mamu vam jebem SRBIJA DO TOKIJA mamu vam jebem siptarsku i de ce bre vas siptare da stave ko krimose vi ste picke They put serb as main char. because we are tough not like albanians pussyies we butched them like pigs and they suck bunch of american dick to get saved but we killed at least 50 000 in 2 months by the way these are statistics 678 000 germans WW2 347 000 bosnians 278 000 croats 97 000 albanians 3237 americans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oanswat Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 (edited) made you look, didn't I? lol yep. You got me. Also, in my game, mikhail called niko a "yokel" when they met each other in roman's garage so maybe the dialogue is different for all of us. I've heard that the cutscenes were done a couple different ways so it wouldn't get monotonous. anyway, he's not russian. He's serbian. Edited May 7, 2008 by oanswat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoIndiaMike Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 i forgot what mission cutscene it was but Niko did say that he was not russian That is when he first visits the gun dealer. Gun Dealer: You people need to learn that I'm not a cow. Niko: Yeah... and I'm not Russian. Sounded pretty sarcastic to me. But Russian I guess could just count as the "ethnic term" (such as Latino) for all countries in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbin Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Kill with pride One day when you get wounded, and when you are left alone on battlefield , and when enemyes wifes children and dogs to rip your body apart Shoot a bullet in your head AND DIE LIKE A HERO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oanswat Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 when you first buy a gun from the gun store, Dimitri tells you to buy a gun. The owner says "You Russians are clearing me out!" and Niko reply's "I'm not Russian" Indeed. Same thing like Little Jacob in the car. Little Jacob : " You Russian guys... " Niko : " I'm not Russian. " He says "I ain't Russian" in the shop, not "I'm not". And Jesus Christ some of you people really are f*cking retards. Especially you Americans should stick your heads out of your asses and learn a couple of languages or something. If you can't tell Serbian from Russian then you really are one f*cking peasant. Not to brag or anything, but damn I can tell Korean from Japanese even though I don't speak either language. Unless you've lived in a cave your whole life, you'll be able to tell languages apart from others, and hell, if you're good enough, you'll be able to name most languages. Dude, I've met one russian in my whole life. I've never met an albanian or a serbian ever. I don't live in a cave. I can tell you the difference between Irish, japanese, russian, german, french, spanish, italian and others but give me a f*cking break if you think I'm going to be able to tell one eastern european language from another. I live in Oregon, I'm surounded by oregonians who speak crappy english. I don't know where you're from but you need to get your head out of your ass if you think that everyone should be able to destinguish between every dialect in every language on the planet. Why the hell would I ever need that skill? Am I going to do business with broke ass eastern european's more than once or twice in my life? NO! Probably not, so why the hell would I focus my energies on that? You probably wouldnt' be able to tell the difference between an elutian eskimo and a hawaiian or a samoan from speach so STFU! It all depends on what people speak around you. Who the f*ck calls people peasants anyway? A european douche with no borders, that's who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oanswat Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Kill with pride One day when you get wounded, and when you are left alone on battlefield , and when enemyes wifes children and dogs to rip your body apart Shoot a bullet in your head AND DIE LIKE A HERO Or maybe you could get therapy........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAfan47 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 (edited) He could be so many different things, in one cutscene Dimitri said kill that balkan piece of sh*t!!. Balkan refers to a huge reigion of Europe including Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Albania, and Greece. This means Dimtri is russian, because he wouldnt insult himself if he was from the Balkan peninsula. And since Niko fought in the Bosnian war Im gonna conclude he was either bosnian, croatian or serbian Edited May 8, 2008 by GTAfan47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbin Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 only thing that american people can notice \ its difrence bewteen bigmac and cheseburger for everithing else they are stupid and i personoally i beleve when you open american scull youl find wire that connects ears thats it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAfan47 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 only thing that american people can notice \ its difrence bewteen bigmac and cheseburger for everithing else they are stupid and i personoally i beleve when you open american scull youl find wire that connects ears thats it way to stereotype, fa**ot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srbin Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 and people like gtafan47 prove my theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock ochre Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 (edited) I dont think hes Russian or Serb, in one cutscene Dimitri said kill that balkan piece of sh*t!! now im not sure what balkan is but its not russian or serb Serbia is a Balkan nation it lies in the Balkan peninsula. Edited May 8, 2008 by sock ochre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAfan47 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 He could be so many different things, in one cutscene Dimitri said kill that balkan piece of sh*t!!. Balkan refers to a huge reigion of Europe including Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Albania, and Greece. This means Dimtri is russian, because he wouldnt insult himself if he was from the Balkan peninsula. And since Niko fought in the Bosnian war Im gonna conclude he was either bosnian, croatian or serbian Serbia is a Balkan nation it lies in the Balkan peninsula. yes, i stated that in the paragraph. srbin: im sorry, I didnt know anti-stereotyping was bad. I guess its not in whereever the hell you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinhead123 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 who cares if he is russian or not, its just a bloody game, this is how wars get started!!!!! and what the hell is all the words blanked out for, im not a smart lad i need to see all the words to make the sentence, if its about giving the story away then people who have not completed the game shouldn't come on here to search then should they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock ochre Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 He could be so many different things, in one cutscene Dimitri said kill that balkan piece of sh*t!!. Balkan refers to a huge reigion of Europe including Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Albania, and Greece. This means Dimtri is russian, because he wouldnt insult himself if he was from the Balkan peninsula. And since Niko fought in the Bosnian war Im gonna conclude he was either bosnian, croatian or serbian Serbia is a Balkan nation it lies in the Balkan peninsula. yes, i stated that in the paragraph. srbin: im sorry, I didnt know anti-stereotyping was bad. I guess its not in whereever the hell you are You edited your post when I was replying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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