unopescio Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Typhus, I think you are an easily bended individual, and if you were born into a different society he would have completely opposing views on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Typhus, I think you are an easily bended individual, and if you were born into a different society he would have completely opposing views on everything. Where did you get that idea from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSoldier Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Just another example of people getting overly offended at something stupid. Like "Ho Ho Ho" being banned in Australia.... Lol, wtf are you talking about? I guess it could be offensive to whores. Although, as they are nothing but common criminals it is foolish to mince your words about them. Who cares? What if the modern representation of Santa was that he went around saying "Mail room clerk, Mail room clerk, Mail room clerk?" Would it be banned, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaria Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I'm 100% Muslim and that didn't offend me Confirmation of the malaria. He married with a 9 years old girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkeremx Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I'm 100% Muslim and that didn't offend me Confirmation of the malaria. He married with a 9 years old girl. 9 years old girl is a girl not a kid, girl can sex after 9 yeras old, boys can sex after 12 years old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody510 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I'm 100% Muslim and that didn't offend me Confirmation of the malaria. He married with a 9 years old girl. 9 years old girl is a girl not a kid, girl can sex after 9 yeras old, boys can sex after 12 years old... Haha, According to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathdealer Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 man, people get offended easily. clearly, the drawer was just having a harmless poke at islam. I'm a christian and i don't really get offended easily by christian jokes. If the author of the joke means nothing by it then it's fine but if the author did it to be cruel then it will only hurt the author. if there is one thing i have learned in life its that hate only hurts the hater. 9 years old girl is a girl not a kid, girl can sex after 9 yeras old, boys can sex after 12 years old... ummm.....what? that's way too young to have sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I'm 100% Muslim and that didn't offend me Confirmation of the malaria. He married with a 9 years old girl. 9 years old girl is a girl not a kid, girl can sex after 9 yeras old, boys can sex after 12 years old... You don't have to justify him marrying a child. He was a human being wasn't he? Everyone makes mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-hawk Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 What did just happen here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technomm Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 (edited) My family is Muslim.But it didn't sting them even one bit.Sure the drawings perhaps caused them to feel sad but that's pretty much it. Oddly enough,the state-controlled news network went crazy all the way and suggested our nation to call the 'Danish' sweets, 'Muhammad-ish flower' instead pfff....Guess what?Nobody gave a sh*t and it's still known as that well-known 'Danish' sweets in every confectionery. Just for the record: Turk Muslims went on rampage on their own due to the drawings;I guess no governmental order was issued to spur on the Turkish to vent themselves off.I remember watching our new channel reporting on how Turks were mad over the 'Danish offence'. But the general people in Iran simply protested against the so-called' offensive caricatures' following the system's " come on let's show our anger blah" prompting propaganda(as usual). Even then,the demonstration wasn't as raging as those Turkish madness. No offense to the fellow Turks. Edited May 13, 2008 by technomm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkeremx Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Arabic Turkish, Ýndian, Persian, girls can sex after 9 years old, This true If you are not belive me you must come to eastern world, this east humans' raceal peculiarity.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D- Ice Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 (edited) @ xkeremx : WTF? What's all this Arabic-Turkish BS, and what are you trying to say? OK, ontopic. I believe the drawing should not have been drawn in the first place, as simply they are not only offensive to Muslims, but are in their very nature provocative and fuel hate towards muslims, or furthers the false stereotype of muslims as angry murderous censors and oppressors of freedom. It is in it's very nature wrong as rather than attempt to heal relations in this very sensitive times, it provokes a rift and extremism on BOTH sides - Muslims feeling more isolated and different from their countries and non-muslim westerners wanting to decrease respect for, and understanding for Islam by demanding rights to criticise the religion which I'm certain wont be allowed for any other religion. These cartoons have suceeded so much in creating such extremism that i find myself asking whether maybe the author's agenda is just that - to give more respect to the far-right nazis and the terrorist muslims - to radicalise. However, the response for them was truely appauling, and people seemed to have traded wisedom for pure radicalised anger and hatred. Instead of working to destroy their false stereotype of violent terrorists, muslims furthered it by their actions, especially their non-peacefull protests. And non-muslims westerners instead of working to destroy their stereotype amongst muslims as racist anti-Islam bigots, they also worked just right into it - as evident by those articles being republished and some of the bullsh*t on this topic. As for the boycott of the goods of that country - I think it is fair game. The drawing and their publishing was clearly a political action to cause offense and radicalisation, so I totally agree with the muslim counties' boycott - which is so much better than the violent protests. Also, it is purely disgusting to hear what one of the politicians said - 'either unquestionably embrace our culture or way of life or go back to your own countries'. Isn't Denmark equally those Muslim's country as they have the passports and nationality. That is a direct slander against their ethnic origin which should not have at all been tolerated. I'm also very disappointed that in such a generally intelligent website people of both sides can become so stupid and radicalised. EDIT: Also, I think it is important to note that humour is the biggest excuse for most hate-speach. I can't see how a poke at something 1/4 of humanity believes in and holds dear can be humour. Also, I find their intention suspicious as I never seen any poke at Christianity in any Newspaper, and there as much if not more Christians in the world and especially the West. Edited May 13, 2008 by D- Ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkeremx Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 @ xkeremx : WTF? What's all this Arabic-Turkish BS, and what are you trying to say? OK, ontopic. I believe the drawing should not have been drawn in the first place, as simply they are not only offensive to Muslims, but are in their very nature provocative and fuel hate towards muslims, or furthers the false stereotype of muslims as angry murderous censors and oppressors of freedom. It is in it's very nature wrong as rather than attempt to heal relations in this very sensitive times, it provokes a rift and extremism on BOTH sides - Muslims feeling more isolated and different from their countries and non-muslim westerners wanting to decrease respect for, and understanding for Islam by demanding rights to criticise the religion which I'm certain wont be allowed for any other religion. These cartoons have suceeded so much in creating such extremism that i find myself asking whether maybe the author's agenda is just that - to give more respect to the far-right nazis and the terrorist muslims - to radicalise. However, the response for them was truely appauling, and people seemed to have traded wisedom for pure radicalised anger and hatred. Instead of working to destroy their false stereotype of violent terrorists, muslims furthered it by their actions, especially their non-peacefull protests. And non-muslims westerners instead of working to destroy their stereotype amongst muslims as racist anti-Islam bigots, they also worked just right into it - as evident by those articles being republished and some of the bullsh*t on this topic. As for the boycott of the goods of that country - I think it is fair game. The drawing and their publishing was clearly a political action to cause offense and radicalisation, so I totally agree with the muslim counties' boycott - which is so much better than the violent protests. Also, it is purely disgusting to hear what one of the politicians said - 'either unquestionably embrace our culture or way of life or go back to your own countries'. Isn't Denmark equally those Muslim's country as they have the passports and nationality. That is a direct slander against their ethnic origin which should not have at all been tolerated. I'm also very disappointed that in such a generally intelligent website people of both sides can become so stupid and radicalised. EDIT: Also, I think it is important to note that humour is the biggest excuse for most hate-speach. I can't see how a poke at something 1/4 of humanity believes in and holds dear can be humour. Also, I find their intention suspicious as I never seen any poke at Christianity in any Newspaper, and there as much if not more Christians in the world and especially the West. I'm not a radicalist i'm not a Al Qaida or Other Terrorist's supporter, I'm a Muslim n i'm a Turk We're Turkish we're muslim but we do sin--dirnkin', crackin' e.t.c--- we want to aNybody dont mix my religion That's my wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D- Ice Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 @ xkeremx : WTF? What's all this Arabic-Turkish BS, and what are you trying to say? OK, ontopic. I believe the drawing should not have been drawn in the first place, as simply they are not only offensive to Muslims, but are in their very nature provocative and fuel hate towards muslims, or furthers the false stereotype of muslims as angry murderous censors and oppressors of freedom. It is in it's very nature wrong as rather than attempt to heal relations in this very sensitive times, it provokes a rift and extremism on BOTH sides - Muslims feeling more isolated and different from their countries and non-muslim westerners wanting to decrease respect for, and understanding for Islam by demanding rights to criticise the religion which I'm certain wont be allowed for any other religion. These cartoons have suceeded so much in creating such extremism that i find myself asking whether maybe the author's agenda is just that - to give more respect to the far-right nazis and the terrorist muslims - to radicalise. However, the response for them was truely appauling, and people seemed to have traded wisedom for pure radicalised anger and hatred. Instead of working to destroy their false stereotype of violent terrorists, muslims furthered it by their actions, especially their non-peacefull protests. And non-muslims westerners instead of working to destroy their stereotype amongst muslims as racist anti-Islam bigots, they also worked just right into it - as evident by those articles being republished and some of the bullsh*t on this topic. As for the boycott of the goods of that country - I think it is fair game. The drawing and their publishing was clearly a political action to cause offense and radicalisation, so I totally agree with the muslim counties' boycott - which is so much better than the violent protests. Also, it is purely disgusting to hear what one of the politicians said - 'either unquestionably embrace our culture or way of life or go back to your own countries'. Isn't Denmark equally those Muslim's country as they have the passports and nationality. That is a direct slander against their ethnic origin which should not have at all been tolerated. I'm also very disappointed that in such a generally intelligent website people of both sides can become so stupid and radicalised. EDIT: Also, I think it is important to note that humour is the biggest excuse for most hate-speach. I can't see how a poke at something 1/4 of humanity believes in and holds dear can be humour. Also, I find their intention suspicious as I never seen any poke at Christianity in any Newspaper, and there as much if not more Christians in the world and especially the West. I'm not a radicalist i'm not a Al Qaida or Other Terrorist's supporter, I'm a Muslim n i'm a Turk We're Turkish we're muslim but we do sin--dirnkin', crackin' e.t.c--- we want to aNybody dont mix my religion That's my wish Lol, OK, I just misunderstood, but I agree with you 100%. I didn't mean to imply you are a radical, sorry for that, but the views expressed by many others in this thread are radical somewhat IMO. I am Iraqi, living in NYC for almost a year now, and I'm muslim too - or was brought up to be muslim, but now call myself Atheist. And EVERYONE does sin, there's no one who never did anything wrong according to their own morality rules - let alone someone or other's rules, except maybe the prophets etc... if you believe in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_root Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 just wondering, do you denmark guys don't like muslims? or is this a BS of one person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technomm Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) According to the tradition,Muhammad has been quoted as saying something along this line: "A state(country) will never go strong with cruelty;nonetheless it will with paganism." In other words,the most pious Theologian(Islamic) state will collapse sooner or later,if the nation is under pressure and cruelty. The reverse of this statement is true as well.A pagan state will most probably survive if justice is being applied. BTW, I'm not a muslim;In fact I'm an ex-muslim. Regardless of accuracy of that hadith fact of the matter is, Muhammad was well aware of the consequences of his religion and also he knew Islam couldn't guarantee the success of a nation per se. Edited May 17, 2008 by technomm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Most religions were supposed to keep the people calmed down and in control. Somehow they f*cked up and still after 2000 years religious wars are everywhere. I feel sorry for Muslims that are victims of their own people and religion. Its f*cked up. And that "we kill you" attitude wont help anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan. Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I personally think that these guys were overreacting. I'm a Christian, but I'm also open-minded, and have an open view about different religiouns of the world. I've got nothing against Muslims, but I also think that what they are doing is simply a pure overreaction. It's also not going to help the stereotype of them being crazy terrorists. Then again, the drawings should never have been drawn, because they are making fun of someone's prophets. Although I'm not in the position to judge, I personally do not find them to be very bad, but still, if I were a Muslim, I'd be pretty upset about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-hawk Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I personally think that these guys were overreacting. I'm a Christian, but I'm also open-minded, and have an open view about different religiouns of the world. I've got nothing against Muslims, but I also think that what they are doing is simply a pure overreaction. It's also not going to help the stereotype of them being crazy terrorists. Then again, the drawings should never have been drawn, because they are making fun of someone's prophets. Although I'm not in the position to judge, I personally do not find them to be very bad, but still, if I were a Muslim, I'd be pretty upset about it. Erm, I'm Christian, and the number of "LOL JEEZUS" images I've seen pale the Mohammed drawings in comparison. Do Christians start sending people death threats for making fun of someone's religion? Everyone should just chill out. I'm seriously debating whether those people that are over-reacting over the Mohammed drawings are real muslims, as to my knowledge, the Quran teaches its followers to be peaceful, not bomb wielding maniacs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarz Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Everyone loves stereotyping. Terrorist ---> Islamic Extremism ---> Islam ---> Muslim ---> All muslims are terrorists! Mohammed Cartoon ---> Blasphemy ---> Cartoonist ---> Danish ---> All Danish hate Islam! Banning Danish products have f*ck all to do with the damned cartoon. It's a couple of guys who've drawn something. Just by chance they happen to be Danish. National background is irrelevant. Look at me - I'm male; aged 23; mixed race; agnostic; employed; graduate. Does that mean I can speak for all males? Everyone who's 23? Who's mixed race? Everyone who's agnostic, or employed, or a graduate. Of course not. So, everyone in this topic who's a muslim - stop speakin on behalf of ALL MUSLIMS. You're not all the same, and you don't speak on their behalf. I know plenty of Muslims who are very casual about their religion. I know plenty who are very strict about their religion. We are all individuals. Rant over. --- AMF --- -= A joke is a very serious thing - Winston Churchill =- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg1990 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) this is all bullsh*t, were allowed to have sex after 9, and were allowed to jack off and were allowed to all the same things any people could do, i donno where you guys get the idea that we can't have sex, wow how do we bring children then, and 35% of arabs are christian, 12 % of arabs are jewish, about 60% of the people in my country, have smoked weed or hash before Jordan pic 1: http://sha3teely.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/amman3.jpg Jordan pic 2: http://www.jaa.nextgear.nl/cms/Image/amman.jpg Jordan 3: http://www.atlastours.net/jordan/amman_panorama.jpg Our countries are no dofferent than usa or any other countries in the world, europe just likes making us look bad, thats it edit: im not a relegious guy and i havent prayed in about 12 yers, last time i remember i went to a mosque was when i was a little kid edit: heres how most arabs look, not like the west and europe draw us pic1: http://photos22.flickr.com/31461061_99fba0cab6.jpg pic 2 : http://www.questscope.org/assets/camp1.gif pic 3: http://www.globalvoicesprogram.org/site/pi...me_01_large.jpg Edited May 17, 2008 by dawg1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlitement Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 this is all bullsh*t, were allowed to have sex after 9, and were allowed to jack off and were allowed to all the same things any people could do, i donno where you guys get the idea that we can't have sex, wow how do we bring children then, and 35% of arabs are christian, 12 % of arabs are jewish, about 60% of the people in my country, have smoked weed or hash before Jordan pic 1: http://sha3teely.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/amman3.jpg Jordan pic 2: http://www.jaa.nextgear.nl/cms/Image/amman.jpg Jordan 3: http://www.atlastours.net/jordan/amman_panorama.jpg Our countries are no dofferent than usa or any other countries in the world, europe just likes making us look bad, thats it edit: im not a relegious guy and i havent prayed in about 12 yers, last time i remember i went to a mosque was when i was a little kid edit: heres how most arabs look, not like the west and europe make us look pic1: http://www.globalvoicesprogram.org/site/pi...me_01_large.jpg pic 2 : http://photos22.flickr.com/31461061_99fba0cab6.jpg pic 3: http://www.globalvoicesprogram.org/site/pi...me_01_large.jpg Dude, you're from Jordan, probably the most socially progressive country in the middle east dare I say, after Israel. Your king even played a role in Star Trek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg1990 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) this is all bullsh*t, were allowed to have sex after 9, and were allowed to jack off and were allowed to all the same things any people could do, i donno where you guys get the idea that we can't have sex, wow how do we bring children then, and 35% of arabs are christian, 12 % of arabs are jewish, about 60% of the people in my country, have smoked weed or hash before Jordan pic 1: http://sha3teely.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/amman3.jpg Jordan pic 2: http://www.jaa.nextgear.nl/cms/Image/amman.jpg Jordan 3: http://www.atlastours.net/jordan/amman_panorama.jpg Our countries are no dofferent than usa or any other countries in the world, europe just likes making us look bad, thats it edit: im not a relegious guy and i havent prayed in about 12 yers, last time i remember i went to a mosque was when i was a little kid edit: heres how most arabs look, not like the west and europe make us look pic1: http://www.globalvoicesprogram.org/site/pi...me_01_large.jpg pic 2 : http://photos22.flickr.com/31461061_99fba0cab6.jpg pic 3: http://www.globalvoicesprogram.org/site/pi...me_01_large.jpg Dude, you're from Jordan, probably the most socially progressive country in the middle east dare I say, after Israel. Your king even played a role in Star Trek! what about the United Arab Emirates, those are pictures of UAE pic 1: http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/pho...48/dubai.jpgpic 2: http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/colu..._01_598x533.jpg pic 3: http://www.eikongraphia.com/images/DubaiTo...rightTVSA2S.jpg pic4: http://www.bestwaytoinvest.com/UserFiles/I..._Zayed_Road.jpg What about Bahrain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Deira_o...2007_Pict_1.jpg Edit: jordan is one of the least progressive countries in the middle east, thats a fact Edited May 17, 2008 by dawg1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlitement Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) WHOA LOOK AT CHINA, based on the awesome skylines and skyscrapers, their people must be living so well! But compare that to my country, Finland. We barely have any oil, skyscrapers, or anything.. which means that we live.. oh wait, we're one of the best faring countries in the world. Architecture is barely an indicator of welfare. You're doing fine, we know. By the way, Jordan is more progressive than Egypt, Iraq, Turkey, Yemen, Sudan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and whatnot. Are you saying that it's a bad thing? Edited May 17, 2008 by nlitement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg1990 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) WHOA LOOK AT CHINA, based on the awesome skylines and skyscrapers, their people must be living so well! But compare that to my country, Finland. We barely have any oil, skyscrapers, or anything.. which means that we live.. oh wait, we're one of the best faring countries in the world. Architecture is barely an indicator of welfare. You're doing fine, we know. We have alot of good people, but we also have alot of crimes, 1 murder occurs in my country: Jordan every 40 minutes so yeh Our country is more progressive than iraq , yemen, sudan maybe but not more than egypt, turkey. afghanstan isnt even in the middle east lol Edited May 17, 2008 by dawg1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshield Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 WHOA LOOK AT CHINA, based on the awesome skylines and skyscrapers, their people must be living so well! But compare that to my country, Finland. We barely have any oil, skyscrapers, or anything.. which means that we live.. oh wait, we're one of the best faring countries in the world. Architecture is barely an indicator of welfare. You're doing fine, we know. Off topic post: Uh, yeah it is. You've never heard of guys like Aalto, the Saarinens, Sonck? Finland is world-renowned for their Architecture in the post-WWII era up to today, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. A nation's progression of Architecture can be, by some people's perspective, directly linked to the welfare of a nation. It reflects not only economy, but a progression of culture, ecology (a developing relationship with the environment through adaption), and a strengthening of the infrastructure as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technomm Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) WHOA LOOK AT CHINA, based on the awesome skylines and skyscrapers, their people must be living so well! But compare that to my country, Finland. We barely have any oil, skyscrapers, or anything.. which means that we live.. oh wait, we're one of the best faring countries in the world. Architecture is barely an indicator of welfare. You're doing fine, we know. Our country is more progressive than iraq , yemen, sudan maybe but not more than egypt, turkey. And not more than Iran I suppose. http://images.google.com/images?q=%D8%A8%D...8&oe=UTF-8&um=1 Iranian girls: http://images.google.com/images?q=%D8%AF%D...m=1&sa=N&tab=wi And bear in mind that Iran is under the rule of some bloody far-right shiite muslims.So even one girl must be bold enough to appear without a scarf in public. But the way,I challenge you to name a world-wide famous musician born in Jordan;hell even from any Arab country for that matter. DJ Alligator,Deep Dish,One member of the popular Rock group Queen...to name a few.There are more Iranian musicians than these,of course.But I can't recall them atm. I'm in no way a nationalist or something,just saying that if anything,it's Iran with the fastest social progress. Edited May 17, 2008 by technomm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlitement Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 WHOA LOOK AT CHINA, based on the awesome skylines and skyscrapers, their people must be living so well! But compare that to my country, Finland. We barely have any oil, skyscrapers, or anything.. which means that we live.. oh wait, we're one of the best faring countries in the world. Architecture is barely an indicator of welfare. You're doing fine, we know. Off topic post: Uh, yeah it is. You've never heard of guys like Aalto, the Saarinens, Sonck? Finland is world-renowned for their Architecture in the post-WWII era up to today, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. A nation's progression of Architecture can be, by some people's perspective, directly linked to the welfare of a nation. It reflects not only economy, but a progression of culture, ecology (a developing relationship with the environment through adaption), and a strengthening of the infrastructure as a whole. I know I was talking about ultra modern skyscraper architecture. If you walk around Finland, it feels like Sweden (Turku, where I'm from, Pori, etc.) or St. Petersburg (Helsinki) or just plain Finland on the countryside. We don't have high rise buildings and wealth like the UAE, Australia, or the US have. It's rather bland, mostly, unless you're in downtown. Those are architects you listed. I was talking about the architecture in general. Alvar Aalto designed less than 20 Finnish buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg1990 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) WHOA LOOK AT CHINA, based on the awesome skylines and skyscrapers, their people must be living so well! But compare that to my country, Finland. We barely have any oil, skyscrapers, or anything.. which means that we live.. oh wait, we're one of the best faring countries in the world. Architecture is barely an indicator of welfare. You're doing fine, we know. Our country is more progressive than iraq , yemen, sudan maybe but not more than egypt, turkey. And not more than Iran I suppose. http://images.google.com/images?q=%D8%A8%D...8&oe=UTF-8&um=1 Iranian girls: http://images.google.com/images?q=%D8%AF%D...m=1&sa=N&tab=wi And bear in mind that Iran is under the rule of some bloody far-right shiite muslims.So even one girl must be bold enough to appear without a scarf in public. But the way,I challenge you to name a world-wide famous musician born in Jordan;hell even from any Arab country for that matter. DJ Alligator,Deep Dish,One member of the popular Rock group Queen...to name a few.There are more Iranian musicians than these,of course.But I can't recall them atm. I'm in no way a nationalist or something,just saying that if anything,it's Iran with the fastest social progress. Hey man , you need glasses, i didn't say Iran, you might wanna re read my post, Jordanian girls: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/142249999_b58b116bcd.jpg 2: http://www.360east.com/wp-content/girls-on-wakalat.jpg plus I never heard of any of those artists you named i know famous artists world wide that are arabic but thery suck, i suppose everyone who listens to rap has heard of DJ Khaled and DJ Khalil edit: oh yeh show me pictures of your country iran, lemme see the buildings there (if you have any) Edited May 17, 2008 by dawg1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg1990 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 i looked up iran and this is what i find: http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=ira...F-8&sa=N&tab=wi lmao, people killing themselves, and executions no skyscrapers, no buildings no nothings, so if i were you i would stop arguing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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