GtaFreak_blingbling Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) This guy on gametrailers has made an analysis of the UK tv spot. here you can watch it GTA IV UK TV Spot Analysis -Things mentioned are how animations get crappier when further away and attention to detail in the animation if Niko is close to them. -Cars turning black before exploding (with one frame inbetween which will never be noticed when playing anways) -Flames can not be seen trough windows (widshields) of cars -etc. I liked this Analysis and I bet you will too Edited April 20, 2008 by GtaFreak_blingbling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigaNoob Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Cool, sat a couple of things straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chugen Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabalous Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 The link is not working ...can someone check it out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragnet Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtaFreak_blingbling Posted April 20, 2008 Author Share Posted April 20, 2008 The link is not working ...can someone check it out ? trust me dude it works http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/205471.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabalous Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 The link is not working ...can someone check it out ? trust me dude it works http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/205471.html It is not working for me . anyway , thanks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oXII Mikey IIXo Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 i don't really care about those minute technical issues. when the game is in full motion it is going to be badass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xunholyknightx Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) wow the guy that did this analysis for this trailer is a complete moron. all of you should not listen to this guys opinion because its just nonsense. first of all there was nothing wrong with that guys legs in the background. another ped walks next to him and in front of your view and it just looks wierd because of this angle. then he tries to point out that the lookout that jeremy st ives looked out is the same one, i hope you werent fooled by him. if you notice in the st.ives trailer, in the background of that lookout, theres trees and grass obvouisly its a park but the one he tries to point out saying its the same one, in its background theres no trees, theres buildings and its on a pier. i hate people that try to rain on others parade. this game is going to be almost flawless and no one should bring it down and try to ruin all of our hopes because this a guy is a negative nancy. Edited April 20, 2008 by xunholyknightx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragnet Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 wow the guy that did this analysis for this trailer is a complete moron. all of you should not listen to this guys opinion because its just nonsense. first of all there was nothing wrong with that guys legs in the background. another ped walks next to him and in front of your view and it just looks wierd because of this angle. then we tries to point out that lookout that jeremy st ives looked and tries to get people to believe its the same one, i hope you werent fooled by him. if you notice in st.ives trailer, in the background of that lookout, theres trees and grass obvouisly its a park but the one he tries to point out saying its the same one in its backgrounf theres no trees, theres building and its on a pier. i hate people that try to rain on others parade. this game is going to be almost flawless and no one should bring it down and try to ruin all of our hopes because this a guy is a negative nancy. The animations ARE worse, I'm not annoyed, just pointing it out. They are jerky. I'm not saying it's the same woman, just the same character model, which it is. Jesus, it's just a little humor. Read what I wrote in the description, I'm pumped for this game and this stuff does not bother me, I'm just pointing it out, and I'd appreciate that you didn't call me a moron in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak-4seven Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Even a TV spot has an analysis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xunholyknightx Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 wow the guy that did this analysis for this trailer is a complete moron. all of you should not listen to this guys opinion because its just nonsense. first of all there was nothing wrong with that guys legs in the background. another ped walks next to him and in front of your view and it just looks wierd because of this angle. then we tries to point out that lookout that jeremy st ives looked and tries to get people to believe its the same one, i hope you werent fooled by him. if you notice in st.ives trailer, in the background of that lookout, theres trees and grass obvouisly its a park but the one he tries to point out saying its the same one in its backgrounf theres no trees, theres building and its on a pier. i hate people that try to rain on others parade. this game is going to be almost flawless and no one should bring it down and try to ruin all of our hopes because this a guy is a negative nancy. The animations ARE worse, I'm not annoyed, just pointing it out. They are jerky. I'm not saying it's the same woman, just the same character model, which it is. Jesus, it's just a little humor. Read what I wrote in the description, I'm pumped for this game and this stuff does not bother me, I'm just pointing it out, and I'd appreciate that you didn't call me a moron in the future. there was nothing wrong with the animation. you shouldnt be trying to tell people stuff about the game that isnt true. you make comparisons that are lacking in proof. ok i wont call you a moron kuz that would make me a low person, but i will say you should look over the stuff before you post it. obviously u missed the background that shows that is different in the st.ives trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerbee103 Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 That split second of the car explosion...you won't even notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trund Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 wow the guy that did this analysis for this trailer is a complete moron. all of you should not listen to this guys opinion because its just nonsense. first of all there was nothing wrong with that guys legs in the background. another ped walks next to him and in front of your view and it just looks wierd because of this angle. then we tries to point out that lookout that jeremy st ives looked and tries to get people to believe its the same one, i hope you werent fooled by him. if you notice in st.ives trailer, in the background of that lookout, theres trees and grass obvouisly its a park but the one he tries to point out saying its the same one in its backgrounf theres no trees, theres building and its on a pier. i hate people that try to rain on others parade. this game is going to be almost flawless and no one should bring it down and try to ruin all of our hopes because this a guy is a negative nancy. The animations ARE worse, I'm not annoyed, just pointing it out. They are jerky. I'm not saying it's the same woman, just the same character model, which it is. Jesus, it's just a little humor. Read what I wrote in the description, I'm pumped for this game and this stuff does not bother me, I'm just pointing it out, and I'd appreciate that you didn't call me a moron in the future. there was nothing wrong with the animation. you shouldnt be trying to tell people stuff about the game that isnt true. you make comparisons that are lacking in proof. ok i wont call you a moron kuz that would make me a low person, but i will say you should look over the stuff before you post it. obviously u missed the background that shows that is different in the st.ives trailer. Yes the animations in distance ARE WORSE. If you don't believe it, watch the LCPD Recruitment Video on the official website, in the end you will how sloppy NPC animation in the distance is. The only thing that bothers me really is that the cars still just turning black when they explode, I mean they worked 3 1/2 years on it, they could of done that better for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragnet Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 wow the guy that did this analysis for this trailer is a complete moron. all of you should not listen to this guys opinion because its just nonsense. first of all there was nothing wrong with that guys legs in the background. another ped walks next to him and in front of your view and it just looks wierd because of this angle. then we tries to point out that lookout that jeremy st ives looked and tries to get people to believe its the same one, i hope you werent fooled by him. if you notice in st.ives trailer, in the background of that lookout, theres trees and grass obvouisly its a park but the one he tries to point out saying its the same one in its backgrounf theres no trees, theres building and its on a pier. i hate people that try to rain on others parade. this game is going to be almost flawless and no one should bring it down and try to ruin all of our hopes because this a guy is a negative nancy. The animations ARE worse, I'm not annoyed, just pointing it out. They are jerky. I'm not saying it's the same woman, just the same character model, which it is. Jesus, it's just a little humor. Read what I wrote in the description, I'm pumped for this game and this stuff does not bother me, I'm just pointing it out, and I'd appreciate that you didn't call me a moron in the future. there was nothing wrong with the animation. you shouldnt be trying to tell people stuff about the game that isnt true. you make comparisons that are lacking in proof. ok i wont call you a moron kuz that would make me a low person, but i will say you should look over the stuff before you post it. obviously u missed the background that shows that is different in the st.ives trailer. How is it not true? It's clearly there! You also peds doing it in the LCPD recruitment video, right at the end. I have proof man, get over the fact that the game has flaws! You won't notice it anyway with all the stuff going on in the environment so quit crying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xunholyknightx Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 wow the guy that did this analysis for this trailer is a complete moron. all of you should not listen to this guys opinion because its just nonsense. first of all there was nothing wrong with that guys legs in the background. another ped walks next to him and in front of your view and it just looks wierd because of this angle. then we tries to point out that lookout that jeremy st ives looked and tries to get people to believe its the same one, i hope you werent fooled by him. if you notice in st.ives trailer, in the background of that lookout, theres trees and grass obvouisly its a park but the one he tries to point out saying its the same one in its backgrounf theres no trees, theres building and its on a pier. i hate people that try to rain on others parade. this game is going to be almost flawless and no one should bring it down and try to ruin all of our hopes because this a guy is a negative nancy. The animations ARE worse, I'm not annoyed, just pointing it out. They are jerky. I'm not saying it's the same woman, just the same character model, which it is. Jesus, it's just a little humor. Read what I wrote in the description, I'm pumped for this game and this stuff does not bother me, I'm just pointing it out, and I'd appreciate that you didn't call me a moron in the future. there was nothing wrong with the animation. you shouldnt be trying to tell people stuff about the game that isnt true. you make comparisons that are lacking in proof. ok i wont call you a moron kuz that would make me a low person, but i will say you should look over the stuff before you post it. obviously u missed the background that shows that is different in the st.ives trailer. Yes the animations in distance ARE WORSE. If you don't believe it, watch the LCPD Recruitment Video on the official website, in the end you will how sloppy NPC animation in the distance is. The only thing that bothers me really is that the cars still just turning black when they explode, I mean they worked 3 1/2 years on it, they could of done that better for sure. ITS NOT THE ANIMATION ITS THE DRAW DISTANCE. maybe you should look around in these forums and look up more info on this game and educate yourself, then you would know its not the animations its the draw distance. ill go back for you and find the link to show you which game site played the game and said the draw distance of about 50-100 feet away you cant see anything. the animations are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trund Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 wow the guy that did this analysis for this trailer is a complete moron. all of you should not listen to this guys opinion because its just nonsense. first of all there was nothing wrong with that guys legs in the background. another ped walks next to him and in front of your view and it just looks wierd because of this angle. then we tries to point out that lookout that jeremy st ives looked and tries to get people to believe its the same one, i hope you werent fooled by him. if you notice in st.ives trailer, in the background of that lookout, theres trees and grass obvouisly its a park but the one he tries to point out saying its the same one in its backgrounf theres no trees, theres building and its on a pier. i hate people that try to rain on others parade. this game is going to be almost flawless and no one should bring it down and try to ruin all of our hopes because this a guy is a negative nancy. The animations ARE worse, I'm not annoyed, just pointing it out. They are jerky. I'm not saying it's the same woman, just the same character model, which it is. Jesus, it's just a little humor. Read what I wrote in the description, I'm pumped for this game and this stuff does not bother me, I'm just pointing it out, and I'd appreciate that you didn't call me a moron in the future. there was nothing wrong with the animation. you shouldnt be trying to tell people stuff about the game that isnt true. you make comparisons that are lacking in proof. ok i wont call you a moron kuz that would make me a low person, but i will say you should look over the stuff before you post it. obviously u missed the background that shows that is different in the st.ives trailer. Yes the animations in distance ARE WORSE. If you don't believe it, watch the LCPD Recruitment Video on the official website, in the end you will how sloppy NPC animation in the distance is. The only thing that bothers me really is that the cars still just turning black when they explode, I mean they worked 3 1/2 years on it, they could of done that better for sure. ITS NOT THE ANIMATION ITS THE DRAW DISTANCE. maybe you should look around in these forums and look up more info on this game and educate yourself, then you would know its not the animations its the draw distance. ill go back for you and find the link to show you which game site played the game and said the draw distance of about 50-100 feet away you cant see anything. the animations are fine. Are you really THAT ignorant??? What does draw distance have to do with animations? The animations from NPC's in far distance ARE not as detailed, now live with that and stop saying that it is not like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xunholyknightx Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 lol you cant join these forums and talk about how good this game is because people try to bring it down. "oh yea its definitly the animation" LMFAO! its funny because not one game site and magazine that REVIEWED THE GAME said anything bad about peds glitching or anything of that sort. you can look in all the trailers, lcpd, whichever one and because of the DRAW DISTANCE WHICH WAS MENTIONED, it will look wierd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragnet Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 wow the guy that did this analysis for this trailer is a complete moron. all of you should not listen to this guys opinion because its just nonsense. first of all there was nothing wrong with that guys legs in the background. another ped walks next to him and in front of your view and it just looks wierd because of this angle. then we tries to point out that lookout that jeremy st ives looked and tries to get people to believe its the same one, i hope you werent fooled by him. if you notice in st.ives trailer, in the background of that lookout, theres trees and grass obvouisly its a park but the one he tries to point out saying its the same one in its backgrounf theres no trees, theres building and its on a pier. i hate people that try to rain on others parade. this game is going to be almost flawless and no one should bring it down and try to ruin all of our hopes because this a guy is a negative nancy. The animations ARE worse, I'm not annoyed, just pointing it out. They are jerky. I'm not saying it's the same woman, just the same character model, which it is. Jesus, it's just a little humor. Read what I wrote in the description, I'm pumped for this game and this stuff does not bother me, I'm just pointing it out, and I'd appreciate that you didn't call me a moron in the future. there was nothing wrong with the animation. you shouldnt be trying to tell people stuff about the game that isnt true. you make comparisons that are lacking in proof. ok i wont call you a moron kuz that would make me a low person, but i will say you should look over the stuff before you post it. obviously u missed the background that shows that is different in the st.ives trailer. Yes the animations in distance ARE WORSE. If you don't believe it, watch the LCPD Recruitment Video on the official website, in the end you will how sloppy NPC animation in the distance is. The only thing that bothers me really is that the cars still just turning black when they explode, I mean they worked 3 1/2 years on it, they could of done that better for sure. ITS NOT THE ANIMATION ITS THE DRAW DISTANCE. maybe you should look around in these forums and look up more info on this game and educate yourself, then you would know its not the animations its the draw distance. ill go back for you and find the link to show you which game site played the game and said the draw distance of about 50-100 feet away you cant see anything. the animations are fine. I know more about it than you do, it's called Level of Detail, where the quality of textures, AI and animation get lower the further the object is from the player. I know exactly what is wrong with it, in my opinion the LOD begins to drop too early from where the player is. Yes, the animation is fine, I'm just saying that at say, 50ft the animation gets too jerky too early. Chill out man, you seem to think I've got it in for the game, I HAVEN'T! 90% of what I've written is positive and informative for gods sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortifiedPenguin09 Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Stop arguing, for f*cks sake! We won't notice the flaws in the game because we don't have bloody eyes of steel. Where you guys notice every bloody thing. I couldn't care less if GTA has flaws because it's GTA IV, for christ's sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragnet Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Stop arguing, for f*cks sake! We won't notice the flaws in the game because we don't have bloody eyes of steel. Where you guys notice every bloody thing. I couldn't care less if GTA has flaws because it's GTA IV, for christ's sake! Well said...sorry, I'm just trying to defend something I put a lot of effort into, it's not nice having someone rip into it like that. 9 DAYS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesm Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Good anyalsis, though not my fav. There was one from game trailers tv I really liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxit Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Who honestly gives a f**k if the car turns black 1 freakin' frame before it blows. For gods sakes who the hell will notice. The guy isn't saying the games is gonna be crap he's just pointing out a few details. Gta is always gonna have glitchs and bugs no matter how long it takes to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragnet Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Good anyalsis, though not my fav. There was one from game trailers tv I really liked. Fair enough, what could of made it better? So I can make the vids better in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChEwY213 Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Wow those animations becoming more crappier when ur far is just like The Godfather On the ps2....i really hope it doesnt look as sh*tty as it looks on the vid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragnet Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Wow those animations becoming more crappier when ur far is just like The Godfather On the ps2....i really hope it doesnt look as sh*tty as it looks on the vid. You won't notice them in game and they're probably fixed anyway by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta4man Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 You might be right about the animations but I can't see anything About the car turning black, when you're playing GTA IV you are not going to be pausing the car exploding frame by frame are you????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krumbz Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 wow the guy that did this analysis for this trailer is a complete moron. all of you should not listen to this guys opinion because its just nonsense. first of all there was nothing wrong with that guys legs in the background. another ped walks next to him and in front of your view and it just looks wierd because of this angle. then we tries to point out that lookout that jeremy st ives looked and tries to get people to believe its the same one, i hope you werent fooled by him. if you notice in st.ives trailer, in the background of that lookout, theres trees and grass obvouisly its a park but the one he tries to point out saying its the same one in its backgrounf theres no trees, theres building and its on a pier. i hate people that try to rain on others parade. this game is going to be almost flawless and no one should bring it down and try to ruin all of our hopes because this a guy is a negative nancy. The animations ARE worse, I'm not annoyed, just pointing it out. They are jerky. I'm not saying it's the same woman, just the same character model, which it is. Jesus, it's just a little humor. Read what I wrote in the description, I'm pumped for this game and this stuff does not bother me, I'm just pointing it out, and I'd appreciate that you didn't call me a moron in the future. It's cool that you "analyzed" this trailer... as I'm sure many people will flock to watch it... as ANY info is still info on GTA IV. But yeah I've got to say that... mentioning things like "background characters animations" and then comparing them to foreground characters animations is just silly. If I'm standing 100 blocks away from you and wave my middle finger at you and say "Hey man!"... you're not going to know that I'm waving my middle finger at you. Seriously... I can't see how you can nitpick a game that DOES so much... on so many fronts. It's cool to have your opinion... I respect that too. But name ONE game that has tried to do what GTA IV has and has succeeded? Actually name ONE game that has attempted it? Name one game where the background characters look JUST 100% as good as the foreground characters. Name just one game. Just ONE. What I'm saying is that you've just pointed out the obvious. By obvious I mean that EVERYBODY knows that the further away an item is from you the less clear or defined it will be. I just think that you should do the same type of trailer analysis but instead of a negative spin... try a positive one instead. And this analysis WAS a negative one... besides the "nice lighting" comment - everything else you said was some form of criticism. You need to do a do over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargr Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 This shouldn't be official news, its just some guy giving out his opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitZoor Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 The LoD (explained on the first page) is really low, lower then most of the games getting released at this time. I don't blame R* for this though. It's like choosing to have 5 really detailed characters on the screen or having 30 less detailed characters on screen. To make it feel like NYC they have to choose the later. Also take this into consideration, when they're making Trailers and commercials they'll want to have a really good framerate, therefore they are probably lowering the LoD while creating the trailers/commercials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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