Tom_p10 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 I have some music that is in .ogg format but I am having a strange problem, the songs are about 3 min long but windows media player and my mp3 player think that they are 10-18 secs long depending on the file. It will play fine for this time and then just cut off. I have been playing them in winamp and they work just fine. media player wouldn't play them without a codec but then it just played the first 10 secs as i described earlier. I don't really mind about this seeing as i can just use winamp but I need them on my mp3 player. My mp3 player is a samsung yp z5. ogg files are apparently supported however it will only play the first 10-18 seconds. During this time the files play perfect but then it will just move on to the next. Is there something else i need to do or are the files just broken? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystk Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 I've had a very similar issue with some OGG files (songs converted from GTA SA) when playing them in WMP. But in my case, it showed only about ten seconds (the seek bar went to 10 seconds only), but it would continue playing. Do the tracks have to be in OGG format? Why not convert them to another format like MP3? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/#findComment-1057847563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_p10 Posted April 19, 2008 Author Share Posted April 19, 2008 (edited) I did convert them by burning them to cd them ripping in mp3 format. These new mp3 files worked perfectly on wmp however when i tried to put them on my mp3 player it just did the same thing as before. Even though they are now mp3 and it plays every other mp3 file ok. The firmware version of the mp3 is 2.40us is there something else i need to download or update. Edited April 19, 2008 by Tom_p10 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/#findComment-1057847665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystk Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Hmm, really weird. Try converting them directly to MP3, without ripping to a CD first. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/#findComment-1057849482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
H4milton Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 (edited) Amazing, It looks like I have answered this question more than 10 times, anyway, heres your solution: Download and install Sony sound forge 9.0a(trial), which can be found under: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Au...und-Forge.shtml Its the best audio editing software i've seen in my entire life. And its 300 USD which is fully worth of buying, dont worry you will download the trial. After installing drag and drop the files in the sound forge window, heres a pic of my sony sound forge 7.0 THen File>save as> plush.mp3(you will see a list)*** hola, you are done. ***plush is the name of the song performed by Stone temple Pilots also heard in Radio-X in GTA SA. Edited April 19, 2008 by Eeshan Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/#findComment-1057850263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_p10 Posted April 19, 2008 Author Share Posted April 19, 2008 converted them and still nothing the files are still only about 10 secs when the origional file was 3min. At least when i used a cd it did the whole thing even if it wouldn't work on my mp3. Anyway i shouldn't really need to convert them seeing as how my mp3 claims to be able to play the ogg files. Does anyone else have this mp3 player as i think it may be the problem. Does it need any extra files/updates to play them? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/#findComment-1057852915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystk Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I found the problem, apparently you need to switch to a newer firmware. The older firmware didn't *actually* support OGG even though the manual said so. Download the latest firmware and OGG will work . Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/#findComment-1057856844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive La France Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 The OGG format in my opinion is plain rubbish. Stick with Mp3s. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/#findComment-1057857115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_p10 Posted April 20, 2008 Author Share Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) Updated the firmware to ver 2.47 and it has made absolutly no difference. I still have all the same problems as before plus it has stopped recognising the mp3 when it is in ums mode. I think i will give up on these files and start again. Does anyone know of a program that will rip the music from san andreas into mp3 format? Edited April 20, 2008 by Tom_p10 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/#findComment-1057857382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystk Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 The only program that rips music from San Andreas is the one you're using now that converts to OGG. You can easily download the songs you want though. Try converting the OGG files with once more to MP3 with dBpoweramp, it might work, worth a shot. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/#findComment-1057867153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Miker Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 The OGG format in my opinion is plain rubbish. Stick with Mp3s. Why do you say that? First off, OGG is just a container, Vorbis is the actual audio codec in use in most OGG files. You do know that Vorbis' sound quality is superior to MP3's, right? Let's not forget the fact that MP3 was never made for music, it's called "MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3", and MPEG stands for "Moving Picture Experts Group". Basically, it was made as an audio codec for movies. If you want proof that Vorbis sounds better than MP3, just go to this wikipedia article: Vorbis Or if you're too lazy then I'll just give you a snippet: "However, trained listeners can often hear significant differences between codecs at identical bitrates, and aoTuV Vorbis performs better than LC-AAC, MP3, and MPC." Plus, MP3 doesn't support multichannel audio, while Vorbis supports 255(!) channels, which is way more than any other format does. Look, I know that Vorbis isn't really widely supported, but the reason for that is programs like Napster that made MP3 as popular as it is today. MP3 is practically synonymous with music thanks to them. It makes sense. At the time, MP3 was really the only worthy audio codec for music, but now it's really in last place behind all the rest. Hell, even WMA outperforms it...and that's really saying something. o_O Anyway, with that rant over, I'd just like to say that transcoding an OGG Vorbis file to MP3 is a really bad idea. You're basically taking one lossy format and converting it to another, and because of each format's different method of modifying the file to achieve lower space, the end result is that your new MP3 file will sound like sh*t compared to what you'd get if you had encoded it straight to MP3 from the source. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/#findComment-1057880090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4rto Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I would personally just flip through my GTA SA manual and find the names of the songs i wanted on my MP3 played and download them Saves the hastle. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/328278-ogg-files/#findComment-1057880669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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