OXM Gave GTA 10/10 BUT WHY?

[JREBEL7]

Its an excellent game but at the same time Microbucks aint dumb though this game is a perfect 10 and i aint even played it yet...whooo 2weeks

[Swiechu]

 

I see what your saying and it makes sense in the profit view of things.

 

I think reviewers would give GTA IV a 10/10 score because this is more than just another GTA release.

This is GTA's first next gen outing, this is as big as when GTA 3 came out on PS2 way back when, GTA 3 was a benchmark in the GTA series and games in general just as IV will potentionally be this time around.

 

GTA IV is the next generation of Grand Theft Auto so it will be this much better than say Vice City coming out after GTA 3 because Vice City  and San Andreas were not hugely different from eachover (in the way GTA 3 was different from GTA2 and GTA IV will be different from San Andreas)

 

I think your theory is looking at it this way because these big names are making money and sales the top priority in everything, it also could be that since III there have been many GTA clones and the overall quality of games has increased, for IV to be 10/10 it's going to have to fill a tall order.

 

Im pretty sure it has

You, sir, are somewhat wrong. GTA III didn't really get extraenthusiastic reviews, SA has the highest avarage score so far.

[Ekoms]

they overrated halo 3. lol

[JOKA22]

they overrated halo 3. lol

Yes,It was overrated but it was a damn good game.Anybody that says otherwise is just plain wrong....

[LemKo]

The conclusion is: Do not trust these official mags

 

Can't wait for IGN and Gametrailers (will it comes before the 29th?) review.

[Swiechu]

It ain't damn good, it's a gay game about colorful genetically modified creatures jumping 2 meters, emtying half the clip to an enemy to kill him in the same time. Offline mode sucks IMO, and CoD's multi is better.

[Antikyth3ra]

OXM gave Condemned 2 : Bloodshot 8/10. Overall it got an average of 81% (Gamerankings)

 

OXM is pretty good with there reviews. Considering this is a Multiplat it gives it all the more credibility because they are also giving a PS3 game a 10/10.

 

And they didn't really overrate Halo 3. It was a first party game which gave it a little extra push but it was critically acclaimed by every site as a AAA game 9.0+.

Edited April 15, 2008 by Antikyth3ra

[GoldenJoel]

I think its on part that its excellence, and also, probably because Xbox owners are so giddy that they get a version of the game on release. May be the hype...

 

I dunno, I hardly trust mags anymore. They always say Halo 3 and Bioshock are great games, but I never finished Bioshock, and Halo 3 was a meh...

 

I wait for Yahtzee.... He knows all.

 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/v...zeropunctuation

[GloRy]

they overrated halo 3. lol

Yes,It was overrated but it was a damn good game.Anybody that says otherwise is just plain wrong....

halo 3 is a fun game and the stuff you can do with making fun movies is unbelievable! Go on youtube and the HALO 3 movies people make are great. The halo 3 replay is amazing how you can pretty much control the camera. Of course the games amazing too for a first person shooter

[Swiechu]

I think its on part that its excellence, and also, probably because Xbox owners are so giddy that they get a version of the game on release. May be the hype...

 

I dunno, I hardly trust mags anymore. They always say Halo 3 and Bioshock are great games, but I never finished Bioshock, and Halo 3 was a meh...

 

I wait for Yahtzee.... He knows all.

 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/v...zeropunctuation

Maybe, but generally people say these are great games (BioShock is, Halo is all about hype)

[Creed Bratton]

I knew it would get 10/10 after the first trailer. As soon as I found out its in Liberty City again I knew there was a catch and that it will probably rock harder then any other game before

[boroguy]

While I respect what the OP said, its pretty clear that reviews don't impact sales.

 

NFS: Pro Street (Released November)- Average review was 6.2 and it sold more than 5.4 million copies and ranks 6th in best selling games for 2007.

Half-life Orange Box (Released November)- Average review was a 9.6 and it sold a mere 1.1 million and ranked 44th in best selling games for 2007.

 

Hype and the existing fanbase generates sales, not review scores. See the article below for statistics backing this up.

 

Next-Gen Article

 

If OXM gave it a 10/10, then they had a good reason to (the game kicks ***). There is no profitability in inflated review scores.

[josh14399]

This topics is about your thoughts on the reasoning behind why Official Xbox Magazine voted GTA IV 10/10.

 

Yes you might say its an amazing game thats why, but think about it more deeply. I am certain GTA does deserve a high rating but one could consider an alternate reasoning why '10/10' was given. Feel free to share your theory or comment.

 

Theory

 

'I believe' meaning it might not be accurate, that OXM gave GTA IV 10/10 as they have a vested intrest in GTA.

 

Lets first examine the downloadable content only for Xbox users. Now Microsoft in effect gave Rockstar a blank check for this. If OXM were to give GTA a bad rating then it would put Xbox users off the game and therefore, Microsoft would make less of a profit from the downloads.

 

It is not like your standard game where Microsoft have no influence and do not care about publishers sales, remember in this case Microsoft get a chunk of the cake, and an even larger slice if more people buy GTA 'potentially'.

 

Also remember that if they did not give it '10/10' and gave it say '9/10' their competitors Sony may well rate the game higher i.e. '10/10'. Now remember there is always going to be huge debates about what platform GTA IV will, and is better on. If Sony rate it higher then people maybe misleaded and consider GTA IV to be better on the PS3- which it may well be who knows.... Anyway Microsoft have secured the maximum rating, and hopefully a wide audience for the game to try to outdo its competition.

 

Can anybody justify my theory, or provide their own or comment on the above?

 

Thanks

oxm seem to rate games too high especialy 360 exclusives. just wait for the EDGE review if its 10/10 it must be awesome lol.

[Robioto]

Although possible, I think it's unlikely. As far as I know the OXM is independant from Microsoft even though they own it. To prevent bias and influenced opinions (like the OP example).

 

Much like the British Government and the BBC.

[Antikyth3ra]

GTA IV Isn't Exclusive. It is not a First Party game. OXM gave it a review based on how great it is don't forget by them giving this game 10/10 they gave PS3 a AAA game.

[markiij]

I just read the review and I believe the game is truly worth a 10/10. This is the game we waited for for years;).

[tld]

this game is going to be like no other game you have ever played

 

This will set the bench mark for future games

 

thats why

 

Why wouldnt they give it 10/10

[Twice]

I think the topic starter may well be right. There will be mags/sites that will just give it a 10/10 to prevent the complains from the kids that can't take criticism (they are also present in this thread). And OXM is biased, ofcourse. The DLC is a big deal for Microsoft, so this 10/10 is not a surprise. No matter how good or bad the game would be, they would probably add one point just for that fact. Also, both magazines and websites have to get out their reviews very fast, which leaves out the opportunity to really tell how a game is. Most annoyances come after a week of play, not after one and a half day.

 

So right now, everybody wants to hear that this game deserves a 10/10. In two months, most of us will have to admit that a 9/10 would suit the game better. If I'm wrong, I'll be back to apologize.

[mr.vicecity]

 

While were debating OXM conspiracy theory, I'd like to state that I believe that OXM was also behind the Kennedy assassination...and 9/11...........and Ice-scapades......

lol omg you know i totally agree you cracked me up ...that just made my day

thank you

[DarkPassenger]

Hmm, I blame the Chinese government and it's human rights violations. Oh, and immigrants, Jews, benefit scroungers, global warming, voter apathy, interest rates, the Iraq war, New Labour...

 

Miss anything?

 

NO! IT GOT 10/10 BECAUSE IT'S A f*ckING EXCELLENT GAME!!!

 

Sheesh feckin' kebab

[GycuBrun]

I think it is a bad idea for a magazine such as OXM or any other magazine to "overrate" games just to increase the sales ( or because they hate complaints) because I often check gaming sites and magazines reviews for games and I make my decision of buying a game only if it has a decent rating.

 

Do you want to buy a game that has 10/10 on reviews but when you play it you find out it has flaws and it's overrated ? Oh, but who's fault is it now?

 

Now, I think GTA will be a great game but defenetly not a perfect one since no game will ever be so I think it will be close to 10 but that's it just close.

[cupcrazy]

Too much thought into why they gave it a 10/10. I'am sure this game will be awesome.

[Mafioso86]

"This game that I've never played got a 10/10 because I it's the best game ever!!!"

 

I mean... come on guys... that's a bit much. Still, I don't doubt that it may very well be that good. Something that I think should be kept in mind is just how revolutionary this game may be. I mean I remember Sonic the Hedgehog and Starfox coming out when I was a kid and it was just insane... there was nothing like those before (ofcourse now you look at original starfox graphics and laugh..). I think Mario64 had a similar thing. Maybe Metal Gear Solid, Halo, and GTAIII last gen... but in a way those games were so specialized to a specific genre. I personally haven't played one 360/PS3 game that I was truely blown away with. Sure the graphics were better than last gen... maybe there was a little bit more stuff to do... but to be fair you could have made Halo3, COD4, or any of these 'next gen' games for a ps2 or xbox. From what we've seen of GTAIV... it appears to be the first game to my knowledge that will truely change the industry. And not even just for sandbox/action games... i think any game involving deep character development is going to have to look at how GTAIV did it. The other thing is GTA's big weakness in the past was combat... but from what we've heard about the new combat system it sounds like that's no longer an issue.

[tooji]

SONY FANBOY

 

 

 

 

.....They gave Call of Duty 4 a 9 and they gave Halo 3 a 9

 

 

Why does OXM care if Microsoft does well? If anything they would make more money just for having the first GTA IV review out, which is what they did.

[TheAtomicMoose]

Going by the inflated scores that are prevalent in game reviews, this game definitely deserves a 10/10, because much worse games get that rating. However, Official XBox, PS, Wii, whatever Magazines always give the 'big' name games 10/10. OXM gave halo 3 10/10, cod 10/10 and tons of others. While I think this game is awesome and will get 10/10's in many other places. I really don't respect the scores that these "official" magazines give out like butter at a butter party.

[tooji]

PGR4 didn't deserve a 10, the paid OXM, that is sure, it's a 8 game. Halo is a 7 game, but noone would rate it 7 or even 8 cos everyone would think it's ridiculous. IV is an awesome game, for like 9.8, but I don't think it would get a perfect 10 with not-so-great graphics, just look at previous installments of series. But then, if BioShock scored 10, and it's a great game, but media gave it about 9.7, so why wouldn't IV score a 10 in OXM?

They dont rate in decimals it only goes 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

 

[Athena]

This topics is about your thoughts on the reasoning behind why Official Xbox Magazine voted GTA IV 10/10.

 

Yes you might say its an amazing game thats why, but think about it more deeply. I am certain GTA does deserve a high rating but one could consider an alternate reasoning why '10/10' was given. Feel free to share your theory or comment.

 

Theory

 

'I believe' meaning it might not be accurate, that OXM gave GTA IV 10/10 as they have a vested intrest in GTA.

 

Lets first examine the downloadable content only for Xbox users. Now Microsoft in effect gave Rockstar a blank check for this. If OXM were to give GTA a bad rating then it would put Xbox users off the game and therefore, Microsoft would make less of a profit from the downloads.

 

It is not like your standard game where Microsoft have no influence and do not care about publishers sales, remember in this case Microsoft get a chunk of the cake, and an even larger slice if more people buy GTA 'potentially'.

 

Also remember that if they did not give it '10/10' and gave it say '9/10' their competitors Sony may well rate the game higher i.e. '10/10'. Now remember there is always going to be huge debates about what platform GTA IV will, and is better on. If Sony rate it higher then people maybe misleaded and consider GTA IV to be better on the PS3- which it may well be who knows.... Anyway Microsoft have secured the maximum rating, and hopefully a wide audience for the game to try to outdo its competition.

 

Can anybody justify my theory, or provide their own or comment on the above?

 

Thanks

Sounds about just right to me!

 

And I'm f*cking pissed how everything around this game is so Xbox 360 biased. Can't we get a f*cking PS3 review already?!?

 

When Microsoft puts its interests it totally shifts the balance apparently.

[lomas661]

i think the magazine was biased. as will the ps3 one will probably be

 

it was ridiculous how they stated that the 360 version is better than the ps3

and i reckon the ps3 mag will say the ps3 version is the best. best off reading a review from a neutral mag or site

[Kelvinellenton]

Uuuh Conspiracy Theories... Let's all take our thinking hats on and sue Microsoft

[MIA Brenzinski]

Sounds extremely reasonable. I'm sure there have been games with exclusive xbox content that haven't recieved a 10/10 though. We'll soon see more reviews to come!!!!