Dream Work

[dxk]

OK,

 

You have been selected to remake/ remodel one famous car/Bike. Any famous car/Bike...you'll have bring back the magic that went around when the original vehicle came out. The entire world is expecting this and all mags are behind you. Lets take the hype of GTA IV. You'll have change things to fit the today's fassion. Bring back a legend. Which car is worth your work? what will you do to it?

[silvermanblue]

I would probably bring back the Buick Grand National.

 

 

 

Grand National and GNX

 

T-Type Regal coupes, aimed at the performance market, appeared at this time. In 1982, the Regal Grand National debuted. Named for the NASCAR Grand National racing series, it had a 4.1 L V6 engine with 125 hp (93 kW) or an optional 180 hp turbocharged 3.8 L V6. There was no Grand National in 1983, but it returned in 1984 in all black paint. The turbocharged 3.8 became standard and would continue to be refined with fuel injection and intercooling. In 1987 it reached 245 hp (182 kW).

 

1987 also offered a lightweight WE4 (Turbo T) option. Only 1,547 of this variant were produced. They were painted black and treated to the same blackout package as the Grand National, including bumpers, grille, headlight and taillight trim. The differences between a WE4 and the base Grand National were the interior trim package, wheels, exterior badging, aluminum bumper supports, and aluminum rear brake drums as opposed to the Grand National's cast iron. The rear spoiler was only available as a dealer installed option. 1987 was the only year that the LC2 Turbo option was available on any Regal, making it possible to even see a Limited with a vinyl landau roof and a power bulge turbo hood.

 

For the final year, 1987, Buick introduced the GNX for $10,995. Produced by McLaren/ASC, Buick underrated the GNX at 276 hp (206 kW) and a very substantial 360 lb-ft (488 N·m) of torque which gave this car a 0-60 time of 5.3 seconds.[1] This was created so as to be "Grand National to end all Grand Nationals," as the next model year converted the chassis to front-wheel drive, which Buick engineers admitted would not be able to put down that much power[citation needed]. Changes made included a special Garrett ceramic-impellered turbocharger connected to a more efficient intercooler and a specially coated up pipe. A specific computer chip, low-restriction exhaust with dual mufflers, reprogrammed Turbo Hydramatic 200-4R transmission with a custom torque converter and transmission cooler, and unique differential cover/panhard bar included more of the performance modifications. Exterior styling changes include vents located on each front fender, 16 inch black mesh style wheels with VR-speed rated tires, and deletion of the hood and fender emblems. The interior changes of the GNX included a serial number on the dash plaque and a revised instrument cluster providing analog Stewart-Warner gauges, including an analog turbo boost gauge.

 

The acceleration performance of the GNX outpaced the factory's power claims: 0-60 mph (97 km/h) took just 4.5 s with a 13.4 s/104 mph (167 km/h) quarter-mile. These numbers made the GNX the fastest production sedan ever built, at the time.[citation needed] This claim is somewhat controversial—the car had two doors but its interior volume and structure made it a sedan rather than a coupe, and just 547 examples were built. GNX #001 is currently owned by Buick and sometimes makes appearances at car shows around the US. The GNX cost much less and could out-accelerate the naturally-aspirated 911 of the day. Ironically, many believe that these performance numbers were the reason the GNX was axed. GM did not want one of its own cars outperforming its flagship, the Corvette, and ended the Buick program. The GNX had a ladder bar that ran from the mid-section of the car to the rear axle, so as to increase traction. This is also the reason why a GNX will actually lift the rear end up when the car is about to launch heavily.

 

Another amazing aspect of the Buick Grand National and GNX is the ease of upgrading performance. As electronic technology increased in automobiles over the years, with the implementation of forced induction(such as turbochargers and superchargers) and chips controlling the many aspects of the car, increasing performance became that much easier. Simply by spending a few hundred dollars on a race chip and increasing the boost could drop the Grand National’s quarter-mile time from its stock fourteen second range into the high twelve-second range. Other easy upgrades include installing a larger turbocharger or purchasing larger fuel-injectors capable of supplying the engine with more fuel. The affordability and effectiveness of these upgrades made the Grand National a very popular car for drag-racing. In recent times with stock Corvettes producing quarter-mile times in the eleven second range, Grand Nationals provide an easy way to overcome the current “bad-boy” muscle cars. One can purchase a Grand National and upgrade it for far less money than buying a modern high-performance car and easily produce much quicker quarter-mile times.

 

 

First I would use the New Camaro as the new chassis, I wouldnt bring over any of the body panels jut the underpinnings. I would use the original 80's regal as the base for the body.

probably lower it by two or three inches. The roof I would cut down by about two inches.

The wheels would be 18 inchers in front and twentys in back, the back wheels will be about 1.5 times wider than the fronts. The backs would have about 2 more inches of side wall also.

 

As for the power plant I would opt for the 6.0 from the corvette and slap a turbocharger on it.

Its gotta have a turbo, its a grand national. I think about 12 pounds of boost is good.

That should pump the HP up to about 500. Maybe we could have a special edition with the 7.0 from the ZO6

That would be a 6 or 7 hundred horsepower car

 

silvermanblue drools

 

Yeah that Buick would kick ass!

 

[lurchseesu420]

Probably a Volkswagen 23 Window Sunroof Bus.

Built on a Porsche 997 911 platform. With a new 911 Carrera 4 drivetrain, suspension, brakes, and the engine from a Subaru WRX STI. Of course it would have original body panels. Would have to have all Bus trademarks. Safari windows, cloth sunroof, etc as well.

[dxk]

Wow, wild imagination.

 

I liked silvermanblue's idea as I always loved that original car's model(Virgo from the GTA series).

[lurchseesu420]

 

(Virgo from the GTA series).

The Virgo sure as hell isn't a GNX. It's more of a late 70's Lincoln Mark 9/ Ford Thunderbird/ Mercury Couger. The closest thing to a GNX in GTA would be the Majestic.

[EvilPenguin]

I would bring back BMW's E30 line up. The design would remain the same (minus the hideous American diving board bumpers). The dimensions and original design philosophy would be the basis from which to start. We'd drag out all the old engineering drawings and spec sheets and convert them to a modern CAD program and run detailed a FEA analysis on them. Give the design of the entire car a thorough shake down. Modern BMW choices would be available, but the M version would have a high revving four banger, true to its racing heritage.

 

 

Never has a car captured my heart as this one. Simple, practical, FUN. This car had everything going for it.

[stingray.]

I would bring back the Triumph Spitfire.

 

I would use the underpinnings of a Ford Mustang (S197). 19 inch alloys at the back and front. Source the engine from the Jaguar XK and tune it to around 350 hp. Use lightweight materials like Aluminium and make it weigh around 3000lb.

 

Bad idea. I know.

Edited April 15, 2008 by stingray132

[lurchseesu420]

 

Use lightweight materials like Aluminium and make it weight around 3000lb.

 

Bad idea. I know.

Wasn't the original spitfire under 2000 without any lightweight materials? Also, why use the Mustang's platform? Why not the Jags? That way you could keep it all British (to some extent). And something tells me that 19's would look fugly on a car that originally came with 13's.

Edited April 15, 2008 by lurchseesu420

[stingray.]

Wasn't the original spitfire under 2000 without any lightweight materials? Also, why use the Mustang's platform? Why not the Jags? That way you could keep it all British (to some extent). And something tells me that 19's would look fugly on a car that originally came with 13's.

I know, but this one is supposed to be alot bigger (and fatter), like all modern retro cars compared to their classic counterparts. Added luxury will make the car heavier. It could come back as a TVR Tuscan-type of car.

[lurchseesu420]

Wasn't the original spitfire under 2000 without any lightweight materials? Also, why use the Mustang's platform? Why not the Jags? That way you could keep it all British (to some extent). And something tells me that 19's would look fugly on a car that originally came with 13's.

I know, but this one is supposed to be alot bigger (and fatter), like all modern retro cars compared to their classic counterparts. Added luxury will make the car heavier. It could come back as a TVR Tuscan-type of car.

So would it be to mock all of the current retro cars in a way? Like how the new Mini Cooper S is twice the weight and about a 1.5 feet longer than the original with nothing in common and none of the trademarks of the original. Or how the New Beetle has an F/F layout with a water cooled inline 4. A TVR seems like a bad example though as they're some of the only cars still made that follow the old formula of minimal creature comforts and being extremely light. Still I see where you're coming from with the idea.

[dxk]

So, no one wants to build a car that can talk or sing? You know, more interactive and stuff. For safety perposes.

[swolo yaggins]

Second generation Chevrolet K5 Blazer with the following changes:

4-wheel disc brakes.

HID lights.

Leather seating.

10-way power adjustable seats.

Power locks.

Power windows.

Bose Premium Sound System.

[lurchseesu420]

 

Second generation Chevrolet K5 Blazer with the following changes:

4-wheel disc brakes.

HID lights.

Leather seating.

10-way power adjustable seats.

Power locks.

Power windows.

Bose Premium Sound System.

Some of those features just seem out of place on something like this.

 

 

The 4 wheel disc and sound system would be cool though.

[swolo yaggins]

I'd probably replace my Explorer with said vehicle and thrash around town with it.

 

 

Wouldn't it be great to go mudding IN COMFORT?

[dxk]

Guys, you just wanna street mod cars. I mean re-designing for the next gen where cars fly.

 

Side Note:- Leather seats, 10-way power adjustable seats,Bose Premium Sound System!!!

[lurchseesu420]

If I wanted to fly, I'd buy a small plane.

[Picolini]

Or how the New Beetle has an F/F layout with a water cooled inline 4.

You and your air cooled obsession

Of course they'd go with a water cooled engine, why not? Air cooling an engine isn't reliable enough to put in mass production, especially with all the bumper-to-bumper traffic these days.

As for the FF layout, that's what finalized it being a chick car. Round, bubbly, "cute" design and front wheel drive... then offer it in colors like pink and neon green... they knew who their market was.

[lurchseesu420]

 

Or how the New Beetle has an F/F layout with a water cooled inline 4.

You and your air cooled obsession

Of course they'd go with a water cooled engine, why not? Air cooling an engine isn't reliable enough to put in mass production, especially with all the bumper-to-bumper traffic these days.

As for the FF layout, that's what finalized it being a chick car. Round, bubbly, "cute" design and front wheel drive... then offer it in colors like pink and neon green... they knew who their market was.

I was just making a point of how new cars are dumbed down compared to the old stuff. And as far as the real air-cooled veedubs go, Mexico was still turning out the Beetle was made up until 2003 and the air cooled bus was made up until 2005. I don't think you know much about air cooling though pic. Not being reliable? WTF? It has nothing to do with not being reliable. It's considered one most reliable engines of all time, especially in extreme conditions (WW2 anybody?). And bumper-to-bumper traffic fazing them? What a joke. That was never the case. The whole reason why VW and Porsche switched to water cooling was because they could no longer meat emissions standards. That's the reason why they finally switched the T2 over to water cooling in 2006, the T3 Vanogon to it in 83 (the engine was already a near 50 year old design), and the 996 to it 97. All because of some piddly-ass EPA bullsh*t laws. And as far as performance, Porsche proved that air cooling didn't restrain the hp that could be made. Hell the 917-30 had 1100+ hp and it was air cooled.

 

See pico, you made me go on a rant.

Edited April 17, 2008 by lurchseesu420

[Drunk Russian 9]

 

Ohh yes.

 

With the 08 camaro interior

 

and engine.

[kevin2006rhs]

I dunno...I just saw the Camaro for the first time in person a few days ago and I must admit, I find it more sexier than the Chalenger and that weird thing you posted.

 

 

 

I have some really big versions of that shot if you really want it.

[Picolini]

With a few tweeks (mainly to the grill design) to that older 08 Camaro concept by that one kid, I would seriously mess my pants over it. So much sexier than the current Camaro, imo. And it has more of a Camaro look to it, I think.

[stingray.]

I dunno...I just saw the Camaro for the first time in person a few days ago and I must admit, I find it more sexier than the Chalenger and that weird thing you posted.

I don't know, I still like the Challenger's styling. Have you seen the Camaro prototypes running around? They look god-awfully cheap, and GM themselves have confirmed that the only things non-production on those mules are the headlamps and the grille. I'll try to show you a picture if I can find one.

[Drunk Russian 9]

Saw it at the auto show . . . just hated it. Too modern.

[stingray.]

Saw it at the auto show . . . just hated it. Too modern.

The prototypes are watered down and fuglier.

[tuff_luv_capo]

 

I see it comes stock with the "gangsta lean" seats.

[uzer]

 

I need to redo this with an actual mouse when the semester's over. Hard to design with a laptop nub.