gamefarter Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 As an american, I am thankful that there is a God, as it is by him who I get my individual right. I have not the government to thank for my freedoms, but God, who superceeds the authority of government. But, I supose all you athiests would look to government, the great oppressor for your rights. Fools. The reason I just gave you is reason enough to believe in God. Even if it's just to recognize ones individuality. Maybe that's why so many athiests want to live in a pod of socialism. Good grief, talk about illogical, and blind to history. Always have the answers, as long as we don't ask the "wrong" questions. With out our government the world would be in complete Anarchy. Then you would soon find you have no god. Then let the government be our "god". Uncle Sam does a better job protecting society than you god does. Can you call your god and him send help if you need it? No. I call the "MAN" and they arrest the problem. Like in the Katrina disaster. Like I said, pay attention to history, even if is recent. The government blew it, state, local, and federal. But yeah, just wait to be rescued, with a thumb up your ass. Maybe by then you will have pulled out the one you have up there now to make room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat1871 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Lets be realistic. Jihad, or holy war, isnt a pillar of the Christian faith like it is in Islam. And last time I checked there werent violent protests everytime someone does something Christians find offensive. Lets not even get into the fact that Muslims consider those that kill innocent people in the name of Islam to still be Muslim. Christians would never consider someone that killed innocent people in the name of Christ to still be Christians. Actually, to kill for Christ was long a central theme in European politics, certainly with the Moors, crusades, the religious wars after 1517 (even before, Nestorians, Arians, etc. etc.). Even if God Himself preaches love and compassion, politics will preach the direct opposite in the name of the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Engage Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Sorry but attacking islam calling them terrorists is not racist. If he were to say f*cking iraqi's or afghans then yeah racist, but f*cking muslims is not racist. Offensive but not racist. What would the word be if not "racist"? "Ethicist?" "Religionist?" None of those fit. How about Bigotry? That fits quite snugly. This reminds me of an argument when I declared that implying Americans were illiterate was racist and some smartass retorted with, "America isn't a race." You calling him a smart ass turns you into a hypocrite. Bigotry? No sir. The word that fits is xenaphobe. Any nationality that flies a plane into a building in my country i hate with a passion. Eat sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 There are Muslims who condemn their extremist factions in case one is unaware. Those who have only desire for peace. The other argument can be made for Buddhists as well. I had a friend who was also a buddhist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark3boyz Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) The government didnt blow Katrina. All the dumbasses that knew an enormous hurricane was coming and didnt leave blew Katrina. And lets not blame todays Christians for something that happened in 1517. Lets look at how it is now vs. how islam is now. Edited April 14, 2008 by mark3boyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Engage Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 As an american, I am thankful that there is a God, as it is by him who I get my individual right. I have not the government to thank for my freedoms, but God, who superceeds the authority of government. But, I supose all you athiests would look to government, the great oppressor for your rights. Fools. The reason I just gave you is reason enough to believe in God. Even if it's just to recognize ones individuality. Maybe that's why so many athiests want to live in a pod of socialism. Good grief, talk about illogical, and blind to history. Always have the answers, as long as we don't ask the "wrong" questions. With out our government the world would be in complete Anarchy. Then you would soon find you have no god. Then let the government be our "god". Uncle Sam does a better job protecting society than you god does. Can you call your god and him send help if you need it? No. I call the "MAN" and they arrest the problem. Like in the Katrina disaster. Like I said, pay attention to history, even if is recent. The government blew it, state, local, and federal. But yeah, just wait to be rescued, with a thumb up your ass. Maybe by then you will have pulled out the one you have up there now to make room. Spare me the bullsh*t. Your "god" is probably the one who cuased Katrina. At least the government sent troops to help. I dont see your god doing sh*t. With out our government the world would be in complete Anarchy. Then you would soon find you have no god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKlorox Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 You calling him a smart ass turns you into a hypocrite. Bigotry? No sir. The word that fits is xenaphobe. Any nationality that flies a plane into a building in my country i hate with a passion. Eat sh*t. LOL. Thanks for making us all look bad, smart guy. Besides, no "nationality" did that. It was a specific terrorist group. Also, it's bigotry caused by xenophobia, genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark3boyz Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Hes just pissed off its not his fault. At least hes not like the other half of the country who thinks we can convince terrorists not to kill us by making them tea and cookies... And talking about our problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Engage Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 You calling him a smart ass turns you into a hypocrite. Bigotry? No sir. The word that fits is xenaphobe. Any nationality that flies a plane into a building in my country i hate with a passion. Eat sh*t. LOL. Thanks for making us all look bad, smart guy. Besides, no "nationality" did that. It was a specific terrorist group. Also, it's bigotry caused by xenophobia, genius. And yet that group came from a NATION in the middle east. stfu and back down while we Athiest strike this thread with a final blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrKlorox Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 At least hes not like the other half of the country who thinks we can convince terrorists not to kill us by making them tea and cookies... And talking about our problems I suppose that's one way to look at it. There are some groups of people who are simply incapable of reason or negotiation... without being smacked-around a little bit first. Such as Crimson Engage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Lets be realistic. Jihad, or holy war, isnt a pillar of the Christian faith like it is in Islam. And last time I checked there werent violent protests everytime someone does something Christians find offensive. Lets not even get into the fact that Muslims consider those that kill innocent people in the name of Islam to still be Muslim. Christians would never consider someone that killed innocent people in the name of Christ to still be Christians. Actually, to kill for Christ was long a central theme in European politics, certainly with the Moors, crusades, the religious wars after 1517 (even before, Nestorians, Arians, etc. etc.). Even if God Himself preaches love and compassion, politics will preach the direct opposite in the name of the first. Many athiests point to man's failings under religeon as an example of God's impact on the World but then what accounts for Sin in their book? As I understand Faith, God is not going to intervene, it's not his job, other then to offer miracles (whether you accept that or not) The belief I have is that Sin is cast apon this Earth, not any other in the galaxy, so all that is bad and wrong is that battle between good and evil. Just so you understand where a person of Faith is coming from, don't blame wrong doings of mankind on God, but rather the Devil or forces of Evil set to destroy all that's Holy and good. GTA is just a game, entertainment. I don't look on things that are cathartic as bad for you, this allows an arena to take out emotions that one builds in the real world, I only see it as a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark3boyz Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 NOW THATS FUNNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietWarrior42 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 We gave Kim Jong-Il a basketball? For Pete's sake, that's dumb. What's next? Give Abadibajad a basball signed by Derek Jeter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicemanstyle Posted April 14, 2008 Author Share Posted April 14, 2008 At least hes not like the other half of the country who thinks we can convince terrorists not to kill us by making them tea and cookies... And talking about our problems What like we (the UK) successfully did with mr Jerry Adams and the IRA??? Of course negotiating is the only way forward. Anyway off topic. I want to see jokes mocking, christians, muslims, jews, scientologists, athiests, buddhists , seiks, and Jedi's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat1871 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Lets be realistic. Jihad, or holy war, isnt a pillar of the Christian faith like it is in Islam. And last time I checked there werent violent protests everytime someone does something Christians find offensive. Lets not even get into the fact that Muslims consider those that kill innocent people in the name of Islam to still be Muslim. Christians would never consider someone that killed innocent people in the name of Christ to still be Christians. Actually, to kill for Christ was long a central theme in European politics, certainly with the Moors, crusades, the religious wars after 1517 (even before, Nestorians, Arians, etc. etc.). Even if God Himself preaches love and compassion, politics will preach the direct opposite in the name of the first. Many athiests point to man's failings under religeon as an example of God's impact on the World but then what accounts for Sin in their book? As I understand Faith, God is not going to intervene, it's not his job, other then to offer miracles (whether you accept that or not) The belief I have is that Sin is cast apon this Earth, not any other in the galaxy, so all that is bad and wrong is that battle between good and evil. Just so you understand where a person of Faith is coming from, don't blame wrong doings of mankind on God, but rather the Devil or forces of Evil set to destroy all that's Holy and good. GTA is just a game, entertainment. I don't look on things that are cathartic as bad for you, this allows an arena to take out emotions that one builds in the real world, I only see it as a good thing. Is that directed to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Engage Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 At least hes not like the other half of the country who thinks we can convince terrorists not to kill us by making them tea and cookies... And talking about our problems I suppose that's one way to look at it. There are some groups of people who are simply incapable of reason or negotiation... without being smacked-around a little bit first. Such as Crimson Engage. You continue to bable and look like a fool. I came into this thread and started a personal experiment. And it was a success. The experiment? Is religion the cause of war and conflict? Simply put yes. Tell me Mr. K. How long has the war in the middle east been going on for? Answere? THOUSANDS of years. Thier is NO reasoning with the middle east. We leave them alone they attack. This thread is a warzone now. Why? Religion was brought into it. I rest my case. good day to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I just lost all the content I had typed up but, NO, not directed at you, I'm stating my opinions only, no fueding with anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark3boyz Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) What like we (the UK) successfully did with mr Jerry Adams and the IRA??? Of course negotiating is the only way forward. Anyway off topic.I want to see jokes mocking, christians, muslims, jews, scientologists, athiests, buddhists , seiks, and Jedi's. The IRA terrorist threat to the UK was nothing like the Islamic terrorist threat to the US. You would have to be either completely out of your f*cking mind to believe that or have no grasp on reality or history. Negotiations are the only way foreward? What do we say? Ok, you can blow Israel off the map and in return we get.... Jackass... Edited April 14, 2008 by mark3boyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat1871 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I just lost all the content I had typed up but, NO, not directed at you, I'm stating my opinions only, no fueding with anyone No no, i didn't even think it was vicious or anything . Just a little bit confused about the qoute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Engage Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I just lost all the content I had typed up but, NO, not directed at you, I'm stating my opinions only, no fueding with anyone Another reason your getting my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freethy Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) With out our government the world would be in complete Anarchy. Hahaha! Thats probably the funniest thing I have read in this thread. Edited April 14, 2008 by freethy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat1871 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 What like we (the UK) successfully did with mr Jerry Adams and the IRA??? Of course negotiating is the only way forward. Anyway off topic.I want to see jokes mocking, christians, muslims, jews, scientologists, athiests, buddhists , seiks, and Jedi's. The IRA terrorist threat to the UK was nothing like the Islamic terrorist threat to the US. You would have to be either completely out of your f*cking mind to believe that or have no grasp on reality or history. Negotiations are the only way foreward? What do we say? Ok, you can blow Israel off the map and in return we get.... Jackass... It worked with Egypt :s, Sadat was such a nice fellow. Is it just me, or did this topic derail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Engage Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 With out our government the world would be in complete Anarchy. Then you would soon find you have no god. Hahaha! Thats probably the funniest thing I have read in this thread. I'm glad you think so. Do you have any idea what would happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freethy Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 With out our government the world would be in complete Anarchy. Then you would soon find you have no god. Hahaha! Thats probably the funniest thing I have read in this thread. I'm glad you think so. Do you have any idea what would happen? I think the real question is do YOU have any idea what will happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_fan Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Whats the point of trying to awnsering a question which is unawnserable? There is no evidence that can prove or disprove that their is a god. i don't mind religous people but the extremsists and fundametalists piss me off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicemanstyle Posted April 14, 2008 Author Share Posted April 14, 2008 What like we (the UK) successfully did with mr Jerry Adams and the IRA??? Of course negotiating is the only way forward. Anyway off topic.I want to see jokes mocking, christians, muslims, jews, scientologists, athiests, buddhists , seiks, and Jedi's. The IRA terrorist threat to the UK was nothing like the Islamic terrorist threat to the US. You would have to be either completely out of your f*cking mind to believe that or have no grasp on reality or history. Negotiations are the only way foreward? What do we say? Ok, you can blow Israel off the map and in return we get.... Jackass... So the islamic terrorists are only a threat to the US??? hmmmm. Last time i checked they had attacked the UK, Spain, Bali, and others. But then i guess there is no arguing with a typical small minded, fascist american like yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKlorox Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) As I understand Faith, God is not going to intervene, it's not his job, other then to offer miracles From a "former atheist's" point of view (I'm spiritually agnostic: about 80% atheist [in the traditional sense]; I believe religion was established to objectify spirituality, which simply cannot be done), miracles/disasters are/can be inspired by human consciousness. There is a study that took place in Washington, DC where a large number of people meditated/prayed for the decrease of violent crime in the city with interesting results. To say conscious being with a specific persona is controlling all these events is slightly presumptuous. I could see how primitive man could imagine this, but with the advents of modern society (democracy, psychology, quantum physics, etc...) we can come to more radical, less "inside the box" ideals. Your interpretation of purpose of "God" and miracles is not far from my own. Can I ask you a personal question, Slamman? Have you ever done magic mushrooms or LSD? (Note that speaking of past illegal experiences is not illegal). Edited April 14, 2008 by MrKlorox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 The only religion I want them to make fun of is Scientology, which they have to a certain extent in San Andreas with the Epsilon Program. Hopefully they will throw in a nutcase actor promoting it called Bob Ride (Tom Cruise ). I mucked up a post that just cleared on me and I was trying to do over, so, I think my browser cache is filled or something, but I just saw that comedy spoof on Superhero movies where Tom Cruise is poked fun at for his YouTube rantings (I don't think he put them up, but someone else) I was not amused by their parody although I certainly can't relate to his musings on Scientology, he SHOULD stick to acting, directing and producing, where no one can really fault his expertise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Engage Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 With out our government the world would be in complete Anarchy. Then you would soon find you have no god. Hahaha! Thats probably the funniest thing I have read in this thread. I'm glad you think so. Do you have any idea what would happen? I think the real question is do YOU have any idea what will happen? Anarchy- The absence off a government. An inefficientcy of a supreme power. AKA The USA. With no laws every man would have absolute liberty. Meaning when thier is no prison system criminals will run the streets again. Stealing and murdering. Absolute chaos, Mass rioting. You would be lucky to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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