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GTA: San Andreas Beta


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DeeZire

Yep sorry guys this is a great project and all but I dont want to commit to something when I know I just cant give it any time - I have enough trouble dedicating time to my own mod as it is smile.gif

 

Saying that, here's a little help for ya, a few things you have overlooked that I stumbled across when making my mod which I regard as leftovers or old beta features that were dropped;-

 

- It was definately planned that there would be another minigame in the casinos - craps - and the craps table is still in the game files but is never used and does not appear anywhere in the game - look inside gta_int.img for craps_table.dff. I think it was dropped purely for time constraints as coding a craps game isnt that hard (theres a few flash versions on the web).

 

- Similarly, theres a gym machine still in the game files that was never hooked up or used anywhere but there are no player animations to support it. Look inside gta_int.img for gym_bench2.dff. I think this one was dropped because this machine could allow you to work up 2 stats at once.

 

- You all know about the skateboard but again this can be made to work by butchering Vicolships' code from http://www.vicolaships.moi.fr/index.php?file=News - there's a thread on these forums for it somewheres. My tip would be to replace RCCAM instead of a bike so the skateboard becomes an extra 'vehicle'.

 

- Theres no models left in the game files, but in addition to the normal street vendors there was supposed to be a Slushies vendor (Thrush, Mushy & Frosty were the three Slushie flavors). This was detailed in an early preview, so it may have been replaced with the ice cream cart.

 

Ive spent a hell of a lot of time pouring through the game files (thats my thing) so I can dispell a few myths for you too;-

 

- the 'beta Police Rancher' is simply the special Rancher model that should have been used in the 'Lure' mission (its doors fall off when its damaged instead of it taking normal vehicle damage). That special model never gets used.

 

- it was never announced that carwashes could be used, it was an assumption because cars got dirty on the PS2 and there were carwashes on the map - the surface files detail which surfaces and weather types make your car dirty and make them clean. My feeling is they ran out of time and I would have expected them to be implemented like they are in GTAIV.

 

- the Police bikers outfits were not changed from the beta, there are three different Police bikers in the game files (one for each city) but, simply, only one was implemented (the LSPD one) in the final release.

 

Good luck!

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fire-1-up

yup i saw gym_bench2 earlier in the week when I was mapping, but i kept forgetting to look for the animations. It reminds me of one of them bowflex lookin' things that lets you do a variety of excercises.

 

speaking of unused vendors, there are lots of other peds that don't show up, for example i got a mexican drug dealer, biker drug dealer, a pimp, and the psycho among others in my own game, with all the models and voices already made by rockstar.

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markmartir
Yep sorry guys this is a great project and all but I dont want to commit to something when I know I just cant give it any time - I have enough trouble dedicating time to my own mod as it is smile.gif

 

Saying that, here's a little help for ya, a few things you have overlooked that I stumbled across when making my mod which I regard as leftovers or old beta features that were dropped;-

 

- It was definately planned that there would be another minigame in the casinos - craps - and the craps table is still in the game files but is never used and does not appear anywhere in the game - look inside gta_int.img for craps_table.dff. I think it was dropped purely for time constraints as coding a craps game isnt that hard (theres a few flash versions on the web).

 

- Similarly, theres a gym machine still in the game files that was never hooked up or used anywhere but there are no player animations to support it. Look inside gta_int.img for gym_bench2.dff. I think this one was dropped because this machine could allow you to work up 2 stats at once.

 

- You all know about the skateboard but again this can be made to work by butchering Vicolships' code from http://www.vicolaships.moi.fr/index.php?file=News - there's a thread on these forums for it somewheres. My tip would be to replace RCCAM instead of a bike so the skateboard becomes an extra 'vehicle'.

 

- Theres no models left in the game files, but in addition to the normal street vendors there was supposed to be a Slushies vendor (Thrush, Mushy & Frosty were the three Slushie flavors). This was detailed in an early preview, so it may have been replaced with the ice cream cart.

 

Ive spent a hell of a lot of time pouring through the game files (thats my thing) so I can dispell a few myths for you too;-

 

- the 'beta Police Rancher' is simply the special Rancher model that should have been used in the 'Lure' mission (its doors fall off when its damaged instead of it taking normal vehicle damage). That special model never gets used.

 

- it was never announced that carwashes could be used, it was an assumption because cars got dirty on the PS2 and there were carwashes on the map - the surface files detail which surfaces and weather types make your car dirty and make them clean. My feeling is they ran out of time and I would have expected them to be implemented like they are in GTAIV.

 

- the Police bikers outfits were not changed from the beta, there are three different Police bikers in the game files (one for each city) but, simply, only one was implemented (the LSPD one) in the final release.

 

Good luck!

Hey deezire longtime no see you must help jojo from his mod!

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FullMetal

Deezire does whatever he likes.

 

I do hope he has the oppertunity to finish his mod for SA (things to do in SA untill you are dead). Looked awesome, especially with all the extra features/peds/stuff in it!

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nuttybutty

Do you guys want to see the benches and all that stuff? I'll use my tool to show it notify.gif

 

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No bones.

 

 

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No bones notify.gif

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user posted image

 

No bones notify.gif

I hope someone gets that to work inlove.gif

 

Edit: Heres a beta ped. As you can see the texture is very cartoony, but it has a good model.

user posted image

The anims for the stomach are messed up when ingame sometimes. Someone who has experience with anims should fix that..

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You want me to make that bench?

I do, but your probably asking JoJo. Do you think you can?

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nuttybutty

I can. Just need to know if it's neccesary in the mod?

 

So yeah, it's at you and Jojo.

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No bones notify.gif

I hope someone gets that to work inlove.gif

 

Edit: Heres a beta ped. As you can see the texture is very cartoony, but it has a good model.

user posted image

The anims for the stomach are messed up when ingame sometimes. Someone who has experience with anims should fix that..

WTF! Alyx from Hal-Life 2 zomg! biggrin.gif

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user posted image

 

No bones notify.gif

I hope someone gets that to work inlove.gif

 

Edit: Heres a beta ped. As you can see the texture is very cartoony, but it has a good model.

user posted image

The anims for the stomach are messed up when ingame sometimes. Someone who has experience with anims should fix that..

WTF! Alyx from Hal-Life 2 zomg! biggrin.gif

Roofl thats what i said too when i saw it in the files, I was like "Wtf are you serious? this is Alyx!" lmao!

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WTF! Alyx from Hal-Life 2 zomg! biggrin.gif

 

Roofl thats what i said too when i saw it in the files, I was like "Wtf are you serious? this is Alyx!" lmao!

What are you talking about? Could you show a pic of her in half life two so I can see?

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WTF! Alyx from Hal-Life 2 zomg! biggrin.gif

 

Roofl thats what i said too when i saw it in the files, I was like "Wtf are you serious? this is Alyx!" lmao!

What are you talking about? Could you show a pic of her in half life two so I can see?

Yeah look biggrin.gif

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If you can't see the image go here:

http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/images/e/e9/Alyx.jpg

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Uh... The only thing similar in that ped and Alyx is that they both wear jeans. Everything else isn't even close. The jacket is different, Alyx's shirt is way differnent, Alyx isn't black, she doesn't wear a cap.

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Uh... The only thing similar in that ped and Alyx is that they both wear jeans. Everything else isn't even close. The jacket is different, Alyx's shirt is way differnent, Alyx isn't black, she doesn't wear a cap.

dosent matter. it does remind her

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Jojo did you finish with that studying for the test biggrin.gif ?

If you do please post the beta ryder photos wink.gif.

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Uh... The only thing similar in that ped and Alyx is that they both wear jeans. Everything else isn't even close. The jacket is different, Alyx's shirt is way differnent, Alyx isn't black, she doesn't wear a cap.

They have the same friggin' hair style.

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OK Guys it took me quite a while, but i did it.

I'm oficially a biginer modeller! WOOHOO!!

and here he is!:

CutScene (CS)

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I should make hes hands longer i know I'm working on it..

InGame (IG)

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Yeah i know.. but the SA-MP server had a problem with the commands and i couldnt have spawned a "Greenwood" so i had to do it with this pimped Savanna.

 

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Drippin'187

coo, but in them old screen yu do kno he has cornrows right

 

also, found a couple pics

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from that one, it looks like you would have been able to enter the garage regularly because the bullet is just sitting there.

 

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in that pic, it looks like the cars in wang autos may have been different, since that one in the window is different. also theres people inside so im guessing it was possible for peds to enter it before.

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Nice jojo how awsome Ryder. long did it take you to learn to model?

no.. not really long... i didnt really do something so great that.. you know, but it was worth it smile.gif

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Nice jojo how awsome Ryder. long did it take you to learn to model?

no.. not really long... i didnt really do something so great that.. you know, but it was worth it smile.gif

Then when you get better, try putting Cesar some glasses smile.gif

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Artur$MD
Nice jojo how awsome Ryder. long did it take you to learn to model?

no.. not really long... i didnt really do something so great that.. you know, but it was worth it smile.gif

Then when you get better, try putting Cesar some glasses smile.gif

Cesar was never been with the glasses in the beta

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Nice jojo how awsome Ryder. long did it take you to learn to model?

no.. not really long... i didnt really do something so great that.. you know, but it was worth it smile.gif

Then when you get better, try putting Cesar some glasses smile.gif

Cesar was never been with the glasses in the beta

His other texture mod, not this.

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markmartir
Nice jojo how awsome Ryder. long did it take you to learn to model?

no.. not really long... i didnt really do something so great that.. you know, but it was worth it smile.gif

Then when you get better, try putting Cesar some glasses smile.gif

Pinoy ka ba?

 

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Nice jojo how awsome Ryder. long did it take you to learn to model?

no.. not really long... i didnt really do something so great that.. you know, but it was worth it smile.gif

Then when you get better, try putting Cesar some glasses smile.gif

Pinoy ka ba?

I already told you I am. lol.

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