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Timmons55

Is US education really as bad as it is made out?

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Timmons55

Now living in scotland i can say i know very little about the education in America so i am not going to jump to a conclusion and say it is terrible, but i would like to know.

 

Over the past few years eduction in the US has been made out as terribe, worse than countries such as Korea....But is it really this bad.

 

On youtube i find videos like these:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaN6Rx8X6_I&feature=related

 

but do all these things really show fact? is the education in america really this bad? i would like to know from you guys...

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Napalm Jason

The United States education system is so terrible. Also, not to mention completely f*cked.

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Stuch

Hah, that first video is brilliant!

 

"What money do they use in the United Kingdom?"

"Errr... Queen Elizabeth Money...?"

 

:S

 

I've got to say, I've picked up on this too. While I wouldn't stereotype all Americans as 'dumb', I do think it's the growing consensus.

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nlitement

It's worse than I'd imagined.

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IceCreamMan

Yes, it's terrible especially, in urban neighborhoods.

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Timmons55

if it is really that bad then where did it all go wrong? and why the hell is nothing being done about it?

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Napalm Jason
if it is really that bad then where did it all go wrong? and why the hell is nothing being done about it?

If logic ruled the world...

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Hodgey.

LOL ive seen the first video before, but the second one is decent too.

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Straznicy

More Yankee-doodle hilarity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEP7uti0PDw

 

I think it's hyped up a bit for our amusement, but they're definitely lacking in the old education department. You should all go to Cuba.

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Woody510
if it is really that bad then where did it all go wrong? and why the hell is nothing being done about it?

If logic ruled the world...

No, if Charles Bronson ruled the world! (deathwish was the sh*t)

 

On topic: The u.s education system has so many flaws that i don't know where to begin. Out of all my time grades K-12, there wasn't a single time that a question was brought up that actually required one to think. Everything we did was based on either memorization, or our ability to look something up in a book confused.gif

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Timmons55
if it is really that bad then where did it all go wrong? and why the hell is nothing being done about it?

If logic ruled the world...

No, if Charles Bronson ruled the world! (deathwish was the sh*t)

 

On topic: The u.s education system has so many flaws that i don't know where to begin. Out of all my time grades K-12, there wasn't a single time that a question was brought up that actually required one to think. Everything we did was based on either memorization, or our ability to look something up in a book confused.gif

it surely cant be that bad across the whole nation can it.....

 

and Straznicy after watching that video i am in even more shock, "i thought Europe was a country" thats rediculous. Something seriously needs to be done about it if it is really that bad..

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shaboobala

It's pretty bad actually yeah. The Canadian system isn't much better either.

 

You really notice the difference when people come from other countries and they ace everything/get bumped up a grade. My Hungarian friend went through every science and math course that my school offered without studying once. He's not some kind of genius back home either. I've been to Hungary and everyone there+Europe in general receives a much better education.

 

Christ, I remember one time, a girl in my gr12 writer's craft spelled "economics" thusly: econo-mix. Motherf*cking econo-mix.

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DeeperRed

You got to remeber when you watch these vids, there made for entertainment perposes so there not exactly going to show all the ones who get it right and they were probley the majority. In England our education isn't too great, I go to the one of the best private schools in england but most of th people are less clever then people who go to the most deprived state schools. Every country is going to have its stupid and clever people. mean I know america isn't great but hell it still beats most countries.

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Ronnyboy

In the first video that was mostly Texas, bunch of idiots there. However our education has gone down the drain. Less funding is mostly the problem. The school district I am in can barely afford it's middle school band. Yet the high school I'm going to in two years gets the finest in equipment because they are always state champion.

 

 

 

Where all the money goes!

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TubbyJ

Meh, that's not to say all or even the majority of Americans are stupid or ignorant. If you ask most of my friends about Europe, they'd say they could give less of a f*ck. That's not me though, and that just goes to show you how arrogant we can be as Americans.

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matthew1g

 

mean I know america isn't great but hell it still beats most countries.

 

at what? falling value of dollar? having people with no moral values ( I know you're all gonna eat me alive for this, but face it, most of american's don't know what that is) putting up wars? what? and compared to who?

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TubbyJ
mean I know america isn't great but hell it still beats most countries.

 

at what? falling value of dollar? having people with no moral values ( I know you're all gonna eat me alive for this, but face it, most of american's don't know what that is) putting up wars? what? and compared to who?

"Having no morals"? We're known as one of the most religious countries on the planet (typical American stereotype=a flag-waving, gun-toting, Bible-quoting redneck). Not saying that you have to be religious to have morals, but if you are I would assume you have some. Either that or someone's gotta figure out which to stereotype you want to use.

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Timmons55
You got to remeber when you watch these vids, there made for entertainment perposes so there not exactly going to show all the ones who get it right and they were probley the majority. In England our education isn't too great, I go to the one of the best private schools in england but most of th people are less clever then people who go to the most deprived state schools. Every country is going to have its stupid and clever people. mean I know america isn't great but hell it still beats most countries.

im not trying to be annoying but apparantly Scotland has the best education system in britain followed closely behind by nothern ireland....i am not just saying that because i am scottish but it is apparantly so however according to PISA education authority the UK is in the top 15 best educated countries in the world so overall we arent too bad..........

 

 

ps lets keep on topic people

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DeeperRed
You got to remeber when you watch these vids, there made for entertainment perposes so there not exactly going to show all the ones who get it right and they were probley the majority. In England our education isn't too great, I go to the one of the best private schools in england but most of th people are less clever then people who go to the most deprived state schools. Every country is going to have its stupid and clever people.  mean I know america isn't great but hell it still beats most countries.

im not trying to be annoying but apparantly Scotland has the best education system in britain followed closely behind by nothern ireland....i am not just saying that because i am scottish but it is apparantly so however according to PISA education authority the UK is in the top 15 best educated countries in the world so overall we arent too bad..........

 

 

ps lets keep on topic people

I know, my school is one of the top ranked in england but it is still full of idiots, the point i wherevever you go your gonna have inteligent people and your ging to have idiots

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Timmons55
You got to remeber when you watch these vids, there made for entertainment perposes so there not exactly going to show all the ones who get it right and they were probley the majority. In England our education isn't too great, I go to the one of the best private schools in england but most of th people are less clever then people who go to the most deprived state schools. Every country is going to have its stupid and clever people.  mean I know america isn't great but hell it still beats most countries.

im not trying to be annoying but apparantly Scotland has the best education system in britain followed closely behind by nothern ireland....i am not just saying that because i am scottish but it is apparantly so however according to PISA education authority the UK is in the top 15 best educated countries in the world so overall we arent too bad..........

 

 

ps lets keep on topic people

I know, my school is one of the top ranked in england but it is still full of idiots, the point i wherevever you go your gonna have inteligent people and your ging to have idiots

yes but what i am being lead to believe is that the "stupid" in america massively outweigh the intellegent, i wouldnt believe this is true but as time goes on it becomes more appearant.

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Woody510

yes but what i am being lead to believe is that the "stupid" in america massively outweigh the intellegent, i wouldnt believe this is true but as time goes on it becomes more appearant.

no, it's true. At least in my small sphere of exsistance. There are very few intellectuals I've crossed paths with in my 20 years in america in comparison to those who I've felt to be "stupid"

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Prince Drac

@ the dude about morals. If anything I would say Europe has less moral value than the U.S does, even though I don't support alot of the U.S actions. My justification would be because alot of Europe has gone intot he idea that what is moral is deteremined by society or a person, and don't believe in an absolute universal set of morals. I'm not even religious and I'm saying this. Also Nietzchean ideas are widespread even in America now. His writings were genius but they hold no truth.

 

As for the U.S school system, it is pretty bad in alot of areas. It mostly depends on how much the teachers are willing to teach. Kids don't rush home from school to watch cartoons anymore like they used to back when I was a kid. All kids want to do now is hang outside and act like Fitty Cent. My high school had a graduation rate of only 42%. However, high school dropouts don't automatically make them idiots. Many dropouts, who realized they f*cked up in high school try to get into some college, learn what they can, and eventually transfer to a better one.

 

The college education, I feel is top notch. I'm not talking about ivy league colleges either. If anything, I noticed that city and private colleges located in the city have better education than State Universities mostly because State Universities have campus for people to party 3-4 days out of the week.

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Teqila

 

Now living in scotland i can say i know very little about the education in America so i am not going to jump to a conclusion and say it is terrible, but i would like to know.

 

Over the past few years eduction in the US has been made out as terribe, worse than countries such as Korea....But is it really this bad.

 

On youtube i find videos like these:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaN6Rx8X6_I&feature=related

 

but do all these things really show fact? is the education in america really this bad? i would like to know from you guys...

 

You do realize that those videos are meant to be humorous? They lead the people being questioned to answer incorrectly and only show you the ones that are wrong. I knew the answers to all the questions in the first video and I haven't finished school yet. In the second video, it is obvious that the statistics are false. It has been said many times that the majority of statistics are made up on the spot. You may have heard this before.

 

You have unwittingly spread propaganda. Every time someone does something like you just did, hating America becomes more popular.

 

 

 

Here, in the US, I see no overt hatred of any nation. Why hate us? What do you expect in return? Ignorance is everywhere. The worst kind of ignorance is willful. You remain ignorant so that you can continue hating without second thoughts.

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Svip

And this is why that the USA is not a superpower any more. The world is changing. And the USA have more problems at home than internationally.

 

Charity starts at home, so why not do that?

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darthYENIK
And this is why that the USA is not a superpower any more. The world is changing. And the USA have more problems at home than internationally.

 

Charity starts at home, so why not do that?

The sad thing is, most of the U.S. public doesn't realize we have problems outside of who our politicians are f*cking. They ignorantly listen to the Bush administration, selectively sifting through the garbage to listen to what they want to hear, and dismissing the "bad things".

 

One thing dismissed the most is education. Followed by economy, and political corruption (the real kind, not the type that claims Barrack Obama is Muslim, or involves semen stains on blue dresses).

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BuffaloSoldier

Ask me any of those questions and I could answer all of them. I bet for every silly ass answers, there were 50 right answers.

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mufc

Accourding to my geography teacher the scottish education system is better than the english one.

 

 

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Timmons55
Now living in scotland i can say i know very little about the education in America so i am not going to jump to a conclusion and say it is terrible, but i would like to know.

 

Over the past few years eduction in the US has been made out as terribe, worse than countries such as Korea....But is it really this bad.

 

On youtube i find videos like these:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaN6Rx8X6_I&feature=related

 

but do all these things really show fact? is the education in america really this bad? i would like to know from you guys...

 

You do realize that those videos are meant to be humorous? They lead the people being questioned to answer incorrectly and only show you the ones that are wrong. I knew the answers to all the questions in the first video and I haven't finished school yet. In the second video, it is obvious that the statistics are false. It has been said many times that the majority of statistics are made up on the spot. You may have heard this before.

 

You have unwittingly spread propaganda. Every time someone does something like you just did, hating America becomes more popular.

 

 

 

Here, in the US, I see no overt hatred of any nation. Why hate us? What do you expect in return? Ignorance is everywhere. The worst kind of ignorance is willful. You remain ignorant so that you can continue hating without second thoughts.

i get the impression that you think i dislike america when in truth its the opposite which is why i was in disbelief. i started this topic because i spent some time in america as an assitant teacher of english for kids in high school and i have to say i was shocked at the number of them that didnt know the uk was a country within the continent of Europe confused.gif

 

i made this topic becuase i want to here what it is like from you guys....

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Timmons55
Accourding to my geography teacher the scottish education system is better than the english one.

according to statistics it is aswell but as already said statistics arent always stonewall fact....

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