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Soviet-Sicko

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Soviet-Sicko

Schools Are So Stupid And Corrupt Nowadays, It's Not About Learning, It's About Who Can Skrew The Slutty Tramp That Everyone Thinks Is Beautiful, Or Who Can Lob A f*ckin' Ball The Farthest Down A Field, It Makes Me Sick, While Any Person That Thinks Differently Gets Ridiculed, Outcasted, Or Beaten Up, And What Does The Faculty Do About It? Absolutely Nothing!

 

It's Always, "Oh, You'll Be Okay" Or "Stop Trying To Bring Attention To Yourself" Or My Favorite "You Did That To Yourself! Stop Trying To Get People In Trouble."

 

Recently I Got Kicked Out Of My School For Defending Myself, I Was The Most Picked On Kid At My School, I Would Get Insulted Or Beaten Up Almost Every Day All For The Fact That I Was Gay.

 

One Day, A Guy On The Football Team Started To Say Alot Of Really Terrible Things About Me And The Person I Was Going Out With, Then He Swung At Me, He Hit Me In The Mouth, So I Kicked Him In The Throat, He Then Jumped On Me and Proceeded To Choke Me Until I Was Blue, THEN A Teacher Broke It Up, He Was Given A 1-Week Suspension, I Was Kicked Out, They Said I Started It, Then Assaulted Him, And Of Course, Noone Took My Side, They Were Either Too Scared, Or Were Avid Sports Fans.

 

Now That I'm Gone, They've Started Beating Up My Friends And Lover, All Because Of Me... I Can Barely Stand To Pass By The School Anymore, If They See Me They Still Ridicule Me, Occasionally Throw A Few Punches And Kicks My Way, And Every Day My Friends And Lover Seem To Get Beaten Worse.... I Just Don't Know What To Do.... Everyone's Against Me, The School, Students, The Cops, The Churches, Everyone....

 

Does Anyone Have Any Advice?

I Don't Have any Idea What To Do Anymore....

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iv123

So you judge all schools just by your one school that is apparently "Schools Are So Stupid And Corrupt Nowadays?" Sounds pretty ridiculous..

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Soviet-Sicko

 

So you judge all schools just by your one school that is apparently "Schools Are So Stupid And Corrupt Nowadays?"  Sounds pretty ridiculous..

Well I'm not trying To discuss exactly "all Schools are useless", I'm trying to address horrible bullying and abuse that goes on in far too many schools.

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iv123
So you judge all schools just by your one school that is apparently "Schools Are So Stupid And Corrupt Nowadays?"  Sounds pretty ridiculous..

Well I'm not trying To discuss exactly "all Schools are useless", I'm trying to address horrible bullying and abuse that goes on in far too many schools.

What, are you saying it's worse today? How do you know? Have you attended thousands of schools? At least have statistics.

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nlitement

Perhaps in Soviet Russia, but not at my school.

 

EDIT: oic, you're from Texas. Honestly, California's probably a better choice if you want to be openly gay. Or a less rural Texas setting.

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Schools Are So Stupid And Corrupt Nowadays, It's Not About Learning...

Apparently not. rolleyes.gif

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Struff Bunstridge
So you judge all schools just by your one school that is apparently "Schools Are So Stupid And Corrupt Nowadays?"  Sounds pretty ridiculous..

Well I'm not trying To discuss exactly "all Schools are useless", I'm trying to address horrible bullying and abuse that goes on in far too many schools.

What, are you saying it's worse today? How do you know? Have you attended thousands of schools? At least have statistics.

Hey, don't be a dick, did you even read his post? I think it's pretty common knowledge that school is generally a sh*tty place to be, particularly if you're gay. It's not like you actually need statistics to be aware of that fact. Incidentally, what kind of statistics would satisfy you? I'm sure we could find some, if you specify what you want.

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Soviet-Sicko
So you judge all schools just by your one school that is apparently "Schools Are So Stupid And Corrupt Nowadays?"  Sounds pretty ridiculous..

Well I'm not trying To discuss exactly "all Schools are useless", I'm trying to address horrible bullying and abuse that goes on in far too many schools.

What, are you saying it's worse today? How do you know? Have you attended thousands of schools? At least have statistics.

Hey, don't be a dick, did you even read his post? I think it's pretty common knowledge that school is generally a sh*tty place to be, particularly if you're gay. It's not like you actually need statistics to be aware of that fact. Incidentally, what kind of statistics would satisfy you? I'm sure we could find some, if you specify what you want.

Thank You, So Far You Seem To Be The Only Person That's Really Read My Post, And Not Just Spammed About My Typing Habit, Or Been A Total D*ck.

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ILovePolarBears

My initial advice would have been to not be openly gay in high school, but I suppose it's too late for that.

 

Texas is a tough place to be gay. An older friend of mine (now in her early thirties) grew up gay in a rural Texas town and she has some very unpleasant stories about those times; both in her school, and her community. It is my understanding that some parts of Texas can still be very unaccepting of gays and lesbians.

 

Keep your chin up. Be proud of who you are. And move away as soon as you can, perhaps making your escape by going to college out of state. You'll find that college communities are very cool about people being different, and most regions in general are a lot more open-minded than Texas, especially over here on the west coast. I don't think anyone really cares here in Portland and if they do, they're usually older folks you never really interact with.

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Struff Bunstridge

Soviet-Sicko, are you old enough to be going away to college soon, as ILovePolarBears said? If so, do it. You'll have a blast, if it's anything the university scene here in England, and you'll find so many people who'll offer you the support you might need. For now, all you can really do is tough it out I'm afraid mate, at least until you're old enough to get away.

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Soviet-Sicko
Soviet-Sicko, are you old enough to be going away to college soon, as ILovePolarBears said? If so, do it. You'll have a blast, if it's anything the university scene here in England, and you'll find so many people who'll offer you the support you might need. For now, all you can really do is tough it out I'm afraid mate, at least until you're old enough to get away.

well, Not Really Soon, But Close Enough, Hopefully I Do Find People Who Will Give Me Some Kind Of Support In College. ^_^

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derty

If you're still school age, you aren't even old enough to know you're gay.

 

Also, you live in times when Gay is not accepted, so yes, you did this to yourself. All gay crimes are self inflicted. Pride is the most punishable sin. Gay Pride is a self-destruction tactic planted into the gay community.

 

I have gay friends, and they will tell you the same as they tell me: It's rare to be accepted for who you are, let alone when you are a gay.

 

Basically, by being "open" or in other words "being PROUD" you got what one should expect.

 

It is pride that gets us in trouble in life more than ANYTHING else, and this is not a good decade to be proud you're gay. As you painfully see. I'm sorry God or whoever didn't have the foresight to birth you in a time where people will appreciate you for you, but the people at school saw a scary gay person and cleaned it up. Simple as that. If you have rights in your country for this sort of thing, NOW is the time to FIGHT it. Don't sit down. Or else you let it happen to other people who deserve freedom of choice as much as you.

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If you're still school age, you aren't even old enough to know you're gay.

 

Also, you live in times when Gay is not accepted, so yes, you did this to yourself. All gay crimes are self inflicted. Pride is the most punishable sin. Gay Pride is a self-destruction tactic planted into the gay community.

 

I have gay friends, and they will tell you the same as they tell me: It's rare to be accepted for who you are, let alone when you are a gay.

 

Basically, by being "open" or in other words "being PROUD" you got what one should expect.

 

It is pride that gets us in trouble in life more than ANYTHING else, and this is not a good decade to be proud you're gay. As you painfully see. I'm sorry God or whoever didn't have the foresight to birth you in a time where people will appreciate you for you, but the people at school saw a scary gay person and cleaned it up. Simple as that. If you have rights in your country for this sort of thing, NOW is the time to FIGHT it. Don't sit down. Or else you let it happen to other people who deserve freedom of choice as much as you.

I don't know about America but over here being gay is pretty much accepted anywhere, which is quite impresive considering that any act of homosexuality was illegal till '91. I know atleast 6 gay people in my school and noone give 2 sh*ts to be honest. As far as I'm aware its also accepted in most of Europe and Australia. I think this is more of an American problem then a Global one.

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If you're still school age, you aren't even old enough to know you're gay.

 

Also, you live in times when Gay is not accepted, so yes, you did this to yourself. All gay crimes are self inflicted. Pride is the most punishable sin. Gay Pride is a self-destruction tactic planted into the gay community.

 

I have gay friends, and they will tell you the same as they tell me: It's rare to be accepted for who you are, let alone when you are a gay.

 

Basically, by being "open" or in other words "being PROUD" you got what one should expect.

 

It is pride that gets us in trouble in life more than ANYTHING else, and this is not a good decade to be proud you're gay. As you painfully see. I'm sorry God or whoever didn't have the foresight to birth you in a time where people will appreciate you for you, but the people at school saw a scary gay person and cleaned it up. Simple as that. If you have rights in your country for this sort of thing, NOW is the time to FIGHT it. Don't sit down. Or else you let it happen to other people who deserve freedom of choice as much as you.

Oh good god, that's the one of the single most ridiculous post I think I've ever read.

 

School age (here anyway) covers 5-18yr olds, I think you'll find most people have a good idea of their sexuality by the age of 11 or 12, I know I did and I could name countless others who did also. That's not to say there aren't people whose sexuality swings or people who experiment at a young age, but how incredibly patronising and rich of you to tell someone that they don't know themself.

 

It may be rare to be accepted for who you are, but that sure as hell doesn't condone it or make it right. Let's also note your fine politically correct reference to him as "a gay", now no doubt I'll get shot down for being a PC-liberalist by saying this, but you're not "a gay": you're "gay" or a "gay person" - the point is that sexuality is a part of who someone is, it's not the person itself.

 

I think you fail to understand the whole "gay pride" thing, though I'll confess I'm not a fan of the rubbing it in everyone's faces thing and some of the parades myself. The point is, people shouldn't be prejudiced for their sexuality, it shouldn't matter to people, it should be a case of "I'm gay", "Oh right".. idealistic world admittedly. The thing that is worth celebrating is diversity, everyone is different and that's something people should embrace, not reject.

 

This is not a good decade to be proud you're gay? It's probably the best decade in the past 300 years for it I think you'll find, far from perfect, but we're making progress.

 

He didn't do anything to himself, other than fight back - that, by the way, was a mistake.

 

Back to the main point: schools aren't useless, and mistakes will be made and the wrong people will inevitably be punished sometimes. Not that that's going to make you feel any better, it's just a sad reality. Schools do seem to be particularly poor at treating homophobic hate crimes seriously however, whereas racism and sexism are generally taken more seriously. It'll be some years yet before homophobia reaches the level of being socially unacceptable that it should be. My generation, once they've reached a mature age, seem to be particularly accepting of sexuality though - only going on my own experiences there.

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Quadropheniac90

Where I live people love gay people. Well maybe not more than other people but the average person doesn't think of gay people as less or anything.

 

At school this might be less the case, but that's I think because those people are so insecure they need to prove themselves to others, and if that requires gaybashing, they're willing to. And that assumption I based on nothing at all, I have to admit.

 

@Derty: That's a rather pessimistic view of the world... I do somewhat agree with people not accepting/embracing difference, but that's not the case with most people, that'd be generalising it.

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ILovePolarBears
If you're still school age, you aren't even old enough to know you're gay.

 

Also, you live in times when Gay is not accepted, so yes, you did this to yourself. All gay crimes are self inflicted. Pride is the most punishable sin. Gay Pride is a self-destruction tactic planted into the gay community.

 

I have gay friends, and they will tell you the same as they tell me: It's rare to be accepted for who you are, let alone when you are a gay.

 

Basically, by being "open" or in other words "being PROUD" you got what one should expect.

 

It is pride that gets us in trouble in life more than ANYTHING else, and this is not a good decade to be proud you're gay. As you painfully see. I'm sorry God or whoever didn't have the foresight to birth you in a time where people will appreciate you for you, but the people at school saw a scary gay person and cleaned it up. Simple as that. If you have rights in your country for this sort of thing, NOW is the time to FIGHT it. Don't sit down. Or else you let it happen to other people who deserve freedom of choice as much as you.

I don't know about you, but I knew which gender I liked in middle school, when I first started having feelings of attraction. Someone like you could've told me otherwise, but that wouldn't have invalidated my certainty, nor the fact that it turned out to be correct.

 

Gay crimes are far from self-inflicted. Running around waiving flags is perhaps a bit over the top (then, who are you to judge?), but homosexual couples should be able to express their affection for one another in public, just as heterosexual couples can. They should be able to talk openly about the people they're interested in "Oooh, he/she is cute!" just as heterosexuals can.

 

I could go on and on, but to say that because someone is openly gay they're sinfully proud is profoundly obnoxious.

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Well if you live in the sticks or some place that is what civilized people would call "hick" then you aren't going to get sympathy from anybody.

 

I think you probably get picked on because you are gay. If you live in some rural area then it would make sense that teachers and bla bla bla don't care.

 

If indeed you live in a rural area then you would know how important football is to them and they would probably pass a failing student if he were the star football player who's addicted to cocaine and taking steroids. Other than wheat crops and football they got nothing.

 

This is life. Corruption is everywhere. If your family doesn't support your sexuality then I'm sorry you are in such a sh*tty situation but you could get yourself emancipated and leave. My friend did that when he was 15 and he made it through. It was tough as hell for him to get by but it was better than his home life.

 

Life is a bitch man. And you don't have the worst life believe it or not.

 

And if you don't live in a rural area then I think your being dramatic which is likely considering you are a teenager.

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Soviet-Sicko, I think you're right about bullying going on in far too many schools and by the way how the hell did you get the cops on you?!? You don't have to answer that! biggrin.gif

I have read your post in great detail and studied nearly every word. I have been in the same situation as you lots of times before and I think that your opponent is the person in the wrong, and so are the teachers.

Are you going to a better school now are is it just the same? Tell me and and if it's still the same I might be able to do something about it!

 

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Are you going to a better school now are is it just the same? Tell me and and if it's still the same I might be able to do something about it!

I'm not going to comment on the situation as I have no idea what it's like.

 

But I am wondering what exactly you can "do" about it? Is there some sort of support underground or what?

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The Unvirginiser

School's are awful! The staff know whats happening but do nothing and bring misery to some chirldren!

I was suspended for fighting because I smashed a bully one for putting my mate on the floor.

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I live in Texas also (in the suburbs of Dallas) and I hate it here for the simple fact that everyone is narrow-minded. If you're gay, you're laughed at or made fun of. If you're not Christian, you're weird. If you're not Texan, you're inferior to the rest of us. I know exactly what you mean about the school system, and it's bullsh*t.

 

Thankfully I will be going off to college in about a year, and I will be going out of state. What's ridiculous is that my girlfriend's family doesn't like me anymore for the fact that I want to leave Texas. Almost every Texan is so egotistical and "I'm better than you", enough so that they've given my home state a bad name.

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Stefan.

Dude, that sucks. I really feel sorry for you.

 

I think it's a shame what the world is coming too. I, personally, am a heterosexual, and I cannot stand the sight of a male naked, nor can I imagine him, but that's just me. Yet, despite me finding it disgusting and wrong, I can't just take that into account and treat someone differently. That's what I hate the most; narrow-mindedness.

 

I'd consider myself to be open-minded. My school doesn't have many homosexuals, but there is a kid in my class who is bisexual. Surprisingly, nobody bags him that much. Although, in Australia, the word 'gay' or 'fa**ot' is used to describe something that's bad, not something that's gay.

 

My advice to you is that to stand up for yourself; no matter what crap someone gives to you, never believe that you are wrong, because you are always right. You might not change people's thinking, but at least they know that you have guts and balls.

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Hug?

 

Its alright, thats basically you stereotypical jock. You should really just go f*ck up his house.

 

We had a few gay's at our school, and some people teased them but thats because they DID try to bring attention to themselves, it was ridiculous. One got kicked out for molesting a kid in grade 8, and the other left because he tried to take advantage of the fact that he was gay to get out of trouble. I have nothing wrong with gay people who treat everyone equally and don't look down on anyone, hell, I'm friends with one and I let him sit on my lap.

 

~Phusion

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tuareg

It's pretty clear that you didn't care to avoid being seen by others with your boyfriend, wich doesn't mean that you're the one responsible for it, but being gay yourself, you should know how discriminitive people are like towards homosexuals. I'm really sorry to say this, but you really just brought it on yourself. I can tell you right now by looking at your profile that you're proud of being gay. There shouldn't be any problem with that, but todays society still doesn't supprt people who are different.

 

 

You don't know how people will react to it, so i'd just keep it to myself.

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Quadropheniac90

So basically because he is proud of himself he could have expected it? No man, that's a stupid excuse for being hit. Even if that's the case, the guys responsible should still be expelled or any other fitting punishment.

 

Heterosexuals don't keep their sexuality to themselves either, so why should gay people? Sheesh...

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Don't dumb my post down. You're talking about being gay like it was 100% normal.

 

It's good that he's proud of it (i don't see why most gay people feel proud of being gay, to be honest), but people aren't accepting in most places. It's bascially like being prepared for the worst. As long as you're not sure what the reaction will be, you should hide it. And it's a shame that it's still like this today, but what could you do? You don't run around kissing a guy, because the least

that can happen is you getting beaten. It can get much much worse.

 

As much as i don't have anything against gay people, being straight IS normal to todays society.

The reason heterosexuals don't keep their sexual orientation to themselves is pretty simple, it's accepted, when on the other hand, if two guys kiss, people will mostly look at them in a bad way. That's the first reaction it puts, however bad it is.

 

And well yeah, they should have been expelled, that's true. But it's probably better this way.

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Schools Are So Stupid And Corrupt Nowadays, It's Not About Learning, It's About Who Can Skrew The Slutty Tramp That Everyone Thinks Is Beautiful, Or Who Can Lob A f*ckin' Ball The Farthest Down A Field, It Makes Me Sick, While Any Person That Thinks Differently Gets Ridiculed, Outcasted, Or Beaten Up, And What Does The Faculty Do About It? Absolutely Nothing!

 

It's Always, "Oh, You'll Be Okay" Or "Stop Trying To Bring Attention To Yourself" Or My Favorite "You Did That To Yourself! Stop Trying To Get People In Trouble."

 

Recently I Got Kicked Out Of My School For Defending Myself, I Was The Most Picked On Kid At My School, I Would Get Insulted Or Beaten Up Almost Every Day All For The Fact That I Was Gay.

 

One Day, A Guy On The Football Team Started To Say Alot Of Really Terrible Things About Me And The Person I Was Going Out With, Then He Swung At Me, He Hit Me In The Mouth, So I Kicked Him In The Throat, He Then Jumped On Me and Proceeded To Choke Me Until I Was Blue, THEN A Teacher Broke It Up, He Was Given A 1-Week Suspension, I Was Kicked Out, They Said I Started It, Then Assaulted Him, And Of Course, Noone Took My Side, They Were Either Too Scared, Or Were Avid Sports Fans.

 

Now That I'm Gone, They've Started Beating Up My Friends And Lover, All Because Of Me... I Can Barely Stand To Pass By The School Anymore, If They See Me They Still Ridicule Me, Occasionally Throw A Few Punches And Kicks My Way, And Every Day My Friends And Lover Seem To Get Beaten Worse.... I Just Don't Know What To Do.... Everyone's Against Me, The School, Students, The Cops, The Churches, Everyone....

 

Does Anyone Have Any Advice?

I Don't Have any Idea What To Do Anymore....

Not all schools are like that.

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Mike Tequeli

You get sh*t like this with zero tolerance programs on violence, the victim often gets punished the same as the bully, which is unfair. My problem with schooling today is the inability to look at a situation logically and with an open mind. I bet the teachers are all homophobic though, all my teachers were bible thumpers and I'm guessing that in Texas it is no different.

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So you judge all schools just by your one school that is apparently "Schools Are So Stupid And Corrupt Nowadays?"  Sounds pretty ridiculous..

Well I'm not trying To discuss exactly "all Schools are useless", I'm trying to address horrible bullying and abuse that goes on in far too many schools.

What, are you saying it's worse today? How do you know? Have you attended thousands of schools? At least have statistics.

Hey, don't be a dick, did you even read his post? I think it's pretty common knowledge that school is generally a sh*tty place to be, particularly if you're gay. It's not like you actually need statistics to be aware of that fact. Incidentally, what kind of statistics would satisfy you? I'm sure we could find some, if you specify what you want.

Thank You, So Far You Seem To Be The Only Person That's Really Read My Post, And Not Just Spammed About My Typing Habit, Or Been A Total D*ck.

Count me in too. It is true that a lot of schools have gone down the sh*tter in the past few years and have been un-reliable places to send your kids to knowing that two kids will not come in with shotguns and kill a bunch of teachers and students, or stab another student to death with a knife, or smuggle mass amounts of marijuana to their "home dogs".

 

Texas is the worst place to be a gay. Most of them are anti-gay, Bush loving, Republicans who are too stubborn to see anyone elses point of views whatsoever. Go to school in California. They are more acceptant of gay people then they are down south.

 

 

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Heterosexuals don't keep their sexuality to themselves either, so why should gay people? Sheesh...

If I can fit it in thats going in my signature icon14.gif

 

Go to school in California. They are more acceptant of gay people then they are down south.
I doubt that is an option for him, and doesn't California have the highest gang population in America? If they kill you for wearing the wrong colours I'm sure they won't be to accepting of homosexuality either.

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