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Jesus'En'Hitler420

Now that the people in power of the U.S have taken it upon themselves to make the government bigger in light of "terrorism", when will you start revolting to gain your independence back?

 

People today seem to believe what the U.S government is going to do is good for us. I don't understand this one bit. We have many government implemented policies in place that have all but failed. Government spending is driving this nation into backruptcy, and all the common people support is a couple of candidates who believe spending even more will solve the problem. How ass backwards is that thinking?

 

Me and my friends discuss when should the time be to start the revolution? The time to bring down all the born into wealth monkeys owning huge businesses (Actually fooling themselves into believing they deserve the wealth handed to them), time to bring down the mass media that has convinced so many citizens that we are dependant on government for survival, bring down the Fed that has a stranglehold over our money. They don't even teach us any survival skills in our public school system, for f*cks sake!

 

We have the Freedom of Information Act, but when you request a document that's supposed to be up to date, it's filled with blocked out sentences that probalbly have information pertaining to the real truth behind the matter. What the f*ck are we getting ourselves in to here?

 

So when will I start my revolution? The 1st Amendment is very important indeed, but I have yet seen free speech beat the gun, especially when not only the army will always be supplied with guns (Which will no doubtedly be used against us), but also have huge tactical missles that can blow cities to smitherines. If the government indeed has the agenda of taking over the public and disbanding all rights, the government will come for our LEGALLY OWNED GUNS IMMEDIATELY, as they would be our only means to fight back. We already today see many laws against the 2nd amendment being passed, one such law mentions so many automatic pistols by specific names. So, they are already legislating the amount of firepower we can legally own, so when will the day finally come when they want to take away all your guns? That, my fellow forumers, is the day I will begin the revolution.

 

The man with the gun, always has had the freest of speech.

 

What key point in the future would spark your fury for revolution, fellow Americans?

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A revolution by citizens would do nothing. All it would do is cause mass chaos and anarchy, with millions of citizens dying, our government is just too strong.

I personal feel I have enough freedom, they have hindered on me in any way, even with the new acts that have gone through. I could really give a sh*t less if they're listening to my calls and stuff. I'm not breaking the law, they don't release personal information... what's to worry about?

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A revolution by citizens would do nothing. All it would do is cause mass chaos and anarchy, with millions of citizens dying, our government is just too strong.

I personal feel I have enough freedom, they have hindered on me in any way, even with the new acts that have gone through. I could really give a sh*t less if they're listening to my calls and stuff. I'm not breaking the law, they don't release personal information... what's to worry about?

I wouldn't want anyone listening in on my phone calls.

 

They may not be releasing personal information now, but what makes you think they won't do it in the future?

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A revolution by citizens would do nothing. All it would do is cause mass chaos and anarchy, with millions of citizens dying, our government is just too strong.

I personal feel I have enough freedom, they have hindered on me in any way, even with the new acts that have gone through. I could really give a sh*t less if they're listening to my calls and stuff. I'm not breaking the law, they don't release personal information... what's to worry about?

See, it's people like you, you people filled with nothing but apathy, that is the root of letting our government get this big. If less people thought that way, or lack thereof rather, then there'd be a lot more opposition to the sh*t that's going on in the country. You don't care that strangers are listening in on your personal conversations, with loved ones and close friends? That's f*cking frightening. So what, you're going to just let sh*t happen and let the government have its way with you and your freedom? That's really disparaging. There is a line, and people need to know where that line is, and need to keep the government from crossing it. They already have, in my books.

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http://progunleaders.org/johnson.html

http://progunleaders.org/resolution.html

 

http://www.freestateproject.org/

 

http://middleburyinstitute.org/secessionconvention2006.html

http://middleburyinstitute.org/secessionconvention2007.html

 

http://www.texasnationalist.com/independence/index.php

http://www.independentca.org/

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullification

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act#S..._non-compliance

 

Not sure which rock you've been living under - there's lots of things going on and lots of movements out there that are gaining momentum. If the Heller decision hits the fan, several states will have nothing to do but cause a circus. Even if it doesn't, REAL ID is going to cause a sh*tstorm when residents in the noncompliant states will have to carry a passport around just to go to another state or go into the f'in USPS office, effectively becoming second-class citizens. Then there's the upcoming economical recession which at best will just serve to bring the populace to the boiling point and at worst turn the entire country into Katrina-NO.

 

I don't think things will deteriorate linearly much longer before something happens one way or the other.

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Soap box, ballot box, jury box, and cartridge box; they are to be used in that order.

 

While things have been sliding downhill for the last 70 or 80 years, it's not time to hit the panic button just yet. Well, maybe it is, but if you can't find enough pissed off people to vote fascists out of office and stuff, it would probably be hard to organize a revolution.

 

If (or when) they try to take the soap box away via things like the "fairness doctrine" and general censorship, start canceling elections, totally disregarding judicial review (i.e., martial law), and come for your guns, then you open your cartridge box and turn them in one at a time. For now, it's still something of a game of chess..

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brb guys moving to england

He's got the right idea. I'd rather jump ship than mutiny. Although Australia sounds better to me...

Picolini is now Pico

 

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Jesus'En'Hitler420

I'd also like to throw this quote in concerning the way the country and populace is acting towards terrorism and our governments actions, mainly directed at Picolini and anyone else who chooses to be careless.

 

"A society willing to give up liberty for security deserves none and gets neither." -Benjamin Franklin.

 

I agree wholeheartedly with Ben on this one and I also believe the second amendment was put in to our Bill of Rights because our founders knew that the standing armies will have guns and the controlled populace will either have or have not. They knew if we did not have guns, we are susceptible to the same ordinary people, like us, who are only paid to fight for the wrong side and crush the free. We all know if the people with the actual intentions fought with their hands for thier cause, they'd be f*cked hard.

 

edit***- Moving to other countries won't help in the long run if the problem isn't crushed in America first, and these same people probalbly already have people influencing other countries, too. One man can stick his nose anywhere nowadays.

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brb guys moving to england

He's got the right idea. I'd rather jump ship than mutiny. Although Australia sounds better to me...

Australia and the UK are both further down the slippery slope than we are. As it stands, you already need government approval down under to publish books/movies/etc.. Unless their new plans are stopped, by this time next year you'll need approval from the government censors to speak on a website, and they'll have mandatory internet filters in place to block information they don't like. After that, it's only a hop, skip, and a jump from the repression found in China or Myanmar.

 

England is so far gone into nanny state la la land, they don't even trust the subjects with fire extinguishers any more..

 

 

I agree wholeheartedly with Ben on this one and I also believe the second amendment was put in to our Bill of Rights because our founders knew that the standing armies will have guns and the controlled populace will either have or have not. They knew if we did not have guns, we are susceptible to the same ordinary people, like us, who are only paid to fight for the wrong side and crush the free. We all know if the people with the actual intentions fought with their hands for thier cause, they'd be f*cked hard.

 

Judge Kozinski from the 9th Circuit Court agreed and said it quite nicely:

 

 

The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed — where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.
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When will people revolt? When there's a real reason to. How close are we to finding such reason? Contrary to that which disaffected college students will tell you; a very, very long way from it.

 

Look elsewhere in the world. Take Russia for example, where Putin's Kremlin afforded few liberties (and where Medvedev's is unlikely to be any less oppressive). The people have little say. Media is state controlled. And yet, Russians are generally content with it, because their lives are so much better than they were after the Soviet Union collapsed under Yeltsin. Or China, where Bejing is taking water from rual farmers to support the upcoming Olympic games, and yet the farmers tend to agree with it, knowing that their state's needs come before their own.

 

Are our constitutional civil liberties under attack by our own government? To some degree, sure. But revolt? Don't be daft. We live in one of the freest, most privileged societies in the world (if not the most, outright), a society that others generally look upon with either envy, or disgust. We have so much and yet for some reason, we're still not content; always whining about something. Talking about revolt? Give me a break. No wonder people in other countries can't stand us.

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When will people revolt? When there's a real reason to. How close are we to finding such reason? Contrary to that which disaffected college students will tell you; a very, very long way from it.

 

Look elsewhere in the world. Take Russia for example, where Putin's Kremlin afforded few liberties (and where Medvedev's is unlikely to be any less oppressive). The people have little say. Media is state controlled. And yet, Russians are generally content with it, because their lives are so much better than they were after the Soviet Union collapsed under Yeltsin. Or China, where Bejing is taking water from rual farmers to support the upcoming Olympic games, and yet the farmers tend to agree with it, knowing that their state's needs come before their own.

 

Are our constitutional civil liberties under attack by our own government? To some degree, sure. But revolt? Don't be daft. We live in one of the freest, most privileged societies in the world (if not the most, outright), a society that others generally look upon with either envy, or disgust. We have so much and yet for some reason, we're still not content; always whining about something. Talking about revolt? Give me a break. No wonder people in other countries can't stand us.

I think other countries hate us because we are putting up with this.

 

I would rather be poor and free rather than basicly being a rich slave.

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Any flames of revolution are often quenched too quickly for people to even realize, that, they are in fact mechanisms of revolution. There's a great common feeling that, people are apathetic, or just too content with the status quo in the United States to really do anything. This just isn't the case. Unfortunately, many of the organizations that skip straight to the cartridge box ( thanks to illspirit for that apt description of this whole process ), are usually ones that hold ideals that don't coincide with a great majority of the rest of the public, and simply do not garner any support. You can put people that are members of socialist movements under this umbrella. Here you have Americans, that everyday are calling for revolution, often violent revolution, but they're simply not considered when people think about Americans rising up. I think the big reason for this of course, is that no one wants to stand up and cheer for what these people are doing ( because most consider what they're doing to be wrong ), and the American public, already disapproving of what they've done, can easily be manipulated to see these types of acts not as revolutions, not as uprisings from people who feel it needs to be done, but acts of "terrorism" or "evil". The bottom line is that, the people who are unhappy in America, and are rising up and revolting, aren't in the spotlight as doing so. One man's revolution, is just another man's mass-killing.

 

That's just speaking on violent revolution, however. If you're so ignorant as to completely ignore the forms of revolution that are being made through law, and through the democratic system, I just don't feel you have a right to comment. The problem once again, is that these types of movements are often just pushed aside, or under the rug, and do not garner any support. Just to bring in a rather hairy example, police brutality is a huge issue that we've been doing this with for years. There are groups all over the country that still feel the effects of police brutality, and yet, the large majority of the nation does not deal with this, and so their movements can and usually are just disregarded as something other than what they are: People trying to stand up, and accomplish what they feel right. In the end, that's really all a revolution is.

 

I think at the bottom line, the reason it's not going to happen, is the very reason why America has so many people clamoring for revolution in the first place. There is just such a large demographic of people here, that one issue that's important enough to one group to make them consider any forum of change, will largely be ignored by all others who are too concerned with their own issues, who are just too apathetic to care, or too ignorant of others issues.

 

What I think is the saddest fact of all, is that, most of the issues that are considered by most people to need some type of "revolution" to address, are issues that we've been trying to address for decades. Racism, police brutality, drug-law reform, free speech, privacy. We've been at constant odds since at least the 60's with all of these issues, and in truth, there has always been someone leading some kind of revolution against the current status quo, for as long as they've been issues. However, to think that we'll ever be united in one issue, to ever even be noticed in a mass of such ignorant, apathetic, and frankly trained people, is just a pipe dream.

 

Meh, the more I read myself speaking on the subject, the more I feel like our society is literally to the point of operating in some kind of "1984" Orwellian fashion, and the more and more it becomes like that, the less and less aware of it we are.

 

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ILovePolarBears
I think other countries hate us because we are putting up with this.

 

I would rather be poor and free rather than basicly being a rich slave.

I genuinely hope you will try living in other countries. Perhaps then you will gain the perspective to appreciate how free you are in this nation.

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brb guys moving to england

He's got the right idea. I'd rather jump ship than mutiny. Although Australia sounds better to me...

Better yet, Canada. wink.gif

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Eh, Govn't hasn't hindered me at all (save child labor laws stopping me from getting a job). and at that note, i wouldn't anyway because that would get me in trouble, and i avoid trouble. it gives me a good rep.

 

Plus i'm a wimp in the first place.

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Lol. Let's all jump ship! Then they are just going to get their claws in that government, then in the next government you run to, until finally all the world is developed to the point the U.S is, there is nowhere to run.

 

@Sag- Yes, there is a lot of "different" people, listening to "different" things, and all these people dealing with "different" problems, but one need look no further for the big problem, that leads to all the other silly problems, is our government regulated public education system.

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brb guys moving to england

He's got the right idea. I'd rather jump ship than mutiny. Although Australia sounds better to me...

Better yet, Canada. wink.gif

no, japan!

 

anyways, no one is going to revolt aginst the U.S. goverment, it does have some problems but it's not the worst in the world.

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No one has really answered the question, is when will you revolt?

 

The fact is we can see it coming. There's a lot of you that just look at it as is, but no one's asking what is going to happen if current right denying legislations keeps getting passed without your input.

 

So, lets say if the U.S government says we'll put an RFID chip in you and everyone to track all movements and that's meant to prevent terrorism. Are you seriously not going to think, what else can they use this implanted chip for?

 

Don't call me crazy, cause it's highly probable that this is the way it will end up, since now the U.S has already called for the RealID cards. The U.S government knows though, that cards can be lost and stolen, so the RFID chip will be the ultimate follow up to the RealID card.

 

In my opinion, if the 2nd amendment isn't wiped out first, then the RealID card should be the call for the revolution.

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when will you revolt?

When they try to make us wear barcodes with the number 666.

 

That's when.

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brb guys moving to england

He's got the right idea. I'd rather jump ship than mutiny. Although Australia sounds better to me...

Better yet, Canada. wink.gif

If you'd been paying attention you'd know Canada is already part of the USA/North American Union, whatever you want to call it.

 

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brb guys moving to england

He's got the right idea. I'd rather jump ship than mutiny. Although Australia sounds better to me...

Better yet, Canada. wink.gif

Nah, you might as well call us America Jr.

 

 

Australia it is, then.

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brb guys moving to england

He's got the right idea. I'd rather jump ship than mutiny. Although Australia sounds better to me...

Better yet, Canada. wink.gif

Nah, you might as well call us America Jr.

 

 

Australia it is, then.

OH THE IRONY!

 

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Well that was pretty lame.

I tried and I failed. The moral of the story is; Never try.

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if america's going down the rest of the world is comin with us!

 

AMERICA!! BUDWEISER!! EAGLES!! TOBY KEITH!!! AMERICAAAAAAAAAAA!! AHHHH-MERRRRR-I-CAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

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TOBY KEITH!!!

*rage*

 

RRAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGHHH

 

 

 

 

...Anyway, conspiracy theories aside. The way I see it is that a lot of us don't realize how good we have it in America until you see how bad some other countries have it (compared to us, anyway). I think someone else already mentioned this earlier in the thread. I'm proud to be American as long as there are no guys running amok outside with AK-47's and machine guns.

 

Still, I want to go to England. Sadface.

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No one has really answered the question, is when will you revolt?

The answer is: We already are, there's just no real impact.

 

If you're expecting some kind of united front, then just forget about it.

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