crackdawg Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 If R* is taken over QuanticDream will be the only other game studio that makes intriguing games, and not some sports garbage, or cartoon characters running around villages playing with little squeaky things. Reakktor and Bethesa(?) studios are also good, but there games are ether strictly PC or med evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starion Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Bioware is a good studio as well. Probably the only one I'll really follow after Rockstar. Oh, and Infinity Ward. mod it with Nitrous Oxide and chassis dyno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR1990 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 There hard work is going to be destroyed by chicken hawk bible salesmen whose bigoted ideals will be made the bottom line through all media. There own gods literature even disagrees with them. EA's not as puritanical as you think they are. They've published plenty of M-rated games before - hell, one of them was a GTA clone based off of The Godfather trilogy. They've come a long way from the days where they canceled Thrill Kill just weeks before it was supposed to come out. You must have been thinking of Wal-Mart. No, the real concern here isn't that they'll tone down the violence in GTA, but that they'll commercialize it by pumping out a new version every year and plastering it with ads. I must say that I'm concerned about the first part, as EA is notorious for rushed development schedules. However, they've allowed Maxis to flourish with little interference, and they even allowed Mercenaries 2 to be delayed so that it would be completed. Besides, the name "Grand Theft Auto" is synonymous with quality, and I doubt that EA would be stupid enough to rush a GTA game out the door and ruin that reputation, when they could easily allow Rockstar to make several high-quality GTA games and make far more money than they would with one rush-job. Then again, look at Westwood..... As for the second point, this could go one of two ways. First, there could be no corporate sponsorship of the next GTA game, which is the situation that has existed since the days when Rockstar North was called DMA Design. This is the scenario that will result if EA is smart and leaves Rockstar alone, like they did with Maxis. The second scenario, however, is more worrying. If EA does with Rockstar what it did with Westwood, Bullfrog and countless other companies, then we will see the rapid decline of the GTA franchise. Having massive billboards advertising Sprite and having Adidas tracksuits, Nike Shox basketball sneakers, and South Pole jackets available for sale at the clothing store (which just so happens to be an Urban Outfitters) will turn GTA from a sly social commentary into exactly the sort of thing that it was once making fun of. On top of that, some of the corporate sponsors may not take too kindly to some of the, shall we say, more mature aspects of the Grand Theft Auto series. EA's desire for a quick buck, be it from sponsors or from soccer moms, may make them force Rockstar to tone down some of the content. Maybe I was wrong in my initial assessment of EA's puritanism. So what exactly will happen with the GTA franchise once EA takes over Rockstar? It's too soon to say. There have been some notable exceptions to EA's trend of destroying smaller developers (Maxis is the biggest one, in my opinion), and they'd probably not want to risk destroying a golden goose like GTA. However, the chance that they will put their grubby hands all over Rockstar's little gem, and turn it into another Ultima or Medal of Honor, cranking out shallow sequels brought to you by Coca-Cola and Wal-Mart, is almost as great. I seriously hope that EA looks ahead and realizes that tampering with Rockstar and GTA would be a huge mistake. If they don't, then I hope that everybody at Rockstar jumps ship and forms a new, independent studio to make the great games that they are known for. Hell, I've already proposed a name: True North. Side note: In my honest opinion, I believe that EA's hostile takeover of Take 2 is not over controlling Rockstar, but controlling the market for sports games. 2K Sports is the only real competition to EA Sports, and with the former being absorbed into the latter, EA will have an almost complete monopoly on licensed sports games. No exclusivity deals required. To them, Rockstar is just icing on the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor1to3for5 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 If EA becomes involved with the GTA series in any way then it will have negative effects on the franchise. I like a lot of EA games (The Sims, Madden Football, etc.) but I have watched them ruin a lot of potentially good games. The last EA game I purchased was Hellgate London and it didn't turn out well at all. I will most likely purchase Spore in September but I seriously doubt I would enjoy an EA version of GTA. "What Take-Two's management doesn't understand is that people who own their stock bought it for one reason and one reason only — to sell it at a higher price," Pachter said. "Investing is a coldly rational, brutal business, these are not cheerleaders." (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hnhQduV-ewaRDMai0FTGOGqNr5YQD8VCP6AO1) That is EA's outlook at the gaming industry. He may be right but that is terrible news for people who enjoy quality gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5HT2a Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Take Two's stock is priced at around $25-$26 USD, from what I could gather from Take Two's website (correct me if I am mistaken, I know very little about the stock market.) The money offered to the shareholders would pale in comparison to the money that could be gained after Take Two's next wave of games comes out. I see the potential for a nice short term profit, but it seems to me that shareholders would profit more if Take Two continued on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubix99 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Take Two's stock is priced at around $25-$26 USD, from what I could gather from Take Two's website (correct me if I am mistaken, I know very little about the stock market.) The money offered to the shareholders would pale in comparison to the money that could be gained after Take Two's next wave of games comes out. I see the potential for a nice short term profit, but it seems to me that shareholders would profit more if Take Two continued on its own. Depends on the shareholders attitude. But unfortunatly they will be too focused on the money EA wave at them.....especially if they are all american. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor1to3for5 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I think Take Two's stock has risen a bit on the news that it may be taken over by EA. EA offered about $2 billion but GTA The wildly popular series, where players complete crime missions to get ahead in a gritty underworld, has sold 65 million copies and is considered one of the most successful video games in history. It's also Take-Two's main source of revenue and expected to bring in as much as $1.4 billion this fiscal year. So who really knows what the share holdres will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Another thing to remember is EA has a new CEO, someone who from early indications is making waves in the company. I am not saying EA have suddenly become a shining example of how to make video games but things are changing. Mass Effect is published by EA yet retains all great qualities Bioware aim for in their games, Maxis is still headed by Will Wright and is producing Spore a highly anticipated game. Yes I know I am ignoring the Sims 2 and its endless expansions which is EA's tentacles at work, I know this and this is the only fear I have with GTA under EA. EA aren't stupid, they know GTA is a big seller and know that messing with the formula would effect the money making power of the series. If EA want to make money GTA is the ticket but only if its untouched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanolad Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 why dont they just buy shares , like any other company would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payne8567 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 A bit OT here but EA would be able to replace the 2k baseball games which suck btw with their MVP baseball of old. MVP baseball 2005 was probably the best baseball game made to date and would provide some competition for the Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelipeVinhao Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Not really. I don't care either. The only difference between "before" and "after" is that we'll have a new GTA every year, and some editions won't make all fans happy, just like Need For Speed, SimCity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaaTi Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Dosn't really bother me Yeah me2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chukkles Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 You should care if you a big GTA fan, As I and many more are. EA will turn the games into one big billboard. Real life ads rather than parodies, which is what makes gta such a stand alone game. Why would they put effort into making you laugh when that can just rake in the advertising money. Can you imagine turning on GTA to "EA BIG" coming across your screen. No thank you. Wait a minute, you can't be a real gta fan if yu don't care so I won't waste my finger muscles any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nego00 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Oh no! More resources, more marketing, more exposure, more money! Rockstar has nothing to worry about. Take Two are the ones sweating...as they should be. GTA is their flagship title, but what else do they have to offer? 2K sports? Sid Meier? C'mon...if it wasn't for R*, Take Two would be likened to any old second rate publisher. EA would be smart to do like they did to Blackbox...Make a EA:Rockstar division and let those guys do their own thing. Slap an EA logo on the box and everyone is happy. Except Take Two. at first i was furious but now that i've read a bit i see that they're not going to take over the creative side (to my understanding) i wonder if EA has done a division like the one you're talking about EA/X and how did they manage that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaryKidsScaringKids Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 Didn't T2 deny the offer until Gta IV was released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentX Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 This is in fairness to EA and that. They have made a few good games (Rock Band). But with all the EA controversy, I feel as if I'm the only one who won't mind it too much or will hurt gta f EA does buy Take Two. Maybe not too much to be a huge concern. Hell, it might actually be a good thing if they want GTA4 to last, because you KNOW EA will be all about making games last...right? But yeah, it's not in any way good, but I don't think the world will end if it does. Am I the only one to think this? I don't give a rats ass if Take two gets bought Nintendo or EA. EA is a really good company, they have really great games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoxsystems Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 its all about money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 You should care if you a big GTA fan, As I and many more are. EA will turn the games into one big billboard. Real life ads rather than parodies, which is what makes gta such a stand alone game. Why would they put effort into making you laugh when that can just rake in the advertising money. Can you imagine turning on GTA to "EA BIG" coming across your screen. No thank you. Wait a minute, you can't be a real gta fan if yu don't care so I won't waste my finger muscles any longer. You are forgetting that while yes EA do what you mention to some of their games, it doesn't always apply to every game affiliated with EA. Such as games developed by companies within EA Games like Maxis and their Sims series, a series that has kept its humor, its made up Simlish language, brands, and objects etc. and hasn't become a "interactive" billboard yet. If EA had any sense they would keep Rockstar and let them do what they do best if they wanted to make the big bucks. Big bucks that would negate the need for extra income from advertisements. EA are proving this further with their affiliations with Bioware and Crytek producing two great games free of the usual EA contaminates. It shows that EA do have the sense to let developers like Rockstar do their own thing and see there is more money in creating great games. Yeah your fears are justified as I know what you say would sh*t me off and essentially kill off GTA's charm and soul. I just think people are too easily swayed into jumping on the "EA is Evil" bandwagon assuming every stupid thing EA do will apply to all games under the EA umbrella. EA are changing, with a new CEO and its starting to show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor1to3for5 Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 I worry that they may ruin the game but I think they are part owners of the Call of Duty series and COD:4 is amazing. I suppose I just treasure the entire GTA series so much that I freak out when the possibility of it ending as we know it arises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldd Posted March 15, 2008 Share Posted March 15, 2008 You should care, this is what's wrong; not only with EA being a giant corporation with way too much control over the industry; but with America. We need to start a freaking boycott against EA. They buyout every smaller company who has any respectable IP. Bioware, Maxis, and now take-two? It makes me sick, expecially the way they are going about it. I HATE CORPORATE AMERICA! What the hell happened? AHHHHH> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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