darkpower Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 This is under the assumption that nothing official is currently happening with the PS3 and DLC right now (which I believe it is happening, just not with all the fireworks the 360's is: If EA buys T2 before the GTA4 release, which it's unfortunately looking like they might attempt it and might even be successful, what would that mean to the exclusives that Take Two would want to make for the 360? Would they not be exclusives anymore? Would they want to move them to the PS3 exclusively and thus turn the tables? Would they make everything a level playing field? Or, worse things come to worse, they would terminate any DLC coming out...FOR ANYONE?! There is a distinct possibility that because of the hands being changed, terms might not be so easy to come by. And it has been documented that EA has a sort of love affair already with the PS3, so if this were to happen even remotely around the time the game drops, you KNOW EA would want to publish alot of extra stuff for both platforms, especially the PS3. And to the one thing I don't think will happen, or the possibility that I don't want to happen: That Microsoft might not want to have anything to do with EA, and since they can't get a good deal anywhere (just making up a reason), they drop all plans for any EC! You think this news about EA, should it become imminent by that time, would change any "terms" in that sense? It IS a controversial point about GTA4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
god_hand5 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 T2 has already said that they will NOT allow the hands to change until the game comes out, and even then nothing has truly been decided yet. The deal not not even go through if it means that ea will have a monopoly, because gthe government at that point in will step in and shut it down and the deal wont go through, but we will find out everything on the 30th, one day after the game comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpower Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 T2 has already said that they will NOT allow the hands to change until the game comes out, and even then nothing has truly been decided yet. The deal not not even go through if it means that ea will have a monopoly, because gthe government at that point in will step in and shut it down and the deal wont go through, but we will find out everything on the 30th, one day after the game comes out. I emphatically hope that you are correct on that. However, my question is, if it were to go down, what types of post GTAIV plans do you expect to be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
god_hand5 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 i think what would happen is rockstar would break away from ea and kinda become their own company until someone picked them up and for a brief while they wouldnt do much in the way of dlc and stuff like that but i think within the year of that happening (if it were to happen of course), everything would be back to normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCFC Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Well, T2 is just the publisher. They do not create any of the games content. Microsoft paid to Rockstar Games to create the DLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Asian Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Rockstar is under contract with T2 right? SO wouldn't EA's buyout make R* an independent developer? Or under EA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCFC Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 No, no, R* can apply to say ''capcom'' (Publisher) (not saying they would it's just a company name) and Capcom then do all their marketing hype, advertisments etc. Capcom wouldn't OWN R* (likewise R* wouldn't OWN Capcom). R* can choose to market the game them selves.. But that would mean having to buy hundreds of disk burners to manufacture the game, and ship it out to stores etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpower Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 No, no, R* can apply to say ''capcom'' (Publisher) (not saying they would it's just a company name) and Capcom then do all their marketing hype, advertisments etc. Capcom wouldn't OWN R* (likewise R* wouldn't OWN Capcom). R* can choose to market the game them selves.. But that would mean having to buy hundreds of disk burners to manufacture the game, and ship it out to stores etc. The main problem with this is that Rockstar is wanting to sell Take Two, and those are the developers. If they are sold, GTA goes with it. And GTA is what EA WANTS. If they do not become the publishers, then they might as well not be bought by EA. It's kind of obvious that is THE prize here. Once that is their's, then something tells me things will change, BIG TIME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>>TsingTao<<~ Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 R* don't need to be taken over, They probably have made more money than EA. Certainly R* wouldnt be bought out by the likes of EA - EA are sh*t, Like Organic food vs Genetically Modified - Organic wins hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper x550 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I doubt that the EA take over would happen, Take-Two and Rockstar both know EA games are sh*t and I would assume that they have the brains to not sell out...besides, it just doesn't seem like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coons2k4 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 T2 has already said that they will NOT allow the hands to change until the game comes out, and even then nothing has truly been decided yet. The deal not not even go through if it means that ea will have a monopoly, because gthe government at that point in will step in and shut it down and the deal wont go through, but we will find out everything on the 30th, one day after the game comes out. The gov't will step in and shut it down because of a monopoloy?? I highly doubt it. Why havent they stepped in to stop the Madden deal that EA made??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmeNikoBellic Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 i feel confident about what houser said: "I never want people feeling that we've duped them in any way, shape or form. That's something that we've been into from the beginning." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpower Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 T2 has already said that they will NOT allow the hands to change until the game comes out, and even then nothing has truly been decided yet. The deal not not even go through if it means that ea will have a monopoly, because gthe government at that point in will step in and shut it down and the deal wont go through, but we will find out everything on the 30th, one day after the game comes out. The gov't will step in and shut it down because of a monopoloy?? I highly doubt it. Why havent they stepped in to stop the Madden deal that EA made??? Actually, I think it was the NFL that was going to do that, anyway. EA just was smart enough to take THAT! As far as what I'm thinking, this may be THE best thing for the PS3 version, since: 1. Since EA wants to maximize profits, I could think that they will be MORE than willing to distribute WHATEVER DLC they can for the PS3 version as well as Microsoft. 2. EA, again, is in a love affair with the PS3 (as in, they are one of the many publishers that want to develop with the PS3 hardware in mind, like Activision is right now). It might make it tough for Microsoft if EA is thinking that way. However, as far as I'm concerned, the possibility of a termination of DLC content is something that I hope is not a consideration. Just remember, don't think it wouldn't change after a takeover. Things like this tend to have people that were in contract rethink their position (because it IS a new person and they might want to change the parameters). Of course, this is under the assumption that they want to take this over before GTA4 comes out. If they don't, this that begins to get VERY complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tld Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Another thread about the potential takeover how many have people gotta make, everyone already knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpower Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 Another thread about the potential takeover how many have people gotta make, everyone already knows Actually, I created this a few days ago, before the entire flood of EA/T2 topics began. Forgive me for that, as I didn't know how much this issue would explode into at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tld Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 march 13th was yesterday? It seems to be going strongish so i'll chill but you know what i mean when newbs create topics for the hell of it and they always are really stupid things There should be a block to stop newbs creating topics on the first few days they sign up so they learn how this works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpower Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 march 13th was yesterday? It seems to be going strongish so i'll chill but you know what i mean when newbs create topics for the hell of it and they always are really stupid things There should be a block to stop newbs creating topics on the first few days they sign up so they learn how this works The time was in the morning (3 AM) when I posted it. The flood didn't begin until the afternoon. I considered that, then, to still be the 12th. For me, the next day begins when I wake up (don't ask). I see what you mean, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rectonator Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 TakeTwo saying they will not allow EA to take ownership before GTA comes out is worthless because there now trying to buy the shares directly from the shareholders instead of buying the company as a whole. So if the shareholders decide to sell before GTA comes out thats their choice. I read that EAs mean focus was on the sports games that taketwo publish. GTA is not their prime goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isuck100% Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 The Playstation 3 will never be getting any episodic content. EA taking over will not change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpower Posted March 14, 2008 Author Share Posted March 14, 2008 The Playstation 3 will never be getting any episodic content. EA taking over will not change anything. We're NOT going to start THAT conversation here, since no matter who tells you that they plan on it, it'll never change what you want to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10wellsmit Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 look ISuck 100%, I love the 360 just as much as you, I also proberly hate the PS3 just as much as you, But arrogance doesn't help us, it just gives us 360 fanboys a bad name. Let the PS3 fanboys be the arrogant assholes( no sterotipical comment intended, only a select few accually are), we're better than that. Besides, despite what you think the PS3 is accually the best thing that has ever happened to the 360. It's the same reason why apple is such an innovative company. Because Microsoft now has some hardcore competition to deal with, they must raise the bar and make better stuff. Also, apple has some super hardcore awesomly pwning competition (M$), which is why they have to work so hard to get out the innovative products. If anything GO AND BUY A PS3, if microsoft feels that they are behind more in the market they will have to get off their hides and accually put in some EFFORT! So stop bashing the PS3, it WILL get EC, maybe not as good, but it will. sorry for the long post and bad spelloing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAmcad Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Everyone seems to be forgetting that Microsoft is one of the gaming powerhouses, and there is no way in the world that the 'exclusive' DLC they paid $50 MILLION for will be looked over. There would be countless lawsuits and endless amounts of litigation against EA and it would put a sizeable strain in the relationship that is vital to both companys success. I highely doubt that if the takeover bid is successful that anything would change at all regarding GTA IV, however the next GTA certain changes possibly make be made regarding DLC etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 I hate the X360 owners and supporters as much as you hate my brethren. We are a gang of PS3 players and we RULE, let's Mofo RUMBLE! Y'all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Al Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 As a rule, if a company is bought out, the new owner becomes bound by whatever contracts the old company has with other companies. If EA buys Take Two, then EA owes Microsoft two DLC packs under the deal Take Two agreed to. The contract may have an escape clause (like, give Microsoft the money back) so EA is probably going to want to do the DLC. If Rockstar wanted to leave before the DLC was done, the agreement with Microsoft would give EA another 50 million reasons to try to make Rockstar happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Even as a PS3 owner (as stated), I am not even bothering to read thread after thread on this VERY subject or lose sleep over it. Until it becomes a reality, there's really no need to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnorg Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 R* don't need to be taken over, They probably have made more money than EA. Certainly R* wouldnt be bought out by the likes of EA - EA are sh*t, Like Organic food vs Genetically Modified - Organic wins hands down. Check your facts, EA is richer by zillions of dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker249 Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Why don't people understand this...T2 is the distributor. The whole M$ DLC deal has nothing to do with T2. R* will make the exclusive M$ DLC and PS3 DLC. It's a download, so T2 (or EA) will have no play in DLC decisions. In 2009 (i think) R*'s contract ends with T2 (EA), and they can go with whatever distributor they want. Of course, EA will attempt to get them into another distribution contract, and probably will try to buy R* outright. Can't wait to see the 3,481,572 threads per hour that creates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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