News on DLC

[ETB]

I agree, adding a storyline is what I would prefer over an extra island...although I dont want to concentrate at the moment on the DLC. The hype for the DLC will come at a later stage

[darkpower]

I think the main anger that is coming from the DLC issue is who is exactly is getting what, and people started saying that everything was 360 exclusive, and thought that they knew everything that was in the deal. The absolute only thing that Rockstar has said about anything was that the two DLC episodes for the 360 was a guaranteed exclusive. They never once said anything about anything else being exclusive. This was all Microsoft that we were told was saying all this extra stuff, and the source was questionable. But every Microsoft fan jumped on that blog and posted it everywhere they could (this is why I posted that response the author of said blog gave to one of my own), and it suddenly because so wide spread that everyone just took it as truth, and whenever a sensible person comes on and gives a creditable source that says that it's possible that both systems will receive as much as an equal amount of DLC love as they can give them, the XB360 boys come right out and wear us out with that blog again and again.

 

I think this is why everyone is such in an uproar. No one believes what even the Rockstar people tell us and what game magazines are telling us, yet some unknown blog will be trusted. And then the PS3 owners get mad and try to defend their argument with what they have read, seen, and whatnot, and then they just submit to what the XB360 fans want them to "admit". It's like the GTA4 game depends solely on the DLC content, and that the core game that drops next month is such a non-issue. That's what it is now. Become so fixed on what is to be of the DLC we don't even care about the GAME anymore. To anyone that is arguing so much about this DLC (which, by the way, nothing was ever said by Rockstar about anything beyond the two chapters being exclusive to any platform): Can you name one thing about the ACTUAL game that you have paid attention to? I don't think we've even read all the stuff that we'll be seeing in the game, because God forbid we see episodic content on any other platform.

 

No one is complaining on the two episodes being exclusives. Microsoft allegedly paid 50 mil to guarantee the timed exclusives. I don't think even the PS3 people will mind that someone had exclusives. No one's arguing THAT point. It's what is going to happen in addition that's up in the air. Rockstar is keeping as mum as they can while dropping hints that more stuff is being made, but they never said anything else will be exclusive for anyone. Hell, we don't even know if they'll be other EC's that will be released at the same time. They might drop an "April surprise" on us for all we know (drop a bombshell just days before the release of the game). From what has been printed in several mags, that's the only thing that is exclusive for the 360 that Rockstar has to give them (they offered them the money, now they have to pony up). Likewise, Rockstar is free to do anything it wants outside that. There's nothing else to that, and I'm not sure why everyone thinks there's this other clause that only they knew about or something.

 

But yeah, this has really clouded everyone's perception. No one who is arguing this is caring anymore about the actual game. The DLC is NOT going to make this game a hit. It'll make it longer, but not necessarily better. Most people might not even know that there's going to BE such a thing.

 

For me, personally, I'm right now looking at the multiplayer stuff, for some weird reason.

[hansenmork]

What is known as a fact is that Microsoft will get exclusive DLC for GTA4.

 

To someone yet to buy a console, but who will be making that purchase to play gta4, this extra content could be a deciding factor.

 

IF there were any plans for Sony exclusive content OR content that is for both consoles, then you would know about it (though not the specifics)

 

WHY?

 

Simple, Sony will not want to lose sales and would make known the fact that, yes , microsoft have exclusive DLC, but we will have DLC too.

 

They cannot advertise this fact if there are no plans for it. It would make no sense for something to be in the pipeline but Sony keeping quiet on it while Microsoft have an advantage over them in the content stakes.

 

So although future deals could be made it would make no business sense for Sony to already have something equal to Microsofts deal and not be talking about it, even in the vaguest terms.

 

Imagine if two weeks after GTA4 is released, Sony suprise everyone and say "Hey, actually we have a deal with R* too and will be releasing our own exclusive content!".

Imagine all of the people who had just bought an xbox360 to play the game and the extra content, and all those who had both consoles but went with Microsoft for the dlc. Financially, most of those people would be stuck with their decisions and so will not be able to jump ship and buy a PS3 or another copy of GTA4. Sony will have lost out on many sales.

 

Its common sense that if you have a product to beat or at least match your rival, you will let your target market know before they can make their decision and spend their money.

 

 

[darkpower]

While you have a point, that the only thing that we know for SURE WILL be that DLC, that is not going to the the absolute selling point of the game.

 

And you really did not see what I was getting at. You have just proven my point. The actual game is no longer an issue to anyone. The GTA4 selling point now is exclusively the DLC, which is a shame because we are getting a damn good game on both platforms that will take up at least 100 hours of our lives. There is so much good that we are hearing about the depth of this game that we might want to focus on THAT instead of this rubbish about who gets what in August. DLC is not going to be THE selling point. The other games will be. Not to sound like a fanboy, but right at the moment, the PS3 has the better lineup of games post GTA4. I think that is what the people buying a system for a game is going to base their decision on. Also, not many people outside of us and the internets that surf the gaming blogs all the time have (thank God, because everything that came out of their mouths were lies) not even read that Bitbag article. Many people get their news from the gaming magazines like Gamepro and GameInformer, and sometimes even the console specific game mags. None of which had what Microsoft "said" at that thing, and instead had the key quote of "we want this game to last for years". I know, now I'M beating that quote to death, but I think it's important. Many are going to see that if they are concerned about it and say "you know, many exclusives eventually come to the other system within a year, anyway." And then they are going to look at what could make the game play better, what controller do they feel more comfortable playing it on, and again, if they are yet to buy a next-gen platform, they are going to want to know what else they are going to be able to play. MGS4 is, right now, going into overdrive with its hype (and that will be another reserved title for me), GT5 played AWESOME in the demo I downloaded, Home is looking good, FFXIII is on its way this year (cross your fingers. THAT was the game that I bought my PS3 for, not GTA4 necessarily), and we just got word that, FINALLY, 8 Days is being resurfaced (and when I saw the trailers when that was first announced, it looked f'n AWESOME). The PS3 has a stronger lineup of games coming out this year, plus don't forget the multiplatform games that the PS3 will be able to be better on now. Call Of Duty 5 could just be the finest Activision game on the PS3, Guitar Hero: Aerosmith could very well be better on the PS3, and to tell you the truth, I see many people still focusing on Rock Band (which is another reason I bought a PS3), which is STILL getting a massive amount of sales.

 

This is not saying you don't have a point, though. Again, we don't know anything beyond that. But what we can safely say is that nothing is stopping Rockstar. We just do not know anything beyond that.

 

And if they did get a deal, and we might be able to assume that they got something now the way the Rockstar people are dropping hints, I wouldn't blame them for being hush hush. That brings me to my original point. Look at all the speculation and rumors and flat out lies we've been getting about "what exactly ARE these ECs, how big will they be, they're an entirely new GTA game." You have Microsoft going and bragging without thinking of how much they're exaggerating what they actually got. You have rabid fanboys at each others throats now, with the people who just have brand loyalty trying to defend their choice because the fanboys just won't shut up because they think they have the monopoly on all the facts and damn anyone that tells them different. It's basically driving a wedge into the GTA community of fans that just want to be able to PLAY THE DAMN GAME!! Now, if you think all that is bad NOW, imagine the bloodshed when and if Rockstar delivers a "by the way, the PS3 is also getting something to call their own for GTA4" bombshell. You'll be seeing a crime of genocide, I can all but assure you. Because you have those that would finally be able to say "i told you so" do just that, you would have the people who believed in their hearts that the 360 had the monopoly, you would have Microsoft basically having a massive amounts of seizures over it, you would have the GTA community even MORE divided over this.

 

That would be AWFUL. If I was Rockstar and I just now got that deal with Sony squared away (which Rockstar basically said "don't worry, we haven't forgotten about you guys in GTA4"), I wouldn't be saying SH#T about it, either. I'd do whatever I could to make sure it WOULDN'T be known, so we don't have that same thing that happened when the 360 exclusives were announced. You really want to start all that again? Me either. And again, no one is stopping Rockstar from doing that. Part of the venom IS that they think Microsoft is somehow keeping them from doing anything else with anything else, which is far from what is really legal in business (as in, you run the risk of being put in jail if you do something like that, I know some things about anti-trust laws, believe me. Sony would be able to sue them AND R* BLIND!).

 

But still, the DLC isn't going to sell this game for any console. It's going to come down to which one handles better. Just go for the system whose games more attract you. Learn about the GAME ITSELF, too!

 

Hell, does anyone who argues to the death about this crap still remember who the main character in GTA4 will be anymore?

Edited March 13, 2008 by darkpower

[freestyle187]

Sixcrapsis, lol.

[hansenmork]

Though I dont agree with your assessment - sh*tcrapsis would be a better insult if thats your kind of thing.

[gta-guru]

Im almost more hyped for the DLC than for the game, and thats just BANANAS!

[freestyle187]

Though I dont agree with your assessment - sh*tcrapsis would be a better insult if thats your kind of thing.

Oh touche, touche.

 

I think Sixasis could work, altough it's basically a cheap rip-off of the Wii idea.

 

And not very suitable for a GTA game.

[?!=+_-]

I don't give a flying donkey about the extra content because GTA IV will be so amazing and fun that even if the DLC is good it just won't matter to me because I know i'll have fun on GTA IV for years to come, extra content or not and to my fellow earthicans who have a ps3 you should also not give a f*ck about the extra content because yeah it will be good but your getting GTA IV which will be one amazing experience, the end.

 

P.S. The sixaxis is realy good you should try it you xbox fanboys, it's kind of sad how you disrespect it, yeah on some games it's crap but that's not sony's fault it's the people who make the game. But anyway I'm looking forward to using it again.

Edited March 13, 2008 by MarcoTheftAuto

[Obliviongamer]

 

Well, I am 100% going to be buying this DLC just because it's got something to do with GTA IV.. I don't care about the money.

[crackdawg]

I know the article isn't fake. I was more questioning the accuracy of the quote of Houser talking like a chav than anything. I couldn't see it myself.

 

I really didn't know the magazine existed. I guess I'm not -that- cool.

 

Also you guys might not want to step away from the computers. Someone online might be wrong...tools.

[shibby]

 

QFT

[C1ph3r]

 

I know the article isn't fake. I was more questioning the accuracy of the quote of Houser talking like a chav than anything. I couldn't see it myself.

 

I really didn't know the magazine existed. I guess I'm not -that- cool.

 

Also you guys might not want to step away from the computers. Someone online might be wrong...tools.

Damn, dude, you sure are a dick. Have you never corrected someone on this forum when they post misinformation, or just plain idiocy? Read your own post log, you have, and much more rudely than people in this thread. You know, I hadn't heard of Edge either, until the article was posted here. I just googled them to find out who/what they are, see if they were a reliable source. Doesn't make me cool. You could've done the same. Doesn't make you not cool. Failing to do so and then making definative judgements based on your own gut reaction does make you look kind of like an idiot, though. So when you get caught posting misinformation, or just an erronious impression of other's information, how do you respond? Do you own up? Naw, it's childish insults, all the way, calling folks idiots, tools, or evolutionary dead-ends. Yeah man, that's class.

 

Again, Houser is CEO of Rockstar, not HP or MS. He's bound to be a little less than politically correct, don't you think? I mean, unless you know the guy. Which is possible, I guess. Tell you what, you post a pic of you and Houser in some buddy type situation, drinking at the pub or driving go-karts or some such thing, and I'll totally believe anything you say regarding Houser's personality, linguistic quirks, unlikeliness to drop an f-bomb, whatever. Sound fair, buddy?

Edited March 13, 2008 by C1ph3r

[archiebunker]

What crawled up that guy's butt?

[TenEightyOne]

Houser may be a CEO but he's more of a funky Richard Branson type than a bank manager. The impression I;ve always got of him over the years is that he has an incredible range of skills - he has the ability to play the corporate game as well as anybody but also has the vision and the raw imagination to create worlds of the like of Vice City and San Andreas. He must be barking mad.

 

I thought the Edge article seemed entirely credible and sounded just like Houser talking. I've never heard of Edge - I don't bother with magasines because the industry pushed soft porn onto my kids everytime I take them to buy sweets, but they appear on examination to have been around a long time.

 

If Houser wasn't as mad as a goat, GTA would never have grown to what it is. If he wasn't a genius manager, we'd never have seen GTA at all.

[meraxsus]

i feel confident that the DLC will show up on all systems eventuly

in the words of wu-tang C.R.E.A.M (cash rules everything around me)

[reptilexcq]

If downloadable contents is just adding missions and guns ect....then it sucks. I thought it's about adding new maps or expanding the territory or something...that's what got me excited. I mean do you really care about completing more random missions when you finished the game?? C'mon...a lot of people would just be tired of it and want to head to Multiplayer instead.

 

So it is only cool to have expanding territory or something like that to help give the game longevity.

[deathdealer]

I'm really more concerned with the main game really. As for the DLC, i think it will be more missions and mutiplayer options.