Jay Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'd watch a 5 hour Singapore race if it meant we skipped Valencia. Or half a dozen other soulless courses. Besides the traditional European courses and the two Japanese courses (and the Adelaide Street Circuit of course!) many of the cookie-cutter races being plonked in arbitrary parts of the world in the past decade are boring. Yas Marina is cool though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Spock Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 ^ ya gotta go where the money is -- or at least that's bernie's philosophy. The night race is a cool idea -- some of the cars -- the ferrari and the maclaren in particular look f*cking awesome under the lights. The ferrari looks like it's a whole different shade of red. *SCOOP* Schumi quits it ... again. I hope that means Heikki gets the open seat at sauber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redketman Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Complete domination by Sebastian Vettel in Japan today! As far as I know he also achieved 'Grand Chelem' - that means that he won the race from Pole Position, led every single lap and also set the fastest lap. Grand Chelems are very rare in Formula One. I think Alonso has one. Vettel has one from last season. Schumacher has achieved the Grand Chelem a couple of times too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 ^ ya gotta go where the money is -- or at least that's bernie's philosophy. It started with Malaysia. Otherwise uninteresting nations really vying for international attention by hosting huge events. In fact, Malaysia cast the first stone when it came to international dick measuring by building the Petronas Towers, and not to mention the eternal battle with Singapore and Hong Kong to become to premier air travel hub of South Asia. It's almost like, for these countries, having an F1 GP is like saying "you can take us seriously now!" (India, Korea, Abu Dhabi, Australia, Turkey, China) and for some others its like "we actually exist!" (Bahrain). And then you get enormously bullsh*t situations like this and it just gets more ridiculous. Bernie has it right though. Plunge your dick in when she's in heat. They'll never compare to Spa, Monza or Monaco. I know I'm a broken record here, but all those courses are pretty much indiscernible from each other. You gotta expect that when they're all designed by the same dude. There's no substance besides races being held at night, or having weird pit exit lanes, or having the course wrap around an interesting area (or one that is going to be built eventually), or cobbling together a course with bits and pieces from other courses. Although to be fair I'm looking forward to the new USGP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Jazz Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Does anyone remember Taki Inoue? Apparently he was the first Japanese driver to ever finish the Suzuka Grand Prix and also he's batsh*t insane and 100% has to do a podium interview, hence a petition. His Twitter account has some right gems on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Spock Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Lotus seriously need to sack grosjean. As much as I dislike Maldonado, I'd say even he'd be a better bet for that seat next year. But I'd really like to see Heikki there. everything in the post race commentary was saying the FIA need to do something about him, but really it's up to boullier. Grosjean's p*ssed away so many championship points this year. Good drive from Kamui too. I don't really understand why sauber are thinking of booting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Watching the replay (again), just saw Perez go off (again) and they mentioned his McLaren move (again) Anyone have cliff notes on driver moves for the 2013 season (+ speculation)? Or is there a handy dandy forum thread somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redketman Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 We will probably see some new rookies next year just like usual. It wouldn't suprise me if Valtteri Bottas gets the Williams seat for example. Max Chilton will probably drive for Marussia and HRT may sign Dani Clos, but I guess it's important that he brings a lot of money with him if he want a seat in that team. There are also a lot of rumours that link Esteban Gutierrez to one of the seats in Sauber. Giedo van der Garde and Jules Bianchi might get a seat too. Caterham or Sauber/Force India. I highly doubt that we will se six rookies next season though. But I think we'll se more than two. (Charles Pic and Jean-Eric Vergne are the only two rookies this year). It looks like Bruno Senna and Vitaly Petrov might have some problems to retain their seats for next year. And it's not sure if drivers like Narain Karthikeyan, Kamui Kobayashi and Felipe Massa will be in Formula 1 next year either. It's already known that Schumacher won't drive anymore. I'm really looking forward to see what happens with this year's Silly Season; if we're going to see more driver changes for example. I still hope Ferrari gets rid of Massa but it isn't sure it's going to happen. Alguersuari has already said that he'll drive for a team next season. He refers to the team as beeing between 5th and 7th in the Constructors' Championship so I guess he means Sauber or Force India then. On the other hand, some days ago he said that he hasn't signed a contract for next season yet so it isn't 100% sure if he really will be a F1 driver next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED_ Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Getting rid of Grosjean would be a bit harsh. To be perfectly honest he would be perfect at Sauber. A slower car but still fast enough to a driver that can drive well, like him. He shouldn't be making these mistakes but he is a good driver, he had got what it takes to go places in F1. He needs the experience. AFAIK he jumped straight from GP2 to F1 and into a fast car. Bound to make mistakes. To be honest Lotus could try a different tactic. Qualify him just outside the top 10, or maybe get him into Q3 and keep him in the garage for 10th place. He'll be further down the grid, potentially a little calmer back there and may work out better for him. He has the talent to work his way up the grid so maybe qualifying him lower on purpose may give him that experience. I really think they should try something like this considering there's only a few races left and I'm sure they know he's got the talent but lacks the experience. They can't keep letting him do what he's doing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Spock Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Getting rid of Grosjean would be a bit harsh. To be perfectly honest he would be perfect at Sauber. A slower car but still fast enough to a driver that can drive well, like him. He shouldn't be making these mistakes but he is a good driver, he had got what it takes to go places in F1. He needs the experience. AFAIK he jumped straight from GP2 to F1 and into a fast car. Bound to make mistakes. To be honest Lotus could try a different tactic. Qualify him just outside the top 10, or maybe get him into Q3 and keep him in the garage for 10th place. He'll be further down the grid, potentially a little calmer back there and may work out better for him. He has the talent to work his way up the grid so maybe qualifying him lower on purpose may give him that experience. I really think they should try something like this considering there's only a few races left and I'm sure they know he's got the talent but lacks the experience. They can't keep letting him do what he's doing now. They wouldn't get rid of him right now with the season still going. And maybe it's the sponsorship money or the French connection but Lotus don't sound like they're looking around for someone else either. That's a really bad logic though - qualifying him 10th or lower just so he won't crash. If they actually did that they might as well give up and go home. Qualifying position is so important these days. If they have a car that can qualify 4th, 5th or 3rd on the grid, get a driver who can drive it safely out of the first lap too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redketman Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Mark Webber on Pole Position for tomorrow's race. I thought it was pretty obvious that Vettel would be first today but apparently he wasn't fast enough in the end. It's going to be interesting to see if Webber can keep Vettel behind him during the beginning of the race. By the way, he doesn't have to worry about Grosjean this time so for once he might get a good race result. He hasn't been in the Top-5 since the British Grand Prix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I can't believe I just heard this, but they called Webrar "the Web Dog" on Channel 10 news just then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Spock Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 ^ Trying to think of a "Yo dawg we heard you like _____ so we ______" but I can't. Mark webber's got a hard name to aussie-nickname. Webbo? Webby? doesn't click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Sugar Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I think Kobayashi should have been more heavily punished for causing that incident on the first lap, a drive through was nowhere near harsh enough. Apart from that it was a pretty boring race to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redketman Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I agree. Well, I usually don't think F1 races are boring, but today's race wasn't so entertaining. I don't even think there were any battles at the front. Anyway, this was the third victory in a row for Vettel and he's now the Championship leader. It's either him or Alonso that's going to win the Drivers' Championship. But it looks like Red Bull has the fastest car in F1 right now so it's going to be hard to beat Vettel at this point. He also achieved the Grand Chelem in India last year and that's our next race in this season ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperVeloce Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Vettel better not f*cking win the championship or I'll be extremely pissed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Sugar Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Vettel better not f*cking win the championship or I'll be extremely pissed... I'd say he's going to, now that he's 4 points in the lead with 4 races left and red bull have found their form in the last couple of races I just can't see Alonso beating him, of course he will make it close and it will go to the last race but the Ferrari just isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Spock Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 ^ If he does the trophy really should go to Newey and the design team. Fernando is still a better driver but it's a team sport. I guess if Fernando loses he can just go home and cheer himself by getting with his smoking hot girlfriend: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED_ Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) Getting rid of Grosjean would be a bit harsh. To be perfectly honest he would be perfect at Sauber. A slower car but still fast enough to a driver that can drive well, like him. He shouldn't be making these mistakes but he is a good driver, he had got what it takes to go places in F1. He needs the experience. AFAIK he jumped straight from GP2 to F1 and into a fast car. Bound to make mistakes. To be honest Lotus could try a different tactic. Qualify him just outside the top 10, or maybe get him into Q3 and keep him in the garage for 10th place. He'll be further down the grid, potentially a little calmer back there and may work out better for him. He has the talent to work his way up the grid so maybe qualifying him lower on purpose may give him that experience. I really think they should try something like this considering there's only a few races left and I'm sure they know he's got the talent but lacks the experience. They can't keep letting him do what he's doing now. They wouldn't get rid of him right now with the season still going. And maybe it's the sponsorship money or the French connection but Lotus don't sound like they're looking around for someone else either. That's a really bad logic though - qualifying him 10th or lower just so he won't crash. If they actually did that they might as well give up and go home. Qualifying position is so important these days. If they have a car that can qualify 4th, 5th or 3rd on the grid, get a driver who can drive it safely out of the first lap too. That's not how it works. You constantly see drivers get in Q3 and then only go out for an out lap. Tactics are important. Anyway Eric has already confirmed that they want him to stay so he's staying. The best decision since he is a good driver. He was a very reserved this weekend. Normally he is a real fighter. Bit of a shame he got stuck behind Hulkenberg even after pitstops; Hulkenberg is another driver on the up too so it isn't something Grosjean did wrong that got him there. Hulkenberg will probably get the Sauber driver, Sutil will probably get back into F1. I said it at the start of the season, because of his drink driving charge they got rid of him, gave him a year break and now he will come back, or at least it's likely because he had promise. Maybe as a 3rd driver. Don't really care who wins the championship, both great drivers. That Red Bull.. bloody immensense just at the right time. Qualifying is a big problem for Alonso, Vettel is clearly going to be the fastest in quali unless another team brings huge updates and for Alonso to win he needs to get on pole realistically. Even with a slower car Alonso is the best driver on the grid so being in pole would probably mean he stays in pole. Edited October 15, 2012 by RED_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Spock Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Watching the replay (again), just saw Perez go off (again) and they mentioned his McLaren move (again) Anyone have cliff notes on driver moves for the 2013 season (+ speculation)? Or is there a handy dandy forum thread somewhere? Found a good article that covers all the teams: Nico Hulkenberg and Felipe Massa's imminent deals at Sauber and Ferrari respectively mean the battle for the leading seats in Formula 1 is now over. Massa is due to visit Ferrari's factory on Tuesday for talks with team chiefs to thrash out a new contract for next year, which could be announced before the Indian Grand Prix. And with options at the top teams having gone, Hulkenberg has already made his move, as the German is understood to have signed a deal with Sauber in the hours after the Korean Grand Prix. At the front of the grid the seats are now all settled. Red Bull, McLaren and Mercedes have all officially confirmed their line-ups, while Lotus will retain Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean even though their contracts have not yet been signed. The identity of Hulkenberg's team-mate is not yet known, with Sauber likely to wait until it has a clearer picture of its financial strength for 2013 later in the campaign. The Swiss outfit is just 20 points behind Mercedes in the constructors' championship. If it can overhaul the German manufacturer it would earn several millions of pounds in commercial rights income, which could lessen the need for a pay driver in the second seat. There will be pressure from Mexican sponsor Telmex to slot GP2 race winner Esteban Gutierrez in for 2013, but there are concerns that his inexperience could prove costly in such a competitive F1 field. One option could be for Sauber to run Gutierrez in Friday practice sessions to help build his knowledge of F1. It could then give the second race seat to an experienced driver like Kamui Kobayashi, Jaime Alguersuari or Adrian Sutil. Drivers chasing the second seat at Sauber are also pushing hard to secure a place at Force India, where Paul di Resta is set to remain for another year. Force India is open-minded about its options, with a list of contenders that includes Alguersuari, Sebastien Buemi, Kobayashi and the team's Friday test driver Jules Bianchi. Williams will retain Pastor Maldonado for 2013, while Valtteri Bottas' impressive performances for the team on Fridays this year - allied to the struggles that Bruno Senna has endured - makes it likely the Finn will be given a race chance. Senna's best hopes of staying on the grid in 2013 could rest on a move to Caterham, where the future of both Heikki Kovalainen and Vitaly Petrov are unclear. Kovalainen has been in talks with the team, while Petrov still has valuable backing from Russian sponsors despite suggestions there may not be enough to secure him a place in 2013. Marussia will keep Timo Glock for next year, while Max Chilton is expected to line-up alongside him. Charles Pic, who has impressed in his rookie season, has been most strongly linked with a move to Caterham. Pedro de la Rosa is staying at HRT, while his team-mate will be decided over the winter. from here I won't be surprised if Maclaren end up regretting choosing Perez over Hulkenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redketman Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Meh. It's official, Massa will stay at Ferrari. I'm quite disappointed. He's one of the most boring drivers nowadays, he's Alonsos doormat and hasn't really deserved his seat for a very long time now. He sucked in 2011 and also during most of this season. I do admit that he has been quite good lately but he should have driven better earlier. It would be fun to see something new in Ferrari too. Massa has been part of the Ferrari team since 2006 and he's not exactly a future name in F1. I'm looking forward to see Hülkenberg in Sauber though. He's a talent and has a lot of potential. And Sauber might be an improvement over Force India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 This is the first time in a long time I haven't been working on a Sunday. These weird camera angles on some of the cars, like the ones facing behind and on the front wing, have they been doing this all season or am I going crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Sugar Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 They've been doing that since the 90's haven't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 They've been doing that since the 90's haven't they? Yeah, some of the best F1 vids have been hot laps by the drivers head from bygone eras. But in India there was a camera angle when Lewis pitted that was looking backwards and to the left, it was weird. And a camera facing backwards on the front wing. I'm just glad the POV cameras are HD on all cars these days. I remember when JB won the DWC the cameras on the Brawn cars were such sh*t quality compared to Ferrari and McLaren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Spock Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Good News Everyone! Hulkenberg confirmed for Sauber next year. Personally I think they build better cars than force india, and Nico will bring them consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAZEL Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Really awesome to see Kimi on the top podium again, and Vettel fighting his way back up through the field numerous times, to finish third. Fantastic race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperVeloce Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm sure it was a good race, but the result was a load of sh*t. Except for second place of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redketman Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 This was one of the best races of the year because there were a lot of action and drama. Also nice to see that Kimi finally won a race for Lotus and that the Championship isn't decided yet with two races to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Spock Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Kimi!!!!! Man how was that podium interview? First kimi says that the team was giving him sh*t for not smiling enough and then vettel drops the F-bomb. With kimi it was cool, but vettel pouring drink on Coulthard's head was just bratty. I really hope vettel's car breaks down in the texas race - 0 points, and it's enough for fernando to take the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redketman Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Awesome race in Austin! Lots of overtaking and thrilling moments! And the Championship isn't decied yet. Vettel will have a 13 point lead, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
