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Tchuck

I can see that, but I wonder if they coudn't have blended it into the overall design of the car better... I've seen some more interesting designs around, like for example:

 

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Or

 

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elfoam

That secret rear diffuser on the Ferrari works like a boss :0

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Triple Vacuum Seal

ffs Haas can't catch a break for sh*t.

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Eutyphro

At least they had some serious pace while they were still going. Possibly 4# team in the longer run this season.

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elfoam

At least they had some serious pace while they were still going. Possibly 4# team in the longer run this season.

 

I honestly can't see any difference between it and the 2017 Ferrari so it will be good for the first half a season but other than engine power it wont get any upgrades through the year. It will be behind Mclaren and Renault if not more before the seasons end.

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GTA_CAT

Do you think Fernando Alonso is cursed since few years ago? Damn it was my favourite pilot but I stopped watching F1 after Grosjean made him probably lose the 2012 championship. Since that he has been so unlucky...

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Eutyphro

 

At least they had some serious pace while they were still going. Possibly 4# team in the longer run this season.

 

I honestly can't see any difference between it and the 2017 Ferrari so it will be good for the first half a season but other than engine power it wont get any upgrades through the year. It will be behind Mclaren and Renault if not more before the seasons end.

From what I've read Mclaren and Renault are pretty pissed off currently due to how Haas went from an incredible sh*t car to a pretty pacy one, and even want an investigation into it. They're pretty bad losers imho.

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Crokey

The thing is with Haas, they did the same sort of thing in American Moonshine Circle Racing (aka NASCAR), they started out fairly average, and now have a good team and set up that wins things. Due to that, they've got a bit of a headstart on setting up a racing team, so I wouldn't be surprised if they develop quite quickly.

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FukNRekd

The thing is with Haas, they did the same sort of thing in American Moonshine Circle Racing (aka NASCAR), they started out fairly average, and now have a good team and set up that wins things. Due to that, they've got a bit of a headstart on setting up a racing team, so I wouldn't be surprised if they develop quite quickly.

Gene Haas has always been like that. He never has liked playing catch up.

 

I remember back in the mid 80's when HAAS' first came out. Fadal fanbois all LOLed at them. Withing a couple of years they made a huge cut into Fadals customer base.

 

They're leaders in the industry for their class. They're not Moris or Mazaks but they do almost the same work for less than half the price.

 

I was so excited when they started F1. Hope they can compete this year.

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Nico
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I f*cking hate how the FIA and Liberty Media are so unwilling to control Mercedes. This "party mode" situation is so f*cking stupid. Ferrari and Red Bull had to constantly avoid the stones that were thrown by the FIA in their paths when they were ahead of everyone, yet Mercedes is free to do whatever they want. They must be really frightened by the fact that Mercedes could leave F1 in the next years, otherwise I don't see why they would give them such a big free pass for everything.

 

They aren't fooling anyone, in qualy they were nearly 1 second faster than Seb. They only lost the race because of the Haas debacle and the subsequent SC, and also because Albert Park is a fairly narrow track. Call me a joy killer but I don't really see a fight for the championship this year despite Ferrari's victory. Bottas will keep f*cking things up and further proving that Nico wasn't precisely Lewis' bitch as many people pointed out prior to 2016.

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Triple Vacuum Seal
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Bottas takes a lot of sh*t for his performance. He's certainly no Rosberg or Hamilton. But if Hamilton had anyone better, then it would be even more unfair.

 

 

At least they had some serious pace while they were still going. Possibly 4# team in the longer run this season.

 

Though I'm not very optimistic about them finishing in the top 5 this year, their pace has certainly improved a lot. I guess it's too early to call. A 4th 5th finish last week would have been critical for the points.

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elfoam
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I f*cking hate how the FIA and Liberty Media are so unwilling to control Mercedes. This "party mode" situation is so f*cking stupid. Ferrari and Red Bull had to constantly avoid the stones that were thrown by the FIA in their paths when they were ahead of everyone, yet Mercedes is free to do whatever they want. They must be really frightened by the fact that Mercedes could leave F1 in the next years, otherwise I don't see why they would give them such a big free pass for everything.

 

They aren't fooling anyone, in qualy they were nearly 1 second faster than Seb. They only lost the race because of the Haas debacle and the subsequent SC, and also because Albert Park is a fairly narrow track. Call me a joy killer but I don't really see a fight for the championship this year despite Ferrari's victory. Bottas will keep f*cking things up and further proving that Nico wasn't precisely Lewis' bitch as many people pointed out prior to 2016.

 

The thing about "party mode" is that's just running the engine in a full state of tune. If you were racing in a normal car racing series where you can rebuilt the engine every race you run it at optimal spark advance all the time. In F1 because they engines have to last ... I dunno but it's well over 1000km at 1000hp you have to run them turned down quite a bit and the better your engine is the more you can turn it down and still stay in front. The is all Merc do, the problem for everyone else is when they turn it up.. being the best engine it's a lot faster. That Merc is a very complex car right now and I doubt it has much improvement left in it over the course of the year, the Ferrari is much more simplistic and has much more development left in it so Ferarri SHOULD be able to gain on Merc quite quickly even if they have to copy parts from the Merc (like Merc and especially Red Bull did last year), the Red Bull was almost a 2017 Ferrari by the end of last season :p Getting the first win was a good break for Ferrari because now they have until after China to make some speed on the car without it bothering the championship. Plus Bottas is down a gearbox already so chances are he's taking a big penalty before the year is out so that's a plus for the manufacturers championship Ferrari's way (they have a real chance of that this year imho).

 

As for Hass I think they will finish behind McLaren and Renault buy the end of the year but that will still be a good effort.

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Inttelix

I love Lewis I dont care about you haters. He is a very good driver and Ferrari had a decent lifespan with many victories for years, Schumacher dismantled any chance Mika Hakkinen had with a mercedes engine or anyone who came after that. So Ferrari had its good share of victories, as with Williams and McLaren who are now decadent. Let Mercedes win now. Enough red cars in the grid those who watched every single win of schumacher know what I am talking about.

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ntinoskonsta

Alonso the GOAT retired. 😢

 

Hope he succeeds in getting the Triple Crown. He's well on his way.

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Nico

Alonso is a truly great driver, talented like no other, but he was also terribly advised. He lacked patience in the moments he and his teams needed it the most. At some moment after his championships he started to believe himself as some sort of god who deserved nothing but the best. You could argue that Ferrari wasn't perfect either between 2010 and 2014 but he needed to have faith and build a team instead of being silly and antagonistic because of the lack of results. Schumacher and his team needed four years before they could make Ferrari competitive. Roughly the same amount of years Fernando lasted with the Italians.

 

He's leaving F1 through the back door because of his troublesome sayings and questionable working ethics. And once he's fully outside of F1 he will start attacking it to no end and claiming that Indy and WEC are better. By the way, the WEC is already lowering its pants at his presence by letting him win everything. Sad reality because he doesn't need that sh*t to win. True motorsport legends didn't need a championship to adapt to their needs so they could win, messing with the agenda of all the other drivers in the process.

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Redketman

Great to see Kimi Raikkonen drive F1 for another two years! I've been following F1 since 2003 and now when Alonso won't drive in F1 anymore, Kimi Raikkonen is the last driver left from that era. Massa and Button drove their last F1-races last year. As a Swede I hope Sauber sign Marcus Ericsson for another year. I guess it's either him or Antonio Giovinazzi who gets the seat. 

 

Lewis Hamilton won the 2018 Singapore Grand Prix and now has a 40 point lead over Vettel. 

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dingodile_r89

If Kimi completes all his races from now to his potential 2 years at Sauber, he will overtake Rubens Barrichello's tally of most GP starts.

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Nico

Kimi is a very likeable driver. Even my mom seems to love him and she proably can't even tell you which year he won the WDC. I'm glad he will stay for a couple of years more, but part of me wishes that, considering that this season is clearly lost for Ferrari -once more- and he will never have a chance to win again in Sauber, I would like to see Kimi winning a race in the remaining of this season. Ferrari drivers can fight now, because Vettel doesn't have any more chances as long as he and the team keep making silly mistakes. 40 points is a massive difference and we know that Hamilton is most comfortable when he has a huge lead.

 

I'm glad the change has already started in Ferrari. Leclerc is their future. At this point I don't think Vettel will ever win another WDC, either be with Ferrari or someone else. He's very prone to making silly mistakes, the most unforgivable one being Baku 2017 where he litteraly hit Hamilton at the restart. Hamilton is clearly a better driver and deserves the championship much more.

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Tchuck

Kimi is excellent. He doesn't give two sh*ts, always speaks his mind.

 

 

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dingodile_r89

Vettel's Hockenheim mistake was bigger. Vettel's Monza mistake was just terrible. Hamilton drove a champion's lap at Singapore for pole and a brilliant race from start to finish. Imo, he will win this year. Unless there's a mechanical failure for Lewis, Vettel needs to win every single race till the end to guarantee the title.

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Tchuck

Ohhhh boy, team orders strike again. Really disgraceful since this was Botta's race. Dominating it, setting the pace, then being told to step off the throttle.

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Nico

The podium of yesterday's race was a love letter to hypocrisy, not sadness. Everybody seemed "sad" but in the end Mercedes got what they needed to most, to keep enlarging the gap between Hamilton and Vettel. Once the Englishman inevitably becomes champion they will "pay" Bottas for his services with a victory or two at the end of the year. All I'm gonna add to this is that Nico Rosberg wasn't this much of a "tool" to the team. No top tier team has the balls to have two good drivers anymore. I hope Ferrari doesn't kill Leclerc's future trying to use him as a wingman for Vettel. He is supposed to be Vettel's replacement. The German simply will never be champion with Ferrari. Renault is hitting top bottom. Red Bull keeps proving that they can win with any engine, even bad ones. If there is no major changes upcoming on the French side, Ricciardo's future seems dark and uncertain.

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Nico

I f*cking hate how oblivious and soft the FIA is towards dirty drivers like Verstappen and Magnussen. Liberty is literally turning F1 into NASCAR. 5 secs for the Dutch's collision with Kimi is a f*cking joke, and no one to blame on the incident with Vettel IMO, but that killed any remote possibility of the German. The Danish ruined both his own race and Leclerc's. I'm glad Ricciardo had a good race for once, his team is putting as many stones as possible on his way out. Bottas was better than his usual today, standing in front of Verstappen. And Ferrari, well, what else can I add. What a f*cking disaster for the Italians. One more year, hats off to Hamilton and Mercedes, it's a matter of time now.

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Eutyphro
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33 minutes ago, Nico said:

5 secs for the Dutch's collision with Kimi is a f*cking joke

He really did nothing wrong. He had a lock up in the first lap and immediately rejoined the track. Kimi didn't anticipate it well. Mercedes or Ferrari would never have been penalized in such a case on the first lap.
 

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 and no one to blame on the incident with Vettel IMO

He goes for space that isn't there. It's Vettels fault, but ultimately it is perfectly fine he didn't get penalized.

When people cry about Max being a 'dirty driver' it seems they forgot how dirty the lauded Senna was. Max isn't even a dirty driver anyway. He's just genuinely a genius at defending his position.

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Wolver_321

Kimi Raikkonen, finally!! After 5 and a half years! Deserved victory!

Fantastic race also for Max Verstappen who finishes 2nd after starting in 18th place, that last fight with Hamilton was very intense.

Vettel crashed again during the 1st lap, but he's been able to catchup and arriving 4th in front of a disappointing Bottas. Hamilton had issues with his tyres, probably his strategy wasn't so good. Ricciardo again out due to mechanical problems...

 

But it's embarassing to see over a minute of gap between Bottas (5th) and Hulkenberg (6th), the difference between the "top teams" and the "smaller teams" is way too high.

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Nico

So f*cking glad that Kimi won. He deserves it. And he better enjoy this very moment because it won't happen again.

 

Great race for Max, starting so low in the grid and nearly winning the race. Hamilton was superb, but that's usual. Vettel, well, I don't want him driving for Ferrari anymore. ALWAYS failing under pressure. He managed to delay Hamilton's title a litte bit, but is not like that's anything remotely important. It's a matter of time now.

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Eutyphro

Yeah, Max has been performing increasingly well as the season is progressing. He's not just the tire wisperer, but the engine whisperer as well it seems, especially if you see how Ricciardo is coping with the engine, which doesn't predict much good for his next season. I hope for a Honda miracle next season but don't expect it, though good news about Honda is circulated. A championship battle between Max and Hamilton would be grand.

Also great to see Kimi win a race again. Really awesome.

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GTA3Rockstar

That post was gilded over $800 worth

 

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