[REL|Beta 0.075] ENBSeries (Graphic Change)

[Kiabbo]

Ok, this is great that Boris is still working on ENB but, what about SA ? Is it over ?

I really don't know.

Boris don't posted new pics for SA yet...

Maybe he'll finish IV first and then SA...

I really don't know

[drytaffin]

Ok, this is great that Boris is still working on ENB but, what about SA ? Is it over ?

What's the point of continuing to work on GTA SA [i don't know if my sentence is right ] ?

It's now old and with low poly model and map. GTA IV is a lot better for him, I think it has a bigger potential of work !

I just hope it'll be moddable [with new model I mean]

[Lil'Q]

Ok, this is great that Boris is still working on ENB but, what about SA ? Is it over ?

What's the point of continuing to work on GTA SA [i don't know if my sentence is right ] ?

It's now old and with low poly model and map. GTA IV is a lot better for him, I think it has a bigger potential of work !

I just hope it'll be moddable [with new model I mean]

And it laggs like hell since they screwed up the game...

[drytaffin]

Ok, this is great that Boris is still working on ENB but, what about SA ? Is it over ?

What's the point of continuing to work on GTA SA [i don't know if my sentence is right ] ?

It's now old and with low poly model and map. GTA IV is a lot better for him, I think it has a bigger potential of work !

I just hope it'll be moddable [with new model I mean]

And it laggs like hell since they screwed up the game...

I haven't got any problem with lag ...

My Computer is not the best ever and I run the game with texture on HIGH and the rest on MEDIUM/HIGH.

[4850 512Mo and 2Go of ram]

The last patch 1.3, make the game smoother and add some option and it nearly disable the clipping effect, all is great

[neilthecellist]

 

Ok, this is great that Boris is still working on ENB but, what about SA ? Is it over ?

What's the point of continuing to work on GTA SA [i don't know if my sentence is right ] ?

It's now old and with low poly model and map. GTA IV is a lot better for him, I think it has a bigger potential of work !

I just hope it'll be moddable [with new model I mean]

And it laggs like hell since they screwed up the game...

I haven't got any problem with lag ...

My Computer is not the best ever and I run the game with texture on HIGH and the rest on MEDIUM/HIGH.

[4850 512Mo and 2Go of ram]

The last patch 1.3, make the game smoother and add some option and it nearly disable the clipping effect, all is great

Yes, but, contrary to what any GTA SA fan will say (don't worry btw I still love San Andreas) GTA SA's graphics are sub-par now. EVEN with enb enabled, and SRT high res textures and all the custom car models you can find, ENB GTA SA looks worse than GTA IV.

 

Therefore GTA IV is a better investment for Boris.

 

Just look at the screenshots here:

 

http: // boris-vorontsov.narod. ru /ss_gta4_01_en.htm

Edited April 22, 2009 by neilthecellist

[nm69]

 

Yes, but, contrary to what any GTA SA fan will say (don't worry btw I still love San Andreas) GTA SA's graphics are sub-par now. EVEN with enb enabled, and SRT high res textures and all the custom car models you can find, ENB GTA SA looks worse than GTA IV.

 

Therefore GTA IV is a better investment for Boris.

 

Just look at the screenshots here:

 

http://boris-vorontsov.narod.moo/ss_gta4_01_en.htm

lemme remind U again that ur still comparin a 2005 game to a 2008 game... IV is using a totally new engine.... but it aint fun to play without the realistic vehicle mods ....and thats the B O T T O M L I N E cos NM69 SAID SO...

I think these screens SPEAK for themselves ... CLICK TO ENLARGE (b4 u judge them):

Edited April 22, 2009 by nm69

[thales100]

I think these screens SPEAK for themselves ...

Looks good, but GTA 4 looks much better of course, but as you correctly said its a 2005 x 2008 game, not that fair comparison.

[Murcchachosa]

Yes, but, contrary to what any GTA SA fan will say (don't worry btw I still love San Andreas) GTA SA's graphics are sub-par now. EVEN with enb enabled, and SRT high res textures and all the custom car models you can find, ENB GTA SA looks worse than GTA IV.

 

Therefore GTA IV is a better investment for Boris.

 

Just look at the screenshots here:

 

http://boris-vorontsov.narod.moo/ss_gta4_01_en.htm

lemme remind U again that ur still comparin a 2005 game to a 2008 game... IV is using a totally new engine.... but it aint fun to play without the realistic vehicle mods ....and thats the B O T T O M L I N E cos NM69 SAID SO...

I think these screens SPEAK for themselves ... CLICK TO ENLARGE (b4 u judge them):

Lol, you joking right?

The last 2 pics looks like you captured NFS UnderCover.

Damn, I wish I got that nice settings.

Could you post yo settings please.

Hopefully for GF9600M GT 512MB.

[nm69]

 

 

lemme remind U again that ur still comparin a 2005 game to a 2008 game... IV is using a totally new engine.... but it aint fun to play without the realistic vehicle mods ....and thats the B O T T O M L I N E cos NM69 SAID SO... 

I think these screens SPEAK for themselves ... CLICK TO ENLARGE (b4 u judge them):

Lol, you joking right?

The last 2 pics looks like you captured NFS UnderCover.

Damn, I wish I got that nice settings.

Could you post yo settings please.

Hopefully for GF9600M GT 512MB.

ummm jokin bout what??? and those are my old settings...ive ""hopefully"" saved it somewhere in my pc but i dont remember where... EDIT: heres the link....its below Ohnoo's settings: INI

 

and u see...thats what makes GTA SA stand out in terms of ENB...one moment its NFS PS ...then its NFS MW...then its NFS UC...then its GTA IV...its like im playin all the games in one

Edited April 22, 2009 by nm69

[neilthecellist]

Yes, but, contrary to what any GTA SA fan will say (don't worry btw I still love San Andreas) GTA SA's graphics are sub-par now. EVEN with enb enabled, and SRT high res textures and all the custom car models you can find, ENB GTA SA looks worse than GTA IV.

 

Therefore GTA IV is a better investment for Boris.

 

Just look at the screenshots here:

 

http://boris-vorontsov.narod.moo/ss_gta4_01_en.htm

lemme remind U again that ur still comparin a 2005 game to a 2008 game... IV is using a totally new engine.... but it aint fun to play without the realistic vehicle mods ....and thats the B O T T O M L I N E cos NM69 SAID SO...

I think these screens SPEAK for themselves ... CLICK TO ENLARGE (b4 u judge them):

Clicked them.

 

Hated them.

 

Sorry. GTA IV still looks better. I don't care if the game was 2005 and GTA IV is 2008. You could compare a game like BioShock to a game like Rainbow Six Vegas 2. BioShock looks better, even though it came out long before Rainbow Six Vegas 2 did.

 

GTA SA + ENB on the other hand still has not met up to the standards of GTA IV, and probably never will.

 

Again, I looked at all of the screenshots you posted (that includes clicking them and looking at them on my 24" LCD widescreen monitor) and they still look like crap. Sorry.

[nm69]

 

 

Clicked them.

 

Hated them.

 

Sorry.  GTA IV still looks better. I don't care if the game was 2005 and GTA IV is 2008. You could compare a game like BioShock to a game like Rainbow Six Vegas 2. BioShock looks better, even though it came out long before Rainbow Six Vegas 2 did.

 

GTA SA + ENB on the other hand still has not met up to the standards of GTA IV, and probably never will.

 

Again, I looked at all of the screenshots you posted (that includes clicking them and looking at them on my 24" LCD widescreen monitor) and they still look like crap. Sorry.

oh thats OK...EACH to his OWn i guess....LETS SEE WHAT GTA IV has to offer with ENB...although it doesnt require it cos it already has enough Bloom...and the only thing it missed out was reflections...SSAO does look good but lets see what happens next...

 

HOpe Boris aint gonna pull the plug on GTA SA ENB!!! the game which took over YOUTUBE with all the cool mods in it..esp ENB!!!!

[drytaffin]

Yes, but, contrary to what any GTA SA fan will say (don't worry btw I still love San Andreas) GTA SA's graphics are sub-par now. EVEN with enb enabled, and SRT high res textures and all the custom car models you can find, ENB GTA SA looks worse than GTA IV.

 

Therefore GTA IV is a better investment for Boris.

 

Just look at the screenshots here:

 

http: // boris-vorontsov.narod. ru /ss_gta4_01_en.htm

I don't understand why did you quote me ?!

I was saying that GTA IV is great looking and that te patch are good for the game.

[Kiabbo]

 

Clicked them.

 

Hated them.

 

Sorry.  GTA IV still looks better. I don't care if the game was 2005 and GTA IV is 2008. You could compare a game like BioShock to a game like Rainbow Six Vegas 2. BioShock looks better, even though it came out long before Rainbow Six Vegas 2 did.

 

GTA SA + ENB on the other hand still has not met up to the standards of GTA IV, and probably never will.

 

Again, I looked at all of the screenshots you posted (that includes clicking them and looking at them on my 24" LCD widescreen monitor) and they still look like crap. Sorry.

oh thats OK...EACH to his OWn i guess....LETS SEE WHAT GTA IV has to offer with ENB...although it doesnt require it cos it already has enough Bloom...and the only thing it missed out was reflections...SSAO does look good but lets see what happens next...

 

HOpe Boris aint gonna pull the plug on GTA SA ENB!!! the game which took over YOUTUBE with all the cool mods in it..esp ENB!!!!

But GTA IV enbseries bloom it's a lot better.Just like Crysis.And shadows too.And sky lighting is f*cking awesome.

[gamesguru]

 

Clicked them.

 

Hated them.

 

Sorry.  GTA IV still looks better. I don't care if the game was 2005 and GTA IV is 2008. You could compare a game like BioShock to a game like Rainbow Six Vegas 2. BioShock looks better, even though it came out long before Rainbow Six Vegas 2 did.

 

GTA SA + ENB on the other hand still has not met up to the standards of GTA IV, and probably never will.

 

Again, I looked at all of the screenshots you posted (that includes clicking them and looking at them on my 24" LCD widescreen monitor) and they still look like crap. Sorry.

First of all, Bioshock and Vegas 2 are two completely different types of games for different markets. Bioshock was made for Microsoft platforms including Windows, meaning development was easier thereby developers being able to improve on the game more than usual. Rainbow Six was created for three different platforms at once which is no easy task, and taking into conclusion that the Playstation 3 is still relatively new to developers (especially Western) at this period, meaning it's even harder to develop for; even the PC version got delayed due to such a tight schedule. In an additional note, Rainbow Six has never had great graphics in my opinion.

 

GTA IV is the successor to the III cannon, with SA being the last in that series, so of course the game must advance especially seeing as it is a full sequel and a total innovation over it's predecessors; meaning a new engine (this time specifically created by R* themselves, making development easier). GTA IV also had a lot longer development time compared to SA's, with a bigger and wider development team (the original delay was also bigger in comparison to that of SA's). And the last point I will make is that SA was during the last gaming generation, and we are in a newer generation where graphics and engines are more advanced, and computer hardware is more advance, so developers can now make better looking games because they have the power to do so.

 

And there are things in SA that do look better over GTA IV, ENB or not; take AA as one prime example. I agree with you though, SA hasn't got nothing on GTA IV, but I think the reasons why are pretty obvious.

[noelgamo]

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[neilthecellist]

@Klabbo: Boris is releasing ENB for GTA IV soon. When that happens, ENB + GTA SA is truly outdated. Right now it just seems like people are clinging on to a lost cause like luddites who can't admit that their GeForce 4 is outdated in our current age of GeForce 8's 9's and GT200's (ATI 3850 and higher respectively).

 

@gamesguru: Very valid reasons, but like you said, San Andreas with ENB still has nothing on GTA IV. Also, just to point out: AA really doesn't matter for me on my GTX 285 because I run at maximum resolution on a 24" widescreen LCD monitor. Ultimately, however, regardless of AA or not GTA IV remains much more of an enjoyable game for me (although I do miss the RPG game elements like having to work out, managing your weight and knowing when your sex appeal meter is low or high).

 

Also, ENB bump mapping completely distorts everything in San Andreas. Soda vending machines look like they're made of rock. ENB GTA SA with Depth-of-Field enabled causes your HUD and subtitles to look all fuzzy. I know this is because ENB is a DirectX hook but nonetheless, the point still holds that SA's got nothing on GTA IV as far as graphics QUALITY is concerned.

[Zpectre]

 

@Klabbo: Boris is releasing ENB for GTA IV soon.  When that happens, ENB + GTA SA is truly outdated. Right now it just seems like people are clinging on to a lost cause like luddites who can't admit that their GeForce 4 is outdated in our current age of GeForce 8's 9's and GT200's (ATI 3850 and higher respectively).

 

@gamesguru: Very valid reasons, but like you said, San Andreas with ENB still has nothing on GTA IV. Also, just to point out: AA really doesn't matter for me on my GTX 285 because I run at maximum resolution on a 24" widescreen LCD monitor. Ultimately, however, regardless of AA or not GTA IV remains much more of an enjoyable game for me (although I do miss the RPG game elements like having to work out, managing your weight and knowing when your sex appeal meter is low or high).

 

Also, ENB bump mapping completely distorts everything in San Andreas. Soda vending machines look like they're made of rock. ENB GTA SA with Depth-of-Field enabled causes your HUD and subtitles to look all fuzzy. I know this is because ENB is a DirectX hook but nonetheless, the point still holds that SA's got nothing on GTA IV as far as graphics QUALITY is concerned.

GTAIV doesn't have antialiasing. That's enough to make SA better.

 

@nm69: Excellent pictures, any pic that has an E92 is pure class.

[lpgunit]

Here are some screenies of my GTASA, with Mona Sax behind the wheel:

 

I used a slightly modified config courtesy of Lil'Q, plus Project Reality. The Monte Carlo can be downloaded at GTAInside, just in case you want that vehicle, too.

Edited April 23, 2009 by lpgunit

[game4life]

my screenshots

 

[Ruffio]

Guys when i try to put Lil Q's settings my game something like screen crashes and many many colorful points appear on my screen.. Do you know why? I don't think that is not compatible with my video card, cause it's a good one..

[thales100]

GTAIV doesn't have antialiasing. That's enough to make SA better.

 

Even without AA GTA 4 looks 100x better than SA.

[nm69]

GTAIV doesn't have antialiasing. That's enough to make SA better.

 

Even without AA GTA 4 looks 100x better than SA.

VOLKSWAGON SCIROCCO SCREENS

scroll down this page and look at the "2008 volkswagon scirocco by Gnome" screenshots....

[Kowaah]

Ruffio, have you ever overclocked your videocard? If the same thing happen with your videocard when overclocking (dots overlay screen), then your videocard is very weak.

[reznor]

GTAIV doesn't have antialiasing. That's enough to make SA better.

 

Even without AA GTA 4 looks 100x better than SA.

VOLKSWAGON SCIROCCO SCREENS

scroll down this page and look at the "2008 volkswagon scirocco by Gnome" screenshots....

I will post the series of screens "Clubthshow" tomorow, and I'll post the Modified Timecyc

[neilthecellist]

GTAIV doesn't have antialiasing. That's enough to make SA better.

 

Even without AA GTA 4 looks 100x better than SA.

Agreed. San Andreas simply isn't the same as GTA IV. And the fact that Boris has given up development of ENB for SA and is moving on to GTA IV (new screenies on his website!) is clear proof of such.

[Kowaah]

Such of what? I don't think it's useless using ENB in IV. IV does has all things, like Boris said for Just Cause - ''This game have all things, why does it needs ENB?''.

 

Just Boris will never say it about IV.

[ikt]

lol, help!

 

I have this see-thourgh effects if i enable SSAO, which also SSAO's objects very far that aren't visible at that moment. How do i fix it?

Edited April 23, 2009 by ikt

[drytaffin]

 

Such of what? I don't think it's useless using ENB in IV. IV does has all things, like Boris said for Just Cause - ''This game have all things, why does it needs ENB?''.

 

Just Boris will never say it about IV.

Iv does not have SSAO, antialiasing, real time reflexion, real time shadow [dynamic lighting I mean], and maybe more.

I think it's enought to work on it.

 

And @IKT: I've the same problème with all my game except Burnout.

[ikt]

Such of what? I don't think it's useless using ENB in IV. IV does has all things, like Boris said for Just Cause - ''This game have all things, why does it needs ENB?''.

 

Just Boris will never say it about IV.

Iv does not have SSAO, antialiasing, real time reflexion, real time shadow [dynamic lighting I mean], and maybe more.

I think it's enought to work on it.

 

And @IKT: I've the same problème with all my game except Burnout.

Damn. Do you have a ATi card? Because it never happened when i turned it on with my old 8600GT

[ohnoo]

can't help, I'm still lovin' SA

 

 

 

and btw @nm69: I like your pics!