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YourNeighborhoodKiller

Kosovo Declares Independence

Do you recognise Kosovo's independence?  

136 members have voted

  1. 1. Do you recognise Kosovo's independence?

    • Yes, I support Kosovo and the countries that support them.
      66
    • No, Kosovo is a part of Serbia, and I support Serbia in that matter.
      27
    • I am not willing to take sides in this issue.
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YourNeighborhoodKiller

 

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PRISTINA, Kosovo (CNN)  -- Kosovo has formally declared its independence from Serbia and become the world's newest state in a move opposed by Serbia and Russia but backed by many western governments.

 

Lawmakers in the legislature of the former Serbian province approved the declaration of independence at an extraordinary session Sunday afternoon. It was read out in Albanian, Serbian and English by Prime Minister Hashim Thaci before the approval of state symbols including Kosovo's new national flag and anthem.

 

Thaci said that Kosovo was an "independent and democratic" state, adding: "From this day onwards, Kosovo is proud, independent and free."

 

Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica promptly denounced the move.

 

"Citizens of Serbia, we have to come together and show the world that we do not acknowledge the creation of a false state on our territory," Kostunica said. "We will do our utmost to bring the province of Kosovo to where it rightfully belongs." He added, "As long as there are Serbian people, Kosovo is Serbian."

 

CNN's Alessio Vinci, reporting from Kosovo's capital of Pristina, said that thousands of Kosovar Albanians had braved the freezing wind and cold to sing, dance, wave flags in the streets and light firecrackers ahead of the much anticipated vote. Some revelers were even said to be firing guns skyward. "It's been like this for several hours now," he said.

 

"It's a day they have been waiting for for such a long time that many of them are trying to figure out just how they got to this day."

 

In Belgrade, Serbia's capital, riot police used flares and tear gas Sunday evening to disperse several hundred people protesting outside the U.S Embassy, said Time magazine's Dejan Anastajevic. Some of the protestors carried Serbian flags, and some threw things at the embassy, Anastajevic reported. Video from the scene also showed some demonstrators throwing things at police.

 

Video also showed one apparently injured police officer being taken to an ambulance.

 

President Bush said Sunday that Kosovo's status must be resolved before the Balkans can become stable and that the United States supports the Ahtisaari plan, which calls for a form of supervised independence.

 

The United Nations Security Council said it would hold an emergency session Sunday to discuss Kosovo's declaration, at Russia's request. Russia has also called for an open Security Council meeting on Monday so that Serbian President Boris Tadic can attend, Russia's ambassador to the U.N., Vitaly Churkin, said. He said that the Council was expecting a briefing from U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Sunday.

 

Russia -- Serbia's historic ally -- has remained opposed to Kosovo's independence. Russia, which has fought two wars against separatist rebels in its southwestern republic of Chechnya, has said that U.S. and European support for Kosovo's independence could lead to an "uncontrollable crisis" in the Balkans.

 

The European Union decided Saturday to launch a mission of about 2,000 police and judicial officers to replace the United Nations mission that has been controlling the province since the end of the war with Serbia in 1999.

 

Kosovo has been under U.N. supervision and patrolled by a NATO-led peacekeeping force since the end of the three-month war, in which NATO warplanes pounded Serbia to roll back a campaign of "ethnic cleansing" of the province's Albanian population under former President Slobodan Milosevic.

 

The disputed province is dear to the Serbs -- Orthodox Christians who regard it as Serbian territory. But it is equally coveted by Kosovo's ethnic Albanians -- Muslims who have a 90 percent majority. Two years of talks on its final status ended in failure last December.

 

"Its status must be resolved in order for the Balkans to be stable," Bush told reporters Sunday during a news conference in Tanzania.

 

U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the United States was reviewing the situation.

 

Bush said the Ahtisaari plan -- named for former Finnish President Marti Ahtisaari -- is the best option. The proposal would give Kosovo limited statehood under international supervision.

 

Bush added that "it's in Serbia's interest to be aligned with Europe and the Serbian people can know that they have a friend in America."

 

"We are heartened by the fact that the Kosovo government has clearly proclaimed its willingness and its desire to support Serbian rights in Kosovo," Bush said.

 

Thaci said Thursday he would establish a new government office for minorities and it would protect the rights of minorities after the province declares independence.

 

Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic has promised his country will refrain from using force against Kosovo after independence, though he has warned that Serbia will take punitive diplomatic, political, and economic measures against the province.

 

The EU said Saturday that "around 1,900 international police officers, judges, prosecutors and customs officials and approximately 1,100 local staff will be based in headquarters in Pristina or located throughout the judicial and police system in Kosovo."

 

The EU mission's objective is "to support the Kosovo authorities by monitoring, mentoring and advising on all areas related to the rule of law, in particular in the police, judiciary, customs and correctional services," it said.

 

 

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dragonrock

Nutty Balkan people tounge.gif

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nlitement

Now let's see how long the country will survive with virtually no economy and dependence on Serbia resource-wise (electricity, etc.).

 

Oh, and I live in a neighborhood with a high population of Kosovans and today there was a 30-something car convoy that drove by beeping and flashing and waving Albanian, Finnish (I'm ashamed of it), and American flags. Somebody also hung an Albanian flag on his balcony.

 

As soon as we reach a critical mass of Albanians in my neighborhood, city, or even my country, I guess they'll have a chance of becoming the third Albania after Kosovo because of being a majority. Also, there are plans for making Basque, Corsica, Catalania, Quebec, Åland, and many other territories independent. It's great to see that the Kosovo moment has now showed us the "OK" sign to start separating territories with majority-minorities from their countries.. South California, anyone?

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Pavlov

One of my friends is there since friday, she is kind of "supervising?" the thing. I'll show you some pics from her fb tomorrow.

 

It's very interesting to see how it had awaken the independentist feeling in Ossetia and South Abhkazia.

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Effy in Chains

I can see them benefiting greatly from this move. sarcasm.gif

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Iminicus

I don't see this being a good thing for Kosova. Well, time will tell.

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Asmodeus

This doesn't sound like a drastically good decision for Kosova. At least, on their part.

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dragonrock

I bet George Bush will interfere facedesk.gif

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BigGamer

This was ten years in the making. Hopefully it'll work out like Montenegro did.

 

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Effy in Chains

Sorry for that comment i was tired, drunk and didn't think it through.

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Iminicus

WTF does George Bush, the out going US President, have to do with Kosova's Independence? Nothing, so why bring him into it.

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Barciur

US actually strongly backs up Kosovo...

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dragonrock
WTF does George Bush, the out going US President, have to do with Kosova's Independence? Nothing, so why bring him into it.

Did the U.S. really have anything to do with Iraq? OMG TERROR BETTER ATTACK THE IRAQIS

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Ronnyboy

Nuclear missile holder? Thats about as far as it will get

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Killer.Khan

Im happy for them, but their economy wil be trashed since they don't have any links to Croatia anymore.

 

Only time will tell with what happens in Kosovo. They've apparently been fighting for independence for a VERY long time. Now they have it and should be happy.

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bigmamatuna
WTF does George Bush, the out going US President, have to do with Kosova's Independence? Nothing, so why bring him into it.

Did the U.S. really have anything to do with Iraq? OMG TERROR BETTER ATTACK THE IRAQIS

You argument is like your head. Up your own ass.

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YourNeighborhoodKiller
US actually strongly backs up Kosovo...

Exactly and thats just one of the things I'm happy about.

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GM Dude

I'm glad the Kosovans got the independence

they wanted, I just hope there isn't a third

Balkan War.........

 

@Pavlov: If that gets 'em going, I betcha the

Georgian authorities would soon have a hard

time getting them to simmer down, and then

that might lead to a war between the 3 of 'em,

but IDK though. Hopefully not.

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sofa_king

 

I bet George Bush will interfere liberate.

 

Fixed.

 

 

user posted image Woot!

 

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makeshyft

Ugh, please offer some insight if you post a news story. We need to know why you're posting it; how you feel about the story. As far as I'm concerned, if you post a news story without any personal commentary it is tantamount to spam.

 

I can neither agree or disagree with your stance, as you don't seem to have one.

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YourNeighborhoodKiller

All I can say is I'm happy with this. And I'm curious to see what our future brings us. (Besides another war)

 

If you live in New York you would of witnessed the celebration.

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Typhus

This is a sad day for humanity. A nation cannot even have an empire any more without a bunch of drugged up pinko bastards trying to spoil things. This Kosovo experiment will not last long. Sooner or later they'll go running back to Serbia, cap in hand and things will be as they should be once more.

 

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Stefan.

Is everyone here naive(except for Typhus)? Let me give you a rundown on the history of Kosovo.

 

Serbia originated in Kosovo; our culture, heritage and people come from there. In the early 1900's, Albanians from Albania move to Serbia for a better life. Albanians, being Muslims, have considerably larger families than us Christian Serbs. Naturally, the Albanian numbers started to rise. Starting in the early 1960's, Albanians decided to kill, rape and evict Serbs living in Kosovo. Those that survived moved north back into Serbia. However, these were all subtle and one-by-one, not full on massacres. Eventually, by the 1990's, Albanians form 90% of Kosovo's population, while Serbs number 5%. Our president, Slobodan Milosevic, put Serbian forces there to try and protect the Serbian people, yet the West (who sided with the Albanians, due to Albanians befriending them) took it upon themselves to go on a bombing campaign of Serbia for 3 months. So, we put in our troops to protect our people, and we deserve to get bombed? I admit, the Serbs were not exactly angels, but they were protecting themselves. My late grandmother had to survive bombing of her village while she could not walk; my dad says the nearest bomb to her village was less than a kilometre away. I went back to Serbia last year, and even in the capital, Belgrade, there are still buildings that are partially destroyed. And remember; we were bombed in 1999. Now, Milosevic takes out his troops, and the UN decides to put their troops there to protect both Albanians and Serbs. Now, Kosovo declares independance. I, quite frankly, find it as a pure form of injustice. Not only that, but their Prime Minister has been proven to be a murderer; in 1993, he and his friends killed 10 Serbian police officers, unprovoked. In fact, he still has an arrest warrant in Serbia. Their former Prime Minister is a war criminal, and killed 200 Serbian civilians, which breaks the Geneva Conventions. Yet he is still living peacefully somewhere in Albania.

 

By the way, do not necessarily believe what the media says in this matter. The west is strongly supporting Kosovans/Albanians, so all you will see on the news is as if the Serbs are evil. Although I may be in a somewhat biased position, what I am saying is, quite frankly, the truth, and nothing but the truth.

 

Yes, I know I am a Serb, but this is the truth. No matter what anyone says, you have to think, how should Kosovo be independant? The only ones supporting this are nationalistic and naive ethnic Albanians, and any narrow-minded human being. I am quite glad to see people with some sense in here; thank goodness.

 

KOSOVO IS SERBIA

 

/endtruth

 

By the way, YourNeighbourhoodKiller, Kosovo will end up becoming part of the most backwards country in Europe, Albania, or come running back to Serbia, knowing that they cannot survive like that.

 

Not only that, but the only countries really, openly supporting this are Albania, America and Britain. The vast, vast majority of EU countries are only supporting independance to not jeopardise their position as an EU nation, and also to please America. Most countries on earth will be supporting/disallowing independance to spite another country, or to make them happy. Take Taiwan for instance; the only reason they are supporting independance is to spite China, who are supporting Serbia.

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Guybrush Threepwood

 

Yes, I know I am a Serb, but this is the truth. No matter what anyone says..

 

...and naive ethnic Albanians, and any narrow-minded human being...

Apparently it's not mutually exclusive.

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Stefan.
Yes, I know I am a Serb, but this is the truth. No matter what anyone says..

 

...and naive ethnic Albanians, and any narrow-minded human being...

Apparently it's not mutually exclusive.

I did not call all Albanians naive, I was merely pointing out that Albanians who are naive support this.

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Typhus

 

Is everyone here naive?

 

 

This Kosovo experiment will not last long. Sooner or later they'll go running back to Serbia, cap in hand and things will be as they should be once more.

 

But no, no, you carry on thinking that. But the fact is that people were waving the Albanian flag. A nation has been born on a foundation of confusion. This will not last.

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Stefan.

Fixed mate. At least you are thinking straight.

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AndyGanteks

Because of US and EU making Kosovo inderpendant,a much bigger country-Serbia,is going to dissapear from the map...riots were in the 20 major cities and on the state line with Kosovo,every day much more people are on the streets,lots of destroyed property,US embassy in Belgrade(i even tossed a stone at it),McDonalds stores around town,French shops,Slovenian embassy...take a look what you did,how you lied at us,giving us false hope of visas and the entry in EU and everything else,and how you started the beggining od Serbia's total destruction ...take a look...

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7qtvKYAaNI

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPd1CDRbvaM

 

 

 

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JamesHarris135

the US will support Kosovo, it will be like another Isreal to them

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Typhus
the US will support Kosovo, it will be like another Isreal to them

It won't be the same though. Serbs are angry about this, hence the little riots here and there. And who supports the Serbs? Putin. And you know as well as I do that Putin's enemies have a way of...er, becoming very ill. Simply put, the retailiation of Serbia and her allies will throw a cog in the works. Is this because they are monsters? No. But because they feel wronged. The problem is that both sides are of the same opinion. I mean, what if Scotland became free? Or Wales? or Cornwall? Chaos, anarchy, blood in the streets. You carve a country up and you create violence. It happened in India, it happened in Ireland and it'll happen over there.

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