GTAfanboy Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Does anyone know if the Hunter attack helicopter is going to be back. If it's not does someone know if there is going to be an attack helicopter like it. Thanks. Please don't lock Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA3LK Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Isn't there like 3 sreenshots with the Hunter in them. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057500948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0rkeh Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Just look at the pictures, there is a hunter like copter with missiles and guns. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057500949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayt001 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Don't know if it's back yet. No vehicles have been confirmed, we can only go by what we have seen in trailers and screenshots. This helicopter does like quite mean, although it isn't the hunter. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057500953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Someguy Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Nah, that looks more like a black hawk. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057500954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargr Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 No that isn't a hunter, we haven't seen a Hunter in GTA IV yet. It was a blackhwack in that screenshot. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057500958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayt001 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 No that isn't a hunter, we haven't seen a Hunter in GTA IV yet. It was a blackhwack in that screenshot. I never said it was, in fact I said the opposite: although it isn't the hunter. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057500963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phs1234 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 That almost looks like a company chopper with the logo on the side. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057500966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
360 nut Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Isn't there like 3 sreenshots with the Hunter in them. the hunter is called the "raindancer"now Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057500967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAZEL Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Isn't there like 3 sreenshots with the Hunter in them. the hunter is called the "raindancer"now There was a Raindancer in San Andreas, too. Why would they rename the Hunter the same as another helicopter from the series? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057500973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAfanboy Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 Yeah i know that but has it been confirmed that it's the Hunter. If u look in the vehicles section of this site and go down to helicopter it has two helicopter. the Maverick and The Raindancer. there is no hunter there.so is the helicopter in the screenshots a hunter? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057500977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayt001 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Yeah i know that but has it been confirmed that it's the Hunter. If u look in the vehicles section of this site and go down to helicopter it has two helicopter. the Maverick and The Raindancer. there is no hunter there.so is the helicopter in the screenshots a hunter? No I said it isn't. We haven't seen the hunter yet. It probably is in though, just wait til the 29th of april. Geeez. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057500987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceOfDeath666 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 1. That's a Sikorsky UH-60 Blackhawk which is a Utility Helicopter 2. It has Winglets for weapons or External Tanks and every Trailer shows it with External tanks so i don't THINK this is the new hunter Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057501054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 The Raindancer is sometimes mistaken as a Hunter in the screenshots and trailers. The main thing that confuses people is that they are probably about the same size and the Raindancer seems to have miniguns or heavy weaponry on it. One of the most noticeable differences though are the nose of the helicopters, the resting position, and possibly the tail. I'm sure the Hunter is coming back though. The Raindancer seemed to have weaponry (or something that looked like weaponry) in SA but it was never used. Also, I hope that they still have the SeaSparrow and I hope it still has the minigun on it like in, I know atleast these GTAs, VC and SA. And with the 7th generation game consoles the shots from a minigun or gatlin gun would look and sound amazing. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057501123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceOfDeath666 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 The Hunter is based on the AH-64 Apache which has a different tail, shape, resting position, rotor blade shape, color, nose everything AH-64 Apache This is how the UH-60 Blackhawk is configured in the trailers with External Fuel Tanks NOT Guns Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057501163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
voteneg Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 The black helicopter we've seen in the trailers is a knockoff of the real life blackhawk helicopter. It was called the raindancer in San Andreas. Below I've attached a screen of the San Andreas model, a real life photo, and a few pictures of the new GTAIV model. Notice on the winglets we can see what appear to be mini-guns. Now for the hunter. Attached is an image of the GTA version and it's real life equivalent the Apache helicopter. In real life the differences between the apache and blackhawk are clear... they serve different role. The Apache is solely an attack heli, whereas the blackhawk is utility. Blackhawks can be outfitted with winglets like we see in the GTAIV version or without them as in the SanAn model. My theory is that the black Raindancer (as we know it) is replacing the Hunter... as in a Hunter will not be in the game. My theory is that R* decided it would be unrealistic and silly to have an attack helicopter in NYC/LBC. They instead substituted an upgraded Raindancer to fulfill its role. Many agencies such as the DEA, customs, coastgaurd, ATF, FBI, FAA, have blackhawks... some with offensive weaponry like the one in the screens. And the Raindancer is one of those agencies choppers. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057501175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
voteneg Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) This is how the UH-60 Blackhawk is configured in the trailers with External Fuel Tanks NOT Guns Thats incorrect. In the trailers the blackhawk/raindancer has mini guns on it. In real life it can be outfitted with them, external fuel tanks, or even heavier weapons like rocket missiles as seen in my post above. This picture proves it has miniguns not external fuel tanks. Edited February 13, 2008 by voteneg Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057501181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 @ AceOfDeath666: Well I knew the helicopter in the screenshots and trailers had attachments but I didn't know if they were weapons or something else. It's always good to bring extra fuel. And I hope this time the AH-64D Apache replaces the AH-64 Apache. You'll notice the color is more of a black and if you look at multiple pics. of the AH-64D Apache compared to multiple pics of the AH-64 Apache you'll notice some differences. Also the AH-64D Apache is more advance (of course). Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057501186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
voteneg Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) @ AceOfDeath666: Well I knew the helicopter in the screenshots and trailers had attachments but I didn't know if they were weapons or something else. It's always good to bring extra fuel. And I hope this time the AH-64D Apache replaces the AH-64 Apache. You'll notice the color is more of a black and if you look at multiple pics. of the AH-64D Apache compared to multiple pics of the AH-64 Apache you'll notice some differences. Also the AH-64D Apache is more advance (of course). ugh. you were right the first time. the blackhawk in the GTAIV screen shot DOES have machine guns on it. Once again look at my posts above. Edited February 13, 2008 by voteneg Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057501192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 @ AceOfDeath666: Well I knew the helicopter in the screenshots and trailers had attachments but I didn't know if they were weapons or something else. It's always good to bring extra fuel. And I hope this time the AH-64D Apache replaces the AH-64 Apache. You'll notice the color is more of a black and if you look at multiple pics. of the AH-64D Apache compared to multiple pics of the AH-64 Apache you'll notice some differences. Also the AH-64D Apache is more advance (of course). ugh. you were right the first time. the blackhawk in the GTAIV screen shots has machine guns on it. Once again look at my posts above. Yup, those are gatlin guns. Tear everything apart with those. I hope they also have an Apache with the Blackhawk. Two military attack helicopters are better than one. One thing I liked with SA was the wide variety of police, S.W.A.T., FBI, military, and camo colored vehicles (ones that are found in the military bases that are camo colored but aren't used as vigilante or military vehicles ex. the Cargobob and Patriot, however the Hydra is military since it shows up if you are in aircraft after I believe 5 stars even though it doesn't have Vigilante). The trio of the AH-64 Apache, AV-8 Harrier II, and M1A1 Abrams made an awesome combo in SA and the all had their advantages. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057501233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 So do you think both the civilian version of S-70 and the military UH-60 will be called "Raindance" in IV? Or will the UH-60 get a different name? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057501616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionist Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) I hope the Comanche replaces the Apache: We could do stunts with it, maybe with Sixaxis, and the cockpit view could have a HUD with nightvision. The nose gun could rotate with the camera: you can shoot whatever you can see... Edited February 13, 2008 by visionist Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057501790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAZEL Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 So do you think both the civilian version of S-70 and the military UH-60 will be called "Raindance" in IV? Or will the UH-60 get a different name? I'm sure there'll be quite a few different models of helicopters. Even though the huge debate about whether or not there would be planes in IV was rather silly, it must have given Rockstar a thing or two to think about. If there's more types of helicopters in the game now as a direct result of that debate, I don't know, but it seems logical that they would up the amount of helicopters now that we can't pilot airplanes. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057503213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daata Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 yes please Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057503238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bremsy Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I hope the Comanche replaces the Apache: We could do stunts with it, maybe with Sixaxis, and the cockpit view could have a HUD with nightvision. The nose gun could rotate with the camera: you can shoot whatever you can see... this heli will not be used as they are aiming for realisem and this Helicopter was a project that was abandoned Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057503305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 yes please You mean a Bell 430? It looks cool, but it isn't all that much faster than a Bell 206 JetRanger, aka Maverick. this heli will not be used as they are aiming for realisem and this Helicopter was a project that was abandoned There are a few operational prototypes in existence. But I still wouldn't look at it as an Apache replacement. It is an entirely different type of a helicopter. Comanche is a recon aircraft, and Apache is a CAS and Tank Hunter gunship. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057503421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daata Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 its been a long time since i was on the bell site is there any new ones Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057503431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 There is something in development, but Bell 430 is the most advanced they have for non-military uses. Thing is, even Apache isn't all that fast. Almost all helicopters fall somewhere within 100-180 knots range. It is not surprising, either. When you travel at 200 knots, if you want at least half of your retreating blade have some lift (realistically, you need more than that), the tip of the blade must be going 400 knots. That puts the advancing blade at 600 knots. And at 660 knots, you break the sound barrier. This creates rather bad control problems, and I don't think there is any known way to resolve these. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057503549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN1191 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I hope the Comanche replaces the Apache: We could do stunts with it, maybe with Sixaxis, and the cockpit view could have a HUD with nightvision. The nose gun could rotate with the camera: you can shoot whatever you can see... this heli will not be used as they are aiming for realisem and this Helicopter was a project that was abandoned Yea, but we're talkin R* here and we all know that realism only goes so far. I think the Comanche would make a good fit- plus, since its 'experimental' the arming hardpoints can be whatever they wanna put on it, not being constricted to real-world logistics. As long as they have a long range attack chopper with guns and missiles, I'll be happy, no matter what they call it or what its modeled after in RL. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057503573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceOfDeath666 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 This is how the UH-60 Blackhawk is configured in the trailers with External Fuel Tanks NOT Guns Thats incorrect. In the trailers the blackhawk/raindancer has mini guns on it. In real life it can be outfitted with them, external fuel tanks, or even heavier weapons like rocket missiles as seen in my post above. This picture proves it has miniguns not external fuel tanks. sry, every time i watch the trailers it's on my sh!tty pc monitor, but i downloaded the trailer this morning on my 360 and ur right sry Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/311958-hunter-helicopter/?do=findComment&comment=1057504221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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