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GTA IV competition watch 2008


Mike0
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Look at Saints Row 2

 

here

 

Just to put things in perspective. We dont apreciate GTA IV enough biggrin.gif

 

Dont want to start fanboy wars here. Just a topic.

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Look at Saints Row 2

 

here

What?

 

Definite fail.

 

BTW, this does not look good...for SR2.

 

What's with the pretty much identical graphics? I can already see 3 cars returning from SR1, bad move.

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GTA IV easily looks better. But this new stuff about framerates is making me panic. Ill be getting both games anyway.

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I think SR2 needs to find its own audience. They also probably are not aiming for 15 million copies sold biggrin.gif Couple millions is enough for SR2.

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That's not competition. That's just a mere cartoon.

 

Yeah there is something about Saints Row and SR2 that make the game look cartoony. I just can't pinpoint exactly.

 

GTA IV: icon14.gifrahkstar2.gif

SR+SR2: icon13.gificon13.gif

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Heres a whole gallery:

 

THQ presents:

 

A Volition Production:

 

Probably the GOTY of the year:

 

From the developers that brought us:

 

Red Faction

Red Faction II

Red Faction III (TBA Fiscal 09)

 

Employing Havok and SpeedTree technology combined with DirectX libraries from Microsoft

 

Playable on an HDTV®

 

Saint's Row II

 

sr2 gallery

 

 

Games will never be the same again.

 

 

 

 

BUT

 

 

 

 

There is one thing that Saints Row has. An official forum.

 

here

 

 

Thats nice biggrin.gif

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Oh stop hating on SR it's a good game, cartoony, but a good game, It's no GTA but it is a good copy though and I'm getting SR2. (oh yeah i just got 100% on SR 1 yesterday too btw tounge.gif) It has some things GTA lacks in. GTA still number one for me though.

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That's not competition. That's just a mere cartoon.

 

Yeah there is something about Saints Row and SR2 that make the game look cartoony. I just can't pinpoint exactly.

 

GTA IV: icon14.gifrahkstar2.gif

SR+SR2: icon13.gificon13.gif

It's the dull textures...it's all solid colors like a cartoon.

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Volition Inc. also has a tour of their offices:

 

 

on their site

 

 

 

Why doesnt Rockstar have this? Rockstar has everything top secret smile.gif

R* doesn't need this, the GTA series is already known, however SR is a new franchise they have to make as much promotion as they can to get the people.

 

 

Just like every GTA until IV. Where's the problem?

 

Exactly, we just got some hardcore gta fanboys that think gta4 is god or something, GTA 4 is gonna be good, and I am a fan, but come now it's not the ONLY game in the world, it's a genre. No need to bash other games that try to be like it.

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Oh stop hating on SR it's a good game, cartoony, but a good game, It's no GTA but it is a good copy though and I'm getting SR2. (oh yeah i just got 100% on SR 1 yesterday too btw tounge.gif) It has some things GTA lacks in. GTA still number one for me though.

Thats because it was made after GTA bored.gif

 

Anyway I thought SR2 was going to look better then that. I'm not a graphics whore by any means but they don't seem to have even tried to improve the look of it.

 

 

Probably the GOTY of the year:

Is this what it says for real? Don't they know that GOTY is Game of the Year? So it's going to be Game of the Year of the Year?? confused.gif I'm not going to lie SR has a huge fan base but I'd say 99.9% of that fan base were just trying to play something that resembled GTA.

 

Now don't call me racist or anything, but I never liked SR because of the characters in it. All your homies are either the same type of black guy which you can never find, or a white girl (WTF) or white guy (i guess I can see it confused.gif ). It just doesn't give me the Gangster feel when I'm rollin six deep with two white girls, a fat asian guy, and 3 white guys. If anyone was offended by that then my bad, its just how I felt. whatsthat.gif

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Volition Inc. also has a tour of their offices:

 

 

on their site

 

 

 

Why doesnt Rockstar have this? Rockstar has everything top secret smile.gif

R* doesn't need this, the GTA series is already known, however SR is a new franchise they have to make as much promotion as they can to get the people.

Word.

 

Rockstar could do it if they wanted it, but they dont want to be bothered. Each developer has its own "style".

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I was just kidding with the GOTY stuff.

 

Atleast SR has some humour in it. It should be a fun game.

 

 

Admins you can lock this topic if you feel that its on the verge of a fanboy war. Or that its off topic.

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Oh stop hating on SR it's a good game, cartoony, but a good game, It's no GTA but it is a good copy though and I'm getting SR2. (oh yeah i just got 100% on SR 1 yesterday too btw tounge.gif) It has  some things GTA lacks in. GTA still number one for me though.

Thats because it was made after GTA bored.gif

 

It's a genre, it's not necessarily made after GTA.

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Oh stop hating on SR it's a good game, cartoony, but a good game, It's no GTA but it is a good copy though and I'm getting SR2. (oh yeah i just got 100% on SR 1 yesterday too btw tounge.gif) It has  some things GTA lacks in. GTA still number one for me though.

Thats because it was made after GTA bored.gif

 

It's a genre, it's not necessarily made after GTA.

After as in time.... dozingoff.gif

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Oh stop hating on SR it's a good game, cartoony, but a good game, It's no GTA but it is a good copy though and I'm getting SR2. (oh yeah i just got 100% on SR 1 yesterday too btw tounge.gif) It has  some things GTA lacks in. GTA still number one for me though.

Thats because it was made after GTA bored.gif

 

It's a genre, it's not necessarily made after GTA.

After as in time.... dozingoff.gif

So then I guess you were referring to what I said about it having what GTA lacks in, what's wrong with that? I don't think it's doing anything wrong by doing that regardless if GTA came first. I mean we all know GTA isn't perfect ..... right?

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Oh stop hating on SR it's a good game, cartoony, but a good game, It's no GTA but it is a good copy though and I'm getting SR2. (oh yeah i just got 100% on SR 1 yesterday too btw tounge.gif) It has  some things GTA lacks in. GTA still number one for me though.

Thats because it was made after GTA bored.gif

 

It's a genre, it's not necessarily made after GTA.

After as in time.... dozingoff.gif

So then I guess you were referring to what I said about it having what GTA lacks in, what's wrong with that? I don't think it's doing anything wrong by doing that regardless if GTA came first. I mean we all know GTA isn't perfect ..... right?

I never said there was anything wrong. I was merely stating that it is easy for something to look better then something else if it is made years after the other thing... Like if you make a game now, then I make one in a year. My game would probably be better in comparison, because I had the time to study your game, see what it was missing, add those things then improve on the things you did. See what I mean? I hear people saying "This is way better then SA" well of course it is (kinda, not really).

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Oh stop hating on SR it's a good game, cartoony, but a good game, It's no GTA but it is a good copy though and I'm getting SR2. (oh yeah i just got 100% on SR 1 yesterday too btw tounge.gif) It has  some things GTA lacks in. GTA still number one for me though.

Thats because it was made after GTA bored.gif

 

It's a genre, it's not necessarily made after GTA.

After as in time.... dozingoff.gif

So then I guess you were referring to what I said about it having what GTA lacks in, what's wrong with that? I don't think it's doing anything wrong by doing that regardless if GTA came first. I mean we all know GTA isn't perfect ..... right?

I never said there was anything wrong. I was merely stating that it is easy for something to look better then something else if it is made years after the other thing... Like if you make a game now, then I make one in a year. My game would probably be better in comparison, because I had the time to study your game, see what it was missing, add those things then improve on the things you did. See what I mean? I hear people saying "This is way better then SA" well of course it is (kinda, not really).

Oh yeah I agree, I just thought you stated that fact because maybe you thought there was something wrong with SR trying to be like GTA or it being better than SA (Which in my opinion, it's not, but it's still one of my fav games.)

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Yeah, they even have a special thread for game play ideas which is really good in my opinion.

 

I don't think R* needs a forum though because sites like these are good enough.

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That game looks terrible compaired to Gta 4. sad.gif

 

I feel bad for complaing about rockstar after looking at them.

 

This just shows how hard Rockstar works to make their game the best. rahkstar2.gif

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Rockstar also put more money in the game. Because they can afford it and because GTA is a very known brand with mass apeal.

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Rockstar also put more money in the game. Because they can afford it and because GTA is a very known brand with mass apeal.

Do you know how much it cost to make gta 4 and saint row 2.

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Oh yeah I agree, I just thought you stated that fact because maybe you thought there was something wrong with SR trying to be like GTA or it being better than SA (Which in my opinion, it's not, but it's still one of my fav games.)

Naw dude, I liked it, it just didn't feel right. And I do agree, SR did do some things that R* should have done butwe al learn something new.

 

 

Can you imagine if R* had one?

That place wouldn't last three seconds. Within it's opening there would be like a million members and over a billion threads. mercie_blink.gif

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This isn't looking good for SR2. I was planning on buying it when it comes out, but now... These screenshots are awful.

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I just got the first SR; I've never played it before, all I know is its a GTA clone. Personally, I think the graphics in SR are better than what was first released in SA for the PS2 but then, it should as its a next-gen release when SA was a PS2 and then ported to Xbox.

 

Having said that, the cartoony aspect is put to good use; it takes some of the sting off the violence. This goes back to that whole uncanny valley thing; if they look too realistic, would it be fun to perform mass murder on people who think, walk and react like actual humans do? Who knows? Who cares?

 

SR is a GTA clone, we all know it. It is a good game in its own right. GTA IV is set to eclipse the sandbox genre- it isn't remaking it, it is reshaping it, just like GTA III did.

 

You can't compare a Toyota Prius with a Mercedes Gelandewagen; it just doesn't work. Yes they both require gas, and move on 4 wheels and start using electronic ignition- but thats about as much as you can compare the two. I feel the same way with SR2 and GTA IV; of course, I've been a GTA fan for quite some time so I'm a little biased.

 

As soon as I finish Assassins Creed (for the 2nd time) I'll give SR a spin. Or should I do COD4 first? Choices, choices!

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