School Buses & Schools?

[tinman187]

No way, kids dont belong in the GTA world. Thats like having Nsync collaborate with Wutang.

[KidDala]

I'm still right.

 

You must be right since you have no supporting evidence

LOL I wuz gonna say it...But u did it for me...Me & U-1 Point....Ceedot-0 LOL

Oh, I guess you don't understand sarcasm.

'You must be right since you have no supporting evidence.' How the f*ck does that make sence unless it's sarcasm.

I was explaining how stupid you are.

Guess I don't have to say anything anymore now since you just proved it.

What are you talking about?

 

the other guy said "You must be right because you have no supporting evidence" to you. I realized that this was sarcasm...So I said "I would of said it but u did for me" I was acknowledging that this was sarcasm when he said "you must be right" and I knew that really meant "you must be wrong" and i was saying I would of said the same thing to you if it wasnt for him beating me to it.

 

So my question is...

 

Where does this prove my stupidity?

[KidDala]

First of all, lay off the New Topic button.

 

Second, they won't be in. They never have, they never will. Too much controversy and parents complaining that their kids are being impacted when they shouldn't have bought the game for them in the first place.

But how can you say that? It hasnt been confirmed either way.And noone knows if the peds in the 1st trailer with backpacks are college kids or highschoolers?I mean nonone knows how can you say its a fact they wont be in IV?

Say they put them in. What will that do for them? What good will that do for them?

 

None.

All it will do is cause controversy, a heap of lawsuits and heaps of complaints.

But maybe your right. Maybe Rockstar just want another 'hot coffee' bunch of ass pains again. You must be right since you have no supporting evidence for them to be in the game.

 

Guess I'm wrong.

He didnt say you were wrong?

 

Its just that you cant speak up for R* as if you understand why they do the things they do when all you have to base your ideas on are on assumptions. Your guess is just as good as theirs and everyone elses.

 

The person asked perfectly legitimate questions, and as far as I can tell you didnt answer any of them; rather you asked questions of your own. You ask him why students need to be in the game. I'll ask you this: Why do old people need to be in the game, and what purpose do they serve?

 

And Hot Coffee. OOooOoo all of a sudden its the spokesman of controversies. Truth be told the GTA franchise has been linked with controversy since day one. We can easily say R* knows how to handle themselves quite well a decade into its existance. So do you really think alittle stur amongst the masses is going to stop them from doing what it is they do?

No "proof" that killable kids won't be in IV is needed. All that's needed is a little thing called common sense. Ever heard of it?

Yes I have. Common sense also tells me that things such as Hot Coffee & All Of GTAs features arent usually confirmed until the games out.

[chapman_bobby]

I'm ashamed to live in a world where kids can't be in videogames to kill, molest, etc... I also find people's response to 9/11 disgusting. How everything had to be censored because of some dumbsh*ts. I'd make a game where you play as a terrorist and reenact 9/11. Everyone sucks cock... Unenlightened, evangelical Christian motherf*ckers..

I agree that our rights are being suspended due to a few people who could not find a more diplomatic solution than murdering innocent people, even if we aren't exactly cautious of who we kill at all times. I feel that by suspending our rights, they have, in a sense, won their cause which is supposedly that they hate us because of our freedoms. Suspending the rights of people in a free society should have come with a bigger outcry from the people, however we just sit back and accept our fate as if there was nothing we could do to change it.

 

I do disagree however, with the idea that the lack of children would be a result of terrorism, but rather by ignorant mothers raging against intellect and common sense, which I suppose could be considered terroristic in their own way. These mothers refuse to accept that the medium of video games is no longer a child's toy but an interactive way to tell a story. The stories are now depicted towards adults and children alike, and in their failure to understand, they've begun to vilify video games as a destructive tool which was created to corrupt if not destroy their children and their youthful innocence.

 

I feel that the world created by Rockstar are immersive enough without children. Their lack of inclusion does not deduct from the game in any way. Running over shorter NPCs would feel the same, if not elicit at least a faint sense of guilt.

 

The simple answer is that some people don't want to kill kids, and in a world like GTA, if they are there, eventually one will get killed via negligence or carelessness on the players part. If it was possible to enable or disable children, that would be one thing, but to have them there regardless would be a turn off to some players, and that is not a smart business move for Rockstar. This is of course suffice to mention the monetary expense of defending their right in court against the many people who would be, no doubt, suing Rockstar games.

Financially it's just a better decision to leave them out.

 

-Bobby

 

PS: I can say with a fair amount of certainty this entire post will not be read and was, in fact, a waste of my rather worthless time. The post was written merely to relieve boredom at work rather than to actually offer new or insightful information as I'm sure my entire post has been stated in much more simple, as well as complex terms, many times before.

[Body Politic]

Students/Teenagers are more likely to pick up a gun and shoot people.

He's right, don't doubt it for a second. See, this study came from a test with thousands of people, half were adults, half were teenagers. I couldn't resist. I picked up the gun and shot everyone there. Thereby proving that kids are definatly more prone to killing people.

[chapman_bobby]

Students/Teenagers are more likely to pick up a gun and shoot people.

He's right, don't doubt it for a second. See, this study came from a test with thousands of people, half were adults, half were teenagers. I couldn't resist. I picked up the gun and shot everyone there. Thereby proving that kids are definatly more prone to killing people.

The studies are usually conducted by psychological variables in which a violent person's mind displays similar characteristics and stress patterns as those of students and teenagers. Generally by college the stress levels spike again, but not quite to the degree as during puberty. College students generally are more isolated from their parents and make decisions such as drug usage and poor dieting, both of which can help reduce stress. The easily adaptive and changing minds and hormones of an adolescent combined with an acclimatization to violence due to violent media intake such as angry music, movies, and games, makes a student or teen more likely to be inclined to find a solution via violence, and if a gun is available...

[KidDala]

^

Hot Coffee cases.

No need to put them in.

Too much controversy and bullsh*t for something that is worth nothing. No humour, not anything.

 

 

But how can you say that? It hasnt been confirmed either way.And noone knows if the peds in the 1st trailer with backpacks are college kids or highschoolers?I mean nonone knows how can you say its a fact they wont be in IV?

 

Say they put them in. What will that do for them? What good will that do for them?

 

None.

All it will do is cause controversy, a heap of lawsuits and heaps of complaints.

But maybe your right. Maybe Rockstar just want another 'hot coffee' bunch of ass pains again.

 

That's really not my supporting evidence.

I don't need 'official' evidence, because any smart person would know Rockstar aren't stupid enough to do that.

There you go again making assumptions and calling it evidence.

 

This is what I read from your post

 

"I dont need evidence, because I just know."

 

That is not evidence. That is talking out of your ass; something that youre apparently very good at doing.

 

 

You want to talk about how adding schools will give kids a good enough reason to shoot up their own schools. How about the mobs of officers you gun down in the game, or the innocent bystanders left behind after you barrage city hall with RPGs. Those things happen all the time all over the world. R* must of had something to do with it.

 

Games dont give kid's stupid ideas. Stupid kids do stupid things and find ways of excusing themselves. And thanks to Mom witnessing Little Johnny playing GTA she now has everything other than her son to blame for his incredibly stupid actions. What ever happened to alittle thing called Personal Responsibility? You think R* is going to account for all the dumb things people do? That theyre going to be used as some sort of scapegoat that takes it up the ass willingly?

 

OH NOES! COLUMBINE LOLZ

 

Yeah, because that was the first time a school has been shot up in the history of mankind. You're right. R* doesnt need that sh*t. In fact, they dont need to do anything. The murders on the street are due to people playing GTA. Same goes for car theft and robberies. All of the bad things that are happening all over the world only happened because of GTA.

 

 

R* needs to send a shining example for everyone, because that is what they have and continue to do though. You're completely correct, Ceedot.

You're correct on all that except columbine being the first shooting. There were many school shootings before columbine. Before video games existed.

That was sarcasm.

 

I think ceedot actually believes that though, and if I think it is it must be true (brought to you by ceedot logic).

Cry me a river.

 

Kids won't be in the game and that's final.

When a kid picks up the controller and plays, he may kill kids in the game. They see that as fun. They see it as right.

Younger people get influenced by stuff like that. It's the parents fault for letting them play.

 

Kids in GTA will just bring controversy to Rockstar, and for what? To add something that hasn't been in the other games? Are people going to restrain themself from buying GTA because there are no kids?

Didn't think so.

 

If kids are in the game, I'll tell the whole world I was wrong, and I'll embarrass myself.

Cry you a river? What? So much to say with such little relevance.

 

Students dont equal kids so stop talking about them as if they were synonyms. The op didnt even mention kids to begin with. He simply asked if theyd have schools and buses. Why? Because cities have schools and buses just like how they have churches. But no, wait, its fine to have churches in the game since thatd obviously equate to having members of the clergy as peds. Killing priests is just fine, as long as the priest isnt a kid.

 

FatLouie is right. The lot of you are f*cking hypocrites. You either condone murdering the innocent or you dont. Dangling on either side of the fence doesnt make you any more of a saint than you pretend to be.

 

"Its the parent's fault! Thats why R* has to atone for other people's, especially the poor influential kids', judgment".

 

That makes no sense at all. If its not your fault so why are you being punished and why should you say sorry. Why do you need to explain to someone else that you'll never do it again when it had NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

 

 

Are people going to restrain themself from buying GTA because there are no kids?

 

Yeah? Because maybe some people (god forbid) have moral standards?

 

 

So much focus on kids when this topic was originally discussing the possibilities of schools and buses. You can have both and not include kids. Its really as simple as that. Just like how you can have a church and not include the clergy, and if they do you'll no where R*'s stand is: Anything goes.

 

 

 

No "proof" that killable kids won't be in IV is needed. All that's needed is a little thing called common sense. Ever heard of it?

 

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! ZING!!!!

 

 

If youre going to speak for R* and claim something for a fact you need proof and nothing short of it. Otherwise its nothing but an ASSUMPTION. I must of missed the meeting when assumptions (disguised as "common sense lol") became fact. Why didnt I get a memo?

 

Look at all the posts and find where I said R* will have kids; killable ones at that. Did I say that? No? So why do *I* need proof?

 

Now, try to find a post where I said they WONT have kids. No luck? Too bad.

 

 

Im curious. What does common sense tell you? You seem to know much about this bizarre idea. How does common sense dictate the decision made when it comes to putting kids, students of all ages, school buses, and schools into IV; and how does this negate the means for any sort of proof when one speaks on the behalf of a company? You must talk about all of this as this is what the whole topic has come down to.

 

Personally common sense would tell me its wrong to shoot a cop, but there it is making up the backbone of an entire series of games which spawned a whole new genre which revolves around mass murder and mayhem. But thats just me.

Exactly What I wanted to say...Im just too lazy to write all that

[Tradios]

OMG, that is the longest quote I've ever seen.

 

ontopic: I like the idea of school buses, but I think making schools with kids you can kill would be a mistake.

[Str8OuttaBohan]

Well KidDala is my cousin. He's real big on this "Kids In GTA thing".

 

Here's My opinion:

 

1.There wont be any elementary or middle schoolers because thats just heartless & rockstar would never get the game released.

 

2.The possibility of older highschoolers & college students is just as possible as any other unproven claim in my book

 

3.There are definitly pedestrians with backpacks on in Trailer 1 and in some screenshots or caps not sure which. But its not a glitch so stop saying that just to prove your points you idiots.

 

4.In my opinion a university would be just enough controversy to stir up sh*t(Cuzza VA Tech) but should still keep the M rating since the students'll be over 18. So that possibility is what im leaning towards.

 

[nickwuzheer]

I'm ashamed to live in a world where kids can't be in videogames to kill, molest, etc... I also find people's response to 9/11 disgusting. How everything had to be censored because of some dumbsh*ts. I'd make a game where you play as a terrorist and reenact 9/11. Everyone sucks cock... Unenlightened, evangelical Christian motherf*ckers..

 

 

 

wow...

 

you stupid peice of sh*t... i hope you fall into the same pit that you came out of and die.

 

people like you just sicken me...

[GamerShotgun]

OMFG..You guys really want R* to delay the game to an october release of 2009... If it get's AO rating, then don't expect it to be released soon....

 

 

[crux989]

crux is getting mega cut x 50.

Kids, students whatever won't be in GTA. Students/Teenagers are more likely to pick up a gun and shoot people.

Still rehashing the same old stuff thats been addressed dozens of times. I thought someone as intelligent as the almighty Ceedot would have more to say. How dumb I must feel right about now to assume atleast that much.

 

Why are students (because students and kids are the same thing here) more likely to pick up a gun than any other social group? Its the video games? HO SHI---

 

 

We better do something soon. Otherwise the kids will be slashing puppies for experience points, racing down streets with their 900 hp lawl superas, and sucking the life force out of children after killing their daddy's. The games will do it. You will see.

 

Those influential little bastards always murdering cops with their easily accessible sawnoffs are ruining our fun.

[matt_hrkac]

 

I'm ashamed to live in a world where kids can't be in videogames to kill, molest, etc...  I also find people's response to 9/11 disgusting.  How everything had to be censored because of some dumbsh*ts.  I'd make a game where you play as a terrorist and reenact 9/11.  Everyone sucks cock...  Unenlightened, evangelical Christian motherf*ckers..

 

 

 

wow...

 

you stupid peice of sh*t... i hope you fall into the same pit that you came out of and die.

 

people like you just sicken me...

i agree, the person who wrote that makes me want to throw up seriosly i cannot recall a game that has had kids in it to kill and if it did people would complain and the game would be taken off thne shelf if it was lucky enough to be released

especualy when you mention 9/11 that idea makes me sick to my ass! so stop being racist!!

no offence...??

Edited January 23, 2008 by matt_hrkac

[ceedot]

 

crux is getting mega cut x 50.

Kids, students whatever won't be in GTA. Students/Teenagers are more likely to pick up a gun and shoot people.

Still rehashing the same old stuff thats been addressed dozens of times. I thought someone as intelligent as the almighty Ceedot would have more to say. How dumb I must feel right about now to assume atleast that much.

 

Why are students (because students and kids are the same thing here) more likely to pick up a gun than any other social group? Its the video games? HO SHI---

 

 

We better do something soon. Otherwise the kids will be slashing puppies for experience points, racing down streets with their 900 hp lawl superas, and sucking the life force out of children after killing their daddy's. The games will do it. You will see.

 

Those influential little bastards always murdering cops with their easily accessible sawnoffs are ruining our fun.

Games do effect people. People who aren't all there in the head. You can't say everyone is all lady da with games, and won't be influenced. My little cousin was playing GTA, and I made him stop because he had fun running over people.

 

If you think that no one get's effected, then you are an ignorant asshole, more than you already are now.

[crux989]

crux is getting mega cut x 50.

Kids, students whatever won't be in GTA. Students/Teenagers are more likely to pick up a gun and shoot people.

Still rehashing the same old stuff thats been addressed dozens of times. I thought someone as intelligent as the almighty Ceedot would have more to say. How dumb I must feel right about now to assume atleast that much.

 

Why are students (because students and kids are the same thing here) more likely to pick up a gun than any other social group? Its the video games? HO SHI---

 

 

We better do something soon. Otherwise the kids will be slashing puppies for experience points, racing down streets with their 900 hp lawl superas, and sucking the life force out of children after killing their daddy's. The games will do it. You will see.

 

Those influential little bastards always murdering cops with their easily accessible sawnoffs are ruining our fun.

Games do effect people. People who aren't all there in the head. You can't say everyone is all lady da with games, and won't be influenced. My little cousin was playing GTA, and I made him stop because he had fun running over people.

 

If you think that no one get's effected, then you are an ignorant asshole, more than you already are now.

Yes, games affect people just like movies, music, television, comics, social class, friends, family, the weather, whether you ate beans for lunch or not, cigarettes, porn, tight fitting pants, winning, losing, e. coli, butterflies, puppy dogs, kitty cats, global warming, AIDS, erectile dysfunction, break dancing, snow boarding, bikes with flat tires, dead batteries, obesity, Jews, and ESPECIALLY cowboy hats. I can garuntee that if a kid were to shoot up his school it wouldnt be just because he was playing a violent video game, but because of ALL of the elements in his environment.

 

Blaming R* for other people's mistakes is like blaming the gun manufacturer for all the accidents and murders caused by guns. It goes back to what I was saying about personal responsibility; accounting for your own dumb actions.

 

 

 

Ps

 

 

You can't say everyone is all lady da with games, and won't be influenced.

 

I didnt.

 

la di da

 

[ceedot]

crux is getting mega cut x 50.

Kids, students whatever won't be in GTA. Students/Teenagers are more likely to pick up a gun and shoot people.

Still rehashing the same old stuff thats been addressed dozens of times. I thought someone as intelligent as the almighty Ceedot would have more to say. How dumb I must feel right about now to assume atleast that much.

 

Why are students (because students and kids are the same thing here) more likely to pick up a gun than any other social group? Its the video games? HO SHI---

 

 

We better do something soon. Otherwise the kids will be slashing puppies for experience points, racing down streets with their 900 hp lawl superas, and sucking the life force out of children after killing their daddy's. The games will do it. You will see.

 

Those influential little bastards always murdering cops with their easily accessible sawnoffs are ruining our fun.

Games do effect people. People who aren't all there in the head. You can't say everyone is all lady da with games, and won't be influenced. My little cousin was playing GTA, and I made him stop because he had fun running over people.

 

If you think that no one get's effected, then you are an ignorant asshole, more than you already are now.

Yes, games affect people just like movies, music, television, comics, social class, friends, family, the weather, whether you ate beans for lunch or not, cigarettes, porn, tight fitting pants, winning, losing, e. coli, butterflies, puppy dogs, kitty cats, global warming, AIDS, erectile dysfunction, break dancing, snow boarding, bikes with flat tires, dead batteries, obesity, Jews, and ESPECIALLY cowboy hats. I can garuntee that if a kid were to shoot up his school it wouldnt be just because he was playing a violent video game, but because of ALL of the elements in his environment.

 

Blaming R* for other people's mistakes is like blaming the gun manufacturer for all the accidents and murders caused by guns. It goes back to what I was saying about personal responsibility; accounting for your own dumb actions.

 

 

 

Ps

 

 

You can't say everyone is all lady da with games, and won't be influenced.

 

I didnt.

 

la di da

 

But people blame Rockstar. And people believe it because polititians and lawyers say it effected them, and parents believe that sh*t.

 

 

Exactly why Rockstar aren't adding kids or teenagers.

[crux989]

They can blame R* all they want just like how they can blame Rock & Roll (TEH DEVILS MUSIC LOL). None of it holds up in court. How many cases have you actually seen where a medium was blamed for the killings of another? And how many of those cases have won? Unless the artist was physically responsible youve got no case.

 

R* doesnt have to put kids or students in their game to be blamed for something. Theyve been accused and rediculed for YEARS. Theyve even said Screw It and added a sex mini game. Thats how much they cared.

 

Now youre trying to tell me that they arent doing something because theyre scared? If they didnt want the heat, or werent even ready for it, they wouldnt be in the business.

 

Oh. And great job protecting your cousin from the bad game. Kids dont need to be playing or viewing mature content. And as futile as it is to shield them from the evils of the world, atleast you're taking personal responsibility. Games, like guns on pron, have buyer regulations. People of certain ages can buy or own said objects. Once its in the buyer's home its up to the owner or anyone in charge to make sure it doesnt fall into the "wrong" hands. You cant blame anyone else but yourself if something were to happen. Not the maker, not the seller; You.

 

So way to go. You actually understand that the game maker isnt responsible for what happens with their games and who plays them any more so than the gun maker has a say in who or what the buyer decides to shoot at. Congratulations.

[YourNeighborhoodKiller]

I remember Driver 2 for PSone had school buses, but of course no one was inside except the bus driver.

[pisskidney]

I'm ashamed to live in a world where kids can't be in videogames to kill, molest, etc... I also find people's response to 9/11 disgusting. How everything had to be censored because of some dumbsh*ts. I'd make a game where you play as a terrorist and reenact 9/11. Everyone sucks cock... Unenlightened, evangelical Christian motherf*ckers..

Very good.

 

Although a little insensitive it shows how much we let people affect our way of life, which essentially is what terrorism is for. Ironic?

 

Let's start a 'should we be able to re-enact various terrorist attacks and beat up children for kicks' thread.

 

I for one would like to abuse a kitten.

 

Just for anti-spam, I don't think this will happen, and I can see why. It's a bit of a drag because they arrested me for mass infanticide this side of reality.

[dodgeviper500]

and Hope just decides its the Christians fault .. thats stupid

[jdohb]

There should be kids in GTA.

Except it should be Quentin Tarantino's "Hostel" style.

 

Excellent!!

[fishermanGTA]

 

There's no point for them. Basically, if a kid picks up this game and sees an adult kill a bunch of kids, especially if he does it, he will think it's right, and he will most likely do it himself.

 

What's so fun about kids in the game anyway. It's a game about murder, and survival, not tellytubbies.

I think you are defending the WRONG point here.

It seems like you believe that video games like GTA

make people do bad things like kill people. There is no

evidence that they do that at all, and all it really is, is

families trying to squeeze money out of R*, and giving

people like Thompson a reason the be in the buisness.

 

EDIT:

 

Myself and all of the people I know who have played GTA, have never commited a mass killing spree. Seems like

you are only pushing Thompsons point further and further.

[smthrlr]

 

^

Hot Coffee cases.

No need to put them in.

Too much controversy and bullsh*t for something that is worth nothing. No humour, not anything.

 

 

But how can you say that? It hasnt been confirmed either way.And noone knows if the peds in the 1st trailer with backpacks are college kids or highschoolers?I mean nonone knows how can you say its a fact they wont be in IV?

 

Say they put them in. What will that do for them? What good will that do for them?

 

None.

All it will do is cause controversy, a heap of lawsuits and heaps of complaints.

But maybe your right. Maybe Rockstar just want another 'hot coffee' bunch of ass pains again.

 

That's really not my supporting evidence.

I don't need 'official' evidence, because any smart person would know Rockstar aren't stupid enough to do that.

There you go again making assumptions and calling it evidence.

 

This is what I read from your post

 

"I dont need evidence, because I just know."

 

That is not evidence. That is talking out of your ass; something that youre apparently very good at doing.

 

 

You want to talk about how adding schools will give kids a good enough reason to shoot up their own schools. How about the mobs of officers you gun down in the game, or the innocent bystanders left behind after you barrage city hall with RPGs. Those things happen all the time all over the world. R* must of had something to do with it.

 

Games dont give kid's stupid ideas. Stupid kids do stupid things and find ways of excusing themselves. And thanks to Mom witnessing Little Johnny playing GTA she now has everything other than her son to blame for his incredibly stupid actions. What ever happened to alittle thing called Personal Responsibility? You think R* is going to account for all the dumb things people do? That theyre going to be used as some sort of scapegoat that takes it up the ass willingly?

 

OH NOES! COLUMBINE LOLZ

 

Yeah, because that was the first time a school has been shot up in the history of mankind. You're right. R* doesnt need that sh*t. In fact, they dont need to do anything. The murders on the street are due to people playing GTA. Same goes for car theft and robberies. All of the bad things that are happening all over the world only happened because of GTA.

 

 

R* needs to send a shining example for everyone, because that is what they have and continue to do though. You're completely correct, Ceedot.

You're correct on all that except columbine being the first shooting. There were many school shootings before columbine. Before video games existed.

That was sarcasm.

 

I think ceedot actually believes that though, and if I think it is it must be true (brought to you by ceedot logic).

Cry me a river.

 

Kids won't be in the game and that's final.

When a kid picks up the controller and plays, he may kill kids in the game. They see that as fun. They see it as right.

Younger people get influenced by stuff like that. It's the parents fault for letting them play.

 

Kids in GTA will just bring controversy to Rockstar, and for what? To add something that hasn't been in the other games? Are people going to restrain themself from buying GTA because there are no kids?

Didn't think so.

 

If kids are in the game, I'll tell the whole world I was wrong, and I'll embarrass myself.

Cry you a river? What? So much to say with such little relevance.

 

Students dont equal kids so stop talking about them as if they were synonyms. The op didnt even mention kids to begin with. He simply asked if theyd have schools and buses. Why? Because cities have schools and buses just like how they have churches. But no, wait, its fine to have churches in the game since thatd obviously equate to having members of the clergy as peds. Killing priests is just fine, as long as the priest isnt a kid.

 

FatLouie is right. The lot of you are f*cking hypocrites. You either condone murdering the innocent or you dont. Dangling on either side of the fence doesnt make you any more of a saint than you pretend to be.

 

"Its the parent's fault! Thats why R* has to atone for other people's, especially the poor influential kids', judgment".

 

That makes no sense at all. If its not your fault so why are you being punished and why should you say sorry. Why do you need to explain to someone else that you'll never do it again when it had NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

 

 

Are people going to restrain themself from buying GTA because there are no kids?

 

Yeah? Because maybe some people (god forbid) have moral standards?

 

 

So much focus on kids when this topic was originally discussing the possibilities of schools and buses. You can have both and not include kids. Its really as simple as that. Just like how you can have a church and not include the clergy, and if they do you'll no where R*'s stand is: Anything goes.

 

 

 

No "proof" that killable kids won't be in IV is needed. All that's needed is a little thing called common sense. Ever heard of it?

 

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! ZING!!!!

 

 

If youre going to speak for R* and claim something for a fact you need proof and nothing short of it. Otherwise its nothing but an ASSUMPTION. I must of missed the meeting when assumptions (disguised as "common sense lol") became fact. Why didnt I get a memo?

 

Look at all the posts and find where I said R* will have kids; killable ones at that. Did I say that? No? So why do *I* need proof?

 

Now, try to find a post where I said they WONT have kids. No luck? Too bad.

 

 

Im curious. What does common sense tell you? You seem to know much about this bizarre idea. How does common sense dictate the decision made when it comes to putting kids, students of all ages, school buses, and schools into IV; and how does this negate the means for any sort of proof when one speaks on the behalf of a company? You must talk about all of this as this is what the whole topic has come down to.

 

Personally common sense would tell me its wrong to shoot a cop, but there it is making up the backbone of an entire series of games which spawned a whole new genre which revolves around mass murder and mayhem. But thats just me.

Oh wow. You're a clever one, there, crux.

 

"all the posts where *you* said GTA IV will have kids?" Don't care.

 

"all the posts where *you* said the game wouldn't?" Don't care about that either.

 

All I care about is that common sense (a term which you seem to misunderstand) tells me, as it should anyone, that comparing shooting a cop to killing defenseless kids is an exercise in idiocy. Try and use your head. How many movies that involve the gratuitous murder of gun-toting cops have made millions? There are too many to name. How many portray kids getting gratuitously maimed/killed? I cannot think of any. Killing kids is something that will simply never be accepted on the silver screen, and thusly never accepted in the video gaming universe.

 

That should be all that's needed to put an end to this ridiculous thread. End of story.

Edited January 24, 2008 by smthrlr

[Rick88]

Oh wow. You're a clever one, there, crux.

 

"all the posts where *you* said GTA IV will have kids?" Don't care.

 

"all the posts where *you* said the game wouldn't?" Don't care about that either.

 

All I care about is that common sense (a term which you seem to misunderstand) tells me, as it should anyone, that comparing shooting a cop to killing defenseless kids is an exercise in idiocy. Try and use your head. How many movies that involve the gratuitous murder of gun-toting cops have made millions? There are too many to name. How many portray kids getting gratuitously maimed/killed? I cannot think of any. Killing kids is something that will simply never be accepted on the silver screen, and thusly never accepted in the video gaming universe.

 

That should be all that's needed to put an end to this ridiculous thread. End of story.

Fable and Fallout say hi.

[ceedot]

Oh wow.  You're a clever one, there, crux.

 

"all the posts where *you* said GTA IV will have kids?" Don't care.

 

"all the posts where *you* said the game wouldn't?" Don't care about that either.

 

All I care about is that common sense (a term which you seem to misunderstand) tells me, as it should anyone, that comparing shooting a cop to killing defenseless kids is an exercise in idiocy.  Try and use your head.  How many movies that involve the gratuitous murder of gun-toting cops have made millions?  There are too many to name.  How many portray kids getting gratuitously maimed/killed?  I cannot think of any. Killing kids is something that will simply never be accepted on the silver screen, and thusly never accepted in the video gaming universe.

 

That should be all that's needed to put an end to this ridiculous thread.  End of story.

Fable and Fallout say hi.

Realistic games where it's fre'e roam say hi back.

[Rick88]

Oh wow.  You're a clever one, there, crux.

 

"all the posts where *you* said GTA IV will have kids?" Don't care.

 

"all the posts where *you* said the game wouldn't?" Don't care about that either.

 

All I care about is that common sense (a term which you seem to misunderstand) tells me, as it should anyone, that comparing shooting a cop to killing defenseless kids is an exercise in idiocy.  Try and use your head.  How many movies that involve the gratuitous murder of gun-toting cops have made millions?  There are too many to name.  How many portray kids getting gratuitously maimed/killed?  I cannot think of any. Killing kids is something that will simply never be accepted on the silver screen, and thusly never accepted in the video gaming universe.

 

That should be all that's needed to put an end to this ridiculous thread.  End of story.

Fable and Fallout say hi.

Realistic games where it's fre'e roam say hi back.

Meh, my point was proven.

[DemonKing]

First of all, lay off the New Topic button.

 

 

Second off,

 

Don't add your venomous reply's to every topic please.

 

 

Yeah doubt this would happen though, i mean very unlikely.

[Rick88]

 

First of all, lay off the New Topic button.

 

 

Second off,

 

Don't add your venomous reply's to every topic please.

 

 

Yeah doubt this would happen though, i mean very unlikely.

lol Ceedot is cool, hell he's one of the smartest members I've seen around here >_>.

 

Also to explain myself from the last post, I was merely saying that there HAS been games where you could kill kids. I realize GTA is on a much more realistic genre, but still, my point stands.

 

To try and get back on topic: Schools/School Buses with no kids is pointless and unrealistic, unless you're using University students or something then that's a different story. I like the prison bus idea though, that would be cool.

[KidDala]

Well i guess i was wrong

 

cuz by now rockstar woulda showed some kinda indication of children...

 

i mean i guess we wont know like literally until april 29th...

 

but there'll be no kids...but rilly...who givez a fuk GTA IV is gonna kick ass regardless I mean police computers for godz SAKE!!!!

 

I tried to make a good topic tho....we cant all be right.