School Buses & Schools?

[visionist]

(Story about the end of GTA IV)

Absolutely Hilarious!

 

PS, if the prison on the island (forgot it's name) in NYC will feature in the game, then prison busses would be a great, logical idea.

[crux989]

^

Hot Coffee cases.

No need to put them in.

Too much controversy and bullsh*t for something that is worth nothing. No humour, not anything.

 

 

But how can you say that? It hasnt been confirmed either way.And noone knows if the peds in the 1st trailer with backpacks are college kids or highschoolers?I mean nonone knows how can you say its a fact they wont be in IV?

 

Say they put them in. What will that do for them? What good will that do for them?

 

None.

All it will do is cause controversy, a heap of lawsuits and heaps of complaints.

But maybe your right. Maybe Rockstar just want another 'hot coffee' bunch of ass pains again.

 

That's really not my supporting evidence.

I don't need 'official' evidence, because any smart person would know Rockstar aren't stupid enough to do that.

There you go again making assumptions and calling it evidence.

 

This is what I read from your post

 

"I dont need evidence, because I just know."

 

That is not evidence. That is talking out of your ass; something that youre apparently very good at doing.

 

 

You want to talk about how adding schools will give kids a good enough reason to shoot up their own schools. How about the mobs of officers you gun down in the game, or the innocent bystanders left behind after you barrage city hall with RPGs. Those things happen all the time all over the world. R* must of had something to do with it.

 

Games dont give kid's stupid ideas. Stupid kids do stupid things and find ways of excusing themselves. And thanks to Mom witnessing Little Johnny playing GTA she now has everything other than her son to blame for his incredibly stupid actions. What ever happened to alittle thing called Personal Responsibility? You think R* is going to account for all the dumb things people do? That theyre going to be used as some sort of scapegoat that takes it up the ass willingly?

 

OH NOES! COLUMBINE LOLZ

 

Yeah, because that was the first time a school has been shot up in the history of mankind. You're right. R* doesnt need that sh*t. In fact, they dont need to do anything. The murders on the street are due to people playing GTA. Same goes for car theft and robberies. All of the bad things that are happening all over the world only happened because of GTA.

 

 

R* needs to send a shining example for everyone, because that is what they have and continue to do though. You're completely correct, Ceedot.

[Simseth]

 

^

Hot Coffee cases.

No need to put them in.

Too much controversy and bullsh*t for something that is worth nothing. No humour, not anything.

 

 

But how can you say that? It hasnt been confirmed either way.And noone knows if the peds in the 1st trailer with backpacks are college kids or highschoolers?I mean nonone knows how can you say its a fact they wont be in IV?

 

Say they put them in. What will that do for them? What good will that do for them?

 

None.

All it will do is cause controversy, a heap of lawsuits and heaps of complaints.

But maybe your right. Maybe Rockstar just want another 'hot coffee' bunch of ass pains again.

 

That's really not my supporting evidence.

I don't need 'official' evidence, because any smart person would know Rockstar aren't stupid enough to do that.

There you go again making assumptions and calling it evidence.

 

This is what I read from your post

 

"I dont need evidence, because I just know."

 

That is not evidence. That is talking out of your ass; something that youre apparently very good at doing.

 

 

You want to talk about how adding schools will give kids a good enough reason to shoot up their own schools. How about the mobs of officers you gun down in the game, or the innocent bystanders left behind after you barrage city hall with RPGs. Those things happen all the time all over the world. R* must of had something to do with it.

 

Games dont give kid's stupid ideas. Stupid kids do stupid things and find ways of excusing themselves. And thanks to Mom witnessing Little Johnny playing GTA she now has everything other than her son to blame for his incredibly stupid actions. What ever happened to alittle thing called Personal Responsibility? You think R* is going to account for all the dumb things people do? That theyre going to be used as some sort of scapegoat that takes it up the ass willingly?

 

OH NOES! COLUMBINE LOLZ

 

Yeah, because that was the first time a school has been shot up in the history of mankind. You're right. R* doesnt need that sh*t. In fact, they dont need to do anything. The murders on the street are due to people playing GTA. Same goes for car theft and robberies. All of the bad things that are happening all over the world only happened because of GTA.

 

 

R* needs to send a shining example for everyone, because that is what they have and continue to do though. You're completely correct, Ceedot.

 

You're correct on all that except columbine being the first shooting. There were many school shootings before columbine. Many of them before GTA existed.

 

Here's sort of a time line, but there were some big ones in the 60s not listed. http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles..._shootings.html

Edited January 20, 2008 by Simseth

[crux989]

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Hot Coffee cases.

No need to put them in.

Too much controversy and bullsh*t for something that is worth nothing. No humour, not anything.

 

 

But how can you say that? It hasnt been confirmed either way.And noone knows if the peds in the 1st trailer with backpacks are college kids or highschoolers?I mean nonone knows how can you say its a fact they wont be in IV?

 

Say they put them in. What will that do for them? What good will that do for them?

 

None.

All it will do is cause controversy, a heap of lawsuits and heaps of complaints.

But maybe your right. Maybe Rockstar just want another 'hot coffee' bunch of ass pains again.

 

That's really not my supporting evidence.

I don't need 'official' evidence, because any smart person would know Rockstar aren't stupid enough to do that.

There you go again making assumptions and calling it evidence.

 

This is what I read from your post

 

"I dont need evidence, because I just know."

 

That is not evidence. That is talking out of your ass; something that youre apparently very good at doing.

 

 

You want to talk about how adding schools will give kids a good enough reason to shoot up their own schools. How about the mobs of officers you gun down in the game, or the innocent bystanders left behind after you barrage city hall with RPGs. Those things happen all the time all over the world. R* must of had something to do with it.

 

Games dont give kid's stupid ideas. Stupid kids do stupid things and find ways of excusing themselves. And thanks to Mom witnessing Little Johnny playing GTA she now has everything other than her son to blame for his incredibly stupid actions. What ever happened to alittle thing called Personal Responsibility? You think R* is going to account for all the dumb things people do? That theyre going to be used as some sort of scapegoat that takes it up the ass willingly?

 

OH NOES! COLUMBINE LOLZ

 

Yeah, because that was the first time a school has been shot up in the history of mankind. You're right. R* doesnt need that sh*t. In fact, they dont need to do anything. The murders on the street are due to people playing GTA. Same goes for car theft and robberies. All of the bad things that are happening all over the world only happened because of GTA.

 

 

R* needs to send a shining example for everyone, because that is what they have and continue to do though. You're completely correct, Ceedot.

You're correct on all that except columbine being the first shooting. There were many school shootings before columbine. Before video games existed.

That was sarcasm.

 

I think ceedot actually believes that though, and if I think it is it must be true (brought to you by ceedot logic).

[Azzerwazzer]

I'm ashamed to live in a world where kids can't be in videogames to kill, molest, etc... I also find people's response to 9/11 disgusting. How everything had to be censored because of some dumbsh*ts. I'd make a game where you play as a terrorist and reenact 9/11. Everyone sucks cock... Unenlightened, evangelical Christian motherf*ckers..

dude.

 

(try and put a bit of emphasys on the sarcasm if you don't mean that.)

 

i'm not sure weather to luagh or not.

 

even if ther are kids (and there aren't... get over it your making yourself look dodgy) what the hell are they going to be there for?

R* just don't need the crap either. if you wan't to kill kids then find a user made flash game... sick-o

i don't even understand why you even consider the possibility of children being featured in GTA.

 

and anyway i'll bet jack thompson is warming up his scaly thighs ready to search high and low for a reason to ban the future release of what we like to call "virtual fun" as we know it.

 

so anyway. just face it. no kids

 

[CryptReaperDorian]

In some GTA games like GTA III, probably VC, SA, and probably the other two 3D GTAs they had broken down undrivable school buses that were for decoration or side missions only. But in VC (only one I know of) the Bus they had looked somewhat like an old styled school bus that was driveable. Also, in SF in SA did they have a University?

[Gooners-jay-and-scott]

THERE WILL BE NO KIDS IN GTA IV THEY DON'T NEED TO CONFURM IT BECAUSE ANYONE WHO'S RIGHT MINDED WOULD WORK OUT THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO CONFURM IT, THERE ARE NO KIDS IN GTA IV AND THERE NEVER WILL BE!

and your writing in caps why?

 

Also nobody knows, im not really bothered about having kids in the game but if you think like that, then why does there need to be old people in the game?

[Azzerwazzer]

THERE WILL BE NO KIDS IN GTA IV THEY DON'T NEED TO CONFURM IT BECAUSE ANYONE WHO'S RIGHT MINDED WOULD WORK OUT THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO CONFURM IT, THERE ARE NO KIDS IN GTA IV AND THERE NEVER WILL BE!

and your writing in caps why?

 

Also nobody knows, im not really bothered about having kids in the game but if you think like that, then why does there need to be old people in the game?

because theyr'e gonna die soon anyway... and it's funny

[BobbyUK]

I have a bit of a hard time actually creating an opinion on this. I understand the obvious reasons why it would be a bad idea, in terms of the game being banned however the option to kill children is in bioshock, so its kind of a weird situation to really grasp.

 

in bioshock its a two way choice, kill or save, now GTA having children probably wouldnt be plot related but the same choice remains, you can kill them or save them and thats really the main deal, i think most people playing this wouldnt kill, its that hereditary built in code that most people born in mass media culture possess, we all know Tony Montana is a bad mother but even he doesnt kill kids, so its a sub-conscious no no.

 

I still dont think kids will be in the game, but that doesnt mean i agree, anyone that believes that video game violence creates real violence is niave and only adds to the problem. Every form of expressive art has been attributed to violence, comic books where burnt in the 50s because of this and i really dont agree, This game is created so that we all choose our way of playing, so in that view, is taking satisfaction from killing children, the games problem or maybe your own?

 

spree killing has happen long before, in 1987 michael ryan murdered 16 people in the infamous hungerford massarce, now was this too much pong or did Ryan maybe have some bigger issues?

 

This topic is actually a really intresting read due mostly to crux989 opinions, i'm glad there are other people who actually look at this objectivity without compounding this issue with hearsay and speculation

[CarpetDweller]

I told myself I wasn't going to get drawn into this topic as I've posted in the previous "Kids in GTA" threads before.

A lot of people that post actually make me more worried about the people that play the game. It seems many people automatically associate anything included in GTA with being able to kill or destroy it.

 

I was reading a recent Xbox World mag (Feb 08) about what makes GTA special and how the copycat games often misinterpret this. It's not about the size of the city or explosions. It's not about how many funky features can be included. It's about the feel and experience of living in this interactive, well designed location where care and attention has been put into the details. One of the things I always loved about GTA was that I believed they'd not only concentrated on things related to gameplay or directly involved in missions. They incorporated things that are purely there to add the experience and character of the world.

 

I haven't seen anything so far that makes me believes kids will be in IV, but I still can't understand the reasoning some forum members give for this. I really don't buy any of the arguments for not including kids or animals that get constantly spouted when these subjects arise.

 

If kids were in the game I doubt it would cause that much fuss in the long run. I'd draw the line at any mission forcing us to kill a child, but I have to admit I'm not that keen on the idea of forcing us to kill "innocents" in the game anyway. But just putting kids in as set -dressing to add some diversity to the population is fine by me.

 

All things included in the game should behave similar to its real-world counterpart, so I would be against making kids immune. If a child is shot it should react appropriately. Also, if I killed its mother, it should either run away screaming or crumple up hugging its deceased parents body begging Mommy to wake up. This isn't some sick fantasy on my part, I hope the reaction is truly horrifying enough to make me not want to do it again. Having the child be unkillable would take us out of the "reality".

 

I'm against censoring anything to the point where sensible normal people have to play a game extremely toned-down just so it can't be used as an excuse for some deranged anti-social psychopathic loony's actions.

 

I kind of understand the argument againt killing kids because they are innocent and and unable to defend themselves, but so are old people, people without weapons and pretty much anyone if I'm in a tank or hidden with a sniper-rifle.

 

For me kids would be there for the reality and feel of the city. I won't really mind if they're not there and I don't think they will be, but there really isn't much difference in killing a slightly smaller group of pixels.

 

Besides, some kids are just little sh*ts.

[BobbyUK]

this topic should be an absolute failure but it actually gives me hope, the post above pretty much covers what i believe everybody really wants from this gaming experience - a fully realised world, this game will be castigated regardless of this content and its obviously an ambitious hope but it would be nice if Rockstar were allowed to add whatever they wanted, this is a sandbox game after all, which allows us to do whatever we want, it would be intresting if Rockstar were allowed this too.

 

All the posts saying ROCKSTAR WONT DO THIS! well thats kind of obvious in the social climate and i think this topic has evolved from the OP, basically having children in this game would add a new dimension to not how you play the game but how you react to it. Making the choice not to kill is as big a part as going on a rampage,

 

this game should affect you in this way, next-gen gaming should not only focus on the graphics, it allows us to better interact with the world, making decisons that are very fundemental.

 

maybe games dont have to create real life violence from gaming violence, but perhaps they can create more empathy and growth

[ceedot]

^

Hot Coffee cases.

No need to put them in.

Too much controversy and bullsh*t for something that is worth nothing. No humour, not anything.

 

 

But how can you say that? It hasnt been confirmed either way.And noone knows if the peds in the 1st trailer with backpacks are college kids or highschoolers?I mean nonone knows how can you say its a fact they wont be in IV?

 

Say they put them in. What will that do for them? What good will that do for them?

 

None.

All it will do is cause controversy, a heap of lawsuits and heaps of complaints.

But maybe your right. Maybe Rockstar just want another 'hot coffee' bunch of ass pains again.

 

That's really not my supporting evidence.

I don't need 'official' evidence, because any smart person would know Rockstar aren't stupid enough to do that.

There you go again making assumptions and calling it evidence.

 

This is what I read from your post

 

"I dont need evidence, because I just know."

 

That is not evidence. That is talking out of your ass; something that youre apparently very good at doing.

 

 

You want to talk about how adding schools will give kids a good enough reason to shoot up their own schools. How about the mobs of officers you gun down in the game, or the innocent bystanders left behind after you barrage city hall with RPGs. Those things happen all the time all over the world. R* must of had something to do with it.

 

Games dont give kid's stupid ideas. Stupid kids do stupid things and find ways of excusing themselves. And thanks to Mom witnessing Little Johnny playing GTA she now has everything other than her son to blame for his incredibly stupid actions. What ever happened to alittle thing called Personal Responsibility? You think R* is going to account for all the dumb things people do? That theyre going to be used as some sort of scapegoat that takes it up the ass willingly?

 

OH NOES! COLUMBINE LOLZ

 

Yeah, because that was the first time a school has been shot up in the history of mankind. You're right. R* doesnt need that sh*t. In fact, they dont need to do anything. The murders on the street are due to people playing GTA. Same goes for car theft and robberies. All of the bad things that are happening all over the world only happened because of GTA.

 

 

R* needs to send a shining example for everyone, because that is what they have and continue to do though. You're completely correct, Ceedot.

You're correct on all that except columbine being the first shooting. There were many school shootings before columbine. Before video games existed.

That was sarcasm.

 

I think ceedot actually believes that though, and if I think it is it must be true (brought to you by ceedot logic).

Cry me a river.

 

Kids won't be in the game and that's final.

When a kid picks up the controller and plays, he may kill kids in the game. They see that as fun. They see it as right.

Younger people get influenced by stuff like that. It's the parents fault for letting them play.

 

Kids in GTA will just bring controversy to Rockstar, and for what? To add something that hasn't been in the other games? Are people going to restrain themself from buying GTA because there are no kids?

Didn't think so.

 

If kids are in the game, I'll tell the whole world I was wrong, and I'll embarrass myself.

[Carbine23]

Whoever thinks that kids have a possibility of being in GTA4 just because Rockstar never confirmed it not being in the game, is a complete f***ing moron.

[BobbyUK]

Do you not think the question is why are kids not in the game, thats the real issue, its really easy to say they wont be, its obvious, everyone knows this and its not really a very controversial opinion.

 

Kids that play the game will kill other kids - thats your main point i see, well is killing anything alright, what is defined as being "fair game"

 

an educated opinion would lead to no children in the game, but do you think this is right, do you agree?

 

because i've read all your posts here ceedot and you appear to want to be correct more than you want to express your own views

 

cheers

 

[Rick88]

Jack Thompson is all talk because he never wins his cases against video games. Hillary Clinton is all talk because the US government is never successful banning anything except child pornography. That pesky Constitution apparently says there can be no law against freedom of speech and press.

 

If something's not in GTA it's because the Housers don't think it's entertaining or they don't think it will avoid an AO rating. (They have to avoid AO because major stores won't carry AO titles.) Schools and kids are not going to get an AO rating. If violence against children was that taboo, the movie Kite Runner (with a child rape scene) wouldn't be PG-13. Other games have had killable kids. GTA doesn't because the people making GTA don't think it's cool. Enough with the powers-that-be conspiracy theories.

QFT.

 

To name one game where you could kill children: Fable

 

Even though it was a fantasy game, you could still literally beat the living sh*t out of a kid.

 

@ topic: GTA will probably not have kids any time soon. The reason for this is because it's not R*'s style, simple as that.

[smthrlr]

 

First of all, lay off the New Topic button.

 

Second, they won't be in. They never have, they never will. Too much controversy and parents complaining that their kids are being impacted when they shouldn't have bought the game for them in the first place.

But how can you say that? It hasnt been confirmed either way.And noone knows if the peds in the 1st trailer with backpacks are college kids or highschoolers?I mean nonone knows how can you say its a fact they wont be in IV?

Say they put them in. What will that do for them? What good will that do for them?

 

None.

All it will do is cause controversy, a heap of lawsuits and heaps of complaints.

But maybe your right. Maybe Rockstar just want another 'hot coffee' bunch of ass pains again. You must be right since you have no supporting evidence for them to be in the game.

 

Guess I'm wrong.

He didnt say you were wrong?

 

Its just that you cant speak up for R* as if you understand why they do the things they do when all you have to base your ideas on are on assumptions. Your guess is just as good as theirs and everyone elses.

 

The person asked perfectly legitimate questions, and as far as I can tell you didnt answer any of them; rather you asked questions of your own. You ask him why students need to be in the game. I'll ask you this: Why do old people need to be in the game, and what purpose do they serve?

 

And Hot Coffee. OOooOoo all of a sudden its the spokesman of controversies. Truth be told the GTA franchise has been linked with controversy since day one. We can easily say R* knows how to handle themselves quite well a decade into its existance. So do you really think alittle stur amongst the masses is going to stop them from doing what it is they do?

No "proof" that killable kids won't be in IV is needed. All that's needed is a little thing called common sense. Ever heard of it?

[Rabia]

But, but, I remember there were school busses in Driver 2.

 

But I hope that they dont put kids in the game. A controversy will start and I dont want to wait another 4-5 months.

[Carbine23]

(Story about the end of GTA IV)

Absolutely Hilarious!

 

PS, if the prison on the island (forgot it's name) in NYC will feature in the game, then prison busses would be a great, logical idea.

Yes. It's hilarious and realistically portrays what can happen when children are in GTA4.

[crux989]

 

^

Hot Coffee cases.

No need to put them in.

Too much controversy and bullsh*t for something that is worth nothing. No humour, not anything.

 

 

But how can you say that? It hasnt been confirmed either way.And noone knows if the peds in the 1st trailer with backpacks are college kids or highschoolers?I mean nonone knows how can you say its a fact they wont be in IV?

 

Say they put them in. What will that do for them? What good will that do for them?

 

None.

All it will do is cause controversy, a heap of lawsuits and heaps of complaints.

But maybe your right. Maybe Rockstar just want another 'hot coffee' bunch of ass pains again.

 

That's really not my supporting evidence.

I don't need 'official' evidence, because any smart person would know Rockstar aren't stupid enough to do that.

There you go again making assumptions and calling it evidence.

 

This is what I read from your post

 

"I dont need evidence, because I just know."

 

That is not evidence. That is talking out of your ass; something that youre apparently very good at doing.

 

 

You want to talk about how adding schools will give kids a good enough reason to shoot up their own schools. How about the mobs of officers you gun down in the game, or the innocent bystanders left behind after you barrage city hall with RPGs. Those things happen all the time all over the world. R* must of had something to do with it.

 

Games dont give kid's stupid ideas. Stupid kids do stupid things and find ways of excusing themselves. And thanks to Mom witnessing Little Johnny playing GTA she now has everything other than her son to blame for his incredibly stupid actions. What ever happened to alittle thing called Personal Responsibility? You think R* is going to account for all the dumb things people do? That theyre going to be used as some sort of scapegoat that takes it up the ass willingly?

 

OH NOES! COLUMBINE LOLZ

 

Yeah, because that was the first time a school has been shot up in the history of mankind. You're right. R* doesnt need that sh*t. In fact, they dont need to do anything. The murders on the street are due to people playing GTA. Same goes for car theft and robberies. All of the bad things that are happening all over the world only happened because of GTA.

 

 

R* needs to send a shining example for everyone, because that is what they have and continue to do though. You're completely correct, Ceedot.

You're correct on all that except columbine being the first shooting. There were many school shootings before columbine. Before video games existed.

That was sarcasm.

 

I think ceedot actually believes that though, and if I think it is it must be true (brought to you by ceedot logic).

Cry me a river.

 

Kids won't be in the game and that's final.

When a kid picks up the controller and plays, he may kill kids in the game. They see that as fun. They see it as right.

Younger people get influenced by stuff like that. It's the parents fault for letting them play.

 

Kids in GTA will just bring controversy to Rockstar, and for what? To add something that hasn't been in the other games? Are people going to restrain themself from buying GTA because there are no kids?

Didn't think so.

 

If kids are in the game, I'll tell the whole world I was wrong, and I'll embarrass myself.

Cry you a river? What? So much to say with such little relevance.

 

Students dont equal kids so stop talking about them as if they were synonyms. The op didnt even mention kids to begin with. He simply asked if theyd have schools and buses. Why? Because cities have schools and buses just like how they have churches. But no, wait, its fine to have churches in the game since thatd obviously equate to having members of the clergy as peds. Killing priests is just fine, as long as the priest isnt a kid.

 

FatLouie is right. The lot of you are f*cking hypocrites. You either condone murdering the innocent or you dont. Dangling on either side of the fence doesnt make you any more of a saint than you pretend to be.

 

"Its the parent's fault! Thats why R* has to atone for other people's, especially the poor influential kids', judgment".

 

That makes no sense at all. If its not your fault so why are you being punished and why should you say sorry. Why do you need to explain to someone else that you'll never do it again when it had NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

 

 

Are people going to restrain themself from buying GTA because there are no kids?

 

Yeah? Because maybe some people (god forbid) have moral standards?

 

 

So much focus on kids when this topic was originally discussing the possibilities of schools and buses. You can have both and not include kids. Its really as simple as that. Just like how you can have a church and not include the clergy, and if they do you'll no where R*'s stand is: Anything goes.

 

 

 

No "proof" that killable kids won't be in IV is needed. All that's needed is a little thing called common sense. Ever heard of it?

 

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! ZING!!!!

 

 

If youre going to speak for R* and claim something for a fact you need proof and nothing short of it. Otherwise its nothing but an ASSUMPTION. I must of missed the meeting when assumptions (disguised as "common sense lol") became fact. Why didnt I get a memo?

 

Look at all the posts and find where I said R* will have kids; killable ones at that. Did I say that? No? So why do *I* need proof?

 

Now, try to find a post where I said they WONT have kids. No luck? Too bad.

 

 

Im curious. What does common sense tell you? You seem to know much about this bizarre idea. How does common sense dictate the decision made when it comes to putting kids, students of all ages, school buses, and schools into IV; and how does this negate the means for any sort of proof when one speaks on the behalf of a company? You must talk about all of this as this is what the whole topic has come down to.

 

Personally common sense would tell me its wrong to shoot a cop, but there it is making up the backbone of an entire series of games which spawned a whole new genre which revolves around mass murder and mayhem. But thats just me.

Edited January 21, 2008 by crux989

[Body Politic]

 

Unnecessary unless you have a very sick mind.

Yeah, I know, god forbid I use manipulated coding so if I move a bunch of polygons onto a scripted robot resembling a child it will make it fall down and leave a computer image texture that vaguely looks like blood! But it's okay if the scripted robot resembles my grandmother.

 

But, you know, it's true what they say. I played GTA III alot when I was in the single-digits age and look at me now, I'm a serial killer who won't stop until all of us are dead.

 

Aren't we all hypocrites, though? When someone like Thompson comes and makes outrageous claims about violent games influencing you, everyone's on the "OH WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KILL KIDS IT WONT DO ANYTHING TO ANYONE" bandwagon.

Edited January 21, 2008 by Body Politic

[BobbyUK]

this should probably just get locked now, unless there is more "facts" i am yet unaware of

 

and yeah crux, common sense and mass genocide does create a slight paradox, glad someone else sees it

[crux989]

Aren't we all hypocrites, though? When someone like Thompson comes and makes outrageous claims about violent games influencing you, everyone's on the "OH WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KILL KIDS IT WONT DO ANYTHING TO ANYONE" bandwagon.

Actually the bandwagon is "You're a sick f*ck for wanting to kill kids".

 

And it would be hypocritical if the people that said "its not right to kill kids in video games" actually did. In real life. Because of teh influence lol.

 

I dont see how it is otherwise though. ~shrug?~

[Reincarnated Kenji]

Rockstar won't add kids and bombing schools etc into the game, it'll be too risky and I just don't see it happening but rest assured IF this idea is actually in the game then I will spare no one.

[NoSkillz187]

There wont be kids or furry animals. End of Story. I remember the whole K-9 rumor someone made up about SA. And when asked, R* said they are against putting furry animals in their games. Samething applies to kids. It wont happen. And in the first trailer it was a glitch, and half the womans body was sticking through the ground.

 

Other game companies can get away with sh*t like that because, they are not R*. Plain and Simple. R* is always in the spotlight and you know it. So just drop it, and be happy when we get some new previews Wednesday.

[GamerShotgun]

Hey KidDala, wanna go make another pointless, brain-dead thread? Because if you do I'll take great pleasure in burning your house down.

This comment has everything what i've wanted to post...

 

Kids in GTA IV? Naaah... And if i remember right, i've even read somewhere that it's officially confirmed that there'll be no kids in this game, and no "fluffy cats and dogs". It was in an Interview with one of the Housers

[kaydee69]

I have a counter proposal. Yeah, school buses would be fun to drive. Not because they have anything to do with schools, but just because of the way they look etc. So how about having some prison buses? They are virtually the same, save the color. And I don't think nearly as many people would object to prison buses as would to school buses. You could even fill them with inmates that are being transported that break lose if you abandon the bus.

And how many prison buses would you expect to see driving aimlessly around a major city? It wouldn't look right.

They wouldn't. They'd be rare.

i see those beefed up black and white inmate transport busses by my college all the time. Orange suit-wearing inmates picking up garbage, and officers with shotties.

 

point being, they are around and I'd like to drive one

[matt_hrkac]

THERE WILL BE NO KIDS IN GTA IV THEY DON'T NEED TO CONFURM IT BECAUSE ANYONE WHO'S RIGHT MINDED WOULD WORK OUT THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO CONFURM IT, THERE ARE NO KIDS IN GTA IV AND THERE NEVER WILL BE!

We aren't talking about kids here we're talking about Schools and School Buses ... noticed the difference or needing some help ?

 

Lay off the CAPS button dude ...

school buses would be cool in my sence but i was reading through this forum and saw posts about there being kids in this game and again school busses would be pretty cool and about thje prison bus, it would be good to when you like go to a police station you see a prison bus driveing through the area loaded with prisoners.

[Nikolai Bellic]

Never mind the kids, bring back the Hare Krishna's!

[DJLance2006]

Ceedot mentioned that parents would complain about there kids being impacted...

 

Further on from that... i saw in yesterdays paper and article about our generation being the most "un-parented" generation of all time in australia...

 

so in regards to that... i think that the parents wouldnt have the right to "parent" us about such violence...

 

 

As funny as it would be to high-jack a bus full of kids and drive it towards the water and jump out at the last minute.... i dont think they would put it in... simply "Just Cause"

[ceedot]

crux is getting mega cut x 50.

Kids, students whatever won't be in GTA. Students/Teenagers are more likely to pick up a gun and shoot people.