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Gabriel Constantin

Punk

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Tetsuo2501

lol ou said sex pistols, that's cute.

 

 

anyway, come to find out that my local club is being shut down for the fourthm and final time on June 16th, so that means no casualties, but i'll still be able to see ANS biggrin.gif

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Scarface187
lol ou said sex pistols, that's cute.

 

 

It was the mention of Dropkick Murphys that really disturbed me.

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Pr0xy_fl00d3r
lol ou said sex pistols, that's cute.

 

 

It was the mention of Dropkick Murphys that really disturbed me.

I like all punk music...not just the ones you dislike LOL

Can't beat the casualties icon14.gif

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ass reamer
Jun 29 2008 8:00A

Ringworm

 

 

Jul 6 2008 7:00P

The Casualties, Time Again, Warcola,The Scandals, Excess Enemy

 

 

 

Oh Dallas Texas, how the scene still lives within you.

Is that the scandals from New Jersey? Or is there a Texas band by the same name? Because if it's the band from Jersey you're in for a treat.

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Tetsuo2501
Jun 29 2008 8:00A

Ringworm

 

 

Jul 6 2008 7:00P

The Casualties, Time Again, Warcola,The Scandals, Excess Enemy

 

 

 

Oh Dallas Texas, how the scene still lives within you.

Is that the scandals from New Jersey? Or is there a Texas band by the same name? Because if it's the band from Jersey you're in for a treat.

Yeah they're from Texas here, they're pretty much the sh*t stained version of The Casualties to be honest.

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GTA Beta

Sex Pistols

Socal Distortion

Bad Brains

Black Flag

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Straznicy

Anything and everything in small amounts, from Flogging Molly to The Rezillos, Bad Brains to The Stranglers, and Offspring to Amebix.

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Tetsuo2501

I went and saw Damage Case, Spazam 151, Human Struggle, and Krum Bums last night, I'm horse for jumping on the stage multiple times and singing with the 'bums, and I recieved a concussion from stage driving,no one caught me, and I landed on the back of my head, when I got up I was bleeding everywhere.

 

 

Wondeful show, sucks that this was the last show for this club, it's being shut down.

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I went and saw Damage Case, Spazam 151, Human Struggle, and Krum Bums last night, I'm horse for jumping on the stage multiple times and singing with the 'bums, and I recieved a concussion from stage driving,no one caught me, and I landed on the back of my head, when I got up I was bleeding everywhere.

 

 

Wondeful show, sucks that this was the last show for this club, it's being shut down.

The Krum Bums always incite some wild stage diving. When I saw them here in Richmond, the lead singer climbed on top of the roof (it's a patio venue) and jumped into the crowd. Good times.

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Jesus'En'Hitler420

amazon Anybody check out the new Clash DVD?

 

 

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ass reamer
amazon Anybody check out the new Clash DVD?

f*ck the Clash.

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Slamman

The Clash are so damn respectible. PBS used them on a pledge drive. That ain't PUNK!!! wow.gifcry.gifnervous.gifnotify.gif

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Jesus'En'Hitler420

 

amazon Anybody check out the new Clash DVD?

f*ck the Clash.

You're retarded bro, do you know a damn thing about Joe Strummer? I guess taking the words of Anal c*nt to heart bring about stupidity.

Edited by Jesus'En'Hitler420

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ass reamer
amazon Anybody check out the new Clash DVD?

f*ck the Clash.

You're retarded bro, do you know a damn thing about Joe Strummer? I guess taking the words of Anal c*nt to heart bring about stupidity.

I'm retarded for not liking a band? The Clash weren't even punk, and I hate how whenever someone starts talking about the "greatest punk band ever" the Clash always gets thrown in there. Joe Strummer was decent, I like some of his post Clash work, but I f*cking hate the Clash.

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Jesus'En'Hitler420

Clash were punk dude, there's a reason they are cited. They grew out of playing 3 chords, doesn't mean they weren't "punk". Even songs that were made post 1977 still had the same ideas at heart, they just sounded a lot different.

 

Fine, you hate the group, but you can not say they weren't punk. It's all Joe ever thought of the group, the only thing Joe even aspired to up until his death. He talked about the spirit even in the Mescaleros, which only had like 4 straight rock songs to their set.

 

I think you should listen to an early live recording of them, and then say that they are not punk. "Cardiff 1977", I'll even send it to you. As a matter of fact, any live recording pre 1982 shows what an unbeliveably fast and tight band they were. Just raw as f*ck.

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ass reamer

They were absolute hypocrites and there was nothing special about their music imo. Probably 50% of the music they recorded couldn't even be called rock, much less punk.

 

Also, being signed to Epic records and talking about revolution makes a lot of sense.

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Tetsuo2501

Social D, and The Clash are both the same to me. Everyone says they 'progressed' and they changed the scene, f*ck that, they saw $$$ and they changed their sound, anyone who has respect for the scene or music would agree.

 

 

f*ck Social D and The Clash., id piss on them.

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Gabriel Constantin

The Clash had a few reasonably good protest songs to their name, but when they came from the mouth's of a band who were signed to a major label, it just wasn't the same. Sure you can be on a major label, and still be punk, just don't try and preach while you're doing it. Other bands have been fine playing punk and still been on a major label; because they didn't try and be political or preach about anything. The Clash however, did.

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ass reamer
Sure you can be on a major label, and still be punk,

No, you can't.

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Gabriel Constantin
Sure you can be on a major label, and still be punk,

No, you can't.

Yes, you can. Contray to popular belief; punk was not created as a way to "fxck da systam". Punk was created in an effort to bring rock music back to the people that listened to rock music. Instead of playing large stadium crowds with a line of bouncers between them and the audience, they played small, sweaty gigs where the person in front of you was close enough to smell the last time you had sex.

 

The only reason people think it has something to do with rebelling against society is because The Sex Pistols (who, as a punk band, were laughable) started acting like it. If being on a major label means you can bring your music to more people then that's fine. Though if you're going to complain about the system, then don't go on one. Simple as.

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Statutory Ray
Sure you can be on a major label, and still be punk,

No, you can't.

Says the guy who said it's all about the music.

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Psych

I love The Clash, f*cking amazing.

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Jay
f*ck Social D and The Clash., id piss on them.

Haha that reminds me of Donny Tourette.

 

"I dick on the Sex Pistols"

 

Speaking of sh*tty punk lead men... sigh.gif

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Straznicy

My punk music is more punk than your punk music.

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Graven

Some punk, crust, hc & crust-influenced bands I´ve listened over the years.

 

Dead Kennedys

The Exploited

GBH

Terveet Kädet

Extreme Noise Terror

Cryptic Slaughter

The Accüsed

Corrosion Of Conformity

Impaled Nazarene (Latex Cult)

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ass reamer
Instead of playing large stadium crowds with a line of bouncers between them and the audience, they played small, sweaty gigs where the person in front of you was close enough to smell the last time you had sex.

Which is part of the reason bands on major labels aren't punk. I don't think bands like the Clash played many hole-in-the-wall venues after they got signed. Being on a major label goes against pretty much everything punk stands for. Punk isn't supposed to appeal to the masses.

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Canoxa
Instead of playing large stadium crowds with a line of bouncers between them and the audience, they played small, sweaty gigs where the person in front of you was close enough to smell the last time you had sex.

Which is part of the reason bands on major labels aren't punk. I don't think bands like the Clash played many hole-in-the-wall venues after they got signed. Being on a major label goes against pretty much everything punk stands for. Punk isn't supposed to appeal to the masses.

Yes it is. Would you f*cking move your arse and do something worthwhile if the songs that asked for you to do so didn't appeal to you?

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ass reamer
Instead of playing large stadium crowds with a line of bouncers between them and the audience, they played small, sweaty gigs where the person in front of you was close enough to smell the last time you had sex.

Which is part of the reason bands on major labels aren't punk. I don't think bands like the Clash played many hole-in-the-wall venues after they got signed. Being on a major label goes against pretty much everything punk stands for. Punk isn't supposed to appeal to the masses.

Yes it is. Would you f*cking move your arse and do something worthwhile if the songs that asked for you to do so didn't appeal to you?

I am not the masses. Did you even read what I wrote you f*cking tool? I said it's not supposed to appeal to the masses. And it doesn't.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "move your ass and do something worthwhile" either.

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Jesus'En'Hitler420

Lol, you guys really don't know much about the Clash.

 

They infact, made no money, they were in debt to studios up to their eyeballs. Their triple album Sandinista (Which I will agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY has not much of any punk rock music in it) left them in tons of debt because they wanted the album to be sold at single album price. They cut a $40 album back to $10 by cutting their own royalties and even shaving off production costs so all of it has still yet to be paid back, and this was 25 years ago. Same deal with London Calling, just not as bad because LC was only a double album, but was still sold at single album price.

 

So lets go a little further, Rage's Zach Delaroca said that the reason Rage signed to their major label because they know that's the way to get their message out to LOTS of people. Are they still not allowed to speak? Are they hipocrits?

 

Clash weren't hipocrits. They admitted they wanted to make some money, but they also weren't willing to compromise with the big labels, even when the big labels said they would be in debt millions for their decisions concerning the pricing of their material. Also, the Clash were in debt because their first BIG LABEL tour wasn't insured by the Big label, so all the f*cking brit punkers would go around to the somewhat better stages and f*cking tear the sh*t out of the places, which the Clash ended up having to pay for. So there's another couple of thousand right there.

 

Even later in their careers as a band, they still played hole in the wall gigs. In 1981 after LC and Sandinista were released, they were supposed to play a whole week at a nightclub in NYC called Bonds Casino. The owner, oversold the show by thousands of tickets, which was found out by Fire Marshalls, so they closed down the first nights show. The Clash, knowing that some fans came from hundreds of miles away, decided they'd play an extra night for every couple of thousand oversold tickets. They ended up playing 17 straight nights at the club, rather than the original week.

 

 

 

Zoom to 2:50 for a news report. Video begins with an interview with Joe.

 

Yeah, I know, I'm writing a whole lot. I love these guys, I admit. I'm sick of hearing how unpunk or how untrue and hipocritical they were. True, they didn't make any punk recordings after their first album, however, they played everything like punks should do live. Every song, even their reggae, was fast, raw, and powerful.

 

Oh yeah, and they made no money. They consistently slashed prices of their albums, and shows. The song "Lost in the Supermarket" on the album London Calling is a song about how they'd go into the big chain supermarkets, see their faces all over the place on albums and posters, but still, nobody knew of them, and they weren't getting any money for it either.

 

I love the last line of the chorus too. A guaranteed personality, a line meaning that if you sign to a big label, you're supposed to be a rockstar then, which they found out was sadly untrue.

 

Tetsuo, the scene is just a bunch of arrogant f*cks, who think this way and that is the right way, just like anybody else thinks of whatever the f*ck they do. I figured it wouldn't be a bad idea to include these points because they aren't usually discussed among the misinformed who only see two things, big label, and top 40 hits. I say good for them, the most popular of the culture who might happen to be curious can dive into their music and see what else they bring to the table. Too bad not many groups get this chance to have such influence.

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Tetsuo2501

 

So lets go a little further, Rage's Zach Delaroca said that the reason Rage signed to their major label because they know that's the way to get their message out to LOTS of people. Are they still not allowed to speak? Are they hipocrits?

Yes, they were. They spoke out against the system that paid them thousands of dollars to make their music, so in return the three piece suit pigs got richer, while rich suburban white kids in gated communitys felt like they were 'getting the message'. That's like saying I'm vegan but it's cool that I work in a butcher shop, cause they pay me to do it. Good game on that one. Idiot.

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