Pat Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Isn't the WW3 thing a bit cliche? I mean, it's almost as cliche as doing a bank robbery, and isn't cliche what we want to get away from, to do something unique? Well, that's why I said "perhaps." Vercetti21 suggested it, I was just trying to find a way to get our ideas to combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanwhip Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 Yeah. The whole "Oh em gee! World War Three!" thing is cliche. Plus, I just don't like your idea Emopat. I mean, so everyone is captured and must escape and stop world war 3? Everyone's from the same division, oh but don't worry! We gots some hitmens to diversify! I think the first plot is the best with diversity of characters and choice as to what happens. It's much more open ended then just escape and stop world war 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti21 Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 ^ Alright, so what was the first plot? There's so many ideas in this thread now that I've gotten lost. And who else is joining the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I mean, so everyone is captured and must escape and stop world war 3? Once again, Vercetti21 is the one who suggested WW3. Second of all, not everyone gets captured. One or two people do, and the rest have to save them. But with the hitmen, you have people who don't care about the team mates, they just want to get back. Which can, of course, cause some controversy. Everything in here is crime. How about we try something different, at least once? Being the good guys, instead of the bad guys? Well, except for the people who want to be on the drug cartel's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanwhip Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) Plot: A new government has toppled the old government wants its power back and now the whole country is thrown into a whirlwind of internal struggles. As the new government tries to impose strict regulations on crimes and such, the old government wants control back so it send men to try to take them out. At the same time, revolutionaries go to try to take them down to take over the country and rule it for the people. The revolutionies hate all types of governement and will probably fight off old and new government. Over seeing what is going on, The US sends special forces to try to keep the situation controlled from full out civil war. The US then realizes other countries are trying to capitalize on this situation and are sending mercenaries to ensure the eruption of civil war. Meanwhile, a few hitmen roam around the country and nobody knows why. Edited January 20, 2008 by Cubanwhip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land Of Confusion Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 ^ Alright, so what was the first plot? There's so many ideas in this thread now that I've gotten lost. And who else is joining the list? If I'm not already on it, I am, this is an awesome idea . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Meanwhile, a few hitmen roam around the country and nobody knows why. I can agree with all of that plot, except this. A few hitmen roam the country, and nobody knows why? Sounds like you're just throwing that in there because you want to be a hitman. Take away that part, and to me it sounds good. But if you want to have hitmen in, think of a better reason than just "nobody knows why." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Constantin Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 The hitmen are there for personal gain. Obviously a price tag has been put on the new leader's head and they're there to capitalize on that bounty. They don't care about the state of the country, they just care about taking the leader's head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanwhip Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 Hitmen serve no purpose to the main conflict, unless we want them intereing with the other groups. Such as the special OPs want the leaders alive, but the hitmen want them dead, so now the special ops try to find and eliminate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Hitmen serve no purpose to the main conflict Then why have them in? That goes off track from the original theme, which could lead to a cluttered story. One minute you have the main theme, then the next you have something completely different about hitmen trying to kill a person. Maybe I'm the only person here who doesn't think every story has to involve a hitman, or a crime, or drugs, or sh*t like that. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land Of Confusion Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Hitmen serve no purpose to the main conflict Then why have them in? That goes off track from the original theme, which could lead to a cluttered story. One minute you have the main theme, then the next you have something completely different about hitmen trying to kill a person. Maybe I'm the only person here who doesn't think every story has to involve a hitman, or a crime, or drugs, or sh*t like that. Who knows. I've got to agree with Emopat, don't add in things that are completely irrelevant to the plot, it's like putting two paragraphs of pure description in, it's the mark of a poor writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanwhip Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 When I meant 'the main conflict', I meant the struggle to keep Columbia from exploding into a war zone. They are there to get their job done and get the f*ck out. Of course, in a war zone, you can't just do that, so they have to deal with everything in between. Which would mean they are involved, but neutral. They don't really care about the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangster.yoghurt Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 given i was one off the peeps who helped spawn the idea (the first suggesting Colombian goverment overthrown. No need for thanks lol ) i think that you guys have all got something. You could start the story with something like Goverment Official My name is Chico Garcia and i was the most powerful man in all off Colombia. I can't remeber much off the night before apart from blood... lots and lots off blood. They were Cartel members and they came at noon. Armed to the teeth with Semi Automatics and Aks, they took over the parliament without resistance and they butchered anyone who got in there way, including my family. I can't remeber much apart from waking up in this stale alleyway. the stench off death ironed into my clothes. Very simple short sentences to start off with then you could do something like (For all the peeps who wanted 3rd person) Cartel Leader Cisco Cortez was enjoying life since his battle for power. He had it all now. Girls,Drugs, Money, Power the whole 9 yards Like do the two opposing sides points off view chapter by chapter if ya get me Goverment Official>>>Cartel Leader etc etc so you get both points off view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Of course, in a war zone, you can't just do that So because they can't do something that has to do with the main conflict, you're just going to throw them in on the side? You might as well be putting a small kid in a story about a casino. "While the parents gamble, the kid wanders off and looks around at all the slot machines and odd people who smell of liquor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanwhip Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 Learn to analogize. They are going in to kill the leaders. Getting paid to do just that. Not resolve any conflicts in Columbia. Go in and out. But everyone's fighting and everyone wants the leaders dead. But the hitmen want to get paid, and they don't get paid if other hitmen or groups kill them. So the hitmen have to fight through the warzone to get to the leaders. They don't have sides so they kill whoever they have to to get to the leaders. They're neutral. How is that so hard to comprehend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Pretty hard, since you keep saying things like, "Hitmen serve no purpose to the main conflict." Honestly, why do we need hitmen thrown in to take out the main leaders? Why can't we take a different approach? You know, the small people. The people that are really affected by this war. Not the big-wigs who say "do this and do that," the people who are affected by what the big-wigs say. But whatever. If you want crime thrown into this story just like every other single story on this forum, be my guest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanwhip Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 What the hell. We all agreed it was going to be f*cking crime. Also, revolutionaries = small people who matter. They don't want to be pushed around and want to get rid of the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangster.yoghurt Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Hit men arn't just criminals if anything hitmen are used more in political situations than in criminal ones. Look what happened to Benazir Bunto and that woman in Burma political hitmen not criminal ones. Also a Hitman isn't a bigwig. The job should off been easy. An Unknown organisation (possibly american Goverment CIA) hires a hitman to take out a Colombian Druglord. The Hitman is meant to go in and out. Find the target and neatrulize it however War errupts. Little do the Spec Ops force knows but they weren't actually sent in to keep the peace but to make sure the Hitman can achieve his goal off killing the Drug Lord. The Spec Ops team go in and clear the wya for the Hitman but War errupts and everyone gets seperated there end off argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 We all agreed it was going to be f*cking crime. We never made a definite decision, but if everyone wants crime, I don't think I'll be staying on the project. I don't know about you, but I thought this was going to be an original story. Something new to WD that would be different from all the crime and fanfics and such. But apparently I was wrong. Apparently I'm the only one here who thinks you can write a story that doesn't revolve around crime. And I know, that makes me a bit of a hypocrite since I suggested plots that have to do with crime, but at least I tried to take a different twist on them, I didn't just suggest "lol i r be hitman nao." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land Of Confusion Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 We all agreed it was going to be f*cking crime. We never made a definite decision, but if everyone wants crime, I don't think I'll be staying on the project. I don't know about you, but I thought this was going to be an original story. Something new to WD that would be different from all the crime and fanfics and such. But apparently I was wrong. Apparently I'm the only one here who thinks you can write a story that doesn't revolve around crime. And I know, that makes me a bit of a hypocrite since I suggested plots that have to do with crime, but at least I tried to take a different twist on them, I didn't just suggest "lol i r be hitman nao." Again, I've got to agree with Emopat, are we going to do something unique, or just repeat about every single story on this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanwhip Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 Orly?! We all agreed for criminal over post-apocalyptic. Different take? Orly? "Lets let some people get captured! Oh noez we got to savez them! Hey and while we're at it, let's stop world war 3!" Plus, the hitmen add diversity. Everyone is trying to accomplish something. Old government is trying to take down new one. Revolutionists want to take down both governments. Special OPs try to attempt to keep peace. Mercenaries incite and make everything worse. The hitmen are neutral in the conflict and just want money, nothing else. So we have different choices as to what we want. Sure, I'd love to be a hitman, cause that's the kind of guy I always play, but I wouldn't mind being a mercenary cause that would be hella fun. PS: How mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangster.yoghurt Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 i wouldn't say this is a crime story. Yes it has Criminals in it but casablanca had f*cking criminals in it. This is more a Nationalist Freedom Political Unrest kind off story PS is anyone actually reading what i have to say. It just seems to be Cubanwhip and Emopat arguing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) How mature. You talking about people being mature? Oh boy, there's something to laugh about. All I've seen you do is bitch about how much third person sucks, or suggest plots. I haven't seen you actually agree with a single one. You just stomp your foot down and say, "no, I don't like that, so let's do this." Call me back when this is more original than hitman killing a political big-wig, which is a story I've read time and time again. Until then, I'm out. And yes, we agreed on crime over post-apocalyptic, but that doesn't mean we said "okay, crime, nothing else, definite decision." I'm finished with this argument, and however immature it may be of me, this project. Edited January 20, 2008 by EmoPat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vercetti21 Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Plot: A new government has toppled the old government wants its power back and now the whole country is thrown into a whirlwind of internal struggles. As the new government tries to impose strict regulations on crimes and such, the old government wants control back so it send men to try to take them out. At the same time, revolutionaries go to try to take them down to take over the country and rule it for the people. The revolutionies hate all types of governement and will probably fight off old and new government. Over seeing what is going on, The US sends special forces to try to keep the situation controlled from full out civil war. The US then realizes other countries are trying to capitalize on this situation and are sending mercenaries to ensure the eruption of civil war. Meanwhile, a few hitmen roam around the country and nobody knows why. Awesome. I vote this idea, but what country is it? And again, everyone shut the f*ck up and stop arguing. It's going nowhere, and it's only going to hurt the collaborative effort and get the damn topic locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanwhip Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) Nah I hear you Yoghurt, and yeah, there is the criminal aspect in it, but every story has criminal, but Emopat doesn't want any criminal, which is impossible. Also, Columbia is teh country. Edited January 20, 2008 by Cubanwhip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Constantin Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Ugh. I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land Of Confusion Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Well this has certainly been productive hasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta phil gta Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 You guys need to learn how to get along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanwhip Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 Well, at least we got a plot. Next is who wants to be what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta phil gta Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I want's to be el capitano. As you were... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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