FrozenFire Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 In these two screenshots, Niko has the same expression. Or at least, incredibly similar. This brings me to a question... Whenever we've got our gun aimed, will an expression automatically pop up or something? Or maybe only after we've fired. http://media.gtanet.com/images/3877_gta_iv.jpg http://media.gtanet.com/images/3488_gta_iv_niko_armed.jpg Also, Niko has perfect teeth. Lol. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackdawg Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 They probably use the same facial expressions for all rage. It could also be a conspiracy, and they are rendering bits to make us think the game has made progress... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourNeighborhoodKiller Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Does it really matter? It's an expression, deal with it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenFire Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 Does it really matter? It's an expression, deal with it. Do you think I was complaining or something? I was simply acknowledging that I thought they looked similar. I found it interesting, actually. I was asking what people think will trigger the expressions. Please don't be so hostile when nobody has argued yet. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 It's actually a fair question about the game. As with advances in next generation gaming and the engines/physics that apply, Things will be different... Oh, sorry to use that again, but, hey, why not!? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourNeighborhoodKiller Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Who cares if he makes a face or not, it's an expression, many games have had this feature before. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackdawg Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 It's actually a fair question about the game. As with advances in next generation gaming and the engines/physics that apply, Things will be different... Oh, sorry to use that again, but, hey, why not!? Shenmue had the best textures and expressions I've ever seen. Wonder if that's why SEGA went bankrupt right after the release..? I think there's something to be said about a game that's still more advanced than titles being released 7 years later. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Who cares if he makes a face or not, it's an expression, many games have had this feature before. If you don't care about the subject of the topic at hand, then you can always leave, rather than posting things like "who cares". Because you know, believe it or not, everyone has their own opinion. Just because you don't care about it, doesn't mean no one else does. Anyway, I think they look similar, but not exactly the same. Maybe it's just the camera angle, but they look a little different to me. Also, not sure if anyone's noticed this, but in the first screenshot, there's a sign that says: "Steinway ^ Bohan South" Just thought I'd point that out. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackdawg Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Who cares if he makes a face or not, it's an expression, many games have had this feature before. If you don't care about the subject of the topic at hand, then you can always leave, rather than posting things like "who cares". Because you know, believe it or not, everyone has their own opinion. Just because you don't care about it, doesn't mean no one else does. Anyway, I think they look similar, but not exactly the same. Maybe it's just the camera angle, but they look a little different to me. Also, not sure if anyone's noticed this, but in the first screenshot, there's a sign that says: "Steinway ^ Bohan South" Just thought I'd point that out. I've seen "who cares?" in most responses pertaining to subjects on realism in GTA IV. Hope R* cares so the game isn't boring like the people who keep saying that. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
computergeek Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 haha, nice eye there. i suppose characters do now have expressions... unfortunately, they never change the way the hold their guns either. Why on earth is niko's middle finger so short?! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak2121 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 haha, nice eye there. i suppose characters do now have expressions... unfortunately, they never change the way the hold their guns either. Why on earth is niko's middle finger so short?! yeah but Niko's middle finger isn't short it's just bending. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 (edited) Niko has a similar expression in this screenshot, too. Not to mention most others where he is wielding a weapon, with the exception of this one, where he is seemingly yelling/screaming/etc. In trailer three, however, the only time we see Niko's face completely while shooting, he remains emotionless. ... Edited January 1, 2008 by Spartacus Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacn138 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Who cares if he makes a face or not, it's an expression, many games have had this feature before. If you don't care about the subject of the topic at hand, then you can always leave, rather than posting things like "who cares". Because you know, believe it or not, everyone has their own opinion. Just because you don't care about it, doesn't mean no one else does. My Sig Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runey Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Who cares if he makes a face or not, it's an expression, many games have had this feature before. If you don't care about the subject of the topic at hand, then you can always leave, rather than posting things like "who cares". Because you know, believe it or not, everyone has their own opinion. Just because you don't care about it, doesn't mean no one else does. My Sig Wow, that really contributes to the topic. Anyways, Facial expression is important if you ask me, I mean...would it make sense if he kept the same expression the whole game? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddy Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 He was dealt with! I think facial expressions never used to matter, but yeah, with next gen it shouldnt be hard to do, so no excuse! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057370981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
computergeek Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 haha, nice eye there. i suppose characters do now have expressions... unfortunately, they never change the way the hold their guns either. Why on earth is niko's middle finger so short?! yeah but Niko's middle finger isn't short it's just bending. nah, I know its bending...but... why don't you try this little experiment. >make a fist >clench the bottom of that fist with you other hand now tell me how often your index finger(of the clenching hand) appears longer than your middle finger. Chances are, it isn't simply because it has more fist to travel over than your middle finger and is genetically usually shorter. Now in the image though, the middle finger is depicted as the shortest finger clutching Niko's hand so clearly, theres been a mistake. It also looks wrong. Thats what i was pointing out. If by bending you mean, bending the figer itself so that its the only finger not clutching but rather digging into the hand, then i won't arguing with you there... except thats a rather uncomfortable way to handle a firearm. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
willgtavcs Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 think of it this way dont make any facial expressions take a picture of yourself 5 minutes later take another pic what do you know the expressions look almost exactly the same try it with different expressions as well you will look very simarlar these 2 pics are simarlar but they are realistic Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceedot Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Well, most people look the same all the time. I'm glad he has any facial expressions at all. The other characters just shot like vegetables. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 When Niko fires the machine gun it looks as though he's screaming. I think that he'll react differently to certain guns. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlx Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 A lot of games have facial expressions for shooting.. in the end when you fire a gun at somebody, you're not gonna see it anyway, cause Niko's back will be towards the screen. It's a lot cooler that in the trailer when Niko fires the assault rifle up the stairs, he slides back with the recoil. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OysterBarron Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Does it really matter? It's an expression, deal with it. Do you think I was complaining or something? I was simply acknowledging that I thought they looked similar. I found it interesting, actually. I was asking what people think will trigger the expressions. Please don't be so hostile when nobody has argued yet. well due to the fact he is holding the same pistol i think thats his pistol firing face, I expect him to have a massive evil smile on his face when he uses the rocket launcher lol Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursfan111 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Nice spot Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan207 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Who Cares? Your not going to be seeing that camera angle when he shoots because you woun't be able to see the person who your shooting, and camera angle is Gears of War style, and did you shoot like that in gears of war? No. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OysterBarron Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Who Cares? Your not going to be seeing that camera angle when he shoots because you woun't be able to see the person who your shooting, and camera angle is Gears of War style, and did you shoot like that in gears of war? No. lol do you know what you are talking about, Im sure in gears of war when you blindfired you still saw your characters face. with the same feature confirmed to be in GTAIV then we will be able to see Nikos face. also did you forget that in previous GTA incarnations you have been able to rotate the camera 360 degrees around your character to see the front of him, which also allowed you to get the perspective asif the main character was shooting at you. Also i think we shall see many cutscenes where niko is shooting at people and we can see the front of his face. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenFire Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 Who Cares? Your not going to be seeing that camera angle when he shoots because you woun't be able to see the person who your shooting, and camera angle is Gears of War style, and did you shoot like that in gears of war? No. Rockstar cares. So to all of you idiots who don't care, shut the f*ck up, and get out of the forum. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I noticed the two expressions were similar the minute I saw the newer screenshot. And the teeth are kind-of ridiculous. They really aren't looking realistic, at all. His hands are also too perfect in the shots, they wouldn't look so soft and young. I wish his expressions weren't so, downright weird. But I could go on and on.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
illspirit Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Maybe he's just angry at himself for not knowing how to grip a pistol? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak-4seven Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I noticed the two expressions were similar the minute I saw the newer screenshot. And the teeth are kind-of ridiculous. They really aren't looking realistic, at all. His hands are also too perfect in the shots, they wouldn't look so soft and young. I wish his expressions weren't so, downright weird. But I could go on and on.. "too perfect"?? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrel Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 (edited) You want him to have a unique facial expression for every action he preforms everytime single time? He is obviously going to have a similar facial expression everytime he preforms the same action ie this case firing a weapon. If you notice his face expression is not identical? Also his hand placements are slightly different too. You people expect way too much. @ FrozenFire who are you to tell people to gtfo of the forums? All becasue they disagree with you. I respect you're opinion, but you are being too picky. Edited January 1, 2008 by Darrel Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenFire Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 You want him to have a unique facial expression for every action he preforms everytime single time? He is obviously going to have a similar facial expression everytime he preforms the same action ie this case firing a weapon. If you notice his face expression is not identical? Also his hand placements are slightly different too. You people expect way too much. I wish for once, someone would read my posts, and try to understand what i'm saying. I POINTED OUT that his facial expression is SIMILAR. I was simply STATING that. I never COMPLAINED. Nobody in this f*cking thread has complained about it, even. Reading and comprehension please. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/305531-am-i-seeing-double/?do=findComment&comment=1057371935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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