Ring_of_Fire Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 (edited) You know that sound the drives inside your computer make when it wakes up from standby (sleep mode) or when your computer is first turned on or rebooted? Well, the only problem is that I am hearing it in Windows! It also happens even when playing games and it will freeze everything on the screen for a sec until the sound is gone! So if I try to open up any program whether it be IE or an operating system applet, it makes my computer freeze for a sec and then back to normal . Sometimes I get lucky though when it doesn't freeze while using the computer for several hours - but it can still happen at any time and sometimes even frequently! Here's what I did to fix it though. In this screenshot is me having two IDE primary and secondary (Master/Slave) hard drives. What will happen after disabling the secondary hard drive is that the issue I am complaining about in this thread will be GONE for good! I remember once someone said to me it's because since both hard drives are connected to the same IDE1 port, it will "steal" bandwidth and will cause the computer to freeze. So what I did was to simply put my secondary hard drive into the IDE2 port (leaving me of course without optical CD/DVD drives ) and the SAME exact thing happened! I really need to find a way to use both hard drives without the computer freezing because I have important files on both of 'em. So can anyone tell me why the ONLY way to fix my problem described here is by disabling any extra hard drives and leaving only the primary one? Is there any other methods apart from using Device Manager or by taking out the hard drive out of the computer case? Will upgrading my hard drives to a SATA interface fix this problem as well? This is not really a major issue for me since after it freezes, it doesn't reboot the computer but instead resumes the state of Windows - but I just want to get it fixed! Edited December 22, 2007 by Ring_of_Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primer43 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 (edited) Does your computer have SATA ports on it? You could buy a SATA to IDE adapter which would eliminate the strain on the IDE. Edit: This got decent reviews on Newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822998001 Edited December 22, 2007 by Primer43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Woah. Is it not about time you upgrade to Windows XP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring_of_Fire Posted December 22, 2007 Author Share Posted December 22, 2007 Yes, it has SATA ports. So I guess buying 2 or more SATA hard drives will fix all the freezing associated with 2 or more IDE drives... Woah. Is it not about time you upgrade to Windows XP? Oh yeah, forgot to mention that it also happens in WINDOWS XP! To fix it, I have to disable my secondary hard drive and I don't like doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drvixx Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Woah. Is it not about time you upgrade to Windows XP? I was about to say maybe it’s a 'Vista' problem?!?! As i haven’t come across/heard about this problem before in XP. EDIT... I was already posting, did know about the above post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring_of_Fire Posted December 22, 2007 Author Share Posted December 22, 2007 As i haven’t come across/heard about this problem before in XP. Do you have at least two IDE/ATA (not SATA) hard drives inside your computer as well? Do you get freezes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primer43 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Yes, it has SATA ports. So I guess buying 2 or more SATA hard drives will fix all the freezing associated with 2 or more IDE drives... Woah. Is it not about time you upgrade to Windows XP? Oh yeah, forgot to mention that it also happens in WINDOWS XP! To fix it, I have to disable my secondary hard drive and I don't like doing that. Why buy a new hard drive when you can buy a $15 adapter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring_of_Fire Posted December 22, 2007 Author Share Posted December 22, 2007 (edited) You could buy a SATA to IDE adapter which would eliminate the strain on the IDE. Did you meant an IDE to SATA adapter? I'll try buying it. Let's see if it will make a difference in fixing my problem because it's probably a motherboard problem with the IDE ports, and my drivers are all up-to-date already via the ATI Catalyst Software Suite 7.11 drivers. Wow, Catalyst 7.12 came out! Shouldn't matter anyway. Edited December 22, 2007 by Ring_of_Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primer43 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I meant what I linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drvixx Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 As i haven’t come across/heard about this problem before in XP. Do you have at least two IDE/ATA (not SATA) hard drives inside your computer as well? Do you get freezes? I have two IDE HDD’s and everything works fine! My Motherboard has SATA connection, but I don’t use them Wow, Catalyst 7.12 came out! I downloaded it today! It seemed a very long install though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saget Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I have one IDE connector on my motherboard, and connected to it there are one hard drive and one DVD drive. BOTH RUN SLOW AS sh*t. I imagine it gets worse when it's two hard drives. After you changed the IDE cables, did you set the jumpers and the bios right? |DeviantArt|Flickr|YouTube|#amf| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring_of_Fire Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 Jumpers on my motherboard are limited except for the JPWD and the JCMOS jumpers. Plus, my motherboard is an OEM so the default settings should be right. The BIOS is set on the optimized defaults and there are no firmware updates for the the MSI-7093 Radeon Xpress 200 OEM motherboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saget Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Jumpers on my motherboard are limited except for the JPWD and the JCMOS jumpers. Plus, my motherboard is an OEM so the default settings should be right. The BIOS is set on the optimized defaults and there are no firmware updates for the the MSI-7093 Radeon Xpress 200 OEM motherboard. Naahh, the jumpers on your hard drive, for hell's sake! You know - master, slave, cable select... you actually have to set that right in order for it to work properly. And don't tell me new hard drives don't have that because my 4 months old SATA drive does, as well as my 3 year old IDE drive. |DeviantArt|Flickr|YouTube|#amf| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring_of_Fire Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 Naahh, the jumpers on your hard drive, for hell's sake! You know - master, slave, cable select... you actually have to set that right in order for it to work properly. And don't tell me new hard drives don't have that because my 4 months old SATA drive does, as well as my 3 year old IDE drive. If you looked at the screenshot above, my primary hard drive is at "Location 0". For the secondary hard drive to be at "Location 1" in the first place, simply means that one or the other had to be either the Master/Slave already. Obviously the one at Loc 0 would be the master. So I really don't think this is a Master/Slave issue... Anything else??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saget Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Naahh, the jumpers on your hard drive, for hell's sake! You know - master, slave, cable select... you actually have to set that right in order for it to work properly. And don't tell me new hard drives don't have that because my 4 months old SATA drive does, as well as my 3 year old IDE drive. If you looked at the screenshot above, my primary hard drive is at "Location 0". For the secondary hard drive to be at "Location 1" in the first place, simply means that one or the other had to be either the Master/Slave already. Obviously the one at Loc 0 would be the master. So I really don't think this is a Master/Slave issue... Anything else??? But if you change the location of the flat cables you have to set the jumpers accordingly! |DeviantArt|Flickr|YouTube|#amf| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring_of_Fire Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 (edited) My hard drives have been paired up and connected to the same IDE1 port because they are using one single IDE cable and not both. They don't have their own separate IDE cables and so one will never be connected to the IDE2 port, as my optical drives have taken that position already. Anymore suggestions as to how I can fix this noise problem when Windows freezes for a sec, and then back to normal? Are you sure you guys know which sound I am talking about? I can record it using my tape recorder or Windows "Sound Recorder" via a microphone, and then upload it as a .wav/.mp3 file for you. upload the sound! Hold on, someone borrowed my tape recorder. is it a clicking sound? A POST sound with the hard drives and my optical drives. Edited December 23, 2007 by Ring_of_Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drvixx Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 upload the sound! is it a clicking sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring_of_Fire Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 (edited) http://www.freewebs.com/dirtring/Audio.wma (Resuming from standby does have a similar noise to when my Windows freezes. The only difference is that the fan noise isn't present when my computer freezes during Windows operation.) @ 00:00 = is me pushing the power button to resume from standby. 00:00 - 00:04 = is some weird noise. 00:04 - 00:06 = is coming from my optical drives. 00:06 - 00:13 = is my loud darn Maxtor hard drive. The sound in the background is coming from my Radeon X1950 fan. Edited December 24, 2007 by Ring_of_Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primer43 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Sounds like a f*cking vacuum, damn thats loud. Sounds mechanical, although I couldn't hear it too well. Maybe the hard drive is knocking? Not sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoZero Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 This sound like a power issue really, make sure the power connectors on teh hdds are plugged in properly, it may take a bit of force to get them in properly. Second, it might be a stand-by issue, harddisks could be configured to go in standby after a while if you don't use them, as soon as you try to access them it will 'freeze' for a few seconds while waiting for it to spin up. Harddisks can go into standby even when you are doing some things because most applications are loaded into memory and don't need disk access. This can be configured in either the BIOS or somewhere in the Windows power options (no idea where it is in Vista). Also, I believe some brands (but at least NOT Seagate, Western Digital or Maxtor) have hdds with a hardware timer that puts them in stand-by, that can not be controlled by BIOS or Windows, you'll need some utility to disable that, no idea about one for Windows. If neither of those things are the case then check if you're using a proper IDE133 cable, not the slow 66 ones (133 cables are thicker and tougher). Also, check if UDMA is enabled in the BIOS for both disks, without it they'll be really really slow. BOTH RUN SLOW AS sh*t. I imagine it gets worse when it's two hard drives. Actually, it's faster with 2 hdds, always put your CD/DVD drive on a separated cable, not on the same cable as an HDD. It will run at the speed of the slowest device on the cable, CD and DVD drives run at IDE 66mhz speed, while modern IDE HDDs run at either 100mhz or 133mhz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring_of_Fire Posted December 24, 2007 Author Share Posted December 24, 2007 http://70.85.203.226/hardware/wwwboard/forum/47912.html (Computing.Net) Yes, I am the member, trashmaster. OtheHill said buying a SATA hard drive should work. I was thinking about setting both my primary and secondary hard drives to a MASTER and then put them in IDE1/IDE2 respectively, but I am not sure if that will work. I tried it though, but instead one was the SLAVE and it didn't work. The issue is that you have both the harddrives on the same controller. PATA means Parallel ATA. One controller with two possible devices sharing the available bandwidth. Move the secondary drive if you have a second IDE controller. If not, I just finished with a thread here where the poster indicated they had an IDE to SATA adapter that worked. What kind of opticla drives are you running?Flashing the BIOS won't help this condition. Using a SATA HD as your boot drive will also work. SATA drives are by the nature of the controller all Masters. Hope this will give everyone a clue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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