Something is going terribly wrong...

[Saget]

 

IS MY VIDEO CARD ACTUALLY AT THAT TEMPERATURE?!

 

If so, can that be caused only by bad cooling?

 

I noticed that my computer totally shut off when I tried to play a game (it wasn't even that heavy), so I downloaded Everest to see what was wrong, since I couldn't see anything in BIOS. At least the motherboard and processor temperatures are ok.

 

I'll try to open the case and see if that temperature gets better. I'll even leave my computer off for longer. Dammit, this computer is not even 6 months old... sht.

[SyphonPayne]

Maybe the fan died?

[Ring_of_Fire]

Maybe its because you maxed out the graphics settings too much while playing games? You can't expect to remain cool after playing hardware-demanding games like Crysis or Assassin's Creed. Try using lower graphics settings. If you mean that you get that same temperature even in the Windows environment and not while playing games, then it's a fan issue. Open up the computer case and make sure it is actually soinning...

 

Are you tweaking ForceWare/Catalyst too much? Just leave it at the factory default settings. Also, are you overclocking too much?

 

And Everest might not give accurate readings of your GPU temperatures. Try monitoring from now on using ForceWare Control Panel or nTune -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html

Edited December 22, 2007 by Ring_of_Fire

[GTA3Freak-2001]

The fan on your GPU may have failed so that's one thing to tick off.

 

 

[Saget]

I just opened the case and yeah, the fan isn't spinning. Awesome.

 

HOW DO I FIX THAT?! Damn...

 

Edit: well, I left the computer off for a few minutes, opened the case, turned it on and now the temperature is around 65°C. That should do until I get that fan spinning again...

[Ring_of_Fire]

 

I just opened the case and yeah, the fan isn't spinning. Awesome.

 

HOW DO I FIX THAT?! Damn...

Wow, I edited my post just in time for you to say that!

 

To fix a fan spinning issue, make sure to plug the PCI-E power cable connector properly into the graphics card! And also, there is ANOTHER power cable somewhere on the graphics board itself - locate it and make sure it is plugged in properly as well!

 

http://i.pricerunner.com/prod/1_8_6_12_887...DVI_TV-OUT.jpeg

Notice how there is the PCI-E power connector, as well as the FAN connector? Make sure both are plugged in properly on your specific graphics card.

 

 

Edit: well, I left the computer off for a few minutes, opened the case, turned it on and now the temperature is around 65°C.

That's because you must have left it off to make it remain cool. It will heat up rapidily as soon as it is turned on.

[Saget]

 

I just opened the case and yeah, the fan isn't spinning. Awesome.

 

HOW DO I FIX THAT?! Damn...

Wow, I edited my just in time for you to say that!

 

To fix a fan spinning issue, make sure to plug the PCI-E power cable connector properly into the graphics card! And also, there is ANOTHER power cable somewhere on the graphics board itself - locate it and make sure it is plugged in properly as well!

 

http://i.pricerunner.com/prod/1_8_6_12_887...DVI_TV-OUT.jpeg

Notice how there is the PCI-E power connector, as well as the FAN connector. Nake sure both are plugged in properly on your specific graphics card.

 

 

Edit: well, I left the computer off for a few minutes, opened the case, turned it on and now the temperature is around 65°C.

That's because you must have left it off to make it remain cool. It will heat up rapidily as soon as it is turned on.

This video card (ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro) doesn't have a power connector as far as I know. But I'll check...

 

Edit: found a picture of a card similar to mine:

 

 

Edit2: TEMPERATURE IS BEGINNING TO REACH 90°C, I'll turn this computer off and just use another one for now.

Edited December 22, 2007 by Saget

[Ring_of_Fire]

When you said you got 100+ degrees celcius, do you get that temp even when NOT playing games?

 

 

ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro)

It has a FAN connector though, but not a power connector. http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php...=1&limitstart=8

 

 

Edit2: TEMPERATURE IS BEGINNING TO REACH 90°C, I'll turn this computer off and just use another one for now.

Advices:

 

1. Please use Catalyst Control Center for accurate temp readings. 3rd-Party softwares ain't acceptable!

2. Make sure buy a power supply that has dual fans.

3. Make sure you have a system fan.

4. Apply heat sink compound (thermal paste) onto the graphics chipset if possible.

5. Buy a Thermaltake liquid cooler case which is basically like a refridgerator/freezer inside it.

6. Please check temps while not playing games (Windows environment).

Edited December 22, 2007 by Ring_of_Fire

[Saget]

When you said you got 100+ degrees celcius, do you get that temp even when NOT playing games?

 

 

ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro)

It has a FAN connector though, but not a power connector. http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php...=1&limitstart=8

 

 

Edit2: TEMPERATURE IS BEGINNING TO REACH 90°C, I'll turn this computer off and just use another one for now.

Advices:

 

1. Please use ForceWare or nTunes for accurate temp readings.

2. Make sure buy a power supply that has dual fans.

3. Make sure you have a system fan.

4. Apply heat sink compound (thermal paste) onto the graphics chipset if possible.

5. Buy a Thermaltake liquid cooler case which is basically like a refridgerator/freezer inside it.

6. Please check temps while not playing games (Windows environment).

No. That temperature is too much for ANY computer part. I guess my video card used to reach a normal temperature, because I played games, heavy ones, withouth any problems. This began to happen less than half an hour ago.

 

The fan is properly connected. It used to work, and I never opened the case and changed anything inside my computer ever since I mounted it. Only thing is: it used to make a loud noise, which would go away shortly after Windows was loaded. I even posted about this here, and people said it was normal. Ok, BUT NOW THE FAN IS DEAD! (I don't blame you, don't worry, that was a joke). And I guess there is no more warranty for my video card, but I'll check with my dad, he's the one who bought everything after all.

[Saggy]

Saget, do you know how many fans your case has? Your processor seems a little too hot, and that only displays one fan. If you added an intake and maybe one more exhaust, you could probably bring the temperature of your graphics card down pretty low. If need be, you could also buy a fan and somehow fit it into the case to blow on the video card. Those fans always have a habbit of burning out.

 

Where did you buy it? Any chance of RMA'ing it?

 

I wouldn't suggest applying thermal paste to the heatsink, they're a bitch to reattach in all of my experience.

[Saget]

Saget, do you know how many fans your case has? Your processor seems a little too hot, and that only displays one fan. If you added an intake and maybe one more exhaust, you could probably bring the temperature of your graphics card down pretty low. If need be, you could also buy a fan and somehow fit it into the case to blow on the video card. Those fans always have a habbit of burning out.

 

Where did you buy it? Any chance of RMA'ing it?

 

I wouldn't suggest applying thermal paste to the heatsink, they're a bitch to reattach in all of my experience.

I refuse to mess with the video card fan. I'll send it somewhere to get fixed, but I won't do that myself.

 

My case has three fans: the dead video card fan, the processor fan and the PSU fan. Just the default stuff. The video card fan doesn't show up on Everest, neither the PSU one. The processor is fine, this temperature is ok for summer. I've seen worst and they used to work normally.

 

Adding another fan is a possibility, yeah. I'll see if I can get any after christmas, since everything will be closed now.

 

I bought my video card on a local store. I have no idea of RMA is, my bad. But as I said, I'll check with dad how is the warranty, to see if I can get the card replaced or fixed.

[Picolini]

I'd say remove it for now. You'll have to run on the onboard graphics for now. You don't want it over heating and causing a meltdown on your PC. 105 is damn hot!

[Saget]

I'd say remove it for now. You'll have to run on the onboard graphics for now. You don't want it over heating and causing a meltdown on your PC. 105 is damn hot!

Tell me about it! When I saw that temperature I was surprised the whole computer was still up and running!

 

I'll remove that when the morning comes. I don't have enough space to do that right now, I'll have to move the drawers thing and it's too noisy to be done at nearly 5am when everyone is asleep. Oh wait, it is morning already. I'll remove the video card when everyone is awake xD

[The Miker]

When the fan on my video card died I propped up a case fan underneath it to keep it cool. It won't keep it as cool as the normal fan did, but it'll help in the meantime until you can fix it or whatever.

[3niX]

Well...

Did you notice any dust down there... it can affect the amount of heat the fan is getting, which in terms can affect its ability to work.

Had a similar problem about half a year ago. My PC got fairly dusty, fairly quick. So, at some point my GPU fan decided that it would be a good time to stop working... which meant that the temperatures started rising inside the PC and especially near the GPU. I fixed the problem with an extra case fan and a dust filter infront of it. Each month I gather the dust from the filter and its all been fine so far.

[Primer43]

 

Saget, do you know how many fans your case has?  Your processor seems a little too hot, and that only displays one fan.

The processor is running cool. My processor runs much hotter than that.

 

As for the fan, I'm sure you can buy a replacement from ATI...

[matthew1g]

I suggest taking out the card, take apart the fan and see if anything's got tangled in it, then try connecting it to the motherboard (AFAIK, case fans and GPU fans use the same connection, if not try connecting it to another Graphic card)

[Rocketkiller]

Since the fan doesn't spin, take out the video card and make sure the connector's plugged in, and then check for dust. It might have built up and stopped the fan from moving. If that's ok then I would RMA it, or if it's out of warranty put on an aftermarket cooler. That's what I did when the fan on my 9600 pro died. Or if you have a spare case fan ziptie it or something to the card so it blows onto the heatsink.

 

And don't pay attention to what ring_of_fire said, the fan's clearly dead, you don't need a new f*cking PSU, or case, or intake fan, or thermal paste. Also try ATITool for accurate temp reading, everest is know to be crap at GPU temps reading.

[Saget]

Since the fan doesn't spin, take out the video card and make sure the connector's plugged in, and then check for dust. It might have built up and stopped the fan from moving. If that's ok then I would RMA it, or if it's out of warranty put on an aftermarket cooler. That's what I did when the fan on my 9600 pro died. Or if you have a spare case fan ziptie it or something to the card so it blows onto the heatsink.

 

And don't pay attention to what ring_of_fire said, the fan's clearly dead, you don't need a new f*cking PSU, or case, or intake fan, or thermal paste. Also try ATITool for accurate temp reading, everest is know to be crap at GPU temps reading.

Yeah, I'm no computer noob so I know what I need and what I don't.

I just saw the "random questions" topic where everest was showing crazy temperatures for someone's motherboard, but I guess in my case it was very close to the real temperatures.

 

I took the card to the store where I bought it, since it was still in warranty. They didn't have another cooler like mine there, so I just left the card there and they will replace the cooler as soon as they can. If they take too long I'll just get my card back =)

 

I thought the cooler was too dusty for just 4 months of use, but that's how it usually gets anyway. The rest of the computer didn't look so dirty though.

 

Sadly, my motherboard doesn't have an AGP slot so I can't use my old gffx5200. I'll just try to get used to this weird notebook keyboard. And at least this notebook can run a n64 emulator xD

[Ring_of_Fire]

 

you don't need a new f*cking PSU, or case, or intake fan, or thermal paste.

Those were actually advices for when his fan gets fixed or replaced so that it doesn't ever happen again. If you don't have good cooling equipment inside the computer case - then expect higher GPU temps when playing games, which will result in the fan spinning even more and result in a failure like what happened to Saget's graphics card fan. If the cooling is already good enough, then the fan won't have to spin a lot and this will allow for it to become more resistable and durable to a failure.

 

 

 

IS MY VIDEO CARD ACTUALLY AT THAT TEMPERATURE?!

Was it like that before? For it to suddenly reach that temp without running any games simply means your overall system had not-so-good cooling which will cause a fan from a graphics card like a Radeon HD 2600 to suffer severely. I also realized your CPU and system temperatures ain't good at all so you lack the proper cooling equipment in the very first place.

 

Well, that's what I think could have caused your fan to die out...

Edited December 23, 2007 by Ring_of_Fire

[Saget]

you don't need a new f*cking PSU, or case, or intake fan, or thermal paste.

Those were actually advices for when his fan gets fixed or replaced so that it doesn't ever happen again. If you don't have good cooling equipment inside the computer case - then expect higher GPU temps when playing games, which will result in the fan spinning even more and result in a failure like what happened to Saget's graphics card fan. If the cooling is already good enough, then the fan won't have to spin a lot and this will allow for it to become more resistable and durable to a failure.

 

 

 

IS MY VIDEO CARD ACTUALLY AT THAT TEMPERATURE?!

Was it like that before? For it to suddenly reach that temp without running any games simply means your overall system had not-so-good cooling which will cause a fan from a graphics card like a Radeon HD 2600 to suffer severely. I also realized your CPU and system temperatures ain't good at all so you lack the proper cooling equipment in the very first place.

 

Well, that's what I think could have caused your fan to die out...

The other temperatures are good, LEAVE THEM ALONE.

 

The GPU reached that temperature because the fan died and not because I have bad cooling. Maybe I can add another fan or two, but from my experience it won't make any significant changes.

[Rocketkiller]

 

you don't need a new f*cking PSU, or case, or intake fan, or thermal paste.

Those were actually advices for when his fan gets fixed or replaced so that it doesn't ever happen again. If you don't have good cooling equipment inside the computer case - then expect higher GPU temps when playing games, which will result in the fan spinning even more and result in a failure like what happened to Saget's graphics card fan. If the cooling is already good enough, then the fan won't have to spin a lot and this will allow for it to become more resistable and durable to a failure.

 

 

 

IS MY VIDEO CARD ACTUALLY AT THAT TEMPERATURE?!

Was it like that before? For it to suddenly reach that temp without running any games simply means your overall system had not-so-good cooling which will cause a fan from a graphics card like a Radeon HD 2600 to suffer severely. I also realized your CPU and system temperatures ain't good at all so you lack the proper cooling equipment in the very first place.

 

Well, that's what I think could have caused your fan to die out...

I can't see how a PSU or an intake fan would help, but sure, whatever you say.... An intake fan is next to useless if you don't have an exhaust fan, and the way most cases are designed, an intake fan wouldn't do sh*t anyway because there's nowhere for them to draw air from. Take my case for example, my CPU temp drops by about 2-3C when I open the door on the front of the case, and when it's closed it has pretty much the same airflow potential as a normal case. And a new case would help, but not a f*cking refrigerated case like you said, last time I looked those were upwards of $400. What caused his fan to die was too much dust and high RPMs, possibly caused by heat, but since his other temps are fine I doubt it.

Edited December 23, 2007 by Rocketkiller

[Saggy]

you don't need a new f*cking PSU, or case, or intake fan, or thermal paste.

Those were actually advices for when his fan gets fixed or replaced so that it doesn't ever happen again. If you don't have good cooling equipment inside the computer case - then expect higher GPU temps when playing games, which will result in the fan spinning even more and result in a failure like what happened to Saget's graphics card fan. If the cooling is already good enough, then the fan won't have to spin a lot and this will allow for it to become more resistable and durable to a failure.

 

 

 

IS MY VIDEO CARD ACTUALLY AT THAT TEMPERATURE?!

Was it like that before? For it to suddenly reach that temp without running any games simply means your overall system had not-so-good cooling which will cause a fan from a graphics card like a Radeon HD 2600 to suffer severely. I also realized your CPU and system temperatures ain't good at all so you lack the proper cooling equipment in the very first place.

 

Well, that's what I think could have caused your fan to die out...

I can't see how a PSU or an intake fan would help, but sure, whatever you say.... An intake fan is next to useless if you don't have an exhaust fan, and the way most cases are designed, an intake fan wouldn't do sh*t anyway because there's nowhere for them to draw air from. Take my case for example, my CPU temp drops by about 2-3C when I open the door on the front of the case, and when it's closed it has pretty much the same airflow potential as a normal case. And a new case would help, but not a f*cking refrigerated case like you said, last time I looked those were upwards of $400. What caused his fan to die was too much dust and high RPMs, possibly caused by heat, but since his other temps are fine I doubt it.

Well, good air flow can help a lot in some situations. My case is pretty cool thanks to all of the air-flow, but my old one it didn't seem to make much difference if I was pushing 54 CFM out or 20.

 

I would run some temperature programs from ATI or whomever is the chip maker first though just to make sure those temperatures are even correct. I know that any time I ever connected to one of my "diode" sensors on my old motherboard with Motherboard Monitor 5, it always told me it was somewhere around 200 C, but my motherboard generally read about 54 C, so some of those software alternatives can give pretty varying results.

[Saget]

you don't need a new f*cking PSU, or case, or intake fan, or thermal paste.

Those were actually advices for when his fan gets fixed or replaced so that it doesn't ever happen again. If you don't have good cooling equipment inside the computer case - then expect higher GPU temps when playing games, which will result in the fan spinning even more and result in a failure like what happened to Saget's graphics card fan. If the cooling is already good enough, then the fan won't have to spin a lot and this will allow for it to become more resistable and durable to a failure.

 

 

 

IS MY VIDEO CARD ACTUALLY AT THAT TEMPERATURE?!

Was it like that before? For it to suddenly reach that temp without running any games simply means your overall system had not-so-good cooling which will cause a fan from a graphics card like a Radeon HD 2600 to suffer severely. I also realized your CPU and system temperatures ain't good at all so you lack the proper cooling equipment in the very first place.

 

Well, that's what I think could have caused your fan to die out...

I can't see how a PSU or an intake fan would help, but sure, whatever you say.... An intake fan is next to useless if you don't have an exhaust fan, and the way most cases are designed, an intake fan wouldn't do sh*t anyway because there's nowhere for them to draw air from. Take my case for example, my CPU temp drops by about 2-3C when I open the door on the front of the case, and when it's closed it has pretty much the same airflow potential as a normal case. And a new case would help, but not a f*cking refrigerated case like you said, last time I looked those were upwards of $400. What caused his fan to die was too much dust and high RPMs, possibly caused by heat, but since his other temps are fine I doubt it.

Hers, I'm a girl, please. And that goes to all of you.

 

After the card is fixed I'll look for appropriate programs to read the temperatures.

I'll also buy a pair of fans. My case has lots of places for them anyway.

 

Hmm. I just remembered something.

 

The day before the video card fan died, I was charging two iPods, listening to internet radio, and started playing GTA:SA. Then during the game, the computer shut off. I thought it was because I might have overloaded the PSU, so I disconnected both iPods and the computer ran ok from there, at least until the next day.

Is it possible that this, IF the PSU was really overloaded, might have caused the fan to stop? I guess not because more things should've failed then, right?

[Rocketkiller]

There's no way you overloaded your PSU by charging 2 ipods. Each will only take a maximum of 500 mA off the +5V rail, and 1A is nothing for modern PSUs. And an overloaded PSU wouldn't wreck a fan AFAIK, it could wreck everything else, but nothing as simple as an electric motor.

[Sixdust]

The suggestion of adding extra case ans is a good one. Another suggestion would be to put the case in a well ventilation so the hot air has room to circulate around the room, as opposed to under a desk. I currently have a CPU fan w/heatsink on my P4 cpu, a fan w/heatsink on my gpu, two fans on my PSU, one big intake on the front of my case, an output fan above the graphics card on the back of my case, and an intake fan above the output one blowing towards my cpu. The output fan is on a slant to blow air away from the input and give it time to cool. Then on the side of my case, in the center of the panel, I have a big outtake fan, pulling heat from all over the motherboard, the harddrives and other sources of heat. Then next to the middle outtake, located in front of the PCI slots and gpu, I have two intakes blowing on the cards, one directly onto the gpu card. This helped a bunch when I was overclocking my 6800gt 512mb agp alot. Also, since my desk is custom made, I took out drawers and stored them in the nick that was made to hold the PC case, and used the larger area once occupied by drawers to give proper room for circulation.

 

I am really surprised that you have such a good PC and yet it has so little keeping it cool. Add some fans, possibly even some HDD fans to keep them cool too. Then there is the option of watercooling for better overclocling. I overclocked my old and faithful Radeon 9800 almost a 85% increase (the card was a great clocker). Anyway, the point is that I overclocked it so much, and I forgot that I needed better cooling to keep the gpu stable and cool. Well, the day also happened to be a hot summer day, with lots of humidity and I had no air conditioning in my room, so I relied on my tabletop fan to keep me cool. Nut, since I was playing intense games on my PC with high settings (FEAR, BF2 etc.,) I had setup alerts for high temperatures, to which kept happening alot, forcing me to quit the games, underclocking the card, and quickly moving my fan to the side of my pc to blow an assload of air onto the card. Well I played with my luck way too much and my card died.

 

The moral of my story, get some fans, check for lowest db (decibals) which is loudness of the fan plus highest amount of air being pushed by the fan. Also, I really need to upgrade my older PC.

[Picolini]

No one's mentioned this yet, keep the fan blades clean! Dust f*cking loves to sit right on the blades, and it's a bitch to get off. It can weigh down on them, damaging the motor, or at least slowing it down. It'll cause it to burn out much faster.

 

Also, make sure the intake fan guard/slots/mesh/filter area isn't built up. This was mine after six months!

 

 

Needless to say, I've been keeping an eye on it much more now.

[Otter]

Ring, the fan didn't die because of poor cooling. You've got to scale back from handing out superfluous advice, dude!

 

The card's damaged. Bottom line. Fix it or replace it. I know, it sucks, but unless you know what you're doing, futzing around with fans inside your machine is a good way to destroy something. It looks like everything else in your machine is a comfortable temperature to me.

 

And yeah, what pic said. Take some compressed air to the fan if it's super dusty. There's a small chance it's just super clogged. Also, it you want to return it under warranty, sending it in clean will improve your odds.

[Primer43]

No one's mentioned this yet, keep the fan blades clean! Dust f*cking loves to sit right on the blades, and it's a bitch to get off. It can weigh down on them, damaging the motor, or at least slowing it down. It'll cause it to burn out much faster.

 

Also, make sure the intake fan guard/slots/mesh/filter area isn't built up. This was mine after six months!

 

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Needless to say, I've been keeping an eye on it much more now.

Daaammmn Glad you're keeping up on that, I can't stand dirt in my pc.

 

 

Ring, the fan didn't die because of poor cooling. You've got to scale back from handing out superfluous advice, dude!

 

Haha, that made my day. (Sad, isn't it)

[Saget]

@Sixdust: Aww. Spending lots of money on good parts means you have no money left for extras. My old computer had a case with a side fan and acrillic window, and I don't really know what was up with it, the fan seemed to just throw more dust in than air. The temperatures were good, though.

 

As a matter of fact, my computers always seem to get really dusty in little time. I don't know why, it's pretty far from the floor and it's not so close to the window. I don't bother cleaning them because it's a pain in the ass; cleaning is something I REALLY don't enjoy. Let's see if I can get some case fans and just hope they blow some dust away.

 

@Picolini: My processor fan blades already have some dust there. It doesn't seem too bad though.

 

Ahh crap, dust makes me so angry that sometimes I just wanna wrap this stupid computer on a plastic bag so no more dust comes in ¬¬