GTA IV's Graphics suck!

[Rashon.]

Gta on it’s 4th, 3d release, (where the gta wagon first started steam-rolling on a mainstream)

Number one, it's on its 6th 3D release (All these asses forgetting LCS and VCS). Second, the graphics do not suck. They have never seen this realistic until now.

[Snake Without a Tongue]

I didn't think the graphics sucked as much as the animation. Why is Niko incapable of putting his arms down? Everybody goes around holding their arms out to their sides. Looks dumb.

 

GTA has always been a game to view from a distance. And now it's that much better up close. Good blood effects, good hands, good guns, good God.

 

I worry about where they'll go from here if they've already pushed the envelope to the max.

[chowdig]

in my opinion the graphics are great. some people just expect too much

[Darrel]

I’ve wanted to try to post a intelligent non-trailer topic for a while, and I’m going to do it. It’ll get 3 responses before being lost to the second page, forever, but who cares.

 

The graphics of GTA suck!

 

They do, compare COD4, Mass Effect, Halo 3, even assassins creed, and for you ps3 fanboys, Drakes. All of the above beat GTA in one way or another graphically, in my opinion. And probabley yours. You know it’s true. I understand the circumstances, It’s not a hallway shooter, you sacrifice certain things(graphics), for gamepley.

 

Gameplay, gameplay will rule the “next gen,” Graphics will continue to get better till they look like movies, or better, but gameplay will innovate. Gta has been an innovator, and seems to be trying continue to do so. The question on everyones mind is will they? My only problem with this is, are we beating a dead fish, is it getting old. If they masses, people outside the direct GTA fanbase, are tired of shooting up a city after 3 episodes, then GTA’s in trouble. If they masses aren’t tired, or are excited be they gameplay possibilities, then they have a winner. It’s a gamble. (my concern R* has made the game too tough, through realism, appealing to fanboys more then the masses.)

 

Gta on it’s 4th, 3d release, (where the gta wagon first started steam-rolling on a mainstream level), has two outcomes possible, you loose interest from the current user-base, or you gain new fans. From google polling, referenced in other topics, shows a decline in ‘goggle’ searches pertaining to GTA, compared to previous installments of the series. While this doesn’t show anything except for the fact, they aren’t getting a new audience. Leaving only to disprove the second outcome, which can’t be accomplished till release day, despite heavy traffic on this site and others recently.

 

Leaving the gamble R* has made to ponder. If a games graphics suck compared to it’s rivals, can superior gameplay, and inferior graphics sustain an audience exposed to better graphics and worse gameplay, and furthermore, can it generate new fans through, word-of-mouth after release (substantiated by google searches), essential to growing the game to a new, tech friendly generation.

 

If you want to debate something I said, do it intelligently, you can say R* cars look great. Yea, well f*ck you forzas look better. You get my drift; it’s tit-for-tat, stupid. Look at the last paragraph and respond to that. Please.

Shut the f*ck up! know one cares what you think. this intelligent enough for you?

[Carbine23]

I think Rockstar's not showing us the full potential of the graphics, so they can surprise us when it's released

[Deuce Deuce]

 

I think Rockstar's not showing us the full potential of the graphics, so they can surprise us when it's released

Well I doubt that's true, why would they choose to scale down the graphics for the trailers and screenshots? A pointless job if you ask me; they don't look bad enough for anyone to think as such anyway, in my opinion.

 

I think the first ever trailer was the best in terms of showing of graphics and the lighting/shadow detail, and the third for action and showing off the physhics and new features. I didn't find the second trailer all that good, to be honest.

[AndyGanteks]

 

I agree in some ways, but it's hard to form a solid opinion. In much of pics, it looks pretty awful, but then the next set of pics looke awesome. The quality in the images is extremely random.

 

On the other hand, the game looks AMAZING in motion.

 

I thought that the hanging from the helicopter and truck bits from the second trailer was f*cking amazing graphically. I think the graphics in some shots are absolutely stunning, like this shot in the trailer for instance:

 

 

 

edit:

I'm ashamed

 

Better then San Andreas but it can be done way better.

 

The end.

 

 

Edited December 8, 2007 by AndySerb

[Deuce Deuce]

I've never seen this pic before.

 

That pic was taken from the third trailer.

[Bronx_Brohan]

The only people posting in here are the retard, excluding Vanilla, his point only makes sense. Everyone else just sucks.

damn you're riding on his dick hard

[Hope]

Let's be fair. The graphics don't suck completely. There have been a few shoddy screenshots but what you must remember that compared to the old games this is a huge leap forward. And, as you said, it will be gameplay that matters. The only ones who buy a game for the graphics are superficial individuals. Why appeal to the fickle and the simple?

I'm sure you understand this. Therefore any problems with the graphics are essentially unimportant. As long as there are no HUGE glitches we should be fine. And hey, Grand Theft Auto will remain as popular as ever. It has a wide ranging appeal to all gamers. Young, old, male, female. Maybe it's lost some steam but that's to be expected when the competition is so tough and the game itself has been delayed. But when it's released? Different story. Even if the reviews maul it (Which is possible) it will still sell in its millions. And then there's downloadable content. For a good while yet GTA will keep its crown.

That's not true, you have no statistics or anything, do you? And, I'm sorry, just because someone buys games for graphics doesn't mean they're fickle or simple. But I know you probably weren't saying it that seriously, right? I hope..

[Johnny Burbank]

You people are looking at this in a proverbial vacuum. When I played VC I felt like I was in Miami. When you get wrapped up in the game the graphics fade into the background. But if the game can't "immerse" you then you will start to notice the flaws. Just like in real life, if you are doing something exciting, everything takes place in your cranium and between your two ears. You don't notice the world around you b/c your emotions and adrenalin blur the outside world and it's about you.

 

I am sure if you are running from the cops in this game, racing a speedboat, popping off people, the graphics won't be THAT critical to making you feel you are there. You can read a book which is just words and it could put you in a place and make you feel you are there. So can a game.

[Typhus]

That's not true, you have no statistics or anything, do you? And, I'm sorry, just because someone buys games for graphics doesn't mean they're fickle or simple. But I know you probably weren't saying it that seriously, right? I hope..

Wait, wait, wait, so you're telling me that a person who buys a game SOLELY for the graphics isn't worthy of at least some small measure of contempt? You don't think it's rather sad that someone would spend their money on a game because and only because it looked pretty? That is fickle. People like that will fly off to the next flavour of the month. People like that are, quite frankly, misguided and missing out on games that may not look superb but have great gameplay.

[Starion]

Rockstar have got to make some compromises, this game is going to have much more on the screen at once to something like COD or Halo, so they're gonna have to skimp a bit to make it run smoothly.

[E-lasto]

the graphics overall dont suck.....the surroundings, the cars all look good its the player models that look crap in areas, in that third trailer it looks as though those player models are from the original xbox....

Ya, I can't see the difference between the two. Looks just like last gen.

[Soton]

Original poster doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. THE END. Just another topic that most of the kids make to compare totally unrelated games.

[Mikeol1987]

I’ve wanted to try to post a intelligent non-trailer topic for a while, and I’m going to do it. It’ll get 3 responses before being lost to the second page, forever, but who cares.

 

The graphics of GTA suck!

 

They do, compare COD4, Mass Effect, Halo 3, even assassins creed, and for you ps3 fanboys, Drakes. All of the above beat GTA in one way or another graphically, in my opinion. And probabley yours. You know it’s true. I understand the circumstances, It’s not a hallway shooter, you sacrifice certain things(graphics), for gamepley.

 

Gameplay, gameplay will rule the “next gen,” Graphics will continue to get better till they look like movies, or better, but gameplay will innovate. Gta has been an innovator, and seems to be trying continue to do so. The question on everyones mind is will they? My only problem with this is, are we beating a dead fish, is it getting old. If they masses, people outside the direct GTA fanbase, are tired of shooting up a city after 3 episodes, then GTA’s in trouble. If they masses aren’t tired, or are excited be they gameplay possibilities, then they have a winner. It’s a gamble. (my concern R* has made the game too tough, through realism, appealing to fanboys more then the masses.)

 

Gta on it’s 4th, 3d release, (where the gta wagon first started steam-rolling on a mainstream level), has two outcomes possible, you loose interest from the current user-base, or you gain new fans. From google polling, referenced in other topics, shows a decline in ‘goggle’ searches pertaining to GTA, compared to previous installments of the series. While this doesn’t show anything except for the fact, they aren’t getting a new audience. Leaving only to disprove the second outcome, which can’t be accomplished till release day, despite heavy traffic on this site and others recently.

 

Leaving the gamble R* has made to ponder. If a games graphics suck compared to it’s rivals, can superior gameplay, and inferior graphics sustain an audience exposed to better graphics and worse gameplay, and furthermore, can it generate new fans through, word-of-mouth after release (substantiated by google searches), essential to growing the game to a new, tech friendly generation.

 

If you want to debate something I said, do it intelligently, you can say R* cars look great. Yea, well f*ck you forzas look better. You get my drift; it’s tit-for-tat, stupid. Look at the last paragraph and respond to that. Please.

I Couldn't agree more with what you're saying here, I am one of the die hard GTA fans that have since slipped into a state of mind where I don't care wheter GTAIV comes out or not, I don't know... Maybe I'm just getting too old to play computer games (or moreover, get interested by them before they're release date)

 

I think the graphics don't completeley suck, but I did expect more. My main concern has been from the start that the gameplay is going to be very true-crime-ish, or like saints row, evidently.

 

I Also think the Soundtrack is going to suck.

[Typhus]

How exactly can you get "too old" for an 18 rated game? Or videogames in general?

[Mikeol1987]

How exactly can you get "too old" for an 18 rated game? Or videogames in general?

Video Gaming in general not too old to play them, but too old to be really enthusiastic about them

[rrool]

I agree in some ways, but it's hard to form a solid opinion. In much of pics, it looks pretty awful, but then the next set of pics looke awesome. The quality in the images is extremely random.

 

On the other hand, the game looks AMAZING in motion.

 

I thought that the hanging from the helicopter and truck bits from the second trailer was f*cking amazing graphically. I think the graphics in some shots are absolutely stunning, like this shot in the trailer for instance:

 

 

 

edit:

I'm ashamed

 

Better then San Andreas but it can be done way better.

 

The end.

comparetion, you fa**ot

 

san andreas in-game:

 

http://www.armchairempire.com/images/Revie...n-andreas-6.jpg

 

gta 4 in-game:

 

http://media.gtanet.com/images/3761_gta_iv.jpg

 

compare this you f*cker!

[Vercetti21]

GTA has never been about graphics. They are all about gameplay (the actually important thing), and that makes up for the lack in graphics. Besides, I think GTA graphics look great, so stfu.

[CthulhuFhtagn]

Guys, the graphics are great, and if they would suck nobody would care as the gameplay is much more important.

[CookPassBabtridge]

comparetion, you fa**ot

 

But you meant comparison. Now you look an even bigger fa**ot

[rrool]

http://media.gtanet.com/images/3769_gta_iv.jpg

and

http://media2.playstadium.dk/img/etnad/PS3...sinscreed/1.jpg

i really think that the world dont glow that much.

[CookPassBabtridge]

Video Gaming in general not too old to play them, but too old to be really enthusiastic about them

 

Yep, same here. Probably because Im near to 30. Which is the age when a lot of developers call it a day in the industry apparantly.

 

I still play em, but the hype machine gets old very quickly now, whatever the game is. Assassins Creed for example, felt like a kick in the nuts after paying £40 to find it was pretty boring to play.

 

Back on topic, I just dont feel too excited because Rockstar have avoided showing any gameplay at all, and there looks to be issues with dodgy animations etc. The visual graphics are looking great in some places, bit average in others. Its all mixed messages really

[rrool]

comparetion, you fa**ot

 

But you meant comparison. Now you look an even bigger fa**ot

lool you suck....

[CookPassBabtridge]

And you are probably about 12.

[Slamman]

I have long been advocating next gen pushing the edges of the envelope so we see the investment in the new consoles worth the money in the end...it all adds up to more then 'chump change'... But each player has his own idea about what they hope adds up to the perfect game they can enjoy endlessly.

 

I know I bring up Playstation 3 alot, I know I bring up Uncharted as well, but I have to try to relate to you folks why people are saying that game will be Game of the Year from what I've been reading the past week. Just last night I was pushing past where I had gotten stuck in the game, the Flooded City traversed on Jetski. Weren't we all very excited to see water and new abilities/items; swimming and Jetskis announced for GTA?

 

When you look at what appears in Uncharted in terms of swimming, water, wind as well, with the grass and trees reacting to one's movement... 5 discrete full range audio channels adding depth...

It's hard to feel that GTA can be a benchmark for all games when you see those results all combine. It's not perfect, nothing is...but for me it was an excellent step up to see my system at it's best [so far], I feel. Personally, GTA graphics don't suck, but there is something that is visibly lackluster about them and they could improve a bit over time while on the new platforms.

I think the new graphics take a familiar approach based on Aaron Garbut as graphics designer, but not to slight the guy, but they need to see how other companies are stepping up to the graphical challenge and wean away from graphics design from past platforms... I think they did great work in terms of last generation hardware, don't get me wrong!

 

Bill

[Ph3L1z14n0]

I think Rockstar's not showing us the full potential of the graphics, so they can surprise us when it's released

Sounds possible, specially since we got almost 4 months till release.

 

Everyone needs to take in account too that it's not gonna look as good on a computer screen, it's like YouTube videos of games, gears of war looks horrible everytime on youtube, but when i got the game i could clearly see how incredible the graphics were.

 

So if now those graphics are great for me, as they have gone up my expectations (thinking that IV would look like Dead Rising), then just imagine how f*cking awesome it's gonna look on a REGULAR TV.

[crux989]

GTA IV's quality in graphics is relative to what its being compared to. Compared to next gen photo-realism IV sucks. Compared to other GTA games its the best.

 

 

Also the game's graphical output is in relation to how much content is in the game.

 

I like to think of this as pizza.

 

You have a 40 inch pizza with cheese and pepperoni. Its larger than any pizza you've ever had, but other than that theres nothing special about it. Thats like Gran Turismo 5 prologue. Its the prettiest game, but its nothing more than a pretty GT 4.

 

I have a 20 inch pizza. Not as massive, but it has cheese, pepperoni, sausage, mushrooms, sliced peppers, and olives. Not to mention it comes with 2 liters of orange soda, bread sticks, and dip. As far as quality goes its 4 times better than your pizza despite its size. Thats like GTA IV.

 

 

[CookPassBabtridge]

I agree with it being relative. I think if the graphics were kept pretty consistant, it wouldnt matter too much if they werent really high detail. Just cant tell what standard it is at judging by the screens at the mo