Steve Crook Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Have you ever tried to do anything with that Beagle (2 engine plane) in Fort Carson (small town west of LV)? As soon as I got in it it started driving forwards. But its wings got jammed between the fence and the telegraph pole and I couldn't move it forwards or back. Can you do anything with it? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punknoodle Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 No Steve that beagle is only good for two things I think... 1. To take pictures of... 2. To blow up right when you drive by it when your doing "Paramedic" in Fort Carson... took me out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Crook Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 That's what I wondered, a trap for the unwary Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolly_jay Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I have never noticed the Beagle there before....so i thought i should take a look. Took me a little while to find it given its not on any vehicle map i have. But what a strange place for it to spawn..given there is no runway or anything.....has to be a glitch...hmmm...or a trap as you said. I tried pushing it out by myself...i was able to move it a few feet...then it just exploded and wasted me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Crook Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 I have never noticed the Beagle there before....so i thought i should take a look. Took me a little while to find it given its not on any vehicle map i have. But what a strange place for it to spawn..given there is no runway or anything.....has to be a glitch...hmmm...or a trap as you said. I tried pushing it out by myself...i was able to move it a few feet...then it just exploded and wasted me. I noticed it when I was doing a vigilante run around that part of the world. It does seem to catch fire and explode very easily. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingHigh Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I've only seen it once and tried to get in, it blew up the second I got in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimrain47 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Actually, a beagle spawns sticked at a house with the USA flag in the roof in the ¿southwest? of fort carson, when you get inside it , it explodes. I'll post a pic later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Phreak Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Depending on how it spawns in relation to obstacles, you can get it out in flying condition with a tow-truck. If you blow it up, or it does it by itself, you can make it respawn by entering/exiting the 24-7. If there's a loud explosion right after you exit the 24-7, enter again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night Fox Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I have noticed it sometimes before, though it only explodes if I try to pilot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guilty.by.association Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Where exactly is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolly_jay Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Easy to find. Just go to the ParkNSpray in Fort Carson and find the closest intesection. The house with the two american flags located on this intesection is where it appears. It may not always be there...so as ussual, you may have to circle the block a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoonchild Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 (edited) Where exactly is it? I'm not sure what jolly_jay means by "ParkNSpray", but there's a Pay-N-Spray close by. Edited December 8, 2007 by zmoonchild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad~Boy#17 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I have never noticed that It spawns there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagga rabbit Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I have never noticed that It spawns there. It's a beautiful sight..site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman_triads Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I'm not sure what jolly_jay means by "ParkNSpray", but there's a Pay-N-Spray close by. Nice video, NOW i know what everyone means. heheh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catseyes Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 (edited) Have you ever tried to do anything with that Beagle (2 engine plane) in Fort Carson (small town west of LV)? As soon as I got in it it started driving forwards. But its wings got jammed between the fence and the telegraph pole and I couldn't move it forwards or back. Can you do anything with it? Steve I don't think the Beagle's a trap Steve, it just takes some very careful shuffling to dislodge the plane. I managed to get it out, and it sometimes caught fire, but I used the health cheat a few times to renew it. Then I took it across some empty off-road space and flew it to Easter Bay Airport, San Fierro. Edited December 9, 2007 by Catseyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Crook Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 Have you ever tried to do anything with that Beagle (2 engine plane) in Fort Carson (small town west of LV)? As soon as I got in it it started driving forwards. But its wings got jammed between the fence and the telegraph pole and I couldn't move it forwards or back. Can you do anything with it? Steve I don't think the Beagle's a trap Steve, it just takes some very careful shuffling to dislodge the plane. I managed to get it out, and it sometimes caught fire, but I used the health cheat a few times to renew it. Then I took it across some empty off-road space and flew it to Easter Bay Airport, San Fierro. What does it fly like? It'd be quicker to walk to an airport and get a plane from there Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catseyes Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Have you ever tried to do anything with that Beagle (2 engine plane) in Fort Carson (small town west of LV)? As soon as I got in it it started driving forwards. But its wings got jammed between the fence and the telegraph pole and I couldn't move it forwards or back. Can you do anything with it? Steve I don't think the Beagle's a trap Steve, it just takes some very careful shuffling to dislodge the plane. I managed to get it out, and it sometimes caught fire, but I used the health cheat a few times to renew it. Then I took it across some empty off-road space and flew it to Easter Bay Airport, San Fierro. What does it fly like? It'd be quicker to walk to an airport and get a plane from there Steve Dislodging the plane *is* the thing you do with it. If you can get it out and fly it, you've done all you can with the Beagle. It's a good plane and flies nicely. I feel like a real pilot! But as soon as you no longer have it, a new Beagle will probably respawn at its home and it'll have to be untangled again if you want it. Whether it's worth it is another matter though. And you're absolutely right, it is quicker to get a plane from the airport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoonchild Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 It'd be quicker to walk to an airport and get a plane from there Steve Is spawns inside San Fierro Airport, you can take it for a test-flight from there if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catseyes Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Yep, it's there too. The big planes seem to be much easier to fly than the smaller ones, which are tricky to manoeuvre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Phreak Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Unlike the Beagle at SF airport, the ft. Carson Beagle is unlocked from the very beginning. Good luck getting it out of there with 4*'s It handles well and the speed is ~ that of the Dodo (bigger planes appear slower than they are, - the Nevada for instance is pretty fast for a prop). It's also one of the few planes that can take a passenger, - but it's big and clumsy on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolly_jay Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Good luck getting it out of there with 4*'s Yeah...that might be a good challenge. We can try that once somebody manages to get it out with no stars (and no cheats). How many passengers does it fit. Does it fit 8...(including captain CJ) I've never really taken much interest in a beagle before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Phreak Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 It will unfortunately only take 1 passenger + CJ. Even if it looks like there's doors and seats for 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jheath Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) GTA Phreak pointed out this plane to me in a different topic. I don't think it's possible to extract that plane without cheating, let alone with 4 *'s. I've tried it quite a bit. (I have a thing for obtaining planes early in the game, although sadly the Beagle is too big to save before you unlock LV). That Beagle gets critically damaged during the spawning process. Objects that spawn tend to drop a little; this is particularly noticable with boats, and planes like the Nevada. Due to its odd spawning location, the wing of the Beagle in question probably passes through the roof of the house it spawns beside. Sometimes the plane will blow up right after spawning... other times it will stay intact until you get in and start the engine. Even if you can push or tow the plane out of the driveway (and that in itself is a challenge), you'd have to find some way of healing it before you jump in. Good luck towing it all the way to your air strip garage without blowing it up. The plane has other odd properties too. It slides really easily within the space of the driveway, as if it had really low weight or no friction from the tires. My guess is that Rockstar put the plane there as a curiousity, good for a photograph and little else. --- EDIT --- It will unfortunately only take 1 passenger + CJ. Even if it looks like there's doors and seats for 6 On that note, would anyone know the biggest capacity air vehicle in the game? I suspect it's the Maverick, which can can seat three NPCs, but I haven't spent much time investigating. Here's my best guess for the air vehicles: Single-seat: - Hydra, Rustler, Stuntplane, Crop duster, Hunter, Hovercraft Two seats: - Dodo, Sea Sparrow, Sparrow, Beagle, Skimmer Multiple seats: - Maverick, Police Maverick Unknown: - AT-400, Andromeda, Nevada, Shamal, Cargobob, Leviathan, Raindance (probably all single-seaters) - News chopper (maybe two?) Edited December 12, 2007 by jheath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolly_jay Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 That Beagle gets critically damaged during the spawning process. Objects that spawn tend to drop a little; this is particularly noticable with boats, and planes like the Nevada. Due to its odd spawning location, the wing of the Beagle in question probably passes through the roof of the house it spawns beside. Sometimes the plane will blow up right after spawning... other times it will stay intact until you get in and start the engine. Even if you can push or tow the plane out of the driveway (and that in itself is a challenge), you'd have to find some way of healing it before you jump in. Good luck towing it all the way to your air strip garage without blowing it up. Very good explanation as to how the beagle gets damaged....and it makes alot of sense. I have always wondered why planes and boats spawn like they do. It's very noticeble when you are walking through an airport...the aircrafts spawn a few metres above ground and then drop down onto the tarmac. Does anybody have an explanation as to why they spawn like they do? I didn't beleive other vehicles spawn like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jheath Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I'm pretty sure this happens to a greater or lesser degree with all vehicles; it just happens to be more noticeable with objects that get spawned above the water (like boats and seasparrows), or irregularly shaped vehicles like the Nevada. The coders probably wanted to give themselves a margin for error so that objects won't get spawned embedded in the road surface. You can screw around with the spawning mechanism by driving through hilly areas (at least I'm guessing that's a good way to trigger the glitch, anyways). Occasionally you'll come across cars, especially police vehicles, partially embedded in the pavement at odd angles. In all of the cases I've come across, the front of the car was embedded, so I wasn't able to jack it to investigate further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapapote Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I've been thinking... If I remember well, there's a police bribe in Sf that is completely unreachable unless you use a savegame editor and changed its coordinates. If you added (or removed, I can't remember) one minus sign, the unreachable bribe appeared above the broken bridge near Palomino Creek, clearly where the programmers originally wanted it to be. Could this be something similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattDet Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I've been thinking... If I remember well, there's a police bribe in Sf that is completely unreachable unless you use a savegame editor and changed its coordinates. If you added (or removed, I can't remember) one minus sign, the unreachable bribe appeared above the broken bridge near Palomino Creek, clearly where the programmers originally wanted it to be. Could this be something similar? Oh and thank you very much for bumping a topic that was last replied to in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionSR Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I don't know, it seems to me like the appropriate topic for posing this question. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like this hypothesis is very likely. -38.70690, 1083.19995, 19.18720, -8.73, 511, -1, -1, 0, 0, 0, -1, -1 Swapping the sign of the x coordinate puts the Beagle just a little farther east where is would be blocked by a tree, and there is no clear area for takeoff in any direction. Swapping the sign of the Y coordinate puts the Beagle just north of the trucking asset at Flint Intersection, and several meters in the air. I think it is more likely that the incorrect vehicle ID was used. Perhaps a Mt Bike (510) was intended instead of the Beagle (511). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Phreak Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Personally I'm not surprised to find a beagle tied up in a driveway And btw. I have successfully flown it on a "In the Beginning" save, albeit briefly (4*'s, no cheats). It was so badly damaged that I crashed in the sea shortly after take-off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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