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Icarus

What if you were elected?

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illspirit

Well, since Typhus wants to play the assassination game, the first thing I'd do as POTUS would be to send DEVGRU or some "nonexistent" CIA team in to "regime change" him before he got too naziriffic. tounge.gif

 

Next, I'd get BATFU to arrest Bloomberg, then have most of the agency arrested and charged with civil rights violations. After that, the rest of my term would pretty much be spent vetoing everything that doesn't shrink the fed gov (which is pretty much everything..), and issuing executive orders to repeal powers grabbed by fiat during previous administrations.

 

Oh, and grant jallar citizenship so he could be my VP or AG.

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Well, since Typhus wants to play the assassination game, the first thing I'd do as POTUS would be to send DEVGRU or some "nonexistent" CIA team in to "regime change" him before he got too naziriffic. tounge.gif

 

Next, I'd get BATFU to arrest Bloomberg, then have most of the agency arrested and charged with civil rights violations. After that, the rest of my term would pretty much be spent vetoing everything that doesn't shrink the fed gov (which is pretty much everything..), and issuing executive orders to repeal powers grabbed by fiat during previous administrations.

 

Oh, and grant jallar citizenship so he could be my VP or AG.

VP is only for natural-born citizens, so it'd have to be AG.

 

I'd issue orders for all BATFE and DEA employees to wear billboard signs saying 'slap me until I apologise'.

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Shylock

~Legalize Pot.

~Pull all our troops out of countries where we don't belong anymore: Iraq, Korea etc. etc.

~Institutionalize health care.

~Flatten taxes.

~Shrink governmental agencies, boost military spending.

~Pull subsidies from companies that don't need them: Microsoft, Big Oil etc. etc.

~Reverse educational trends and provide more budget room for schools instead of less.

~Install zero-tolerance justice system for violent crimes, lower capital punishment requirements

~Provide proper funding for all government agencies left, to ensure proper management.

~Eliminate seclusion management of intelligence agencies, oversee everything myself.

~Provide more incentive to self employ and require stiff employment guidelines for all large companies ie Wal-Mart.

~Provide better public transit opportunities and raise emissions and consumption requirements.

 

 

And last but not least.

 

Re-Organize the BCS in College Football and do away with conference championships. (f*cking Big 12 is going to shoot themselves in the foot when Oklahoma plays Missouri.)

 

But that BCS thing isn't really a big national goal, more of a individualistic quest to take the power from rich programs and give to Hawaii. turn.gif

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Ph3L1z14n0
Hand out new powers to immagration officals to kill anyone entering the country illegally.

You have serious issues dude confused.gif

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Eddie280

If i was elected as Prime Minister i would

 

-Introduce 1 year Military Service, This would be to bolster the size of Britains Armed Froces.

-I would maintain the Monarchy and try and give them less of a ceremonious roll and more of a useful roll, without turning into an Absolute monarchy

- I would end the open border policy within the EU and i would establish an independant, meaningful border Patrol force.

- I would abolish inheritence tax

- I would abolish the two teir education system with Private and comprehensive school and i would return to the Grammar school system or a more American style public School system (based on the results of a referendum)

-I would begin a rehousing project for council Estates and rebuild these areas.

- I would Improve the NHS by establishing a matron system for each ward to ensure hygene standards are met.

-I would take climate change seriously and make Britain a world leader in Green inovation. I would spend Money on improving sustainable energy sources and i would extend the congestion charge to all major Cities. But i would Simplify it because the current system is too complicated.

-I would encourage Royalism within Schools but not ridiculously.

- I would withdraw form Iraq but remain in Afgahnistan, I would also increase pressure on rouge nations such as Iran. When the British Soldiers were captured i was appaled at how meek Britains response was.

 

umm thats what i can think of now, i might add to it though smile.gif

 

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Ph3L1z14n0
If i was elected as Prime Minister i would

 

-Introduce 1 year Military Service, This would be to bolster the size of Britains Armed Froces.

-I would maintain the Monarchy and try and give them less of a ceremonious roll and more of a useful roll, without turning into an Absolute monarchy

- I would end the open border policy within the EU and i would establish an independant, meaningful border Patrol force.

- I would abolish inheritence tax

- I would abolish the two teir education system with Private and comprehensive school and i would return to the Grammar school system or a more American style public School system (based on the results of a referendum)

-I would begin a rehousing project for council Estates and rebuild these areas.

- I would Improve the NHS by establishing a matron system for each ward to ensure hygene standards are met.

-I would take climate change seriously and make Britain a world leader in Green inovation. I would spend Money on improving sustainable energy sources and i would extend the congestion charge to all major Cities. But i would Simplify it because the current system is too complicated.

-I would encourage Royalism within Schools but not ridiculously.

- I would withdraw form Iraq but remain in Afgahnistan, I would also increase pressure on rouge nations such as Iran. When the British Soldiers were captured i was appaled at how meek Britains response was.

 

umm thats what i can think of now, i might add to it though smile.gif

This was probably the first non-totalitarian post in this topic confused.gif THANKS

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Eddie280

^^ cheers lol im all about the love biggrin.gif

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Ph3L1z14n0

^It depends on what country WOULD YOU BE ELECTED, but people here really have a mussolini thing going on confused.gif

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Rhoda

If I were elected, everyone would be naked and women signing autographs at conventions couldn't resist me.

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Iminicus

If I was elected to lead the world ( grandiose plans ) I would:

 

Disband any governmental departments below me that threaten my control of power.

Require all citizens to submit to physical, intellectual, psychological exams. Those that fail would then be taken care off ( Read: Boom HEADSHOT )

Enact 2 year compulsory military service for 18 year olds.

Disband any organization that tries to brainwash children ( Churches, scout groups )

Raise the educational standard in schools

Enact shorter workdays ( 9- 4 instead of 9- 5 ).

Remove all religious orientated holidays

Reformat the school year.

Sponsor research in Space Travel, cloning, Stem Cells, and other medical and scientific research.

Unite health insurance under one umbrella organization and make it free.

Force pharmaceutical companies to work together on cures.

Medication wouldn't cost an arm and your kidney.

Standardize currency

Standardize road codes, speed limits, and what side you drive on ( Left )

Get rid of metric in relation to cars.

Remove races barriers. ( You are not white or black. You are just an Earthling ).

Standardize electronics and electrical outlets and appliances.

Upgrade communication throughout the world ( Fibre Optics )

 

Plus what jallar said.

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Typhus

If you could really remove race barriers I would vote for you in a heartbeat.

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Ph3L1z14n0
Disband any governmental departments below me that threaten my control of power.

Great, so no pluralism that would threaten you're all mighty power bored.gif

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Svip

Okay, Typhus, I get your argument of a scapegoat. But why atheists? Why not terrorists? Like we are already doing? And how the hell would you turn the atheists into scapegoats? I mean, you have to convince people somehow, but even Christians and other religious people would say stop.

 

This is not the 18th century, my friend, you cannot turn a group of people into scapegoats that easily in such a highly developed country.

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derty

Sex*, MArijuana Legalized* and 9 or 10 small Nukes in the middle

of the pacific, videotaped so I can cash in on youtube front page

profit sharing. f*ck yea.

 

-derty

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Iminicus
Disband any governmental departments below me that threaten my control of power.

Great, so no pluralism that would threaten you're all mighty power bored.gif

If you are going to be elected you might as well make you power ultimate. Go read Svip's Guide for Dictators, Traitors, and Power Hungry Poles, I highly suggest it. Svip's unitarian style of writing and humor really makes taking over the world the only thing to do. Plus, he advocates everything... except using Windows based PCs for you security encryption.

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jelly

 

If I was elected to lead the world ( grandiose plans ) I would:

 

Disband any governmental departments below me that threaten my control of power.

Require all citizens to submit to physical, intellectual, psychological exams. Those that fail would then be taken care off ( Read: Boom HEADSHOT )

Enact 2 year compulsory military service for 18 year olds.

Disband any organization that tries to brainwash children ( Churches, scout groups )

Raise the educational standard in schools

Enact shorter workdays ( 9- 4 instead of 9- 5 ).

Remove all religious orientated holidays

Reformat the school year.

Sponsor research in Space Travel, cloning, Stem Cells, and other medical and scientific research.

Unite health insurance under one umbrella organization and make it free.

Force pharmaceutical companies to work together on cures.

Medication wouldn't cost an arm and your kidney.

Standardize currency

Standardize road codes, speed limits, and what side you drive on ( Left )

Get rid of metric in relation to cars.

Remove races barriers. ( You are not white or black. You are just an Earthling ).

Standardize electronics and electrical outlets and appliances.

Upgrade communication throughout the world ( Fibre Optics )

 

Plus what jallar said.

If you had actually read my post you'd have noticed that many of my measures would remove or restrict nearly all the things you want to implement.

 

I'm not sure how you're going to mesh together complete back-asswards fascism with constitutional government, but it'd be interesting to see what came out of that. whatsthat.gif

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Typhus
Okay, Typhus, I get your argument of a scapegoat. But why atheists? Why not terrorists? Like we are already doing? And how the hell would you turn the atheists into scapegoats? I mean, you have to convince people somehow, but even Christians and other religious people would say stop.

 

This is not the 18th century, my friend, you cannot turn a group of people into scapegoats that easily in such a highly developed country.

Ah, terrorists are a good scapegoat. But hatred of terrorists can lead to religious hatred and I really don't want that. The key to the scapegoat is that the criteria should be rather vague? I mean, who wants to kill and exclude their compatriots? Only a lunatic would murder his own countrymen! As long as we have balance there will be peace. But balance only comes from hatred. I would love a world where that wasn't so.

Maybe there is a better scapegoat. I mean, how can I want tolerance and then deny people the right to disbelieve? It's a total muddle.

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Svip
Okay, Typhus, I get your argument of a scapegoat.  But why atheists?  Why not terrorists?  Like we are already doing?  And how the hell would you turn the atheists into scapegoats?  I mean, you have to convince people somehow, but even Christians and other religious people would say stop.

 

This is not the 18th century, my friend, you cannot turn a group of people into scapegoats that easily in such a highly developed country.

Ah, terrorists are a good scapegoat. But hatred of terrorists can lead to religious hatred and I really don't want that. The key to the scapegoat is that the criteria should be rather vague? I mean, who wants to kill and exclude their compatriots? Only a lunatic would murder his own countrymen! As long as we have balance there will be peace. But balance only comes from hatred. I would love a world where that wasn't so.

Maybe there is a better scapegoat. I mean, how can I want tolerance and then deny people the right to disbelieve? It's a total muddle.

Why do you want balance? Isn't that what makes life boring and uninteresting?

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Typhus

Not boring. Secure. At the end of the day all I want is for my nation to be safe.

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Svip
Not boring. Secure. At the end of the day all I want is for my nation to be safe.

Pish, you are never going to be elected. People want corrupt politicians!

 

Oh, Putin, my hero.

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Ph3L1z14n0
People want corrupt politicians!

these days it sounds like the only answer bored.gif

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Sixdust

If I were president, there would be alot of things I would want to change.

 

First, end a majority of Bureaucracy in the USA, it is a waste of taxpayer money for certain departments such as the department of Energy or the department of education.

 

Secondly, immediately withdraw from all countries, bringing home all troops and leaving them for national defense. Also, reducing our spending by billions and sparing many lives and ending foreign hatred toward us. We can be isolationist when it comes to foreign issues that involve violence.

 

Thirdly, end the income tax, possibly reduce it massively and make it a billing system for specific services such as schooling etc., or make it a fixed percentage for all incomes. Also phase out social security. Social security is just another socialist program for people too stupid to setup retirement funds. It does have its benefits, but it seems like put little money in, and then get alot of money out of it. I don't want to work on the books and be forced to pay into something that I feel is going to fail.

 

Fourthly, health care, I propose that we do make a government health care system, or a free market system. I would have to debate that with myself. The ability to get cheap, good health care is something I want. If there was a fixed amount to pay per year or treatment, for government controlled, as well as a free market system, the free market would have to work to give better results for less money, giving people more choices. Also, a reform of that Bureaucracy called the FDA. Not every citizen can be a scientist, doctor, or guinea pig to test their snake oil or meat with rat poop in it.

 

Fifth, education can be great with small amounts of spending as well. I propose the current system right now in terms of public and private, but with a voucher system, allowing parents choice as to where their kids go to learn. However, the private schools should not be for recruitment for religious purposes (seeding young minds to love god) Private schools need to give better services for the same amount of money because if they don't, they close. Also, I am for using and teaching the newest technology in schools. The arts, politics, technology, sciences, math and literature should all be taught in a way where those who want to learn get all the opportunities to do better, while the failures are phased out. It does seem harsh, but school shouldn't be a government babysitter for kids, especially those who cut class alot. If you want to learn, come to class, be prepared, and pay attention, discuss topics in class and don't disrupt your class with your retarded ways such as text messaging in class or going to the bathroom so you can hang out with friends around the school. If you want to do good, all the doors of opportunity will be open to you, if you don't good luck, when you comprehend what a retard you are, you will have to work minimum wage to earn enough cash to attend a private school. We also can do many things with technology to reduce spending on other things. We can use laptops or even desktops to read textbooks, rather than having hard copies, we can put solar panels on school roofs and use areas of empty space for wind power. Sports and physical activity should not be a requirement. If a kid prefers to read rather than throw a ball, it is his freedom of choice as to what he wants to do. School issued laptops would reduce the amount of paper needed and wasted in a school environment. Also, turning off the lights at night in schools, along with unnecessary items, would massively reduce energy consumption. Also, I highly support a ban on homework. In alot of European countries, homework is either gone completely or is much less than our amounts, and those countries have better scores and curriculum's. I have alot more beef with education, but lets move on.

 

The Environment, I love nature. I do not like the idea of dumping of oil into oceans or whatever else. Also, there needs to be a massive reduction in use of coal and oil, and more use of eco friendly technologies such as wind and solar power. Also, we can reduce paper use by relying on technology or e paper solutions. I would force the car companies to work harder at making environment friendly vehicles and I would also like to work on more public transportation as well as private transportation, make it worth it for commuters and even businesses to use public services and even free market services rather than their own transportation. If we had shipping centers in NYC where we can send packages using some sort of fast beltway or tube system, that would be great and it would reduce traffic alot and use of fossil fuels. Also, making things carbon neutral would be cool, for like corporations and events, paying a certain fee to make up for using gasoline or coal or anything else that harms the environment. I want private companies to pay for their misuse of the environment.

 

Liberty and freedom, I love it. People should be allowed to put what they want in their bodies, though I want a reformed FDA, if people still want to buy snake oil, let them, its their choice. This also applies to drugs of the illegal kind. I think we should end the war on drugs, and end the ban on making your own alcohol. We should tax sales of things like marijuana or anything else being used recreationally. Also, we would reduce the strain on prison systems and put an end to a majority of current criminal organizations. It would be free market, taxed and legal, thus forcing competition of the legal kind, not the other kind which results in shootings over corners to sell drugs. A majority of gangs rely on drug sales to keep themselves going. Also, prostitution would become legal, except for minors, because I argue that most children cannot make rational thoughts about their bodies because they do not understand how everything works. People do with their bodies as they please. I believe that we should allow all citizens with a violent crime free background, the right to bear arms, since it is our right as law abiding citizens to protect ourselves from those with illegally obtained weapons who choose to enter our properties. It should be an even playing field, citizens shouldn't have to rely on police to come and shot a guy in their house that is an intruder. Also, in political unrest, the right to rebel should be that of the people. I support abolishing the FCC, I support an end to "hate crimes", a crime is a crime, whether or not you dislike that person for a certain personal reason.I highly believe that their should be no slavery so I think, rather than separating church & state, we should abolish religion altogether. That way there is no religious hate, no mind slavery of people, no people that receive special attention and no ridiculous moral agendas to be pushed. We have a right to organize freely, however, it should not be over worship of a certain item. People can read religious material, no problem, but when it comes to recruitment, I say no. So phase out religion out of peoples minds, force people to learn how the world works, there would be no more excuses to say that god did it, rather, this and this scientific thing did it. I am against a national ID card, chipping citizens, regulating the internet, wiretapping without a warrant, and keeping a database of people against the government. A majority of laws should be at the local level, more states rights, if you are not a majority in a certain area, you move to where your ideology is better represented because people share similar thoughts. I hate the idea of censoring the press to a certain extent. I think that the press should only use facts, using as little opinion as possible, with opinions being tagged editorial or opinion so people know they are getting a mix of the latter, not just fact.

 

Our money and trading, we need to out the central banking monopoly we have, and we need to back it with a precious something, such as gold, silver platinum, or whatever else is precious. We should end all embargoes, and trade freely with other countries. Since taxes will be lower for businesses, it will allow them to better pay their workers, and since it will be known that employers have more $$$$, they will be better able to compete in foreign markets, and since our education system will be better, companies will seek our special skills to do their work. Also, with better education in more areas, we would be able to become a self sufficient country, relying less on foreign products, and more on our own. However, our exports would be high due to quality and pricing.

 

Immigration, we need to better watch our borders, which will be possible since we will have all our soldiers at home, some taking positions in border patrol, using technology to differentiate animals and humans at borders so there is no environmental impact would be a start towards building a high tech fence. But, since there would be no income tax, (if there were, it would be smaller and payment would be required) immigrants could become members of our society and be able to use our public services because they have to pay sales tax. The process should be easier to become a citizen.

 

Presidential election, we need to change the system to full democracy, not republic. Also, a reduction in executive powers and a better way to impeach.

 

Also, no death penalty, because like the famous quote says : "I would rather let 10 guilty men go, than 1 innocent man sit in jail". Innocent until proven guilty also, but, sometimes the wrong verdict is reached. If an innocent man sits in jail, so be it, he should receive money and aid from the government if he is wronged, but if he is put to death before the new evidence is discovered, there is no way to change that.

 

I am definitely off, on some of these arguments, but I have a massive headache and I am not going back to make edits for a while, to fortify my arguments and to change anything that is misspelled or grammatically wrong.

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Eddie280

^^ essay

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Typhus

Okay Sixdust, you like equality but want to abolish religion? You know how contradictory that is right?

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Okay Sixdust, you like equality but want to abolish religion? You know how contradictory that is right?

Well if you had read my post, I said that the reason I believe religion should be one of the exceptions is because I oppose slavery. I do not want my people to be scared, I do not want them taking their ideology from a fiction story book that contradicts itself hundreds of times and is scientifically inaccurate on many accounts. Mind slavery is evil, and getting rid of religion is one way to get people to feel more like brothers, rather than religious enemies and extremists. If any of the mainstream media broadcast films as to why so and so is fake, alot of people would change their minds quickly. You are born atheist. You are born without fear towards something that is in the "heavens". We are a modern people and there is no need for these rituals that involve pretending to eat a dead mans flesh, and stories of a zombie savior. Just imagine, a world where Israel and the middle east got along? What if the crusades or the holocaust had never happened, and what would the middle east be like without religion? Religion divides brothers, it divides humans, it causes conflict among friends if one has "sinned" or is of another religion, it is not a way for the human race to progress. I never said I wanted equality either, as Ron Paul says:

 

Government as an institution is particularly ill-suited to combat bigotry. Bigotry at its essence is a problem of the heart, and we cannot change people's hearts by passing more laws and regulations.

 

It is the federal government that most divides us by race, class, religion, and gender. Through its taxes, restrictive regulations, corporate subsidies, racial set-asides, and welfare programs, government plays far too large a role in determining who succeeds and who fails. Government "benevolence" crowds out genuine goodwill by institutionalizing group thinking, thus making each group suspicious that others are receiving more of the government loot. This leads to resentment and hostility among us.

 

Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism.

 

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence - not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.

 

In a free society, every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.

 

We out the group mentallity, bring in the individualism, and don't have to worry about religion anymore, or skin color and such. But, I am against laws for hate crimes and punishments for commiting them, since like I said before, a crime is a crime, whether or not you hate the person because of the way they are.

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Typhus

Listen. Israel and the Middle East will never get along. There is only one course we must take. And that it to burn Jerusalem and every holy site right to the ground. It drives men mad. Why, the Dome of the Rock was having building work done to it and there were small riots! That place is evil. Organised religion and dogmatism are evil. But surely you do not oppose faith? And those who live by the example of Jesus?

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Listen. Israel and the Middle East will never get along. There is only one course we must take. And that it to burn Jerusalem and every holy site right to the ground. It drives men mad. Why, the Dome of the Rock was having building work done to it and there were small riots! That place is evil. Organised religion and dogmatism are evil. But surely you do not oppose faith? And those who live by the example of Jesus?

Yes I do oppose Jesus, since the bible is full of sh*t as are its followers.

 

http://russellsteapot.com/images/comics/2007/Image092.jpg

 

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Typhus

So you don't want people to have the one freedom that matters? The freedom of faith? Everybody needs faith in something. Even if it is faith in the good nature of humanity. How can you try and take that away? Do you believe in scapegoating too?

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All-Blacks

Typhus, I think Sixdust is meaning the abolishment of practicing a faith, opposed to abolishing faith altogether. I for one agree with his notion.

 

The problem with religion is that there is no freedom involved for the follower. Not only is the individual's own faith overpowered by the religion, their life and actions taken is based upon it (something they never would of practiced if never introduced into it to begin with. How could that be considered 'their' faith?). What makes it worse is that many are born into their parent's selected religion, no choice (destroying the possible surfacing of their personal faith) and harder to escape* later on.

 

* - escape a brainwashing tool, yes.

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Get rid of brainwashing. Good idea. We must encourage children to make their own choices. I mean, let me ask you this: Can we expect our children to be good members of society when we cannot even trust them with their own souls? We should give them some credit and let them decide what faith - or lack of faith - is appealing to them. But by no means should we ban religion. Why would you ban the words of a man who told us to treat one another with respect, compassion and love? Those words are like manna from Heaven. And why would you remove the teachings of the Buddha? His fight against materialism is something we can all respect. I just don't see why people are against these men. What engendered such spite? Such bloodlust? What made you this way? Were you born into hate or did hatred latch onto you throughout your life?

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