Adding (not replacing) cars to GTA SA

[afdzal]

dude when i spawn the car tht i added,the game was stuck.

help me.

[silvermanblue]

dude when i spawn the car tht i added,the game was stuck.

help me.

Unfortunately until Alex can post a new handling adder, this Tutorial is dead. If someone ANYONE has it contact me via PM, this is my baby and I want it to work for you guys.

 

Sorry for the neglect so bear with me, I have been having internet issues as of late.

[cj360]

-NOTHING-

Edited February 20, 2009 by cj360

[Sampath]

plz help i followed the tutorial(first way)

the game loads perfectly

after loading the word dohertycome we just see cj and the game crashes back to desktop before anything can happen

what shall i do

[wojtx]

I have a question about this new handling adder. If i write the handling like that will it work? Furthermore where should be the handling places in the default car handling file? Can it be last in line?

[wojtx]

I have done it, and without handling_names! I added a car and the game does not crash. It has damage, radio sound, handling, with one exception, The wheels are white and so is the floor of the interior. Anyone knows how to fix it??

[Maciel]

i need help, really i need help, when i start gta sa it doesnt even start loading and the game crashes without any failure message, please i need help!!!

it says something about DEFAULT.IDE.

 

it says:

 

GTA:SA Crashed, Debug Info Follows:

 

 

 

GTA Info:

 

 

 

Version: EU 1.0

 

Last File Loaded: DATA\DEFAULT.IDE

 

Last Library Loaded:

 

Error: Unknown

 

 

 

Assembly Info:

 

 

 

Exception At Address: 0x004C672A

 

Exception Code: 0xc0000005 (EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION)

 

 

 

Registers:

 

EAX: 0x00000000 EBX: 0x008E2C64

 

ECX: 0x00B1E15C EDX: 0x00480000

 

ESI: 0x00B1E15C EDI: 0x00000004

 

EBP: 0xFFFFFFFF ESP: 0x0023FBE8

 

AND WHERE IS handlingnames.ini

Edited December 23, 2008 by Maciel

[BLlTZ]

i need help, really i need help, when i start gta sa it doesnt even start loading and the game crashes without any failure message, please i need help!!!

it says something about DEFAULT.IDE.

 

it says:

 

GTA:SA Crashed, Debug Info Follows:

 

 

 

GTA Info:

 

 

 

Version: EU 1.0

 

Last File Loaded: DATA\DEFAULT.IDE

 

Last Library Loaded:

 

Error: Unknown

 

 

 

Assembly Info:

 

 

 

Exception At Address: 0x004C672A

 

Exception Code: 0xc0000005 (EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION)

 

 

 

Registers:

 

EAX: 0x00000000 EBX: 0x008E2C64

 

ECX: 0x00B1E15C EDX: 0x00480000

 

ESI: 0x00B1E15C EDI: 0x00000004

 

EBP: 0xFFFFFFFF ESP: 0x0023FBE8

 

AND WHERE IS handlingnames.ini

Yeah... I have created one, because to me too I don't find it in arhive anymore...

[gtamodcrazy]

hey yea i noticed in gta united by looking at my ggmm program that the diablos car was added..a added car... i took the custom kitt that tobie made from modd.com and renamed the files to diablos.dff and diablos .txd and it turned the added car into the flamming knight rider but it had a white bottom so i just went into carcols and made both colors black and it fixed it...but no engine sound or radio..that sucks...i have found if you changed the name to the car you are replacing it usually excepts it if you use the ggmm program..because i took a 2012 tranam protype and replaced one of the kitts in the knight rider mod by changing the name to the default name through ggmm..and the car was still industrutable and had turbo boost...well i tryed on my own with gta united by adding a 1969 boss 302 mustang named BOSS 302..and i used the handling and all the rest of the data and the car visually showed up in the ggmm program but it crashed my game so i had to uninstall it..oh well ill read your tuturial hopefully ill get it right....by the way most of your links for the tools are 404 errors.......later

[gtamodcrazy]

ok whare do i find sa limis config to open it? wheres it located?ive done every thing you said i cant find it no where please help

[wush]

hey guis

 

we can add new cars in the gta UNITED, it just mod their "salimits" ! later put the lines in the handling and veichles e carscols

 

thats all!

 

anyway... nobody here have the handlingnames.ini ??? please upload =P in the san andreas is much more intresting

 

sorry for the bad english =s

Edited February 3, 2009 by wush

[macintosh72]

Hi,

 

I downloaded all the files suggested in the tutorial, except the handlingnames file is not there. I have redownloaded but still is not there. Any suggestions?

[at72]

Yep - the 'handlingnames file' is the handling.cfg located in your data-folder.

 

Got some question as well and didn't find any answers here nor anywhere:

Is it possible to park extra-cars via CLEO? Somewhere I read that it is, however I followed the description and it didn't work out - my car is not there. I tried it with CLEO and Mission Builder, by giving IDs and names - the car doesn't appear. I'm able to position regular cars, so I'm actually doin' it right somehow.

Any ideas? Thanks!

[macintosh72]

thanks for the reply 'at72'. It seems at one time there was a file called handling_names.ini but alexander removed it from the last version of handling adder.

 

I managed to add a car without using that file. I upped the vehicle model limit by 1 in salimits.ini, then added 612 Id and info to vehicle.ide, handling.cfg, carmods.dat, carcols.dat, and added in the car name to cargrp.dat. I added the .dff and .txd to gta3.img, and also added a value to american.gxt text document...

 

The vehicle does spawn in game, however, it is half in the floor and half out. When I try to jack the car, I cannot even open the door. Its weird. The wheels are above ground, but the vehicle and driver are mostly inside the ground. It doesn't crash the game, it's just unusable. If I can just figure out how to get the model to work properly, then I can add some more cars. Any suggestions anyone?

 

As far as the sound, I find audioeditorultimate just crashes my game completly, I dont even need to change any info in it, just having it it my main directory crahses the game, so I use the older [sA]vehicleaudioeditor.exe, which seems to work, although I cannot add extra sounds in sound bank folders of 138+ as that just enables all sounds in game to get mixed up completly.

 

I have files d3d9.dll, saloader.ini, vorbisfile.dll and vorbishooked.dll in my main directory (if that info helps).

 

[at72]

Hi,

 

I'll describe the way I add my extra-cars, maybe this will help you. At this moment I got 25 inside - cars and motorbike - and they all work fine.

 

What I found out is that 'HandlingAdder' seems to be useless because it's coming along with bugs. Although my game is working properly when I don't add any new handling lines I put the one provided with the addon in (cars above the 'bike'-entry, motorbikes above 'predator') hoping there once will be some bug-fix for the HandlingAdder. My addon-cars use handling-files of other existing, more or less similary cars. So the entry in vehicles.ide looks like that f.e.:

265, addon18, addon18, car, FORTUNE, ADDON18, null, normal, 10, 0, 0, -1, 0.72, 0.74, 0

If you find a fitting handling, that shall do it.

 

I also use the 'MoreVehicles.asi' which claims to make it possible to have 1000 vehicles ingame. If you use that one, you don't have to change anything in salimits.ini.

 

With sound-tools I also faced the same problems - so I forgot about it. I use the sounds of existing cars. You need: 'VehicleAudioData.ini' and 'VehicleAudioLoader.asi'. For me that's enough realism.

 

Ah - and 'UpDownLigts.ini' is a nice one as well, so other cars can have headlights like the zr350.

 

Everything is coming from Alexander's homepage, and those proggies don't have any bugs.

 

Greets,

Andrej

Edited February 16, 2009 by at72

[msq5]

ok, i've done everything, but my vehicle won't show up in game, altough i have added it to cargrp.dat. Any idea?

[at72]

Well, sometimes they don't show up immediately. Did you try to spawn it? Use the Vehicle Spawn Tool to do so, it provides a hotkeys-file where you have to fill in the car's ID. Start the game, then the spawner, hit <ctrl> + <key> and it should be there. If not, you did something wrong

[2pacproducer2]

Hey guys,

I cant understand the 3rd step.

 

 

3. Open up the handling names file and add you're new vehicles name in capitols, remember the name and what vehicle name above it is exactly. Also remember to stay in the group of vehicles you vehicle belongs in planes, boats etc. Save and close.

 

What is the handling names file ? First I thought that it is handling.cfg , but you need to change handling cfg in other steps.

 

Any help with the 3rd step ?

[macintosh72]

 

  Hey guys,

I cant understand the 3rd step.

What is the handling names file ? First I thought that it is handling.cfg , but you need to change handling cfg in other steps.

 

Handling names file appears to have been a file that was once available from Alexandra Blade. Having scanned through the postings in this tuturial it appears the file is no longer available. The tutorial is old and has not been updated. The techniques for adding cars seem to work for some people and not for others. At72 seems to have had some luck. For me, my cars appear half in the ground and half out of the ground, therefore unaccessable.

 

So forget step 3, it no longer exists.

 

 

[macintosh72]

 

I'll describe the way I add my extra-cars, maybe this will help you. At this moment I got 25 inside - cars and motorbike - and they all work fine.

 

What I found out is that 'HandlingAdder' seems to be useless because it's coming along with bugs. Although my game is working properly when I don't add any new handling lines I put the one provided with the addon in (cars above the 'bike'-entry, motorbikes above 'predator') hoping there once will be some bug-fix for the HandlingAdder. My addon-cars use handling-files of other existing, more or less similary cars. So the entry in vehicles.ide looks like that f.e.:

265, addon18, addon18, car, FORTUNE, ADDON18, null, normal, 10, 0, 0, -1, 0.72, 0.74, 0

 

Hey At72,

 

Thanks for the description! Although I did not truly understand it all.

 

I agree, handling adder does not work for me either.

 

I did not understand when you say:

 

Although my game is working properly when I don't add any new handling lines I put the one provided with the addon in

What do you mean by "the one provided with the addon? What is addon?

 

I can understand you use the handling information of other existing, more or less similar cars, this was also my inmtention, to just copy and paste to vehicles.ide. But I do not understand what addon is? Do you mean you just add extra cars to vehicles.ide or is addon another file you also use? PLeasde can you clarify as it would be a big help.

 

For me, 'VehicleAudioData.ini' and 'VehicleAudioLoader.asi'. do not work at all. Just having them in my GTA base directory messes up all vehicles sounds in my game, even if I do not make any changes at all to the files. Very strange. I would love to know why these files seem to work for some people and not others.

I am using US version 1.0 exe

 

thanks!

 

 

[msq5]

Hey,

I've converted the angel from Vice City, but when I spawn it, it just goes through the ground.

The I tried spawning it, while photographing. Then it just stayed in the air. But it looks weird:

 

When I press Enter my game crashes:

 

GTA:SA Crashed, Debug Info Follows:GTA Info:Version: US 1.0Last File Loaded: AUDIO\STREAMS\AMBIENCELast Library Loaded: user32.dllError: UnknownAssembly Info:Exception At Address: 0x006E3DA8Exception Code: 0xc0000005 (EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION)Registers:EAX: 0x073E0023	EBX: 0x0000000AECX: 0x0748255C	EDX: 0x00000000ESI: 0x0006001D	EDI: 0x00C20D98EBP: 0x00000000	ESP: 0x0022FC14

 

 

Sometimes it is an other audio error.

 

I've also converted the ambulance from gta3.

 

It spawns properly, but when I enter, cj goes through the door instead of opening it.

It also won't drive, and the siren isnt working

 

 

 

 

[at72]

@macintosh72

 

Hi. Addon simply is the extra-car I want to put in. I use the handling-file it comes with and put it inside the handling.cfg where it remains ... useless. No other files are needed.

The audio proggie I use is called 'VehicleAudioEditorUltimate'. Maybe you use an older version? If you got asi-Loader's files installed and play with the us-exe, I don't have a clue of what messes up your game, mate. Statements like 'for me it works' are not very useful neither sufficient, I know - that is also what I got to hear when asking:

 

Somebody any idea how to place extra-cars via CLEO? It doesn't work for me ...

 

Some people are able to place them, at least they're telling so, but for me they don't show up. Standard-ID cars do.

 

What I want to say is, that there is no 'luck' or whatsoever in the 0-1-world, only a lack of information.

 

@msq5

 

Looks for me like corrupted handling.

 

Greets,

Andrej

[macintosh72]

at72 Andrej

 

Hey thanks for explaining that. That makes sense. I will try some experiments with using different handling lines to see if that will solve the problem of the car half in the ground. It looks like 'msq5' has the same problem from the photos he has provided.

 

I have used VehicleAudioEditorUltimate, but as I said, it does not work and corrupts all my engine sounds, which is a mystery. The only version that seems to work is the older GUI version of vehicleaudioeditor.exe, however it only works sometimes . I agree that it is only a matter of finding the right information. This post seems quite dead at the moment apart from our communications, so in time if some others join the discussion, or if silvermanblue returns, maybe a more detailed informative solution will appear.

 

If I figure something out I will post a detailed description.

 

cheers mate

Mac

 

 

[2pacproducer2]

   Hey guys,

I cant understand the 3rd step.

What is the handling names file ? First I thought that it is handling.cfg , but you need to change handling cfg in other steps.

 

Handling names file appears to have been a file that was once available from Alexandra Blade. Having scanned through the postings in this tuturial it appears the file is no longer available. The tutorial is old and has not been updated. The techniques for adding cars seem to work for some people and not for others. At72 seems to have had some luck. For me, my cars appear half in the ground and half out of the ground, therefore unaccessable.

 

So forget step 3, it no longer exists.

Yeah, I added my car, it looks good, but it has no sound, and has no name. I done everything well with gxt editor and sound editor , but its still the problem because of that 3 step.

[at72]

With Sound Editor? You have to change the VehicleAudioData.ini, also don't forget to extend the ID-range there. Only type in first and last ID# and leave 'pairs' to '1'.

 

Which gxt-editor do you use? I had a prob with a-gxt 1.0, it didn't save the changes anymore after a certain time. Strange bug. Now I use 'SA GXT Editor'. Or maybe you did sth wrong in vehicles.ide. Please post the line.

 

Bye

[Pedro84]

Hello dudes!

 

I have one big question. Is it possible to add new cars but not replacing existing? I read all tutorial and I really don't know if it's possible for now.

 

Let me know please.

 

Greetings,

Pedro84

[at72]

No, it is not. You'll even not find any thread nor a tutorial about it here.

Nevertheless, one for you!

 

(sorry, but couldn't resist)

[Pedro84]

@at72, I found tutorial. But I didn't try it cause I don't wanna crash my game I'm asking if the tut is working, I even don't have handlingnames.ini file. Would it be working without that file?

[at72]

Well, if you would have followed this thread a bit, you should know ...

It is already said that 'handlingnames.ini' is not needed. That's the reason why Alexander removed it from his page. There's no possibility to add NEW handlings without facing bugs as it appears. However, you can use EXISTING ones. And then - YES: You can add more cars. Everything is described and easy to understand (even I did) - so: Take some time and try it out! If you make backups, you can`t spoil your game.

[2pacproducer2]

Like what that sound line should look like when I add a 1 car.

 

The ID line looks like this :

 

[iDs]

Number_of_pairs=1

FromID_1=400

ToID_1=616

 

And I added this to the end

 

[612]

CarType=10

EngineOnSound=-1

EngineOffSound=-1

Unknown4=0

Unknown5=0,699999988079071

Unknown6=1

HornTon=255

HornHigh=1

DoorSound=255

RadioNum=13

RadioType=255

Unknown12=255

Unknown13=0

Unknown14=0

Unknown15=0

Unknown16=0

 

 

And by the way, I added just a one car.

 

All the things works, the car looks fine, but when I drive it, or other peds driving, there is no car sounds.