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Hello,

 

A week ago while I was on holidays (Australia, NSW to QLD) I got GTA:SA from EB Games (On PC).

I tested out the game while I was up there on a friends laptop and it worked fine, however, when I got home I tried it and

it wouldn't read the disc, autorun didn't come up so I went to My Computer to run it from the Disc Drive but it looked like this:

 

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So I went searching around the net for answer, and a friend from a forum site I'm apart of told me he has had this problem before (With GTA:SA, the same game) he reckons its the CD Driver.

 

So, do you guys/gals think he is right? and if so how would I go about fixing it?

 

(Errmm, anyone thinking its not your problem cos' it coming from my computer not the game... Well its only with GTA:SA... so confused.gif )

 

Thanks A lot!

 

~Prey

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Yep, there are no scratches on the disc.

This is the only CD out of 100s that doesn't work (In this way)

 

I went 'tru all this... I believe the problem is with the "DVD/CD Driver" but I don't under stand how to update/fix it confused.gif

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cold fusion 33

Are you sure it is a DVD capable drive? If not the game cannot be played.

Ps- I may be wrong as I am playing on version 2 which is on DVD, Version 1 may be on CD.

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eilabouni_rudy

i bought battlefield 2:deluxe edition from israel (i'm from israel) and when i went to my house i tried it and the same problem,i was angry because i love BF so i was reading the writing on the disc box from the up side i founded this:

PC DVD

ROM

ONLY DVD COMPATABLE.

then i bought a DVD drive and it worked so try doing that

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Ahh, ok guys...

Thanks for the help smile.gif

 

Sorry to be noobie, but will I need to take my computer into a computer shop?

or 'em I able to buy a USB DVD Drive?

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eilabouni_rudy

 

Sorry to be noobie, but will I need to take my computer into a computer shop?

or 'em I able to buy a USB DVD Drive?

yes you should change all the CD drive to a DVD one but i'm not sure may be you have a DVD Drive this word DVD if it was wroted on the Drive that means that your drive is DVD drive

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I went 'tru all this... I believe the problem is with the "DVD/CD Driver" but I don't under stand how to update/fix it  confused.gif

If you know the make and model of your optical drive, please post it here. You should find them on the drive's manual. The we could link you to updates.

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Go into Device Manager if you threw away your DVD-ROM's packagings, or if you bought an OEM machine.

 

You could open the computer case too.

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Ok guys, thanks for the help.... Finally getting some where biggrin.gif

 

 

yes you should change all the CD drive to a DVD one but i'm not sure may be you have a DVD Drive this word DVD if it was wroted on the Drive that means that your drive is DVD drive

 

Ok, so when I eject/open the disc drive on the front it has "DVD *some DVD Disc Simbel* R/RW", "RW DVD+ReWritable", COMPACT disc ReWritable Ultra-Speed"

 

 

If you know the make and model of your optical drive, please post it here. You should find them on the drive's manual. The we could link you to updates.

 

 

  Go into Device Manager if you threw away your DVD-ROM's packagings, or if you bought an OEM machine.

 

You could open the computer case too.

 

Yes, I have no idea what it means but it is a OEM suicidal.gif

 

When I got to Device Manager, I wasn't 100% sure what to be looking at so here is a pic...

 

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Hopefully this is what you wanted, if not I'll take off the case

 

Thanks

 

~ Prey

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Who manufactured your computer? What system brand and model is it? You could open up the computer case or look up on the OEM manufacturer's website.

 

Right-click "CD-ROM Drive" and click Uninstall. Reboot computer and see if the driver comes up with a proper name.

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My PC was experiencing similar problems some time back. Driver updates and such didn't fix it - what did was formatting my hard drive. It might be an extreme step, but I'd recommend it.

 

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Hiya,

 

Haven't posted here for awhile, as I believe the site was down... or I just couldn't get to it...

 

Anywho, IDK if anyone will reply seeing how this is over on page 2.

But, here is an update on the problem. (learn't a lot since making this...)

 

make/model: Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-109

 

Ive tried:

 

Unintalling and reinstalling it,

Reformatting (This is what you meant, crazyanurag?),

 

Hmmm... thats it on info.

 

Thanks,

~ Prey

 

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My best advice would be a repeat of what was mentioned above,

uninstall your CD/DVD drive from the device manager (download

drivers proper for your above-mentioned brand and make).

 

Now, if this does not remedy the cause, check to be sure you

have the very latest Windows Installer 3.1 as well as check for

bios updates for your DVD drive. Hope this helps, Prey.

 

-derty

LUCK FOR A BUCK!!!!! f*ck Yea!

 

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Thank you derty, very good advice smile.gif

 

 

uninstall your CD/DVD drive from the device manager

Yes, I've tried this atleast 5 times (Before and after reformatting)

 

 

 

 

download

drivers proper for your above-mentioned brand and make)

 

Here is where I had some trouble, you see I look for the drivers however I was only able to find a massive list of firmware... And as far as I know, I don't want this confused.gif

 

If anyone is willing to find me a driver update for a Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-109 I would appreciate so much... well... So much that there isn't a word to describe it biggrin.gif

 

lets just say...

 

After shooting like that, if you asked me to be your wife... I'd say yes!

 

 

 

And sorry to be noobie suicidal.gif again bbutt... rolleyes.gif

 

 

you

have the very latest Windows Installer 3.1 as well as check for

bios updates for your DVD drive.

 

How to I find out? sad.gif

an if it isn't how do I update. (This quest is for both Windows Installer and the bios)

 

Also, not sure if I've said it already but...

 

None of my DVD Drive games work (Not jut GTA:SA), and... I found this to be weird, but, I can still burn DVD movies viddy_pirate.gif and watch DVD movies confused.gifconfused.gif

 

Thanks! I'll be so friggin happy if we get it working lol.gif

 

 

P.S. Sorry for over doing the smilies... There just so awesome ^^

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oops, not bios, but firmware. I meant firmware. Sorry, m8, was late :x

 

I'm going on the hunt for your drivers as well, wish me luck!

 

-derty

 

edit: m8, it seems that this DVD-RW runs with default windows drivers.

Here is a quick link to the firmware available for it. Installing/Upgrading

to this firmware may very well help.

 

Also, is this a Dell Laptop? Sorry if I overlooked any model or make

in your posts above, I've skimmed since the first post. Another

thing I may have missed, have you tried laser cleaners at all?

 

edit again: It would seem that I have skipped the firmware I found

and inadvertently added the driver link I did not know I found! teh yay!?

 

Firmware is easy enough to find, by try this first. Good luck!

 

edit a THIRD TIME!!! Someone loves j0000 <3 lol. The reason I asked

if this was a Dell machine is that I used to have the same problem on both

my dell laptop and TWO of my friends' dells. A lot of times, trying over and

over and over again or booting the PC WITH the disc in question

(whichever it may have been at the time) would fix it, or at least make

it load. If it's a dell, I can confirm it isn't the drivers, but something

else more mysterious (to me anyway). STILL the drivers are worth

a try. The mere fact that your drive is reading as aCD-Rom, when you

know for sure it is in fact a DVD drive points to broken registry entries,

missing files, or missing paths altogether. Either that, or windows update

issues that perhaps over-wrote your previously fully-functional settings.

 

Did ya make it to the end of this post? Good, hopefully it is worth the read!

 

-dertyagain

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Hiya,

 

I do not have a dell laptop (However -.-" the computer I tested this one before my own was a Del Laptop... And it worked bored.gif )

I use Windows XP, on a Soltek Obic (They SUCK... If your wondering)

 

 

 

So, I downloaded the Driver/Firmware from your link... here are some Screen shots to help me describe how it went...

 

 

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Pointless Image, but I'll post it anyways....

 

 

user posted image

 

NOTE: This is the 2nd time I'm trying to install this as the 1st time, I went to "Yes" and it didn't end up installing anything

 

So this time I went to no, bringing up this;

 

 

user posted image

 

This time, we go yes.

 

 

 

user posted image

 

Ta-Dar!

Now I'm not sure if its the latest as I tried before, when it told me nothing updated (But really it did) OR

because it was already updated.

 

But, as you can see its saying Firmware in the background, and I'm guessing that the "FW is already latest" is FW = Firmware confused.gif

And on the site where I downloaded it, they're saying its a driver confused.gif

 

what one is it?? sad.gif

 

Anyway, I'm going off to look for firmware after this post. You help look for a link if you like, but as you said... Its easy to find colgate.gif

 

 

 

Someone loves j0000 <3 lol.

 

Hooray! blush.gif

Thanks for helping inlove.gif Many people have tried and failed with my problem but hopefully we/you fix it ^^

 

 

P.S.

I didn't say this on any of my other posts, but after putting in a DVD Game, when I got to My Computer

I can open up the drive, as to explore it... You see when there is no disc in there it say "Please Insert a Disc"

and you can't explore the drive... Therefor, it must be getting read, atleast a little bit

 

 

P.S.S

 

Yes, I have use laser cleaners... Umm, a disc with bristles on it thingo...

Arg, my head is going very slow bored.gif Sorry...

Can't remember if it was before or after I had this problem...

Doing this wrong can F*ck it up? cryani.gif

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Doing a cleaning at all can f*ck it up, but the risk is very minimal.

 

I have to ask, did you try Removing the device before the new install

(doing so *may* force it to install instead of checking and finding it is

"already current")? I ask because some files may be missing, but the key

identifiers for (example, the installer routine) the drive may still exist

(especially if it is Registry reliant).

 

You say you are able to explore. You explore and it appears as an

empty window, or you explore and can see the DVD contents?

 

If it is an empty window, this may be the fact that the system believes

you are running a cd-rom and wonders if you want to add files to there

to be burned to a disc, as well as it is possible that the drive being

a DVD burner, but thinking itself as a CDRom, may be blind to the

layers on your DVD, reading it as a blank cd-r! (again, thinking you

may want to add files to the disc)

 

This is pretty weird man! I'm going off to google some more, I have a

feeling though (IF you uninstalled before trying the firmware upgrade)

that it is actually a Faulty laser or servo at his point confused.gif Can you try burning

a music cdr or something just to see if you can produce an error?

 

As for your FW/Driver question, yes it was firmware, sorry to confuse you,

I hadnt downloaded and tried (obviously, not the same hardware on my

machine) and when I checked my link to work, I noticed it was claiming

drivers, so I figured it was an accidental fluke of luck.

 

I will scour Pioneer's website. It's funny that I cannot really find any

forum posts on this issue online :x But as I said, I too have suffered it,

and with GTASA, no less.

 

Good luck, I hope you find a fix, or I.

 

-derty

LUCK FOR A BUCK!!!!! f*ck Yea!

 

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My troubleshooting advice just got to work! biggrin.gif

 

This would be the correct and latest firmware for your drive...

 

INFO: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/p...7211152,00.html

 

FIRMWARE: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/p...etailsComponent

 

DIRECT DOWNLOAD: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/i...VRx09_FW158.zip

 

Now if for some reason this doesn't work, I'd say your disc is damaged. http://www.kvipu.com/CDCheck/download.php

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@ derty,

 

ok, well... How would I got about uninstalling the firmware? Without it coming up "You Need To Restart blah blah blah" (Force Restart) ? confused.gif

 

@ Ring_of_Fire

 

Welcome to a very frustrating problem colgate.gif Thanks for helping smile.gif

 

After looking around google, I Found something that said you cannot upgrade the firmware if your machine is an

OEM... Which mine is.... Is this right?... if so... F@#$!!!! sad.gifsad.gif

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After looking around google, I Found something that said you cannot upgrade the firmware if your machine is an OEM... Which mine is.... Is this right?... if so... F@#$!!!!

Yes you can still update the firmware! If it's not the correct firmware or driver, you can always revert it back.

 

 

ok, well... How would I got about uninstalling the firmware? Without it coming up "You Need To Restart blah blah blah" (Force Restart) ?

Why would you uninstall it? If it is not the latest, you update it. If it's already the latest, then you do nothing about it.

 

But if you are talking about the Windows native driver not giving the correct name for that device, then update the firmware for the device first and uninstall what's listed under CD/DVD-ROM drivers in Device Manager. After a restart, it should automatically detect the Pioneer DVD-RW drive hopefully.

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Ok, upgraded... Didn't work...

Hmm... Oh well

must he a bad laser or something

 

Thanks your your help everyone.

 

Good bye.

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Thanks your your help everyone.

 

Good bye.

We ain't giving up, and your problem can be fixed so don't walk away. If your drive can read other DVD's then it is not a bad laser. So you are saying that the firmware had been successfully upgraded to v1.58? Then why don't you at least post a screenshot for us as proof? Nobody will believe you that you followed our advices correctly. Try to check your SA dics for errors and bad sectors on it by using CDCheck, and you should consider cleaning it as well!

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Lol... Err, well... How to say this... IT WORKS!! lol.giflol.giflol.gif

Hehehe, sure happy right now tounge.gif

I went into My computer to go to Program Files and look down and saw the GTA Orange Gang Member Icon

smile.gif

All I can think of is that the firmware fixed it... And it didn't work after upgrading because I didn't restart (Because it didn't tell me to)

 

Hooray!

 

Thanks Ring_of_Fire and derty biggrin.gif

 

Problem over smile.gif

 

~ Prey

 

P.S.

Forgot how much hard the controls are then PS2/Xbox tounge2.gif

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