Ford I6 300CID 4.9L

[Jaywire]

This time last year I bought a 1995 F-150 XL. Short bed, red, amazing shape for 120,000 miles, 4.9L, 5 speed. At the time I was not a fan of Ford trucks or anything Ford for that matter. After the past year though.. I have come to love Ford and especially this truck and the Oxen of a motor called the 4.9L I6, or the 300CID, or as some old timers might call it, "straight 6"

 

I know from experience it's got about 5 times the torque as my parents 5.4 in there 2002 F-150, and could easily match give it a run for its money in a race, which is the reason people love it so much. Enough torque to pull a 5 ton boat, and enough pure power to go from 0-60 in a decent amount of time.

 

A few days ago I put a Summit racing exhaust on it, cut off the stupid catalytic converters (it had 2!) and shotgunned it out the back. My god... It was decently powerful before, but now it's just stupid powerful and sounds killer to boot.

 

I'm actually looking into getting an old 300 off ebay and rebuilding it, boring it out .030 over and putting all forged internals etc in it, then dropping that puppy in her.

 

So what is your opinion? Have you ever owned a 300? Do you think it's a great motor? I've never heard anyone say anything bad about a 300 besides they get a bit noisy once they hit about 100K. And to fix that? Run some thicker oil like 20W50. Mine purrrrs like a kitten with that thick stuff in it!

 

Now for some goodies of my baby. She is a bit rusty on the bumper and a bit on the bed side, but that is not bad at all for the year and miles!

 

 

 

 

 

[SIP YEK NOD]

ford has produced better motors. your average ford(and eve some chevy) based strip vehicle will have the 5L, and the 4.6 has all the torque of the 4.9 with better fuel economy.

 

i have an 00 F-150 with the 4.6l, and its just a monster. right now i have 10 ply load rated tires on there, and it can spin em on dry pavement. there is a whole pile of low end torque, but i would want a little more on the high end.

 

from what i hear, the 4.9s are good engines, but head to head, the 4.6 would murder the 4.9. i have had about 7500lbs if scrap iron and a 5000lb trailer, well over thrice the rated payload and nearly the maximum trailer weight, and the truck could still accelerate up a 6% grade. the tires were nearly flat, and it couldn't stop worth a damn, but who needs to stop?

 

its no surprise the first thing to fail on these things is usually the tranny. that much torque that low for that long, and there is bound to be issues.

 

mah ford:

 

 

 

[Jaywire]

The 4.6 is a decent motor, we had one in the 97 F150 I learned to drive in... spun a bearing on it, piston rings blew out, ate oil like no other. About a quart a week, no lie. My buddy has a 4.6 in his 99 Cobra SVT. BALLS! That puppy screams.

 

I've matched you in the 7500 in scrap. No trailer though. It could still accelerate and even break pretty easily. Hills were nothing, put it in 3rd gear and she purred the whole way up. I wouldn't exactly say the 4.6 would MURDER the 4.9. Sure, the 4.6 is a V8 and has more top end torque and horse, but horsepower isn't everything.

 

2000 4.6L 231 hp (172 kW)/293 ft·lb

 

1995 4.9L 165hp (123 kW)/265 ft·lb

 

With a couple mods, maybe new exhaust manifold, port my head, new headers, I could easily match the 4.6 in power. Sure, the 4.6 can be supercharged and such, but even still. I have seen 4.9L's pushing 330+ HP at the wheels and almost 450+ ft·lb with an engine rebuild and some forged internals, and still strong as an ox.

 

My truck can and will sit and spin the tires as long as I let it on dry pavement. Just dump the clutch and hold the RPM's at roughly 6000. OF course that isn't exactly GOOD for it, which is why I never do it unless some ricers try showing off with there fart along 2 liters

 

The 4.6 and 4.9 are great in each of there own ways, some advantages, some disadvantages, but it is a fact that the power and torque it has is pretty impressive for a V6. Plus it's just a strong engine.

 

All in all, my main point was that maybe its not that great in sheer power and speed, but the 4.9L is an amazing work horse. If you need to climb a wall, then tear it down, then pick all the pieces up and haul them away, then you need a 4.9L

 

PS, sorry if this seems jumbled and doesn't make much sense, been working a 16 hour shift NEED SLEEP!

[SIP YEK NOD]

My truck can and will sit and spin the tires as long as I let it on dry pavement. Just dump the clutch and hold the RPM's at roughly 6000. OF course that isn't exactly GOOD for it, which is why I never do it unless some ricers try showing off with there fart along 2 liters

 

the difference is mine is an auto, it can spin em in gear from idle

 

then again, with those smaller tires on it, that thing shouldn't have trouble doing it either.

 

for about a grand, i could get the 4 valve cylinder heads off an older Lincoln car, and a decent set of headers, it could be pushin 320hp/350 ft/lbs

 

my only real serious gripe with the 4.6, specifically the 00 4.6 is the maintinence. there is no single coil, each spark plug has its own coil. there is no spark degradation until your spark plugs go, but its nearly impossible to change the spark plugs.

 

compound that with the fact that the back 2 spark plugs are basically underneath the firewall, and you have issues.

 

[lurchseesu420]

All of my friends seemed to have or have had one. Actually went to a lot yesterday to try and buy back my friends 86 F150 4x4 with the old 300. He traded it in for 800 and they wanted 2450 for it. What Bullsh*t. And another friend has a 94 Bronco with one that blew a head gasket a few weeks ago.

 

Another friend had a 94 4x4 with 33x 11.50's on it. Drove it like a maniac. It could pull or haul anything. He once went over some rail road tracks with the bed full of scrap metal at around 50 mph. Metal went all over the road. He had the exhaust cut off and it sounded like sh*t. They don't sound much better with it on though. And it was so slow. I mean if you think they're powerful then think again. The 4WD's are even worse. I mean my 73 beetle could outrun one. But he did drive that thing like a maniac. That kind of driving caught up to him. Back in July, him and another died in a car wreck driving a 93 Explorer. They might still be alive if had been driving the F150 because he new that truck's limits. Now his dad has the truck and occasionaly hauls stuff around in it. But mostly it just sits in his shed now.

 

@ Sip for alot less than a grand you could find a totaled Mk. 8 with a near perfect engine.

Edited October 4, 2007 by lurchseesu420

[silvermanblue]

I find that most inline motors are torque monsters. But the 300 is a almost unkillable motor. But I will stick to my 4.0 HO iline 6 in my cherokee, thing is damn fast. Stickshift to

[Suction Testicle Man]

I can only talk British/European, but I own an old Ford running a 2.0l straight 4 and can say nothing but good things for their engines. With regular oil changes they run forever; I know a guy who had a Cortina Estate from new up to 360k miles, stock engine and not reconditioned. Just a shame that while the engine lasts forever, the rest of the car happily disintegrates at a frightening speed.

[Mega]

Some polish dude fit a 2.9 scorpio engine into a Polonez (google it), and turbo-ed it. All home made, not a single problem for over 50k km since. For the 300CID, it's the good ole engine block that will last ages.

[p8ntballdan02]

If you want to see the ultimate I-6, go to youtube and search for "Ford 6." There's a ford 4.0 liter 6 cylinder turbo charged. Its cracking over 1,000hp. Pretty awesome.

[lurchseesu420]

This topic is about the indestructible 4.9L 300 c.i. beast and nothing else.

[Cran.]

If you want to see the ultimate I-6, go to youtube and search for "Ford 6." There's a ford 4.0 liter 6 cylinder turbo charged. Its cracking over 1,000hp. Pretty awesome.

Falcon XR6 Turbo fanboi, anyone?

[MindCorrupt]

If you want to see the ultimate I-6, go to youtube and search for "Ford 6."  There's a ford 4.0 liter 6 cylinder turbo charged.  Its cracking over 1,000hp.  Pretty awesome.

Falcon XR6 Turbo fanboi, anyone?

 

Erm...is he not on topic?

 

The engine he is talking about is an awesome bit of kit...

[kevin2006rhs]

If you want to see the ultimate I-6, go to youtube and search for "Ford 6."  There's a ford 4.0 liter 6 cylinder turbo charged.  Its cracking over 1,000hp.  Pretty awesome.

Falcon XR6 Turbo fanboi, anyone?

 

Erm...is he not on topic?

 

The engine he is talking about is an awesome bit of kit...

Does this kid just search I6 and post in every topic he finds. What the hell man. There is no need for a damn 4 month bump.

[MindCorrupt]

If you want to see the ultimate I-6, go to youtube and search for "Ford 6."  There's a ford 4.0 liter 6 cylinder turbo charged.  Its cracking over 1,000hp.  Pretty awesome.

Falcon XR6 Turbo fanboi, anyone?

 

Erm...is he not on topic?

 

The engine he is talking about is an awesome bit of kit...

Does this kid just search I6 and post in every topic he finds. What the hell man. There is no need for a damn 4 month bump.

 

Didnt realise the dates...

 

Maybe cran was on the money, first time for everything I guess

[streetfire]

Ford's 429 Shotgun... best motor they ever made.

[tristan]

RB30, the best engine ever put into a Commodore!

 

[streetfire]

I don't feel like rice. I need some 308...

 

 

[Cran.]

RB30, the best engine ever put into a Commodore!

 

You're forgetting the LS1 and LS2. No denying the RB30 is a great engine, but you can't beat Chevy small block powah.

[Mega]

I don't feel like rice. I need some 308...

 

[streetfire]

No, not that... are you an exotic fanboy?

 

This is a 308 engine...

 

 

and this is what a 308 does in a drag race...

 

 

The 308 was the best, full stop.

[kevin2006rhs]

Hes our local European super car expert/owner.

 

 

[streetfire]

Bah. I guess I'm the aussie muscle expert then. Prolly Tristan too.

[MindCorrupt]

Bah. I guess I'm the aussie muscle expert then. Prolly Tristan too.

 

Rotaries 4 life

[kevin2006rhs]

Bah. I guess I'm the aussie muscle expert then. Prolly Tristan too.

No...Pav is a much loved veteran member of the forum. You and tristian are too good at spreading automotive mental retardation around like blue flys laying eggs.

 

Use some proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling (its probably not prolly). get your post count up with some decent f*ckin posts, and for the love of god brush up on your automotive intellect so you don't go off saying the same damn common information you used in a post yesterday over again. Gain some respect, dont act like a 4 year old on crack spouting off random, common and not so exciting automotive facts, than maybe, just maybe, you will look like a good contributing member to the forum rather than looking like the reason the was created.

 

I know its mean and I know its not nice. But dont get me wrong, its not that I don't like you. You, and Tristan alike, have been annoying the f*ck out of me with your random post chalked full of spam and/or ignorance.

 

Straighten your sh*t out, I dont want you running around looking like you just escaped from the GTAIV forum. Vehicle chat is small and the others that frequent this part of the forums are gonna recognise you. I don't want them to think "oh f*ck, not him again".

[tristan]

 

Bah. I guess I'm the aussie muscle expert then. Prolly Tristan too.

No...Pav is a much loved veteran member of the forum. You and tristian are too good at spreading automotive mental retardation around like blue flys laying eggs.

 

Use some proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling (its probably not prolly). get your post count up with some decent f*ckin posts, and for the love of god brush up on your automotive intellect so you don't go off saying the same damn common information you used in a post yesterday over again. Gain some respect, dont act like a 4 year old on crack spouting off random, common and not so exciting automotive facts, than maybe, just maybe, you will look like a good contributing member to the forum rather than looking like the reason the was created.

 

I know its mean and I know its not nice. But dont get me wrong, its not that I don't like you. You, and Tristan alike, have been annoying the f*ck out of me with your random post chalked full of spam and/or ignorance.

 

Straighten your sh*t out, I dont want you running around looking like you just escaped from the GTAIV forum. Vehicle chat is small and the others that frequent this part of the forums are gonna recognise you. I don't want them to think "oh f*ck, not him again".

Does Tristan have to lock 'dis muddaf*cka down?

 

 

EDIT: Oh sh*t your a mod.

[lurchseesu420]

 

EDIT: Oh sh*t your a mod.

Kevin isn't. Pavlov is. And just to teach you who's who here on GTAF, here's a list of all the Mods here on the forums.

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?&act=Stats&CODE=leaders

 

 

Edited February 14, 2008 by lurchseesu420

[streetfire]

Bah. I guess I'm the aussie muscle expert then. Prolly Tristan too.

No...Pav is a much loved veteran member of the forum. You and tristian are too good at spreading automotive mental retardation around like blue flys laying eggs.

 

Use some proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling (its probably not prolly). get your post count up with some decent f*ckin posts, and for the love of god brush up on your automotive intellect so you don't go off saying the same damn common information you used in a post yesterday over again. Gain some respect, dont act like a 4 year old on crack spouting off random, common and not so exciting automotive facts, than maybe, just maybe, you will look like a good contributing member to the forum rather than looking like the reason the was created.

 

I know its mean and I know its not nice. But dont get me wrong, its not that I don't like you. You, and Tristan alike, have been annoying the f*ck out of me with your random post chalked full of spam and/or ignorance.

 

Straighten your sh*t out, I dont want you running around looking like you just escaped from the GTAIV forum. Vehicle chat is small and the others that frequent this part of the forums are gonna recognise you. I don't want them to think "oh f*ck, not him again".

Not everything's about frickin' post count, lol.

 

Not to mention that rotaries are gay.

 

Vehicle chat is small and what I've done is come from the big boys place to show people a few things.

 

Do you have an attitude problem?

 

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This has been another random post made by the Aussie muscle car lover. LOL. Prolly.

[lurchseesu420]

 

Bah. I guess I'm the aussie muscle expert then. Prolly Tristan too.

No...Pav is a much loved veteran member of the forum. You and tristian are too good at spreading automotive mental retardation around like blue flys laying eggs.

 

Use some proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling (its probably not prolly). get your post count up with some decent f*ckin posts, and for the love of god brush up on your automotive intellect so you don't go off saying the same damn common information you used in a post yesterday over again. Gain some respect, dont act like a 4 year old on crack spouting off random, common and not so exciting automotive facts, than maybe, just maybe, you will look like a good contributing member to the forum rather than looking like the reason the was created.

 

I know its mean and I know its not nice. But dont get me wrong, its not that I don't like you. You, and Tristan alike, have been annoying the f*ck out of me with your random post chalked full of spam and/or ignorance.

 

Straighten your sh*t out, I dont want you running around looking like you just escaped from the GTAIV forum. Vehicle chat is small and the others that frequent this part of the forums are gonna recognise you. I don't want them to think "oh f*ck, not him again".

Not everything's about frickin' post count, lol.

 

Not to mention that rotaries are gay.

 

Vehicle chat is small and what I've done is come from the big boys place to show people a few things.

 

Do you have an attitude problem?

 

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This has been another random post made by the Aussie muscle car lover. LOL. Prolly.

I doubt Kevin has an attitude problem. But alot of us have a problem with you two spewing sh*t out of your face-holes that you have no f*cking clue about! You both sound like arrogant, one-sided, narrow-minded bogans that just like to hear yourselves talk!

Edited February 15, 2008 by lurchseesu420

[streetfire]

Seems like you have a serious problem with guys who like aussie cars.

 

Who gave you two a double dose of attitude?

 

We both have more than half an idea about cars. Since when did you start thinking you have a giant rep with V8s?

 

V8 > all.

[GM Dude]

All right, I guess I'm gonna have to be the one

that gets this topic back on track....

 

I might be interested in buying of these

vehicles equipped with said engine,

are they really any good reliability wise?