BigBoyTraks Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 It's nobodies fault but "ROCKSTARS" Period!!!! The PLaystation 3 is not developing the game Rockstar is so how is it the PS3 fault. They are the idots that waited 10 weeks b4 the release to say "Oh it's not ready". If your gonna blame someone blame "Rockstar". They have been doing this game for the past 3 years not playstation but ROCKSTAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme215 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 I don't understand why everybody is so upset at Rockstar and/or Sony I mean its a game....its gonna come out and when u see the results you'll forget that this delay ever happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
°zero Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 I don't understand why everybody is so upset at Rockstar and/or Sony I mean its a game....its gonna come out and when u see the results you'll forget that this delay ever happened I agree, it's better to resolve all mistakes and maybe put some new features and content then distribute half finished game. I can wait as long as it takes for this game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoyTraks Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Yeah I agree with delaying it if the game wasn't ready. It just sucks that it got so close to OCT then out of nowhere a huge delay. But I know once 08 comes GTA IV will be the best game on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfenVic Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 I don't understand why everybody is so upset at Rockstar and/or Sony I mean its a game....its gonna come out and when u see the results you'll forget that this delay ever happened Yeah that is the perfect attitude!. A better one is thinking this is all just a scam to get stocks through the roof this October! Sorry but nobodies gonna convince me the game isn't coming out in October or November. Heck I still even suspect December. Why would rockstar do such a thing to delay back to March? To give themselves time and not seem like asses if they had to delay it a 2nd time. This way if they get the game done when they thought or maybe even a little after. We could still expect this game in 07. The only thing the PS3 has to do is look pretty and delay games by a few weeks. It's stupid that is had to delay GTA but still they sadi they are a few weeks behind! not months!. GTA IV-360 will be done by October. GTA IV-PS3 maybe done by 2 weeks after the 16th of October. Either way I'm convinced GTA IV will be done this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasomaso Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 (edited) It's all BS Edited August 4, 2007 by rasomaso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit-Boi Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 I don't own a PS3 so I'm not taking sides, but how is it the PS3's fault? - Any real source, rather then someone not even associated with the gamemakers? - PS3 are not making the game, R* are, so how is it PS3's fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLC Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Well, a lot of people complained about how the game looked just 2 months before its realese, maybe that's the answer (see the first post). So expect a much better looking GTA4. At least, i have more time to safe money and buy a PS3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPER Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Can't they realse game just for X360 but faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithos Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Accidentally Posted it in the Wrong Topic. Um the Full Announcement about the Delay is below after the Quotes. The Main Quote about the Delay I Quoted in Post. Want the WHOLE Article, go to the link below. "The news hit the gaming world like a ton of bricks late yesterday when Take-Two suddenly announced that the much anticipated GTA IV would be pushed back into 2008. While executives in a conference call said the delay was "almost strictly because of technological challenges," Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter has another theory. "We can only surmise what happened. We think it is likely that the Rockstar team had difficulty in building an exceptionally complicated game for the PS3, and failed to recognize how far away from completion the game truly was until recently," he said. "We think it is also likely that Take-Two had a contractual commitment to Sony that it would not favor competitor Microsoft by launching the Xbox 360 version of GTA IV prior to launching the PS3 version, and believe that any delay of the PS3 version necessitated a delay of the Xbox 360 version. In our view, this is the only plausible explanation of what happened, but management was reticent to provide any details during the conference call." To Read More...Click Below Pachter: You Can Blame the PS3 for the GTA IV Delay IMO: Wow.....Is the PS3 that hard to make a game for.....O,o No wonder Sony is Losing exclusives, Not b/c of low sales but how hard it is to make really really good detailed games for it. Like GTA 4. They mush hit a barrier really hard to assume this with the PS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruinfany2k Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 This analysis is pure speculation, I don't understand why it's posted on gta4.net agreed... This is just a stupid guy who consider himself an analyst and try to tick people off for a rumor he just created. Analyst usually have data backing their speculation, and according to him, he just thinks that blah blah blah did the delay. yeah but the guy who gave the last demo said the PS3 version was a couple weeks behind so it is not that far fetched to think the PS3 is part of the reason, but I think its a combo of two things, money, and development (for both systems) is taking longer than they thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastmanonearth Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Actually maybe Microsoft paid R* $50 million not for exclusive content alone but also to delay GTA so that it wouldn't compete with their another precious Halo and to make PS3 look bad. That's another theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruXter Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 late but I blogged it My two cents On the Subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRick Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 It's nobodies fault but "ROCKSTARS" Period!!!! The PLaystation 3 is not developing the game Rockstar is so how is it the PS3 fault. They are the idots that waited 10 weeks b4 the release to say "Oh it's not ready". If your gonna blame someone blame "Rockstar". They have been doing this game for the past 3 years not playstation but ROCKSTAR. Probably because it's the PS3 that caused the problem in development, not Rockstar b/c this problem isn't apparent in the Xbox 360 as much. Either way, it's delayed, and we're pissed. Life isn't fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastmanonearth Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 It's nobodies fault but "ROCKSTARS" Period!!!! The PLaystation 3 is not developing the game Rockstar is so how is it the PS3 fault. They are the idots that waited 10 weeks b4 the release to say "Oh it's not ready". If your gonna blame someone blame "Rockstar". They have been doing this game for the past 3 years not playstation but ROCKSTAR. Probably because it's the PS3 that caused the problem in development, not Rockstar b/c this problem isn't apparent in the Xbox 360 as much. Either way, it's delayed, and we're pissed. Life isn't fair. Two seperate teams are developing games for different systems and they get in touch once in a while through conference to check on each-other's status. Who's to say the PS3 R* developing team aren't a bunch of n00bs? Maybe all the good R* veterans were assigned to work on the Xbox version and newbies were given the daunting task of making a game for PS3. Also this may not be but I think the Xbox version is the initial model and the PS3 developers are catching up to recreate it on PS3. But there is still chance it's a licencing thing or a plot by Microsoft to have as much people buy Halo as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00d Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 The fact that the PS3 version was behind the 360 version isn't because of programming difficulty. As mentioned already, this is fanboy BS and the source has no proof or backing that the PS3 caused it, they have as much credibility as some noob with the nick "Niko_Bellic2007" coming in saying "YEAH GTA W00T". Its because as it has been confirmed, the lack of a guaranteed hard drive in 360 consoles has led to R* developing for the 360 first, knowing it could be ported to the PS3 since its a more powerful console (this isn't a fanboy debate, fact: the PS3 is a more powerful console than the 360. Deal with it). If anything, the 360 caused it. But like the source its just speculation, I've got no proof. This is fanboy fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*MURDOC* Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 This is fanboy fuel. Sadly, youre correct. Which is unfortunate, because thats a rather good statement youve made. It's nobodies fault but "ROCKSTARS" Period!!!! The PLaystation 3 is not developing the game Rockstar is so how is it the PS3 fault. They are the idots that waited 10 weeks b4 the release to say "Oh it's not ready". If your gonna blame someone blame "Rockstar". They have been doing this game for the past 3 years not playstation but ROCKSTAR. Wow, thats an inane statement if ive ever read one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_Godfather Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Who knows if it was because the PS3 was behind in programming, Microsoft was was working on a compression code that wouldn't be released till January of 2008, or something else? I wouldn't be surprised if it is released by the end of the year though. It does seem like R* is sandbagging just a bit by stretching the release out to March '08. I surely want a better game, so I can forgive (can't forget) the delay if it's spectacular and bug-free. It's just very disconcerting, especially after hearing R* say over and over again how the game was on schedule. Having this long delay is about the worst thing that could have happened at this point. You can be sure that R* wouldn't do it unless it were absolutely necessary (Again, I think they sandbagged here though). Not everyone at R* is working on getting GTA4 onto these 2 consoles. So, it's very possible that new content could be added (side missions, extended storyline, more vehicles, more polish, etc.). I doubt the other engineers/programmers are going to sit on their hands while this console mess gets figured out. Word of advice Rockstar - quit catering to consoles and just bring it out on the PC first. Bringing it out on PC first would act as a great showpiece for console gamers. Unfortunately, console gamers are stuck with old hardware that is difficult to work with (obviously) and are easily outperformed by PCs. They could see it with all the bells and whistles and it would generate a lot of buzz in the air, though they may be disappointed with the visual quality/performance when they see it on their PS3 or Xbox 360. Oh well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy vs. claude Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 it wasent the ps3s fault, sony wasent making the game. was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agent17 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 it wasent the ps3s fault, sony wasent making the game. was Lol, people seem to think that Sony has a Direct influence on how the people at Rockstar program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy vs. claude Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 microsoft has the right to grand theft auto, so it would be more or less there fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimd41 Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter believes that Rockstar has delayed the release of Grand Theft Auto IV because it is struggling with development on the PlayStation 3. And since it's likely that Rockstar had an agreement with Sony not to favour one console over the other, it means they can't release one version and delay the other. "We think it is likely that the Rockstar team had difficulty in building an exceptionally complicated game for the PS3, and failed to recognise how far away from completion the game truly was until recently. "We think it is also likely that Take-Two had a contractual commitment to Sony that it would not favour competitor Microsoft by launching the Xbox 360 version of GTA IV prior to launching the PS3 version, and believe that any delay of the PS3 version necessitated a delay of the Xbox 360 version." The game has been delayed until February, March or April of 2008, though hopefully we'll have a more specific date soon. Well, it IS on gta4.net's frontpage but it wasn't apparently posted here. Anywho, I am slightly pissed off, so it IS true that dev'ing on Sony is hard? I thought it was just fanboy BS. http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/03/1542206 It's on /. now. He belives, that doesnt confirm anything. Bla bla... XBOX SUCKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerShotgun Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Well, it's PS3's fault IMO... It's harder to program a PS3 game, thanks to the processor it uses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopyDoggy Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 To be honest I am not that mad that it was delayed. Because I have waited so much for this game, and if it came out in October I know it would be flawed and full of glitches, and the wait wouldn't be worth it. So many reviews have mentioned that the R* won't have enough time to fix every flaws by October, now they have more time to improve the game and add more features, to make the already great game even better. Though I am a bit disappointed that it was delayed to waaay back in April. I have waited three years for this game, I can wait couple more months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRloading Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 microsoft has the right to grand theft auto, so it would be more or less there fault no and no M$ only has the exclusivity rights to the episodic content and R* was careful with their statements and didn't cite any one console for reasons for delay~ mind you it's just patcher and his "analysis" that it's the PS3's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTR Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 http://www.vh1gamebreak.com/2007/07/idiot-of-the-we.html idiot of the week is....guess which analyst it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*MURDOC* Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 This guy puts the "anal" in analyst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy vs. claude Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 lol, truer words have never been spoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiShMaStEr Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Wow you people make this painful, he is an analyst, he makes predictions based on word and what is going on, he has been right on different things and oh so wrong on others (this was the guy who said no more then 4 million people would be playing games online, let alone a single game). As for blaming the ps3, well couldn't it be the Xbox and microsoft with their limitations of not leting R* utilise the hdd? Unless its the direct word from Rockstar don't listen to every piece of sh*t story published, most of this crap is made up to fuel fires. R* could still finish early and release it before april, we don't know until they tell us. As for coding on the PS3, the only reason it is difficult is due to the chip system, and being out a shorter time then the 360, one of the earliest previews rockstar mentioned this that they had more time to work with the 360 devkit then the ps3. On a final note I'm f*cking glad none of you people who are complaining are Half Life 2 fans, jesus christ you would have burnt down valve HQ about 50 times by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernautus Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 well I thought about it, but I'd rather wait until the orange box comes out, hehehe, only kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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