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Leon Macaffrey


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did anyone look at the body of Macaffrey after you kill him. if so could i get a pic

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There's not much to see mate, after all he is in a complete body cast when you kill him.

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I think in the first mission where you have to kill McAffrey he's just a normal policeman ped wearing a suit. Nothing special; looks nothing like the McAffrey in LCS.

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okay thnx. i thought the body cast guy was the one u kill in Gone Fishing

 

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Hmmm nice bike

Yeah, the guy in the body cast is a different guy.

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okay thnx. i thought the body cast guy was the one u kill in Gone Fishing

I thought you never actually found out who the man in the body cast was; you were just told to kill "the witness".

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I thought you never actually found out who the man in the body cast was; you were just told to kill "the witness".

On the first mission you do for Ray you have to kill Macaffrey but you don’t but still pass the mission when you blow up his car. later on you find out he survived that’s why he is in the body cast the next time you try to kill him.

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Hmmm nice bike
I thought you never actually found out who the man in the body cast was; you were just told to kill "the witness".

On the first mission you do for Ray you have to kill Macaffrey but you don’t but still pass the mission when you blow up his car. later on you find out he survived that’s why he is in the body cast the next time you try to kill him.

Wasn't that the guy you blow up in the boat?

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Exactly, the Gone Fishing guy with the exploding barrels survives and is escorted to the police station in the next mission, equipped with bodycast.

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Exactly, the Gone Fishing guy with the exploding barrels survives and is escorted to the police station in the next mission, equipped with bodycast.

I agree with you there actually, but there is no real info to who the guy in the body cast is. All we know is that he is a witness, but in the mission plaster blaster Macaffrey’s name is not used. and in the mission gone fishing no name is used so this way would make sense.

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I thought I would consult both the official game guide and the game script to try and clear some things up regarding who is who and what missions involve who.

 

The first mission we get from Ray, Silence The Sneak involves you torching McAffrey's place in Newport and hunting him down so he never squeals again.

 

 

Ray - That scumbag McAffrey, he took more bribes than anyone. He thinks that he's gonna get an honorable discharge if he turns states evidence. He just squealed! He's under armed protection in WitSec property down in Newport, some apartment behind the car park. Torch that place, that should flush 'em out, and you'll hunt 'em down, make sure he never talks to nobody.

 

Before this you have to fight the Colombians with Phil so it has no relevance to this and after that ramming of a vehicle to obtain the evidence incriminating Donald Love. Instead we focus on the mission Gone Fishing. In this you must kill Ray's partner out on his boat.

 

 

Ray - I think my partner's a rat. We gotta shut him up, permanently. He goes fishing out of his boat near the lighthouse on Portland Rock most nights. Steal a police boat and make sure his back stabbing plans are sunk! I want him sleeping with the fishes, not eating them.

 

Finally Plaster Blaster. Kill the witness being moved from the hospital so he can give evidence.

 

 

Ray - You useless bastard. You totally messed up! My ass is on the line and you can't even kill a god damned fly. I paid you good money to kill that witness and he ain't dead. And today he's gonna make a Federal Deposition! He's being moved any second now from the Carson General Hospital up in Rockford. If he squeals, I squeal...

 

To me in the first mission we are never told or made aware that McAffrey is or was Ray's partner, just that he betrayed Ray by becoming a witness and a government informant. The man on the boat is the first person Ray refers to as his partner who you kill with ease (in some cases). When it comes to the final mission Ray is very upset that you didn’t finish what you started which was to kill the squeal which can only mean it's McAffrey, if it had been his partner on the boat he would have used the words partner in the script sequence instead of witness and squeal.

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Here is the picture of Leon McAffrey

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if you want I can take picture of man in plaster and Ray's partner who you kill in mission "Gone fishing"....

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Here are the pictures of Ray's partner and McAffrey in plaster:

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Ray's partner

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McAffrey in plaster

 

And now I will tell you why is McAffrey in plaster and not Ray's partner, because when I was playing today mission "Plaster Blaster" Ray said I will quote him:

"You useless bastard!

You totally messed up! My ass is on the line and you can't even kill a god damned fly.

I payed you good money to kill that witness (this is the key word because McAffrey was witness against Ray's and he needed to turn state evidence to the feds) and he ain't dead!

And today he's gonna make a Federal deposit! (another key word, McAffrey needed to turn state evidence to the feds).

He's being moved any second now from the Carson General hospital up in Rockford!

If he squeals, I squeal"

 

I hope we settled this now....

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Here is the picture of Leon McAffrey

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if you want I can take picture of man in plaster and Ray's partner who you kill in mission "Gone fishing"....

this is not Leon McAffrey

 

he is old in GTALCS,

and young in gta 3? confused.gif

 

he is a normal ped from the streets,not McAffrey dozingoff.gif

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Here is the picture of Leon McAffrey

user posted image

if you want I can take picture of  man in plaster and Ray's partner who you kill in mission "Gone fishing"....

this is not Leon McAffrey

 

he is old in GTALCS,

and young in gta 3? confused.gif

 

he is a normal ped from the streets,not McAffrey dozingoff.gif

This is how McAffrey looks in GTA3 (I know that he doesn't look nothing like in LCS but in GTA3 he looks like this), if you don't believe me play the first Ray's mission "Silence the snake" and don't destroy the car, just force McAffrey to leave the car and kill him and cop and then see the body, and you'll see that he looks like this....

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Here are the pictures of Ray's partner and McAffrey in plaster:

user posted image

Ray's partner

user posted image

McAffrey in plaster

 

And now I will tell you why is McAffrey in plaster and not Ray's partner, because when I was playing today mission "Plaster Blaster" Ray said I will quote him:

"You useless bastard!

You totally messed up! My ass is on the line and you can't even kill a god damned fly.

I payed you good money to kill that witness (this is the key word because McAffrey was witness against Ray's and he needed to turn state evidence to the feds) and he ain't dead!

And today he's gonna make a Federal deposit! (another key word, McAffrey needed to turn state evidence to the feds).

He's being moved any second now from the Carson General hospital up in Rockford!

If he squeals, I squeal"

 

I hope we settled this now....

Is leon in the cast found as a map object in the game's gta3.img?

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Here are the pictures of Ray's partner and McAffrey in plaster:

user posted image

Ray's partner                                                                         

user posted image

McAffrey in plaster

 

And now I will tell you why is McAffrey in plaster and not Ray's partner, because when I was playing today mission "Plaster Blaster" Ray said I will quote him:

"You useless bastard!

You totally messed up! My ass is on the line and you can't even kill a god damned fly.

I payed you good money to kill that witness (this is the key word because McAffrey was witness against Ray's and he needed to turn state evidence to the feds) and he ain't dead!

And today he's gonna make a Federal deposit! (another key word, McAffrey needed to turn state evidence to the feds).

He's being moved any second now from the Carson General hospital up in Rockford!

If he squeals, I squeal"

 

I hope we settled this now....

Is leon in the cast found as a map object in the game's gta3.img?

I don't know. I tuck the picture from the mission "Plaster blaster" because when I tried to open the file with body cast in GTA3.img it said that it doesn't have TXD files so I tuck the picture from the mission...

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McAffrey looks different to his appearance from GTA 3 because at the time Rockstar had no plans to use him again, nevermind plans to produce another GTA game set in Liberty City. Had they known at the time the characters may have had a better resemblance.

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McAffrey looks different to his appearance from GTA 3 because at the time Rockstar had no plans to use him again, nevermind plans to produce another GTA game set in Liberty City. Had they known at the time the characters may have had a better resemblance.

But in that case why wouldn't they make him resemble said McAffery in LCS?

 

Wes.

Case in point, Phil "The One Arm Bandit" Cassidy, and Victor Vance.

 

Phil shows up 4 times in GTA. In the two Liberty games, he is a very old looking character with a missing arm. In the two Vice games, he resembles the same person but looks different from the other Vice Phil and the Liberty Phils.

 

We all know the Vic Vance debate.

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