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VictorVance2006

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Jordy.

 

I think SA is a bit overrated. Without the features I don't think it would be all that great.

 

I think Goldeneye 64 is a bit overrated. Without the guns I don't think it would be all that great.

 

I think football is a bit overrated. Without the players I don't think it would be all that great.

 

I think sex is a bit overrated. Without the pleasure I don't think it would be all that great.

 

 

Ask most people why they think SA is the best GTA ever made, and I can guarantee most will say because of the stuff you can do in it.

 

Thank you captain obvious, thanks for reminding us that people like games for the stuff you do in them. sarcasm.gif

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Algonquin Assassin

 

I think SA is a bit overrated. Without the features I don't think it would be all that great.

 

I think Goldeneye 64 is a bit overrated. Without the guns I don't think it would be all that great.

 

I think football is a bit overrated. Without the players I don't think it would be all that great.

 

I think sex is a bit overrated. Without the pleasure I don't think it would be all that great.

 

 

Ask most people why they think SA is the best GTA ever made, and I can guarantee most will say because of the stuff you can do in it.

 

Thank you captain obvious, thanks for reminding us that people like games for the stuff you do in them. sarcasm.gif

I think you may have missed my point.

 

What I was saying is without the amount of features I don't think it would be that great. Hell people still play GTA III to this day which has hardly any features at all.

 

I'm sure people have other reasons for liking SA, and that's cool, which brings me onto another reason why I think it's overrated. The story. IMO I think it's the worst storyline out of all the GTAs, but not a bad storyline if it was in another game. Jeez you don't even get to kill Tennpenny yourself, and the ending is possibly the dumbest ending I've ever seen.

 

The LV portion of the game was the best IMO, but probably because that revolved the mafia.

 

Oh, and The Truth, Woozie, and Mike Toreno missions were pretty cool. They're probably my 3 favourite characters throught the entire game anyway.

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Flesh-n-Bone

 

I think you may have missed my point.

 

What I was saying is without the amount of features I don't think it would be that great. Hell people still play GTA III to this day which has hardly any features at all.

 

I'm sure people have other reasons for liking SA, and that's cool, which brings me onto another reason why I think it's overrated. The story. IMO I think it's the worst storyline out of all the GTAs, but not a bad storyline if it was in another game. Jeez you don't even get to kill Tennpenny yourself, and the ending is possibly the dumbest ending I've ever seen.

 

The LV portion of the game was the best IMO, but probably because that revolved the mafia.

So people liking it for other reasons makes it overrated? Wtf?

 

I for one thought the Las Venturas part sucked, mainly because of the casino and the mob stuff, see - opinion changes.

 

 

I think I have put a world of pain on you like you have with me, that's how annoying opinions can get, lol.

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Yeah they can get pretty annoying lol, but if we agreed on everything this forum would be very boring.

 

I don't mean to sound like I hate the game, because I don't at all. I just don't think it would be great for those reasons I listed above.

 

I'll stick to what I believe 100%. icon14.gif

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LCS has good storyline? That's down to opinions but the game didn't even have a main antagonist ffs. Torini only showed up twice during the whole storyline and we never heard or had any problems against him until the end. Plus VCS was too easy? Missions like High Wire and Turn On, Tune In, Bug Out put anything from LCS down. Plus escaping wanted levels in VCS is way harder compared to LCS.

Well, I'm just stating MY opinion. Is it bad to say opinions, Mr. Flesh-n-Bone? Torini IS the main antagonist, he's behind all the Sicilian Mob attacks and wars between the mafias and gangs of Liberty City. It's like Jerry Martinez ordering the Cholos to create havoc in Little Havana in VCS and Massimo Torini's orders to the Triads and Diablos to fight the Leone Mafia for territory in Portland Island.

 

High Wire? Quite easy. The other one you've mentioned was hard, though. Still, I admit LCS has the harder missions than VCS.

 

VCS cops don't even chase the player at 1 star level. If a cop saw you and you've ran away, the star will just pop out. Even if the star at the first level don't disappear if you escape a nearby police, no police will spawn until your star disappears. In LCS, if one cop notices you with a star it will give you a chase, sometimes, multiple of them chase you at low speeds.

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But at least we got to know why Jerry was the bad guy. He got Vic kicked out of the army and betrayed him alongside Phil once again plus said it openly that both Vic and Phil are on his "sh*t-list". He showed up and didn't hide. Rockstar tried to do something else with the storyline in LCS, maybe they wanted to be creative and not make the antagonist prominent in the storyline at all.

 

And mention a hard mission on LCS? The hardest I could think was Steering the Vote but it takes a bit of time and when you know every single voting area you'll quickly do it as well. Taking the Peace was a bit hard but after a few tries it should be done.

 

Escaping 1 star? No offense, but whoever that can't escape a one-star wanted level specially in a faster car must seriously suck at playing. And regarding wanted levels I'm talking about higher stars like 3 or 5. In VCS the FBI rip you apart even when you're driving on the run, I remember a while back I was escaping in one of their cars and then my health was blinking, then just as I escaped a blockade nearby Lance's hotel they got a good shot at me through the windshield and I got wasted. In LCS the FBI or SWAT doesn't have half the skills.

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The main issue that I had with VCS was that everything seemed so choppy and laggy almost. The animations sucked ass big time, (why couldn't R* just port Toni's directly instead of editing them??) the audio was bad just like in LCS, the story was okay, but too much redneck stuff. I give VCS a 8 out of 10. It was okay, but the original Vice City is the best!!

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Many complain about LCS getting a better rating over VCS. Why?

 

1. Loading the game is faster in LCS.

 

2. Lagging is minimized.

 

3. Good storyline.

 

4. Detailed characters, connections to each character were strong.

 

5. AI is better.

 

Only the atmosphere and game play of the game VCS got a higher notch over LCS.

Dude you are so bias its not funny. I read your points and you worthy of an argument.

 

1. VCS has more info to load than LCS it should take longer. I bet the VCS umd has more info than the LCS umd.

 

2. Fair enough

 

3. Good Storyline? What was the point? Sal promised you a couple mil and gave you half a mil?!?!? WTF?

 

4. Connections were lost after Staunton Island was opened. Who introduced us to the cop, Toshiko, Donald Love?? I seem to remember them all just randomly calling you. Which I didn't like. Vincenzo, Maria, JD, all had good introductions. Someone should have introduced us to Donald & Toshiko not the random calls.

 

5. AI was about a tie man.

 

Saying the atmosphere and gameplay is the ONLY thing better is a stretch....the music, transport options, clothing were better IMO...

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I agree with the post above me. The lag in VCS kinda got annoying but VCS clearly had a better storyline as well as it had better character tie ins. Though in GTA guys defense Donald Love wasn't really "randomly" introduced but rather introduced through the fact that you killed the old mayor of liberty city. Salvatore gave you the hook up to Donald.

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Many complain about LCS getting a better rating over VCS. Why?

 

1. Loading the game is faster in LCS.

 

2. Lagging is minimized.

 

3. Good storyline.

 

4. Detailed characters, connections to each character were strong.

 

5. AI is better.

 

Only the atmosphere and game play of the game VCS got a higher notch over LCS.

Dude you are so bias its not funny. I read your points and you worthy of an argument.

 

1. VCS has more info to load than LCS it should take longer. I bet the VCS umd has more info than the LCS umd.

 

2. Fair enough

 

3. Good Storyline? What was the point? Sal promised you a couple mil and gave you half a mil?!?!? WTF?

 

4. Connections were lost after Staunton Island was opened. Who introduced us to the cop, Toshiko, Donald Love?? I seem to remember them all just randomly calling you. Which I didn't like. Vincenzo, Maria, JD, all had good introductions. Someone should have introduced us to Donald & Toshiko not the random calls.

 

5. AI was about a tie man.

 

Saying the atmosphere and gameplay is the ONLY thing better is a stretch....the music, transport options, clothing were better IMO...

1. Proven.

 

2. Proven.

 

3. Salvatore's a wicked traitor. And a traitor surely does things like that.

 

4. Do you even listen to the phone calls in-between missions?

 

- Toni, on the instructions of Salvatore Leone, goes to meet an associate of his for the mission "Sayonara Sindaccos". The associate is corrupt LCPD police officer Leon McAffrey.

 

- Toni arrives at Toshiko's apartment in Torrington, knowing nothing about her. She explains, however, that she wants her husband, Kazuki, to be humiliated and destroyed before being killed. She says that Toni dealt the Yakuza a big blow by destroying their tank, which is performed in the mission "Munitions Dump", but that Kazuki is re-arming, with a shipment coming in soon. Toni leaves and drives to a dock in Bedford Point and kills the Yakuza men guarding the shipment. Of course, Toshiko knows everything about Kenji's organization because she's the wife.

 

-"It's Sal. Listen, the Forellis had Mayor Hole in their pocket. But, we're gonna take control of City Hall. I know a big shot businessman who'd do anything to get into office. He's a complete asshole, so he's qualified for the position. I told him you'd make sure he wins the election... for us!" Salvatore's actually introducing DL.

 

5. What?

 

Oh, yes, the music and clothing are also better... and some sports cars... and yeah, the Stretch in VCS SUCKED.

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Saying the atmosphere and gameplay is the ONLY thing better is a stretch....the music, transport options, clothing were better IMO...

I'm sorry but no, LCS had better transportation options. The only thing VCS had that LCS didn't were helicopters. That's it. LCS on the otherhand had the ferry and the underground and above ground subway.

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Damn right. And still, you can have choppers through Cheat Device in LCS.

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Not everybody has cheat-device. Besides, on VCS, Jetski's shouldn't be forgotten, water effects are the most realistic of any GTA along with IV and compare it to LCS, what a dull water. Who cares about the limo in VCS, I never bother such cars, but sure thing vehicles like Esperanto and Voodoo sucked big time in VCS. LCS maybe had better sport cars that other GTA games lack (V8 Ghost, Phobos VT, Deimos SP, Hellenbach GT and some more..) but it also lacked the appeal once you finished the storyline. In VCS I could still continue because some side-missions started by hopping on a bike/car are fun. In LCS we only had these sh*tty RC races, plus the extra health delivery missions (Pizza, noodles). VCS wins in terms of side-missions, storyline missions and features. LCS had better use of the melee weapons but you can do more with them in VCS, such as the swing hit done by targeting and pressing X.

 

VCS has way better missions, I don't get what LCS had. VCS has more varieties such as flying. Plus what was the harm of adding vehicles that hadn't previously appeared in Liberty City of GTA3. Such as Sabre.

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Not everybody has cheat-device. Besides, on VCS, Jetski's shouldn't be forgotten, water effects are the most realistic of any GTA along with IV and compare it to LCS, what a dull water. Who cares about the limo in VCS, I never bother such cars, but sure thing vehicles like Esperanto and Voodoo sucked big time in VCS. LCS maybe had better sport cars that other GTA games lack (V8 Ghost, Phobos VT, Deimos SP, Hellenbach GT and some more..) but it also lacked the appeal once you finished the storyline. In VCS I could still continue because some side-missions started by hopping on a bike/car are fun. In LCS we only had these sh*tty RC races, plus the extra health delivery missions (Pizza, noodles). VCS wins in terms of side-missions, storyline missions and features. LCS had better use of the melee weapons but you can do more with them in VCS, such as the swing hit done by targeting and pressing X.

 

VCS has way better missions, I don't get what LCS had. VCS has more varieties such as flying. Plus what was the harm of adding vehicles that hadn't previously appeared in Liberty City of GTA3. Such as Sabre.

Who even cares with the dull water? What a stupid idea if you'll just want to swim all day long. Besides, R* used this as they are testing the PSP system for the FIRST time at the time for LCS... if you don't know.

 

Storyline missions? No way, LCS had better ones like the Bringing the House Down (easy). The ending was more serious and more GTA-like in LCS. Lance Vance sucked in VCS. He's a d*ck in VCS. He's better in VC, IMO.

 

Melee weapons? What's their purpose in the games? Design?

 

As I said, LCS is the FIRST game in the GTA series set up for the PSP. No matter why it had "variety".

 

We have tons of cars in LCS. The Hellenbach GT closely resembles the Sabre.

 

VCS is NOT underrated, it deserves it's rating. Glitches, PLOT HOLES, lack of characterization, removed content from the original VC (you can't access the Pole Position and the Malibu, how SICKENING). LCS, on the other hand, was a maiden eagle, flown with the veterans without any glitches or screw ups with a 9+.

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Flesh-n-Bone

 

Who even cares with the dull water? What a stupid idea if you'll just want to swim all day long. Besides, R* used this as they are testing the PSP system for the FIRST time at the time for LCS... if you don't know.

 

Storyline missions? No way, LCS had better ones like the Bringing the House Down (easy). The ending was more serious and more GTA-like in LCS. Lance Vance sucked in VCS. He's a d*ck in VCS. He's better in VC, IMO.

 

Melee weapons? What's their purpose in the games? Design?

 

As I said, LCS is the FIRST game in the GTA series set up for the PSP. No matter why it had "variety".

 

We have tons of cars in LCS. The Hellenbach GT closely resembles the Sabre.

 

VCS is NOT underrated, it deserves it's rating. Glitches, PLOT HOLES, lack of characterization, removed content from the original VC (you can't access the Pole Position and the Malibu, how SICKENING). LCS, on the other hand, was a maiden eagle, flown with the veterans without any glitches or screw ups with a 9+.

I'm not stupid, I know it all, after all I'm a GTA fan and care about the two Stories games.

 

Bringing the House Down had a cool explosion, that's about it. What's the fun of driving on the dark subway, the only thing I liked about the mission was the explosion. And what do you mean by easy? You mean the mission was easy? What's the point of having an easy game, the more challenging the better because if it's easy you will quickly become bored. Who cares about Lance, at least he had more personality, not to mention LCS had some of the weirdest characters.

 

When the f*ck did I talk about melee weapons and their design? Stop making up stupid non-sense, I said in VCS with a bat for instance, you can do a swing hit on your target which is better than the plain normal hits from LCS, the better thing with melee weapons on LCS though, is that you can walk and hit people with it, but in VCS Vic always stops when he uses one.

 

Sure thing LCS was the first GTA for PSP, but that proves VCS is better since R* had more experience with PSP's. I mentioned Sabre as an example, they could have easily added it to the game's car-collection. But still some of the sport cars fill it's place. Forget about that now.

 

VCS is quite underrated, to an extent many people say it sucks and is the handicap of the GTA family which is plain bullsh*t.

Glitches... I'm playing it on ps2 and the only glitch I have had is the garage eating my cars, but then on LCS it has happened to me EVEN more, there I have lost some special vehicles because of this (Bulletproof PCJ-600 for instance). Plot holes? Give me one example where it's a plot hole, speaking off which, LCS had plot holes. I mean Miguel dies on "Contra-Banned" yet he reappears again in GTA3 set three years later. And then the Sex Club 7 thing if you have noticed, in San Andreas: The Introduction, CJ stands somewhere nearby and steals a car where you can see the club. In LCS it is at first controlled by the Sindacco's and called "Paulie's Revue Bar". So what is it? Leone's controlled the city from the beginning and then the Sindacco's took over. And what's the idea of CHINATOWN and then having it controlled by the mob. A place like this is supposed to be run by the Triads. Where did Rockstar get the idea that the mob is supposed to have full control over the whole city? Even the Yakuza casino is owned by the Sindacco's at first, how far did they go?

 

I forgot to respond to another one of your comments, the ending of LCS was more GTA like? Please tell me that's a joke. I never knew GTA is about getting your bosses charges dropped on the final mission then having your main enemies coming on the way. For a final mission you are supposed to organize an attack on the main antagonists not getting your charges dropped. That was a rarity because LCS is the only GTA where nobody big betrays you which is quite a bad go at it. VCS was at least GTA like for a final mission, you organize how to take down your target and not go to rescue your friend and have the bad guys exactly on your way.

 

Say if the Sicilians hadn't kidnapped the mayor. The final mission would be head over to City Hall and let Salvatore get his charges dropped, now drive him back to Saint Marks and WOW, mission passed! At least R* added a bit of shoot-out into it.

 

One last thing, talking about interiors, if VCS removed Malibu Club and Pole Position (which was a rather good riddance) then what shall I say about LCS? It didn't have a single interior aside from your safehouses and that shipment.

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Who even cares with the dull water? What a stupid idea if you'll just want to swim all day long. Besides, R* used this as they are testing the PSP system for the FIRST time at the time for LCS... if you don't know.

 

Storyline missions? No way, LCS had better ones like the Bringing the House Down (easy). The ending was more serious and more GTA-like in LCS. Lance Vance sucked in VCS. He's a d*ck in VCS. He's better in VC, IMO.

 

Melee weapons? What's their purpose in the games? Design?

 

As I said, LCS is the FIRST game in the GTA series set up for the PSP. No matter why it had "variety".

 

We have tons of cars in LCS. The Hellenbach GT closely resembles the Sabre.

 

VCS is NOT underrated, it deserves it's rating. Glitches, PLOT HOLES, lack of characterization, removed content from the original VC (you can't access the Pole Position and the Malibu, how SICKENING). LCS, on the other hand, was a maiden eagle, flown with the veterans without any glitches or screw ups with a 9+.

I'm not stupid, I know it all, after all I'm a GTA fan and care about the two Stories games.

 

Bringing the House Down had a cool explosion, that's about it. What's the fun of driving on the dark subway, the only thing I liked about the mission was the explosion. And what do you mean by easy? You mean the mission was easy? What's the point of having an easy game, the more challenging the better because if it's easy you will quickly become bored. Who cares about Lance, at least he had more personality, not to mention LCS had some of the weirdest characters.

 

When the f*ck did I talk about melee weapons and their design? Stop making up stupid non-sense, I said in VCS with a bat for instance, you can do a swing hit on your target which is better than the plain normal hits from LCS, the better thing with melee weapons on LCS though, is that you can walk and hit people with it, but in VCS Vic always stops when he uses one.

 

Sure thing LCS was the first GTA for PSP, but that proves VCS is better since R* had more experience with PSP's. I mentioned Sabre as an example, they could have easily added it to the game's car-collection. But still some of the sport cars fill it's place. Forget about that now.

 

VCS is quite underrated, to an extent many people say it sucks and is the handicap of the GTA family which is plain bullsh*t.

Glitches... I'm playing it on ps2 and the only glitch I have had is the garage eating my cars, but then on LCS it has happened to me EVEN more, there I have lost some special vehicles because of this (Bulletproof PCJ-600 for instance). Plot holes? Give me one example where it's a plot hole, speaking off which, LCS had plot holes. I mean Miguel dies on "Contra-Banned" yet he reappears again in GTA3 set three years later. And then the Sex Club 7 thing if you have noticed, in San Andreas: The Introduction, CJ stands somewhere nearby and steals a car where you can see the club. In LCS it is at first controlled by the Sindacco's and called "Paulie's Revue Bar". So what is it? Leone's controlled the city from the beginning and then the Sindacco's took over. And what's the idea of CHINATOWN and then having it controlled by the mob. A place like this is supposed to be run by the Triads. Where did Rockstar get the idea that the mob is supposed to have full control over the whole city? Even the Yakuza casino is owned by the Sindacco's at first, how far did they go?

 

I forgot to respond to another one of your comments, the ending of LCS was more GTA like? Please tell me that's a joke. I never knew GTA is about getting your bosses charges dropped on the final mission then having your main enemies coming on the way. For a final mission you are supposed to organize an attack on the main antagonists not getting your charges dropped. That was a rarity because LCS is the only GTA where nobody big betrays you which is quite a bad go at it. VCS was at least GTA like for a final mission, you organize how to take down your target and not go to rescue your friend and have the bad guys exactly on your way.

 

Say if the Sicilians hadn't kidnapped the mayor. The final mission would be head over to City Hall and let Salvatore get his charges dropped, now drive him back to Saint Marks and WOW, mission passed! At least R* added a bit of shoot-out into it.

 

One last thing, talking about interiors, if VCS removed Malibu Club and Pole Position (which was a rather good riddance) then what shall I say about LCS? It didn't have a single interior aside from your safehouses and that shipment.

I didn't call you stupid. You called yourself stupid.

 

Yeah the explosion was amazing.

 

The design means like an accessory for the weapons? Like an extra? I have more fun with a flamethrower. Read through the lines, "blind" man...

 

What if I said that why didn't R* added all of San Andreas' cars in VCS? Besides, you said "Rakstar is a veteran in da Pi-Es-Pi Softwer.... way nat ad dows kars in San Andreyas?"

 

Are you playing dumb? The PS2 is a PORT from the PSP. Try the PSP version, dude. See for yourself.

 

Who's Pete Vance? Where the hell did he came from? Who's Louise Cassidy? Phil didn't even mentioned her in Vice City. Marty? The Trailer Park Gang (Mafia? What? Are they Italian?).

 

Miguel didn't die. Try looking here.

 

It might have a recent takeover of the bar between 1992 and 1998, when the drug dealer at the mission Slacker said:

 

Dealer: Oh, man... I don't feel too good... I think I might have a fever or something. I told Vinnie already... Chinatown's no go for the Leones now! The Sindaccos are moving in! If I go there, I'm a dead man!

 

The triads were just a little faction in Portland until Massimo Torini urged them to takeover. Now, the Triads control Chinatown. Come on, man. It's like you don't have an imagination.

 

That's better than killing two aging idiots in VCS with a minigun or M4. At least you could take a chance to blow up something. And getting your charges dropped? Hello, it's based on the Sicilian Mafias in Sicily bribing government officials. Looks like you don't know what's in a TRUE mafia after all.

 

OK, you won in this part. But then, how could they remove such? I mean, it was a great part. How sickening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Flesh-n-Bone

 

I didn't call you stupid. You called yourself stupid.

 

Yeah the explosion was amazing.

 

The design means like an accessory for the weapons? Like an extra? I have more fun with a flamethrower. Read through the lines, "blind" man...

 

What if I said that why didn't R* added all of San Andreas' cars in VCS? Besides, you said  "Rakstar is a veteran in da Pi-Es-Pi Softwer.... way nat ad dows kars in San Andreyas?"

 

Are you playing dumb? The PS2 is a PORT from the PSP. Try the PSP version, dude. See for yourself.

 

Who's Pete Vance? Where the hell did he came from? Who's Louise Cassidy? Phil didn't even mentioned her in Vice City. Marty? The Trailer Park Gang (Mafia? What? Are they Italian?).

 

Miguel didn't die. Try looking here.

 

It might have a recent takeover of the bar between 1992 and 1998, when the drug dealer at the mission Slacker said:

 

Dealer: Oh, man... I don't feel too good... I think I might have a fever or something. I told Vinnie already... Chinatown's no go for the Leones now! The Sindaccos are moving in! If I go there, I'm a dead man!

 

The triads were just a little faction in Portland until Massimo Torini urged them to takeover. Now, the Triads control Chinatown. Come on, man. It's like you don't have an imagination.

 

That's better than killing two aging idiots in VCS with a minigun or M4. At least you could take a chance to blow up something. And getting your charges dropped? Hello, it's based on the Sicilian Mafias in Sicily bribing government officials. Looks like you don't know what's in a TRUE mafia after all.

 

OK, you won in this part. But then, how could they remove such? I mean, it was a great part. How sickening.

Now you are making up stories. Instead of bullsh*tting try to come up with a point backing up what you are trying to say. I'm not contesting or anything, I'm just stating my opinion on the whole thing. The whole explosion is mentioned already and agreed upon, let's get over it.

 

Did I even mention the design of a weapon? Are you playing blind or what? Flamethrower? Yep it's in both LCS and VCS so what does this have to do with what we're trying to say?

 

This part was such a disaster, you're only playing dumb, I type in proper words, you're making up stories AGAIN, come up with a reason as to why you see it that way. I have never typed like a monkey, maybe you have done it, so don't get sh*t confused.

 

PS2 version of VCS has differences, more side-missions, rampages and unique stunts and some glitches are removed. People always talk negatively about the glitches on the PSP version, now read it again carefully, the only glitch that has occurred to me is the garage eating my cars. I've heard the PSP has things like if you click on the triangle button while exiting the menu Vic will also bail out from his car.

 

Who's Pete Vance, Louise and Marty? Well, VCS is a prequel and no other GTA's have been set before it. It's like me asking who is Massimo Torini and why didn't Sal mention him in GTA3. What does this whole mafia bullsh*t you're talking about have to do with what I said? It's like saying the Russian Mafia is bullsh*t because they aren't Italian. Now I know Marty's gang are just a petty small time gang but gangs are always considered like "mafia" because they are criminals, street or criminal organization.

 

Miguel is supposed to survive, but I even once did shoot the sh*t out of him. If that is supposed to make up as he didn't die which he in-fact didn't, then I can say Lance didn't die in Vice City either. Because he can just wake up and take the helicopter then escape to a hospital and get patched up. Same story...

 

Yes I know about the bar, that's exactly what I said was like. That's just imagination again.

 

Regarding the whole Chinatown thing, it just doesn't seem to fit in, why call it Chinatown and then have it controlled by the mob. I know you're coming up with another excuse for this, but that just seems too unrealistic.

 

Oh, the irony, that part is funny, so a final mission for you has to blow up a vehicle or something? Silly me, if that's true then Vice City has the sh*ttiest final mission, you don't even enter a vehicle or blow up one! Damn and you say Vice City is amazing and has the best ending or something, you seem to have an ultra bias against VCS.

 

At least the getting charges dropped could have been the next-last mission. And then in the last mission you have to kill Torini and wipe out the Sicilians. Now this seems to be a better ending.

 

And now don't think I'm hating or something, I'm just making a point.

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I agree with the post above me. The lag in VCS kinda got annoying but VCS clearly had a better storyline as well as it had better character tie ins. Though in GTA guys defense Donald Love wasn't really "randomly" introduced but rather introduced through the fact that you killed the old mayor of liberty city. Salvatore gave you the hook up to Donald.

Interesting. You may be right, in fact I think you are. It would have been better if Love and Sal were in a cut scene together. I have only beat the game once, and I was trying to pay close attention to the story. It was a little hard to follow.

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- Toni, on the instructions of Salvatore Leone, goes to meet an associate of his for the mission "Sayonara Sindaccos". The associate is corrupt LCPD police officer Leon McAffrey.

 

- Toni arrives at Toshiko's apartment in Torrington, knowing nothing about her. She explains, however, that she wants her husband, Kazuki, to be humiliated and destroyed before being killed. She says that Toni dealt the Yakuza a big blow by destroying their tank, which is performed in the mission "Munitions Dump", but that Kazuki is re-arming, with a shipment coming in soon. Toni leaves and drives to a dock in Bedford Point and kills the Yakuza men guarding the shipment. Of course, Toshiko knows everything about Kenji's organization because she's the wife.

 

-"It's Sal. Listen, the Forellis had Mayor Hole in their pocket. But, we're gonna take control of City Hall. I know a big shot businessman who'd do anything to get into office. He's a complete asshole, so he's qualified for the position. I told him you'd make sure he wins the election... for us!" Salvatore's actually introducing DL.

 

 

Random Calls to me. But I do vaguely remember those conversations.

 

"Hey this is Sal go work for this guy"

 

"Hey this is Sal now I need you to work for this guy"

 

versus

 

Lance Introducing you to Forbes.

 

Meeting Louis(Phils sis) when looking for Marty

 

Martinez sending you to meet Phil, then actually seeing Phil & Martinez together at Phil's place

 

Lance introducing you to the film director that connects you to Reni.

 

Those are better connections then the random phone call "hey go meet my friend"

 

I hope Chinatown Wars does not make the same mistakes that Liberty City Stories made as far as storytelling.

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Random Calls to me. But I do vaguely remember those conversations.

 

"Hey this is Sal go work for this guy"

 

"Hey this is Sal now I need you to work for this guy"

 

versus

 

Lance Introducing you to Forbes.

 

Meeting Louis(Phils sis) when looking for Marty

 

Martinez sending you to meet Phil, then actually seeing Phil & Martinez together at Phil's place

 

Lance introducing you to the film director that connects you to Reni.

 

Those are better connections then the random phone call "hey go meet my friend"

 

I hope Chinatown Wars does not make the same mistakes that Liberty City Stories made as far as storytelling.

I second this, where the hell did Toshiko get Toni's number from anyway? This question has never been answered. You never get "introduced" to her in any way, she just randomly calls, how can Toni even trust mysterious calls? And yeah, LCS relied too much on phone calls, you hardly ever get addressed as to WHERE exactly the contacts are. Sal just says "a friend of mine in Aspatria" regarding McAffrey all of them are random.

 

In VCS you actually get introduced to the characters face-to-face through whoever told you about them. Spitz (the dealer in Brawn of the Dead) pages you and gives you the address of Reni and all. The same goes to Phil Collins and company.

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Minor details can do so much!! And if you are into the games, not just the cussing and violence then these things will stick out to you. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories is very very very underrated, the glitches need to be repaired and the game re released. No Doubt

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I didn't call you stupid. You called yourself stupid.

 

Yeah the explosion was amazing.

 

The design means like an accessory for the weapons? Like an extra? I have more fun with a flamethrower. Read through the lines, "blind" man...

 

What if I said that why didn't R* added all of San Andreas' cars in VCS? Besides, you said  "Rakstar is a veteran in da Pi-Es-Pi Softwer.... way nat ad dows kars in San Andreyas?"

 

Are you playing dumb? The PS2 is a PORT from the PSP. Try the PSP version, dude. See for yourself.

 

Who's Pete Vance? Where the hell did he came from? Who's Louise Cassidy? Phil didn't even mentioned her in Vice City. Marty? The Trailer Park Gang (Mafia? What? Are they Italian?).

 

Miguel didn't die. Try looking here.

 

It might have a recent takeover of the bar between 1992 and 1998, when the drug dealer at the mission Slacker said:

 

Dealer: Oh, man... I don't feel too good... I think I might have a fever or something. I told Vinnie already... Chinatown's no go for the Leones now! The Sindaccos are moving in! If I go there, I'm a dead man!

 

The triads were just a little faction in Portland until Massimo Torini urged them to takeover. Now, the Triads control Chinatown. Come on, man. It's like you don't have an imagination.

 

That's better than killing two aging idiots in VCS with a minigun or M4. At least you could take a chance to blow up something. And getting your charges dropped? Hello, it's based on the Sicilian Mafias in Sicily bribing government officials. Looks like you don't know what's in a TRUE mafia after all.

 

OK, you won in this part. But then, how could they remove such? I mean, it was a great part. How sickening.

Now you are making up stories. Instead of bullsh*tting try to come up with a point backing up what you are trying to say. I'm not contesting or anything, I'm just stating my opinion on the whole thing. The whole explosion is mentioned already and agreed upon, let's get over it.

 

Did I even mention the design of a weapon? Are you playing blind or what? Flamethrower? Yep it's in both LCS and VCS so what does this have to do with what we're trying to say?

 

This part was such a disaster, you're only playing dumb, I type in proper words, you're making up stories AGAIN, come up with a reason as to why you see it that way. I have never typed like a monkey, maybe you have done it, so don't get sh*t confused.

 

PS2 version of VCS has differences, more side-missions, rampages and unique stunts and some glitches are removed. People always talk negatively about the glitches on the PSP version, now read it again carefully, the only glitch that has occurred to me is the garage eating my cars. I've heard the PSP has things like if you click on the triangle button while exiting the menu Vic will also bail out from his car.

 

Who's Pete Vance, Louise and Marty? Well, VCS is a prequel and no other GTA's have been set before it. It's like me asking who is Massimo Torini and why didn't Sal mention him in GTA3. What does this whole mafia bullsh*t you're talking about have to do with what I said? It's like saying the Russian Mafia is bullsh*t because they aren't Italian. Now I know Marty's gang are just a petty small time gang but gangs are always considered like "mafia" because they are criminals, street or criminal organization.

 

Miguel is supposed to survive, but I even once did shoot the sh*t out of him. If that is supposed to make up as he didn't die which he in-fact didn't, then I can say Lance didn't die in Vice City either. Because he can just wake up and take the helicopter then escape to a hospital and get patched up. Same story...

 

Yes I know about the bar, that's exactly what I said was like. That's just imagination again.

 

Regarding the whole Chinatown thing, it just doesn't seem to fit in, why call it Chinatown and then have it controlled by the mob. I know you're coming up with another excuse for this, but that just seems too unrealistic.

 

Oh, the irony, that part is funny, so a final mission for you has to blow up a vehicle or something? Silly me, if that's true then Vice City has the sh*ttiest final mission, you don't even enter a vehicle or blow up one! Damn and you say Vice City is amazing and has the best ending or something, you seem to have an ultra bias against VCS.

 

At least the getting charges dropped could have been the next-last mission. And then in the last mission you have to kill Torini and wipe out the Sicilians. Now this seems to be a better ending.

 

And now don't think I'm hating or something, I'm just making a point.

OK! I give up. VCS is INDEED better than LCS. From the facts about it...oh my... I just realized it today. The music, all.

 

Still, VC had a better ending, and VC is better than VCS.

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OK! I give up. VCS is INDEED better than LCS. From the facts about it...oh my... I just realized it today. The music, all.

 

Still, VC had a better ending, and VC is better than VCS.

Good, you've realized it if that's what you were looking for during our argument.

 

And the whole VC vs VCS is your opinion, for me it's the complete opposite.

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OK! I give up. VCS is INDEED better than LCS. From the facts about it...oh my... I just realized it today. The music, all.

 

Still, VC had a better ending, and VC is better than VCS.

Good, you've realized it if that's what you were looking for during our argument.

 

And the whole VC vs VCS is your opinion, for me it's the complete opposite.

Yeah, and a part of a different argument.smile.gif

 

Nice debate, mate. Seeing for more.wink.gif

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OK! I give up. VCS is INDEED better than LCS. From the facts about it...oh my... I just realized it today. The music, all.

 

Still, VC had a better ending, and VC is better than VCS.

Good, you've realized it if that's what you were looking for during our argument.

 

And the whole VC vs VCS is your opinion, for me it's the complete opposite.

Yeah, and a part of a different argument.smile.gif

 

Nice debate, mate. Seeing for more.wink.gif

True, as long as it doesn't get as far as name calling I don't see any problem with it. Though I must be honest and say that you always provoke an argument, not this one, but you have some comments in the VC section that I would have had a 10 pages argument about but I don't want to have it happen.

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Yeah...right.smile.gif

 

Well, err... what? Don't stare at me.

 

Anyway, 8 out of 10 isn't that bad.

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I don't know what it is but VCS is the most ignored gta game to date, it recieved pretty average reviews and didn't sell well. The PSP game was illegally downloaded by much of the community (I however purchased mine. I love the game, I believe that it is one of the best games from the series but somehow its predasessor LCS did much better in reviews and sales when VCS had more content, gameplay variety, characters and longer missions...but some how it was poorly recieved by critics and sales...WHY?

 

(evidence..this gta out of the 'new' series in the forum ranks the lowest in responses)

I doubt it because VCS won the 2007 handheld game of the year award.

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I doubt it because VCS won the 2007 handheld game of the year award.

The 2007 Award from who?

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VCS is the worst ps2 release rockstar made in the series. It had a good radio, but most of the few things that VC lacked VCS had, but VCS lacked the great appeal and gameplay that VC had, so it was never going to compete there.

 

And LCS was better than VCS for these reasons:

 

Didn't rip off the original game

Better Missions

More Missions

Better Vehicles

 

The most underated game is either III or VC. Oh and to those who are actually debating VC V VCS- that is no contest- VC wins hands down- you can't beat the original- especially when the original was better.

 

BTW - (sorry, I keep thinking of new things) how is the game finale to VC bad? If anything it is the best- sonny comes down south looking for Tommy's money, and Ken and Lance are there for Tommy- but then you find Lance has swapped sides.

 

You kill the mafia stealing your money- chase Lance and kill him- then go back for sonny. The ending is classic, Ken and Tommy looking out of the window , saying they were going to have a beautiful partnership, it gave a real sense of achievement.

 

I'm not saying VCS is bad- it is good, if it wasn't for VC it would either be my favourite or second behind SA. It's just that I felt VC was better without the prequel, but whatever, you VCS guys can have your opinions.

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What do you mean by "rip off"? If you mean the city then that's completely wrong. VCS was a prequel to VC with nearly the same city and only minor changes. LCS was a prequel to III with the same city and the only major changes being Fort Staunton and the tunnels. Better missions are your opinion. I like the VCS missions way more because they have more variety and are just more fun and challenging. I prefer VCS to VC a long way. The latter is my least favorite GTA along with IV. VCS is fun, and pretty much the only GTA I can continue to 100% non-stop. VC's finale was awful because it's pretty much a Scarface rip off with the only difference being that Tommy wins the battle. Plus I absolutely hate anything with mobsters and mafia so VCS and SA are my favored GTA's because the former is the only GTA that doesn't have the mafia AT ALL while on the latter you're against the mafia and they only take part in a short chapter where I have the pleasure to rob their dumb asses.

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