Japp Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 (edited) Hi all, The list is done in a version 1.0 and have been posted as WEAPONS OF GTA IV The list is still open for comments and discussion and will still be updated when needed. Enjoy UPDATES: 13/8-07 G3SG-1 specs and new SPAS-12 picture added 7/8-07 Micro uzi, SPAS-12 and Remington Model 870 specs added 6/8-07 Desert Eagle specs added 4/8-07 Stanley Retractable Blade Knive added And here is the result. I've put in the specs for the real weapons. Since rockstar seems to be going for the realistic approach this time, maybe the weapons in the game will handle like their real life counterparts in terms of: damage, speed, acuracy, mag capacity etc. GLOCK 17 This one is pretty obvious, i think. There are lots of good screes showing this gun. The model is pretty easy to make in a game and therefor also easy to recognise. Not only is the Glock probably supposed to be a G17, it's a first or second gen version, as opposed to the third gen version in the photo. But it is kinda hard to tell if it is the 1st, 2nd or 3rd generation version of the gun, perhaps a mix-up. Glock 17Caliber 9mm Cartridge 9 x 19mm (Para) Bullets initial speed 360 m/s Muzzle Energy 500 Joules Practical Rate of Fire 40 RPM Mazine Capacity 17 Rounds Desert eagle lookalike This one is defednely not the Glock 17, but what is it then, it looks big and it have a vertical butterfly profil seen from the front. My guess is that it is a Desert Eagle. Becaurse of the muzzle shape beeing nearly unique in Desert Eagle design, the safety switch also has a distinct shape which can be recognized in that picture, and the trigger guard has a distinct shape which is not rounded nor square but bulges slightly inwards. The only thing that is not 'desert eagle' about that gun is the barrel which is extended slightly out of the slide which no production desert eagle has ever had - any barrel extension has been a part of the slide. My take on that is a fault on the artists' part. Desert EagleCaliber .50 (12.7mm) Cartridge .50 Action Express Bullets initial speed 395 m/s Muzzle Energy 2 025 Joules Practical Rate of Fire 20 - 30 round/min Mazine Capacity 7 rounds Range of effective fire 200m and more Micro uzi At fist i thought that is was an Ingram MAC-11, But if you look clser, you can see a difference underneathe the tip of the barrel, where the ingram is flat, the micro uzi isent. Rockstar got this model pretty close to the original. Notice that the ingame model has a high capacity magasine on it (could this be an indication of costimizable wepons and/or weapon upgrades?) Micro uziCaliber 9mm Cartridge 9x19mm Luger/Para Rate of Fire 1250 round/min Magazine Capacity 20 Range of effective fire 30m Heckler & Koch MP5 N(A3) The world famous SMG Mp5 is probaly on of the most common weapons in games. It is pretty hard to tell wich model it is, since the foram looks a bit wide, and there is som 2 graphics on the side wich could be the indicator for single, auto and secure. Still i think is resembles the A3, most likely a A3 Navy N(A3). An if we take the art in consideration, its yet another hint that the weapons will have upgrades, see the flashlight. flashlights. But since its not at screen its not certain it will be in the game:) Heckler & Koch MP5 A3Caliber 9mm Cartridge 9 × 19 mm Luger, 10 mm Auto, .40 S&W Bullets initial speed 270 m/s (886 ft/s) Muzzle Energy 637 joules Practical Rate of Fire 800 round/min Mazine Capacity 15- or 30-round detachable box Colt M4 This one is one of the more difficult to recognize. But after running the trailer a coulpe of times in slow, i managed to get this shot were i IMHO thik it looks most like a M4 which makes sense, since ot is another favorit weapon amongst game developers. Also this is commonly used among special police forces in the US (such as SWAT).Some has surgested that it might be a HK416, but the one in the game has a triangular front sight like an M4, whereas the HK416 has a flip-up sight. The HK416 also has a "seamless" quad-rail on the front instead of the round handguards seen in the trailer. Otherwise, the HK416 is an M4, only with a piston-driven bolt rather than direct gas impingement. Notice that the M4 havent got anything mounted on the RAIL system (see picture) on top. Not even a sight (carry handle) like the real life picture one, wich isent normal (could this be an indication of costimizable wepons) Colt M4Caliber 5,56 mm Cartridge 5.56 x 45 mm NATO Bullets initial speed 905 m/s (2,970 ft/s) Practical Rate of Fire 700–950 round/min Magazine Capacity 20- or 30-round detachable box magazine/90 rounder drum magazine Sighting Range 600m AK-47 with ACE folding stock This one, is proberly the one people argue the most about.. Many people think it is a Ak-74. Proberly because of the folding stock. The Kalashnikov appears to be an AK-47 (or one of the other combloc copies) with an ACE folding stock (much like the ones on Ak-74's). Like this, only with wood furniture on the front. Since the AK-47 dosent come with this stock standart it has led me to belive that the stock might be cotomiserble, perhps adding a feature such as being able to conseal the weapon under a coat or in a bag, perhaps you will get wanted in the game if you are seen carrying a weapon in the open street, with the new realisem approach an wanted levle system. Or the foldable stock could be foldede when entering a vehicle, making it possible to make drive-bys with it. AK-47Caliber 7,62mm Cartridge 7.62x39 Killing range m 1500 Muzzle Energy 700joules Practical Rate of Fire 600 rds/min Mazine Capacity 30 Heckler & Koch G3SG-1 This is the sniper version of the german G3A3. It is basically a bit longer G3A3 with a scope and foldable legs in the front. The artist seems to have choosen a different scope, but otherwise its seemes to be a match. H&K G3SG-1Caliber 7.62mm Cartridge 7.62x51mm NATO (.308 Winchester) Bullets initial speed 803m/s Practical Rate of Fire 500-650 rounds/minute (varies due to version) Mazine Capacity 20 SPAS-12 It defetnely look like the tactical shotgun, SPASS 12. Also noticed that the one the cop is hold has a added folding stock. Again this could mean costermiserble weapons or different versions of weapons.. perhaps the one with the folding stock has an added accuracy, and can be folded to hide under a coat or in a bag. SPASS-12Gauge 12 Chamber 2 3/4" (70 mm) Capacity 8 rounds in underbarrel tube magazine Remington Model 870 (Sawed off) Well, im not that good at shotguns, so if you can help with this one it would be great. I think that it is a sawed off version of one of the Remington Model 870's. The one in the picture is the Exprees. The red lines indicate where it has been cut. Remington Model 870 Gauge 12 Capacity up to 7 or 8 rounds in underbarrel tube magazine Stanley Retractable Blade Knive If this will appear as a weapon in the game is kinda hard to tell, since it only appear in the hand of some guy in a cutscene. But since it is used as a weapon by him lets assume that it is. I think it is the Stanley knive since it is the Retractable Blade Knive that look most like it out of the limited amount that i know of. But if you look at the picture, it seems to have the same screw on the side, and the guys thomb is placed where the blade scroller is, and it seems to have the same curve on the back if you take the angle, in wich he is holde it, to account. HUGE THANKS TO TDP992 manofpeace shaboobala illspirit The general2 Land Of Confusion jllr Edited August 13, 2007 by Japp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obey Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 already been done hasnt it? never really took off, although i think the topic i'm thinking of was just a weopens with list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDP992 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Somebody already made a weapon count, but this one's alot better. It'd be better if you could post it instead of just linking it though. And here is another weapon weapon you can add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obey Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Somebody already made a weapon count, but this one's alot better. It'd be better if you could post it instead of just linking it though. And here is another weapon weapon you can add. funk knows wtf that it, an m4 maybe? i dont know my guns very well, i'm english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japp Posted July 16, 2007 Author Share Posted July 16, 2007 (edited) Somebody already made a weapon count, but this one's alot better. It'd be better if you could post it instead of just linking it though. And here is another weapon weapon you can add. Im kinda new to this forum. Havent got the skills yet.. Maybe ill do it later when i get more used to the interface... Can i put html in the write box Too, the others: I know there have been made weapon list.. But there are alot of loose ends and not really any info anbout the weapons.. Some list show that there will be an AK-47 some say AK 101.. Im just trying to tie up the loose ends and make a good relaiable list for us all to enjoy Edited July 16, 2007 by Japp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDP992 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Somebody already made a weapon count, but this one's alot better. It'd be better if you could post it instead of just linking it though. And here is another weapon weapon you can add. funk knows wtf that it, an m4 maybe? i dont know my guns very well, i'm english Well, you can only see the tip of it, and judging from that I don't think its an M4 or M16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJN Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Good work Japp. BTW do you think you'll be able to modify weapons (ala "Hitman")? That would be sweet as hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDP992 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Good work Japp. BTW do you think you'll be able to modify weapons (ala "Hitman")? That would be sweet as hell It hasn't been confirmed, but I'm sure Little Jacob sells guns, ammo, and upgrades. Upgrades worked out great in The Godfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofpeace Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Well, give me credit for this I'm about to tell you: AK-74 Cartridge - 5.45 x 39 mm Bullets initial speed - 900 m/s (~2952 f/s) Muzzle Energy - 1.39 kilojoules Practical Rate of Fire - 600 – 650 rounds/min Magazine Capacity - 30 round detachable box Ingram MAC-11 Cartridge - .380 ACP Bullets initial speed - 950 ft/s Muzzle Energy - 200 ft·lbf Practical Rate of Fire - 1200 RPM Magazine Capacity - 16 or 32 rounds box Colt M4 Cartridge - 5.56 x 45 mm NATO Bullets initial speed - 905 m/s (2,970 ft/s) Practical Rate of Fire - 700–950 round/min Magazine Capacity - 20- or 30-round detachable box magazine/90 rounder drum magazine Sighting Range - ??? Heckler & Koch MP5 A3 Cartridge - 9 × 19 mm Luger, 10 mm Auto, .40 S&W Bullets initial speed - 270 m/s (886 ft/s) Muzzle Energy - 637 joules Practical Rate of Fire - 800 round/min Mazine Capacity - 15- or 30-round detachable box I WANT CREDIT FOR MY RESEARCH, THANK YOU FOR READING. k thnx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJN Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I WANT CREDIT FOR MY RESEARCH, THANK YOU FOR READING. k thnx. Good work. About the Godfather weapons, that was good except how you couldn't go back to the unmodded gun once you'd upgraded. I remember people wanting their old guns back late in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaboobala Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 That's not a mac-11, it's a micro uzi of some sort : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofpeace Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 That's not a mac-11, it's a micro uzi of some sort : There was an entire thread arguing this. I have no idea, I just used what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk_B Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 already been done hasnt it? never really took off, although i think the topic i'm thinking of was just a weopens with list I don't see it here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDP992 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 already been done hasnt it? never really took off, although i think the topic i'm thinking of was just a weopens with list I don't see it here It was there, but it really sucked. Like it didn't have pictures or anything explaining why it's the certain weapon, and he never updated it. And the micro uzi's handle looks too short to be the gun Niko's holding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japp Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 That's not a mac-11, it's a micro uzi of some sort : There was an entire thread arguing this. I have no idea, I just used what he said. Hey i think your right.. I was wondering why they had changed the weapon so much in the game.. But ofcourse it is a israeli micro uzi.. You can clarly see how that fits the in game model better.. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japp Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Good work Japp. BTW do you think you'll be able to modify weapons (ala "Hitman")? That would be sweet as hell I hope/think that you will be able to buy upgrades like, silencers, scope, high capacity magasines (like on the micro uzi), Perhaps even a M203 grande launcer for (what i think is) the M4... But i dont think you will be able to combine different weapons, and take the muzzle of one weapon and the grip from another an screw em togehter as some people in other forum has surgested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japp Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 (edited) Somebody already made a weapon count, but this one's alot better. It'd be better if you could post it instead of just linking it though. And here is another weapon weapon you can add. funk knows wtf that it, an m4 maybe? i dont know my guns very well, i'm english Well, you can only see the tip of it, and judging from that I don't think its an M4 or M16. Well if you look at the sliding stock, it looks like the one of the M4. I used to carry one, when i were in afghanistan, so that one im pretty sure of Edited July 17, 2007 by Japp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORD42prefect Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 frankly i was dissapointed when i saw the same brick like pistol i saw in past gta. i just hope there are other small guns like a six shoter MAGNUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illspirit Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Yea, the MP5 is the Navy A3 version. Proper name would be "MP5 N(A3)." Not only is the Glock probably supposed to be a G17, it's a first or second gen version, as opposed to the third gen version in the photo. But that's just nit-picking. The Kalashnikov appears to be an AK-47 (or one of the other combloc copies) with an ACE folding stock. Like this, only with wood furniture on the front: Everything else seems to be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japp Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Yea, the MP5 is the Navy A3 version. Proper name would be "MP5 N(A3)." Not only is the Glock probably supposed to be a G17, it's a first or second gen version, as opposed to the third gen version in the photo. But that's just nit-picking. The Kalashnikov appears to be an AK-47 (or one of the other combloc copies) with an ACE folding stock. Like this, only with wood furniture on the front: Everything else seems to be correct. Wow, ive never seen that AK-47 model before.. Defetnely a winner.. Do you have a picture of the 1st or 2nd gen G17? And remember the whole post is nit-picking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacn138 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Crossbows and a Cat Flinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japp Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Crossbows and a Cat Flinger Screen is welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDP992 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I don't think anyone's gone over the weapons in the artwork. http://files.gtanet.com/images/3502_gta_iv_artwork_xbox.jpg http://files.gtanet.com/images/3385_gta_iv...lic_shotgun.jpg http://files.gtanet.com/images/3374_gta_iv...work_police.jpg http://files.gtanet.com/images/3373_gta_iv...rk_shootout.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japp Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 I don't think anyone's gone over the weapons in the artwork. http://files.gtanet.com/images/3502_gta_iv_artwork_xbox.jpg http://files.gtanet.com/images/3385_gta_iv...lic_shotgun.jpg http://files.gtanet.com/images/3374_gta_iv...work_police.jpg http://files.gtanet.com/images/3373_gta_iv...rk_shootout.jpg Thats funny, i were just looking over thoes... But ive reached my limit for pictures... Damn pictur limit Ill have to merge some of them.. But look at my mp5 discovery untill then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elias2k2 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Well done thats basically all the weapons we have seen on the trailer. Hopefully they bring back the machine gun from Vice city stories that thing was sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Upgrades worked out great in The Godfather Uhm...They totaly didn`t. But they did work great in Scarface and Hitman. So i`m guessing if R* would add f*ckin internet in game they can add some weapons upgrade. I would like a sweet little desert eagle. The white one like in Counter Strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDP992 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Upgrades worked out great in The Godfather Uhm...They totaly didn`t. But they did work great in Scarface and Hitman. So i`m guessing if R* would add f*ckin internet in game they can add some weapons upgrade. I would like a sweet little desert eagle. The white one like in Counter Strike What was wrong with them? You didn't have to buy them if you didn't want them. Anyway its just our opinions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmons55 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 cool i like the idea, nice to get a taste of the weapons before the game is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-paco Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 They MUST have a Chrome or Black Desert Eagle .50 AE in the game! I just love that gun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manofpeace Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Well, I was expecting the Micro Uzi one to change, seeing as there's been so much controversy about it. Eh, Wikipedia doesn't let me down too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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