LCstuntman Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I'm just gonna copy what the system properties thing says from the control panel. I have a HP Pavillion Intel ® Pentium ® 4 CPU 3.06GHz 3.07 GHz and 960 MB of RAM. Sucks doesn't it? Is there anything I can buy to make it a bit more better? My fan is loud as hell and I couldn't even play San Andreas on it when I tried to install it on my PC. So any suggestions? What's your video card? Pentium 4 isn't very good, but on the GTA IV "PC Performance Tips" forum, there's a thread showing it can still run IV - but barely. 1 GB or RAM is next to nothing if you're looking for anything more than the basic web surfing/email computer. It depends on what you want to use you computer for; do you want to be able to run the latest games on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhenom92 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I believe that it's a ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Series. I want to be able to run a few games, like most GTA games like vice City, San Andreas, maybe even IV. Plus some newer games like Half Life 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, and some other ones, although not many. I basically want a computer that I can use to play a few games, nothing like Crysis, but maybe a Vice City, MW2, IV or something alone those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAdmiester Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Might as well add mine Processor: AMD Athlon II x4 Quad Core 2.6GHz GPU: ATi Radeon 5770, 1GB VRAM, 850MHz (Also has an onboard nVidia 6200 but I obviously don't use that.) RAM: 2GB DDR2 (447MHz I think) HDD: 320GB SATA 7200RPM Motherboard: I think it's a Gigabyte one, not sure what model. OS: Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Monitor/Resolution: 19-inch (1440x900) monitor with a 22-inch (1680x1050) monitor, total resolution 3120x1050. Gotta love ATi Eyefinity Windows Experience Index rating: EDIT: A Radeon Xpress 200 isn't going to get you far AFAIK, GTAIV needs Shader Model 3.0 and the 200 has 2.0, if I remember right. A 1.8GHz dual core is the minimum CPU for IV, so a 3.06 P4 isn't really gonna cut it either. Edited February 12, 2010 by TheAdmiester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhenom92 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 EDIT: A Radeon Xpress 200 isn't going to get you far AFAIK, GTAIV needs Shader Model 3.0 and the 200 has 2.0, if I remember right. A 1.8GHz dual core is the minimum CPU for IV, so a 3.06 P4 isn't really gonna cut it either. I know that the current video card I have won't be able to run IV, let alone San Andreas, but I'm simply wondering what I can buy and install into my current computer to make it have more ram, and let it play some games like I listed above, and hell, even let me play Combat Arms without that much lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCstuntman Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 EDIT: A Radeon Xpress 200 isn't going to get you far AFAIK, GTAIV needs Shader Model 3.0 and the 200 has 2.0, if I remember right. A 1.8GHz dual core is the minimum CPU for IV, so a 3.06 P4 isn't really gonna cut it either. I know that the current video card I have won't be able to run IV, let alone San Andreas, but I'm simply wondering what I can buy and install into my current computer to make it have more ram, and let it play some games like I listed above, and hell, even let me play Combat Arms without that much lag. Unfortunely you will have to upgrade almost everything in your computer You might as well just buy a brand new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhenom92 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 EDIT: A Radeon Xpress 200 isn't going to get you far AFAIK, GTAIV needs Shader Model 3.0 and the 200 has 2.0, if I remember right. A 1.8GHz dual core is the minimum CPU for IV, so a 3.06 P4 isn't really gonna cut it either. I know that the current video card I have won't be able to run IV, let alone San Andreas, but I'm simply wondering what I can buy and install into my current computer to make it have more ram, and let it play some games like I listed above, and hell, even let me play Combat Arms without that much lag. Unfortunely you will have to upgrade almost everything in your computer You might as well just buy a brand new one. Fair enough. I'll see what I'll do. Well, least I still got a pretty good laptop. Thanks man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCstuntman Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 No problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAdmiester Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 EDIT: A Radeon Xpress 200 isn't going to get you far AFAIK, GTAIV needs Shader Model 3.0 and the 200 has 2.0, if I remember right. A 1.8GHz dual core is the minimum CPU for IV, so a 3.06 P4 isn't really gonna cut it either. I know that the current video card I have won't be able to run IV, let alone San Andreas, but I'm simply wondering what I can buy and install into my current computer to make it have more ram, and let it play some games like I listed above, and hell, even let me play Combat Arms without that much lag. Like LC said, it's basically your whole pc that needs upgrading. For example: My PC (specs above, obviously ) gets decent framerates (60-70 indoors, around 40-50 outdoors) on IV with high settings, but it stutters when it's 'streaming' parts of the city, let's say. So for that reason, I lower the drawdistance, not because of FPS, but to reduce resource usage which lowers the stuttering. What I would recommend is: Quad core CPU with at least 2.5GHz (Intel or AMD, people say AMDs can perform faster than Intels with higher clockspeeds than the AMD), Radeon 5xxx Series or nVidia GTX Series - 5750 and 5770 are about on par with the 270 and 275, although the 5xxx has DirectX11 and the GTXs have PhysX, depends on which you would use most. At LEAST 2GB RAM - I have 2GB and it stutters a lot, I'm probably going to gather money and buy another stick or 2 to get it to 4GB. HDD with a decent RPM and cache, 7200RPM and 16MB seem decent enough, but if you can afford an SSD, get that. It's MUCH faster. Last but not least - a motherboard that supports the processor you're getting. A modern Intel CPU will need a LGA775 board (not sure on that one), and a decent AMD chip will need an AM3 board. (Athlon II and Phenom IIs use AM3, the IIs are mainly tri and quad core) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCstuntman Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Like LC said, it's basically your whole pc that needs upgrading. For example: My PC (specs above, obviously ) gets decent framerates (60-70 indoors, around 40-50 outdoors) on IV with high settings, but it stutters when it's 'streaming' parts of the city, let's say. So for that reason, I lower the drawdistance, not because of FPS, but to reduce resource usage which lowers the stuttering. That's exactly what I do. The FPS doesn't change much when going from high to medium (both around 45-ish), but theres way less stuttering on medium. I find medium settings except for high textures run great for me. By the way, here's my rig (really close to yours, Admiester ): Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 630 (2.8 GHz Quad-Core) Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB Motherboard: GigaByte MA770T-UD3P Memory: 4GB Hard Drive: 750GB OS: Windows 7 Case: CoolerMaster Elite 310 mid-tower case (side window, blue neon lights, maximum 120MM fans) What I would recommend is:Quad core CPU with at least 2.5GHz (Intel or AMD, people say AMDs can perform faster than Intels with higher clockspeeds than the AMD), Radeon 5xxx Series or nVidia GTX Series - 5750 and 5770 are about on par with the 270 and 275, although the 5xxx has DirectX11 and the GTXs have PhysX, depends on which you would use most. At LEAST 2GB RAM - I have 2GB and it stutters a lot, I'm probably going to gather money and buy another stick or 2 to get it to 4GB. Good suggestions Phenom, if you want to get a great PC for the best price, you either have to get the parts and build it yourself, or order off a website that lets you customize every single thing and order for a low price. I recommend Cyber Power PC for this, it's where I ordered my PC from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAdmiester Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Never knew there was such a thing as an Athlon 630 - I thought it was Athlon up to 620, then Phenom from 630 up? I was originally going to get a Phenom 965 in my machine (it's a monster, 3.6GHz Quad Core with 8MB L2 cache D:) but I had to get a 620 due to pricing. Let's hope that the next PC I get has at least a 3GHz Quad (maybe even *whatever the name for six is*-core machine! ) By the way, my IV specs are reversed from yours almost, everything full except from textures and detail, both of which are at medium range. I had shadows turned off for a while because of FPS, but it turned out that it was from explosions and gunfights If only it would use the CPU more/use DX11... EDIT: Might as well add my laptop specs as well, it's quite a little beast (it can run Rigs Of Rods which is a VERY CPU intensive simulator) at 130FPS It's an Asus A8S, came out around early 2007. Processor: 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 - Performs at the same speed as a desktop chip when on charge, underclocks it's self for power saving when using battery. GPU: nVidia GeForce 8400 M G, 128MB VRAM, but not sure about clockspeed. RAM: Same as PC. 2GB DDR2 447MHz. HDD: 250GB SATA 7200RPM OS: Windows 7 Enterprise x64, originally came with Vista, that BSOD'ed a lot, so it was downgraded to XP. We decided that was too vulnerable so we put it back to Vista, which then screwed up the Master Boot Record, so it's now on 7 Extra: 1.3MegaPixel Webcam and Bluetooth capability. Edited February 12, 2010 by TheAdmiester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 You have Windows XP x86 with 16GB of RAM?!? Get 64-bit LOL XP64 was not even close to being stable both times I installed it. It wouldn't run any 3d apps, and it would BSOD if I tried to open NVIDIA Control Panel. I'll figure something out soon. I might try to get the Server 2003 Enterprise (Same as XP 32, but supports 32Gb intead of 4gb) kernel and HAL working on XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado Rex Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Why not just get 7? ~ Proud Supporter of the Child's Play Charity! | GTANET + Child's Play ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customkingpimp Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I just have a little amd 9600 x4 black edition at 2.3ghz, 4gb of kingston ram, 640gb wd black, and a ATI radeon 4830 video card with a gateway 22" monitor running on HDMI. it gets the job done for what I need it for Edit, forgot, OCZ 600w PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) Why not just get 7? Way too expensive, and way too long to dowload. They shuold just give it to XBox Live Gold members for free, as both are complete rip-offs price wise. And if I get it to work properly, running XP x86 on ther Server 2003 Enterprise x86 kernel and HAL theoretically could be the most stable Windows operating system to ever be created. I really want to get it working on an early longhorn build. (such as Build 3683) Edited February 13, 2010 by leik oh em jeez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEETSAPRIK Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) When I used XP (32bit) I had no intention of ever switching to vista (or 7) because of all the horror stories I'd heard. Then I bought a new PC and got 8GB of RAM, so I had to switch to 64bit to not see it wasted, and having heard even more horror stories about how completely abysmal XP64 was (especially in terms of compatibility issues), I just bit the bullet and got Vista 64bit. Most stable OS I've ever run. I've only run into one program that wouldn't run on it, and it was one of those thirdparty programs made by one random guy who hadn't updated it in years. IMO, with that hardware it makes no sense to not run a 64bit OS, and running XP 64 bit makes even less sense, assuming running XP64 ever makes sense. (edit) Since I already posted. Intel Core 2 Q9550 @ 2.83GHz 8GB RAM GTX 280 Vista 64 SP2 Not exactly the best out there, but it's more than I need. Edited February 13, 2010 by Sweets PяopagaиdaIиc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 XP 64 isn't all that bad. I had it running on another system just fine for 6 months. It just doesn't seem to like this hardware or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEETSAPRIK Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 XP 64 isn't all that bad. I had it running on another system just fine for 6 months. It just doesn't seem to like this hardware or something... It doesn't like a lot of hardware unfortunately, that's my point. LOL XP64 was not even close to being stable both times I installed it. It wouldn't run any 3d apps, and it would BSOD if I tried to open NVIDIA Control Panel. I'm just saying that these problems almost certainly weren't because you installed a 64bit OS, but because you installed one that they gave up on before they fixed half the problems with it. Even Server 2003 is out of mainstream support, what, this July I think? Anyway, if you don't want to buy an new OS, I can see wanting to save money, I just think that with your current OS your hardware is wasted. I also think that even if you got XP64 (or the other option you mentioned) working, it'd just be a matter of time before you ran into a problem that was fixed on later editions of Windows. Anyway, good luck getting everything working. PяopagaиdaIиc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhenom92 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 (edited) Good suggestions Phenom, if you want to get a great PC for the best price, you either have to get the parts and build it yourself, or order off a website that lets you customize every single thing and order for a low price. I recommend Cyber Power PC for this, it's where I ordered my PC from. Thanks a lot guys. Well I did some researching, and I think I've got the parts and they are all affordable for me, and if I can stick with it, I can get these parts by the end of the year (damn you God of War 3, and Red Dead Redemption!!!). Now, I couldn't find a HDD, although I'm not sure if I really do require it. Ram: Memory Master - 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 DIMM Memory and yes, I made sure it was for a desktop Processor: AMD Phenom ii x2 550 Black Edition. I don't want my computer to be a freaking Nasa computer like some of you guys have so I'd go with this, and the price is affordable for me. Motherboard: ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO - motherboard - ATX - 785G - Socket AM3 It supports the Phenom processor that I want so I suppose it should work and the price is affordable for me on Amazon.com, but do I NEED a credit card ( I'm 14 so I can't have one as far as I'm aware)or is there another way for me to pay for things? Case: I'm not sure on that yet, I may visit a Best Buy or Radioshack around here and see what they may have. So, are those all the components that I need or is there more? I'm not looking for over the top Nasa PC, but a pretty good gaming PC and a fast one too . Edit: Also, my fan is loud as hell. It sounds like it's about to get the RROD (sorry, had to, don't mean any disrespect) and it is pretty annoying. Any fan you guys would recommend to make my computer shut the hell up?! Edited February 16, 2010 by ThePhenom92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leik oh em jeez! Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 What's that supposed to mean? NASA uses the same motherboard as I have in many of their computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 If you are looking at that motherboard Phenon them you need to know its a DDR3 board so you'll need DDR3 ram rather then DDR2. Don't bother with finding a DDR2 motherboard as to be as future-proof as possible you'll certainly want to get DDR3. As for what else you'd need, a hard drive, DVD drive, power supply, and the most important bit of a PC aimed at gaming is a video card. You'd be better off starting a new topic if you intend to get some good advice on a new system build. Anyway I don't think I've posted here since I got my new build so yeah here it goes: Phenom II X4 810 @ 2.6ghz 4GB DDR3 Gigabyte GA-MA785GT-UD3H HD5770 1GB Win7 Home Prenium 64bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAdmiester Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Finally got an extra 2GB for my machine, it's now at 4GB (and yes, I have a 64bit OS) and GTAIV plays much better. I can now get about 50-60FPS at all highest settings (apart from View Distance, that's limited to 41 with the GPU memory and the combination of other GFX settings) and loading times have dropped a lot. It also boosted the Windows Experience Index rating for the memory from 5.5 to 7.1 The only thing that's under 6.9 is the Hard Drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starion Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 So guys, how would you rate my PC? Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 overclocked to 3.6ghzRAM: 4gb DDR3 1600mhz Kingston HyperX Power Supply: Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750 WattGraphics: Two ATI Radeon HD4870 512's in CrossfireMobo: MSI 790FX-GD70Hard Drive 1: 640gb Western Digital Caviar BlueHard Drive 2: 300GB Western DigitalHard Drive 3: 250GB Maxtor Disk Drive 1: SATA Samsung Super Writemaster Lightscribe DVD RWDisk Drive 2: IDE LiteOn Lightscribe DVD RWCase: ThermalTake Spedo AdvanceAt the moment it's only got one 4870, the second should arrive early next week. mod it with Nitrous Oxide and chassis dyno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoječ Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 (edited) -deleted- It was my 666th post by the way. Edited June 4, 2010 by yojo2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo4pheus Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) Windows 7 Ultimate Proc - AMD Phenom 9850 BE @2.5 Cooling - Zalman CNPS7500-ALCU LED GPHX - Nvidia GTS 250 1gig RAM - 6 Gigs DDR2 800 PSU - BFG 650 Watt Storage SATA - 40 Gig WD - 360 Gig WD - 750 Gig WD - total space 1TB + Media - DVD/RW Drive Monitor - LG 21" With Resolution @ 1600*900 Case - Thermaltake V3 Black Edition 5.1 Off board Surround Sound (NOT EXACT - Similar to this one Edited September 7, 2010 by Mo4pheus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Sugar Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 im not sure how good my computer is: Dell Inspiron 546 AMD Phenom II X3 710 processor (2.60 GHz) 400 GB ram Windows 7 premium 64-bit OS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cursed Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 400 GB ram Damn thats impressive. I've never seen anybody have more than 16-32GB of RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo4pheus Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 400 GB ram Damn thats impressive. I've never seen anybody have more than 16-32GB of RAM It's that new server they have out - you know, the one that holds like 8 cores....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james227uk Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 400gb RAM? I could do with that. While my laptop is out for repairs I'm stuck with a half ancient computer with 320mb RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareed Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I got: Intel i7 930 processor 500gb HD with additional 1TB portable HD 8 gb DDR3 Ram Ati Radeon HD 5970 Graphics card Windows 7 Ultimate Gigabyte x58 UD5 motherboard all this packed In CM690 nvidia edition cabinet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcis_speed6 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 windows 7 rates your pc, just go to my computer> properties my sh*tty notebook is rated as 3,3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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