JoeyLeone25 Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Personally, I had 114-113 to Hopkins, and that despite the entertainment, was one of the worst fights of Joe's career. He didn't acknowledge Hopkins tactics and try to work around them till the seventh and by then, he had to give everything, which thankfully slightly went in his favour due to Bernard's lack of stamina (however Joe didn't exactly look full of energy!). Never mind the fact he never used his jab against Hopkins until the later rounds, and that was shown instantly to be one of his strong points. Jab at arms length, draw Bernard into a mistake, then work him on the inside. I'm not going to lie, I supported Joe through-out the fight, but for me it came down to the judges/fans in Vegas enjoying a fighter who comes forward and throws plenty of punches (in the latter half of the fight, Joe threw more punches than any fight in his career apparently). As I had the fight split, with only the knock-down of Joe in the first (H 10, C 8 R1) making it go in Bernard's favour. Anyway, he won, it wasn't pretty, it wasn't easy, but Joe Calzaghe has beat a living legend, and now I hope he takes on Kelly Pavlik. I'd love to see Calzaghe vs Jones Jr, but I honestly think despite many thinking Jones Jr is past it, I reckon he'd still be able to take Calzaghe to school. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1057859403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NedStark Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hahaha I'm watching the fight now (recorded and I already know the winner) and I just saw Calzaghe rubbing it in when BHOP went down after the bodyshot, 'giving it to him'. Then BHOP has the nerve to play that off like a cheap shot getting those precious seconds. I'm always rooting for my Americans, but BHOP is a walking clinch and a dirty fighter. Actually after watching it that was a suspect low blow, not too low though. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1057868390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiDkr@zY Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Anyway, he won, it wasn't pretty, it wasn't easy, but Joe Calzaghe has beat a living legend, and now I hope he takes on Kelly Pavlik. I'd love to see Calzaghe vs Jones Jr, but I honestly think despite many thinking Jones Jr is past it, I reckon he'd still be able to take Calzaghe to school. I would have to agree, as soon as I heard talk of Calzaghe wanting Jones Jr. I thought the same thing. As you say, yes he is past it but i think he would still destroy him. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1057882665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyVercetti. Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Jones will mop the floor with him. See what surprised me is Jones really doesn't have a style. He basically overwhelms his opponents with really unorthodox strikes and moves and taunts them and gets them worked up. I figured he'd lose some of that with age and being out the ring but I'm not skeptical anymore. I just hope he doesn't get whooped by some young gun at his prime... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1057891470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightcreeper Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 u motherf*ckers are stupid if u think cotto is going to beat floyd lol Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1057891914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrocodileDundee Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 u motherf*ckers are stupid if u think cotto is going to beat floyd lol Cotto can't beat Floyd because Floyd refuses to fight him. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1057895421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attorney General Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 u motherf*ckers are stupid if u think cotto is going to beat floyd lol We appreciate your candor. Thanks for that. But Croc is right, Floyd wants no part of Cotto right now. So my new shrink tells me it's finally ok to talk about the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight. It's difficult, so bear with me. Anyhow, I also had the fight 114-113 for Hopkins. I thought he controlled the first five rounds with his lead right and sound counter punching. His timing was brilliant and his awkward style and elusiveness seemed to confuse Joe...at least in the early stages of the fight. I felt like the tide turned in the sixth round. Joe picked up the pace and found his rhythm. It was relatively smooth sailing for his from then on. The only other round I gave top Hopkins was the round where he faked the low blow injury and then battled back after a quick rest. I detected some overacting, but hey, he clearly needed a breather. Bernard's always been a crafty old bastard. So at the end of 12...my scorecard was in a stalemate at six rounds apiece...but with the slight edge going to Hopkins because he scored that knockdown in the first. The fight was close. And despite my feelings that Hopkins did enough to retain his title...I won't fight this one. The thing that impressed me most about Calzaghe that night wasn't that he landed as many punches as he did...but that he landed more than a few clean shots on Bernard. And that's far from a regular occurrence. Hell of a fight either way. Always a pleasure to see two future Hall of Famers bang it out. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1057905187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning-Ice Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 u motherf*ckers are stupid if u think cotto is going to beat floyd lol Thanks for the insightful information, but since you did mention this fight, I would think that Cotto is the only person near Floyd's weightclass which can give Floyd his toughest fight and perhaps defeat him. Floyd is the best in executing his gameplanning and is the BEST at adapting to fighters. After 3-4 rounds, he usually knows what to do and what do change in order to achieve victory. With Cotto, you have a superb body puncher with the chance to end the fight at anytime with the left hook to the liver (brutal really..) but has also shown pretty good boxing skills and a nice jab but I'm not quite sure how "good" he would look against someone of Floyd's stature. Floyd needs to be on his toes the entire time and Cotto's best shot is wearing down Floyd, which is quite difficult to accomplish. My pick, Floyd by hardfought decision. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1057954110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raresh_r Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 i bump into this. there is the boxing champion sheep in my town. last year i watched them but now i don't have time. i was a boxer but because of school i didn't had time to go for practice Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058254276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrocodileDundee Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 now since this is bumped again I might as well post a vid of me boxing. What do you think? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058254358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attorney General Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 Lookin' sharp, my friend! One thing though that I think you can correct in your form. You may have heard of it already...it's called the "Bow and Arrow". A lot of fighters do it...pros even. But it's something you'll want to avoid making a habit of. When you shoot out your left jab, you occasionally(and probably inadvertently) pull your right hand back a few inches. It exposes your chin...if only for an instant. Other than that, I'd say you look pretty solid all around. I like the way you step into your jab. Often times guys will just throw it out there to set up their right hand...but sound boxers know that a good stiff jab is an important weapon. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058274148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flitcroft101 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Khan v Gomez now Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058276799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 I'm watching the Khan fight right now. Gomez seems like a total joke. He's wearing a poncho for Gods sake. Oh God, Mexico Man got knocked down in round one. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058276804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flitcroft101 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 (edited) wow really fast, khan is so powerful. Gomez doesn't look like he's gonna last. khan down, holy sh*t. edit: khan wins, Gomez has alot of heart. Edited June 21, 2008 by flitcroft101 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058276807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhus Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 It's over. Khan won, personally I think that the ref made the right choice. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058276859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicko Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Judging by that fight alone, I'm not convinced in any way that Khan is a World title contender. He's young, and he needs to work extremely hard and needs to mature to win the ultimate fight. Yes he's got the speed, and the power, as well as tremendous agility, and a great backing group might I add. But judging by today's fight, he needs to get it right mentally. Gomez was out for a street fight, and Khan seemed to relucantly accept, which is stupid. He didn't fight the way we've come used to, and just went along with the match, following from what Gomez' tactics were. He needs to sort it out. Having said all that, he did grind the win out, which is, obviously, edging him closer to the top, albeit with a few stumbles along the way. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058276901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyLeone25 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I'm watching the Khan fight right now. Gomez seems like a total joke. He's wearing a poncho for Gods sake. Oh God, Mexico Man got knocked down in round one. Gomez isn't a joke, the simple fact of the matter is; he's a brawler, not a boxer. He uses his chin as his shield as he throws ferocious left and right hooks that usually either knock the opponent flat on their arse, or tire him out so badly the opposition take it upon themselves to do the right thing and knock him flat-out onto the canvas. I can kind of see why Warren gave this fight to Khan, as he's trying to push him against fighters that have contrasting styles to Amir's own (Gomez is a brawler who stands toe-to-toe, while Khan is a quick fighter who uses the pace and space of the ring to move around in), but again he needs a bigger challenge. Nearly 20 fights into his Professional Career and he's fought one decent opponent so far, and unfortunately for Amir the competition at World Title level is a big step up from the fighters he's engaging now in his career. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058277127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrocodileDundee Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Lookin' sharp, my friend! One thing though that I think you can correct in your form. You may have heard of it already...it's called the "Bow and Arrow". A lot of fighters do it...pros even. But it's something you'll want to avoid making a habit of. When you shoot out your left jab, you occasionally(and probably inadvertently) pull your right hand back a few inches. It exposes your chin...if only for an instant. Other than that, I'd say you look pretty solid all around. I like the way you step into your jab. Often times guys will just throw it out there to set up their right hand...but sound boxers know that a good stiff jab is an important weapon. Thanks , I just got one of these floor to ceiling bags I will be practising on. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058282704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeTi Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Oh God, Mexico Man got knocked down in round one. Lol Mexico Man. Anyway, Gomez is a has been, he's an old fighter and although he had experience on his side, Khan, being the younger, fitter, fighter was always going to win. If Gomez had gone up against Khan at his peak Khan wouldn't have stood a chance. I don't like Khan one bit, I think he's pretty much a no-one who Frank Warren is bulling up to be something bigger than he is so he can make a few more million pounds. Don't get me wrong, Khan can box, but there is not a chance he's a World class fighter. A National, or even a Commonwealth (yes I'm aware he has that belt), but not a World Champion. He's been put up against people who frankly stood no chance, and Warren knows this and is just abusing it. Had Khan tried to make it on his own, without Warren; we'd be seeing him every now and again as an under card to other fights, and rarely if ever as the main contender. I'm guessing seeing as the Khan fight was the last major discussion here that no-one has mentioned the splitting of Joe Calzaghe and Frank Warren? Anyone think there's a little more to it than just a contract ending? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058297497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attorney General Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 I'm guessing seeing as the Khan fight was the last major discussion here that no-one has mentioned the splitting of Joe Calzaghe and Frank Warren? Anyone think there's a little more to it than just a contract ending? I read somewhere that Warren wanted to put Calzaghe in against Kelly Pavlik next...but Calzaghe preferred to fight Roy Jones instead. Though there may be more than meets the eye as I heard the split was far from amicable. Also, Pacman vs. David Diaz should be a banger. It's on PPV tomorrow. My guess is that Diaz will keep it close for a bit...but Pacquiao finishes him inside ten rounds. @Croc, those f*ckers are tough to get used to...but it should be great for your hand-eye coordination. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058299128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrocodileDundee Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 @Croc, those f*ckers are tough to get used to...but it should be great for your hand-eye coordination. Yeah I just got it up, I'm boxing it quite simple and loose. just doing 1-2's all the time. Any tips on how do use it properly? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058300296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cesar_VLA Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Cotto vs Margarito I think this match is gonna be a good one. Personally, I'm a big Margarito Fan, but I got to give this one to cotto. Cotto Tko over Margarito What do you guys think? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058391426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrocodileDundee Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 (edited) Cotto vs Margarito I think this match is gonna be a good one. Personally, I'm a big Margarito Fan, but I got to give this one to cotto. Cotto Tko over Margarito What do you guys think? I am a fan of neither and I just hope it will be a good fight. Cotto is the more skilled and talented boxer and I think about the same as you do, Cotto by TKO / KO in the later rounds. Edit: How wrong I was, Margarito TKO 11 over Cotto Edited July 27, 2008 by CrocodileDundee Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058391614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyLeone25 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I never expected Margarito to get knocked out/down, as the kid has an iron chin that can take a lot of punishment, but I must admit, I was predicting a Cotto victory on points. However Margarito gave Miguel everything he had and showed everybody that he can compete with the big-boys of the Welter division. Still was a great fight though, and Bert Sugar called it as the fight of the century so far! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058398385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrocodileDundee Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 just thought I'd put up a vid of me boxing on the floor to ceiling bag. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058408621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeTi Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 So Khan has been handed his first defeat. Knocked out in under 1 minute (54 seconds) by Breidis Prescott. It made my day seeing it, people are finally starting to realise that Khan isn't the unbeatable super boxer everyone is bulling him up to be, although it was annoying that the commentators all commented on how it was lucky punches and mistakes by Khan that caused his knock out rather than the skill of Prescott. Not that Prescott is that skilled IMO, he's just more skilled than Khan, well a harder puncher more than anything. But some of the punches were precisly placed, they either avoided or broke through Khan's guard perfectly, he's also proved that Khan has a glass chin, it took less than a dozen punches before he was down and out, he was visibly shook by the first one, every punch Prescott threw rocked Khan. I'm also a bit annoyed with the ref, the fact that he didn't call the fight off earlier, after the first knock down Khan jumped straight back up, but he staggered back a few feet and nearly fell over again, he was in no fit state to carry on, it was obvious what was coming. Prescott then jumped on him and down he went, Khan tried to get up, but his legs wouldn't carry him, the ref should have called it off then, but he waited for the count. I suppose it does give Prescott a KO over a TKO though. I am curious as to what Khan is going to be doing next, no doubt he's now realised that he isn't as good as he thinks he is, and I doubt he'll ever fully recover from this. Another problem I can see is that Prescott is a similar age to Khan, similar body size/weight, similar fight record and they both turned pro in the same year. Khan will always have Prescott in the way if he ever wants to become the world champion he thinks he is. I'm thinking he'll try to change weight group, but I doubt he'll recover from this defeat. I wish I'd recorded the fight now, one of the last punches that Prescott threw kept getting shown in the fight, he turned Khan's face into jelly, everything shook for a few seconds, including the ear, I'd love that as an avatar for a few weeks. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058521473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dills Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 For those of you that missed it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058521541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muscularmatt Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 i'm absolutely shocked. don't get me wrong, i didn't think khan was as untouchable as he has been billed as being, but i didn't expect that. absolutely levelled him. we all know prescott has power and aggression, but it was hardly like he came out screaming - it was very calm and controlled. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058521735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBillyB Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 fair do's hes got a punch on him. i said in the pub beforehand that it will be a 3 round fight, but a minuet!! glad i didnt pay £15 to watch that crap! when he got back uup the first time he looked like me walking home on friday night. i hope this is going to be a huge lesson for him and the public who thought he was unstopable!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058521815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyLeone25 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 I've been saying it for months. Get Khan in with a half-decent fighter and he'll falter at the first hurdle. Not that Khan isn't a bad, he's quick, technically superb when striking to the body and has a high fitness rate, but when you throw Cambridge United at Man Utd after they've only played Worksop Town, Ilkeston and Accrington Stanley there's sure to be tears. Now one of Khan's main weaknesses was his chin, it's all well and good being able to throw quick punches, but if you can't get your hands back to your chin quick enough then that's a huge weakness which can be exploited and most importantly result in a knock-out (re: see Khan's knockdown). Also some conditioning training wouldn't go a miss for Amir, especially since it only takes a few well-placed punches from a semi-decent fighter and he's rattled (and potentially down on the canvas). Not to take anything away from Prescott though, he's a dangerous fighter and did the job he said he'd do. He was on the front foot for most of the one-minute fight, looking to be the aggressor and throw more punches than Khan, and the first knock-down for me was a work of boxing art. A jab straight through Amir's guard which rattled him a little then a huge right, followed by a massive left to the cheek/chin. Beautiful. Hopefully Amir will bounce back though, because he's only a young kid and he has a lot of promise to be a great fighter. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/285392-boxing-discussion/page/4/#findComment-1058522288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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