GTA IV for PC

[james_root]

read an article from pcmag that take two made the decision as to not continue the series on the pc. since then i've been saving up.

It's like this:

 

 

(if Rockstar did say what you say you've read)

 

 

 

2006/7 - Rockstar announce that GTA IV will be released on XBox 360 and PS3

 

-- during this time period, Rockstar will deny that a PC version will ever be released, thus improving console sales --

 

October 2007 - GTA IV is released on XBox 360 and PS3

 

2007/8 - Rockstar announce that GTA IV will be released on PC

 

June 2008 - GTA IV is released on PC

 

-- during this time period, Microsoft, Sony, and the millions (and millions) of console fanboys, pull out the tissues and begin to cry --

 

2008/9/10 - Rockstar announce the next "exclusive" GTA IV game, allowing the cry-baby console fanboys to mop-up the tears, and begin their "next-gen" rantings yet again. All the while, PC gamers sit there, reading (and listening to) the senseless garbage as it unfolds.

totaly agreed

[DeathSergeant]

15% said no? The 15% of people who said GTA IV wouldn't come out on the PC are mad. Or are you not? Well, post a reply of why you think it won't. And no stupid reasons. No1 here wants to read total minge-baggery crap.

[gta-evo4]

I voted before, and again, yes it comes to pc; but my worries are about the hardware specs.

Could someone tell or "predict" so far seen in both trailers, what kind of pc would it require?

Ps: Msoft, i move to vista for that game, it's a good deal Mr Gates$, isn't it?

[ajb123644]

read an article from pcmag that take two made the decision as to not continue the series on the pc. since then i've been saving up.

What you probably read was simply a article talking about the chance or possibility that Rockstar and Take2 may shy away from PC games not the confirmation of it. I've read similar articles since the whole Hot Coffee scandal and its a common discussion amongst PC gamers.

Yeah this guys has a point. Rockstar in the past have confirmed suspisions that have been floating around the internet if they are not correct. Rockstar so far hasnt done so. My guess is that because of that they will be releasing it on the pc for us pc gamers!

[algenon_iii]

IIRC some 360 fanboy was saying that gears of war wouldn't or couldn't come to the PC. Well the PC version has been announced http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;1315705836

 

Cliff Blezinski (creator of Gears of War) has also been telling journalists that the game is coming to Windows XP.

 

It's due out this summer at somepoint.

[krashdown]

so what can we expect the specs to be, to run GTA IV

[DML]

so what can we expect the specs to be, to run GTA IV

Probably the same as S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl...maybe a bit less. That is, for the final PC version -- with the higher-resolution textures, models etc, and longer draw-distances.

[krashdown]

Yeah that sounds ok my PC is just lacking in the ram (1gig) department and the video card (7600) and is a 4200 Amd so its just within the specs of that game

Edited July 13, 2007 by krashdown

[CharmingCharlie]

15% said no? The 15% of people who said GTA IV wouldn't come out on the PC are mad.

I don't think we should crucify those that voted No in the poll. Personally I think it is a reflection of the loss of faith in Rockstar. Since they released a half arsed GTA SA on the PC they have done NOTHING on the PC.

 

I have to admit I have my doubts, not because the PC can't handle GTA 4 or any rubbish like that, but simple because Rockstar are not the developers they used to be. Rockstar have become total console whores now, all they seem intent on doing is going "please MS and Sony do us one more time".

 

So I voted yes in the poll, but i can understand why people voted no. However at the end of the day I will get to play GTA 4 on the PC or NOT AT ALL. I simply refuse to be dictated too by a company.

[DML]

However at the end of the day I will get to play GTA 4 on the PC or NOT AT ALL. I simply refuse to be dictated too by a company.

Exactly the reason why I, and no-doubt many others, will never get to play Liberty City Stories or Vice City Stories. Which is a shame really, because they'd be so easy to port to PC, and bring in a few million dollars with.

[Raymond Luxury-Yacht]

Exactly the reason why I, and no-doubt many others, will never get to play Liberty City Stories or Vice City Stories. Which is a shame really, because they'd be so easy to port to PC, and bring in a few million dollars with.

That's how I was thinking----until it dawned upon me that I could borrow a friend's PS2 for a couple of weeks. Highly recommended!

[james_root]

so what can we expect the specs to be, to run GTA IV

Probably the same as S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl...maybe a bit less. That is, for the final PC version -- with the higher-resolution textures, models etc, and longer draw-distances.

i wish specs would be like stalkers but i don't think so.

[LuvU]

read an article from pcmag that take two made the decision as to not continue the series on the pc. since then i've been saving up.

What you probably read was simply a article talking about the chance or possibility that Rockstar and Take2 may shy away from PC games not the confirmation of it. I've read similar articles since the whole Hot Coffee scandal and its a common discussion amongst PC gamers.

Hopefully you're right but what I remember reading was "definitely not on the PC". The reason WAS because of the hot coffee ordeal. So this guy Ben Fader (spelling?) CEO of Take-two goes on talking about how they were concerned about what modifications gamers WOULD do to GTA4. They were concerned that something similar would happen again or something worse and that would lead to unwanted controversy and then from there another lawsuit.

 

I can't find the article but it was on pcmag.com last month, hopefully they changed there view on things and had it taken down.

 

Keep in mind, Ben Fader (sp?) has been the CEO of Take-two interactive since March 2007. This is not the same guy that released GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas on the PC.

 

Also Rockstar has not had a say in this.

[DML]

 

read an article from pcmag that take two made the decision as to not continue the series on the pc. since then i've been saving up.

What you probably read was simply a article talking about the chance or possibility that Rockstar and Take2 may shy away from PC games not the confirmation of it. I've read similar articles since the whole Hot Coffee scandal and its a common discussion amongst PC gamers.

Hopefully you're right but what I remember reading was "definitely not on the PC". The reason WAS because of the hot coffee ordeal. So this guy Ben Fader (spelling?) CEO of Take-two goes on talking about how they were concerned about what modifications gamers WOULD do to GTA4. They were concerned that something similar would happen again or something worse and that would lead to unwanted controversy and then from there another lawsuit.

 

I can't find the article but it was on pcmag.com last month, hopefully they changed there view on things and had it taken down.

 

Keep in mind, Ben Fader (sp?) has been the CEO of Take-two interactive since March 2007. This is not the same guy that released GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas on the PC.

 

Also Rockstar has not had a say in this.

Rockstar just have to know (and hopefully they're smart enough to) that this time, they better not leave any immature sex-related mini-games in the code, because it will be found, and they will get the same publicity that they got last time.

 

People can make whatever mods they want, but when undisclosed, offensive content is left in the shipped-release of a game by the developer, it becomes a recipe for disaster.

Edited July 13, 2007 by DML

[Lazarust800]

Dudes GTA 4 is COMING for the PC, i know it (from inside), you will see in a few months, be patient.....

 

 

 

GTA 4 - PC DVD_ROM.....coming soon.

[free_to_view]

Wasn't the "HOT COFFEE" thing was first found on the PS2 console?????

 

If it was first found on the PS2 or console, then it doesn't justify not bringing out the PC version of GTA4.

 

We all know that GTA4 is coming out for the consoles first , all they have to do is port it to the PC version without changing the CORE BITS that make the game up. All they need to do is change the controls and other things thats not linked to the consoles and to add it for the PC version. No need to change the code for the main game.

Edited July 13, 2007 by free_to_view

[DML]

This is a bit off the current direction of this thread, but I made this signature, but the file size is too large for regular use, so I thought I'd link to it here.

 

It gives a quick summary on the history of GTA, for those who may not know.

 

Extemely-brief History of GTA

[Crokey]

We all know that GTA4 is coming out for the consoles first , all they have to do is port it to the PC version without changing the CORE BITS that make the game up. All they need to do is change the controls and other things thats not linked to the consoles and to add it for the PC version. No need to change the code for the main game.

Well with this (outta-date) generation of consoles sharing a lot of coding and principles of the PC, the 'porting' process should be a lot smoother and easier than the previous generation. The only problem is that PC's have a huge variation of configurations which is the main problem with PC's, or should I say the only problem with PC's other than that PC's > Consoles (That's what you call Fanboy bait).

 

That's why these days you are getting more and more multi-platform releases of games, and usually the PC version is the best version, becuase they've given it a little more attention, which is good for PC gamers.

 

@DML: I like it

[aidan87]

I don't have to worry about system spec's .. my 8800 GTX rig would run it perfectly.

But I still have the worst fear that it wont show up to PC , I hope im wrong .. I pray for it. Also I prefer playing on PC rather than game console , its easier and more fun. I dont like any game console .. I dont believe in them .. the 360 is a perfect example for what im talking about , broken ass piece of crap that breaks after u play with it few hours .. and that over priced plastic sh*t PS3.

[CharmingCharlie]

 

It gives a quick summary on the history of GTA, for those who may not know.

 

Extemely-brief History of GTA

love the animated .gif DML, it nicely sums up what has happened with Rockstar and their console paymasters. It is incredibly aggravating when you see Sony's attitude to GTA 4 this generation (probably sour grapes on Sony's part).

 

 

the 'porting' process should be a lot smoother and easier than the previous generation

 

Bang on Gareth Croke it would be ludicrously easy to port GTA 4 from the 360 to the PC, since they both use more or less the same Direct x API's, the only slightly tricky bit would be bringing the game code from the power pc to the intel architecture. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for porting games from the PS3 to the PC that is a complete nightmare thanks to Sony's decison to shove such a specialised hacked to pieces processor in the PS3.

 

I think that is where some of my worries lie, the PS3 requires an incredible amount of development work just to get anything useful out of it. Last generation there were enough resources to go round the 3 systems out there xbox/ps2/pc. This generation games cost more to make and Sony have made their console impossibly hard to program for. So my main worry is Rockstar will just ditch the PC and concentrate their efforts on the 360/PS3.

[gta-evo4]

Would a [email protected], 640mb 8800gts, 2gb ram run fine the game?

Look at cmr dirt(poor optimized) insane requirements.

I'm a bit worried.

[Crokey]

 

Would a [email protected], 640mb 8800gts, 2gb ram run fine the game?

Look at cmr dirt(poor optimized) insane requirements.

I'm a bit worried. 

Considering an XBox or a Playstation 3 is about half of that in some departments you should'nt have a problem.

 

 

Look at cmr dirt(poor optimized) insane requirements.

 

Don't get what you mean by that bit though

[nlitement]

Would a [email protected], 640mb 8800gts, 2gb ram run fine the game?

Look at cmr dirt(poor optimized) insane requirements.

I'm a bit worried.

Err.. DiRT runs fine on my X1950 Pro/C2D/1GB system. GTA IV will probably have slightly higher requirements than Hitman Blood Money/NFSC did (similar graphics, TBH).

[CharmingCharlie]

 

Look at cmr dirt(poor optimized) insane requirements.

 

Don't get what you mean by that bit though [/font][/color]

He is on about the racing game called "Dirt" by codemasters. The game runs fine on high settings and 1280 x 1024 res, get about 40fps on my Duo 2 Core 2.4ghz with 8800GTS 320mb card. However if you stick the graphics of Dirt onto ULTRA, man it drops to an astonishing 2fps.

 

However I believe the ultra setting has even better textures than the 360 version and realistically you shouldn't try the ULTRA setting in Dirt unless you have an 8800gtx card. But he does have a point Dirt is horribly done, hell it was like the PC was running a damn 360 emulator.

 

If you have a highend 7000 card or a midrange 8000 card you will have no problems running GTA 4, as long as Rockstar does their job properly, but then that is another question

[gta-evo4]

Dirt runs fine on my system too, but gta4 pc is "coming" june 08, would i need an upgrade?

[CharmingCharlie]

Dirt runs fine on my system too, but gta4 pc is "coming" june 08, would i need an upgrade?

Let me put it this way, I just built a new PC on a budget :-

 

Nvidia 8800gts, 320mb

Duo 2 Vore, 2.4ghz

1gb low latency ram

 

Now the only part of that I expect to upgrade is the memory, 1gb is just scraping by these days. If Rockstar cannot get GTA 4 to run at a decent speed in those specs, then quite simply they should just give up programming all together.

 

You have to remember the next gen consoles are not fantastic, the PS3 has a damn 7800gt card in it and the 360 has a slightly better ATI 1950 card in it. Don't mention the cpu's yes they are technically faster but they are severely restricted so they are not much of a match against duo 2 core cpu's. As always we will have to wait and see, but at the moment my PC has not come across a single console game it can't play and usually it is only using ONE core.

[aidan87]

Hey , let me guess..

3Ghz single core or Core 2 duo ( E6300 should be good )

1.5GB Ram or higher

a good high end card with 256 VRAM or higher ( geforce 7800 or radeon x1900 )

Now thats just a guess .. but to me its likely that this will be the recommended spec's. what do ya think ?

[gta-evo4]

Hey , let me guess..

3Ghz single core or Core 2 duo ( E6300 should be good )

1.5GB Ram or higher

a good high end card with 256 VRAM or higher ( geforce 7800 or radeon x1900 )

Now thats just a guess .. but to me its likely that this will be the recommended spec's. what do ya think ?

That sounds fair.

I think 7900, 1900 highend or dx10 equivalent and 2gb ram.

Mmm...what if it is vista only?

[cheater-CJ]

i wonder when it comes out if someones going to make a map mod for san andreas i would love to see something like that!!!!!!!!!

 

[Crokey]

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I think 7900, 1900 highend or dx10 equivalent and 2gb ram.

Mmm...what if it is vista only?

1Gb of RAM should be sufficient for the Game and as for being Vista only, it depends on the proposed release date, although I think due to the fact there isn't such a large base of Console owners (compared to the previous 3 titles on the previous generation), they will want as much sales as possible, hence my belief they will release a PC version. But Vista isn't doing too well on the sales and reputation front and with many computer suppliers reverting back to offering XP with their new systems leads me to believe that it will be XP Minimum, hence DirectX 9 being the minimum, if anything it wouldn't surprise me if they released another update to DX9c and made a DX9d, but that's all swings a roundabouts.

 

@cheater-CJ: They could, but it might be hard as the whole coding system behind GTA:IV is a brand new system, as compared to III, Vice City and San Andreas which were an evolution of the GTAIII system/engine. So it would require building the whole map from scratch and as yet it's still being argued over what size the new Liberty City map is, so you might only get Los Santos within the map boundaries.