GTA IV for PC

[Philljc]

But can that pc go 5 years without an upgrade?

 

Even a 9800gx2 is going to struggle with next gen console ports.

Erm can you please show me what you are basing that on ? Let me see if I have got this straight you are saying the 360 with a X1900XT eqivulent gpu and the PS3 with a 7800GTX eqivulent GPU can beat a 9800GX2 !!!!!!

 

You just have to look at the real evidence. Let's just look at COD 4 on the consoles it is :-

 

1024 x 600 with 2 x AA @ 60fps (upscaled to 720p)

 

On my two PC's :-

 

Media PC - 1280 x 800 with 2 x AA @ 60 - 70fps

 

Game PC - 1680 x 1040 with 4 x AA @ 80fps

 

So please tell me why you think that a 9800gx2 would struggle when current cards are not so much struggling as laughing at the console ports.

 

If that isn't enough for you we could look at Mass Effect which is having the graphics IMPROVED for the PC version. How about we look at Crysis on the PC which is rumoured to be coming to the PS3 but at best the graphics will be eqivulent to Medium (my gaming PC can run the game on HIGH settings). Really please show us some evidence that the consoles can even beat an 8000 series card, let alone a 9000 series card.

Hes basing it on what he thinks he knows. I wouldn't worry so much about what the 12 year olds think. They have no real grasp of how things work, or of technology. PC's will always, whether you like it or not, be more powerful than any console. What kind of parts do you even think consoles are made from? They are only optimised to play games, thats it. And if a game dosnt work well on PC, its generally because the developer got lazy on the port. I have a 360, a ps3 and a high end PC so im not siding up on anything, im just explaining facts. And id rather keep paying for upgrades anyday and game on PC all the time if it had all the games, because for my enjoyment on it the money is well worth it. Much like the differences with COD4 on consoles > PC. The graphics are so sh*t with such a low res, PC beats consoles out everytime.

[Jops]

Let me get my nerd on here:

 

Its fair to say that a console gamer segregates their computer functions (internet, word processing) and gaming functions (360 or PS3)

 

As far as I am aware an xbox360 and a PS3 are worth about 300-400 dollars seperatly (please correct me if I'm wrong), and a basic functionality computer will be about 300-400 dollars as-well. Now the basic 300-400 dollar computer will last forever assuming its not bogged down too much by spyware and viruses and the gaming consoles are non-upgradeable and destined to be obsolete (so, 5 year capacity from release) and both have been out for three years or so.

 

 

a pc gamer has contained functions of computer usage and gaming in one unit. Not much difference there. A Dual-core PC (equivalent to consoles) with a cheap DX10 card like the 8800gt should cost about 750-850 dollars (without a monitor). In some cases a quad-core pc can sell for the same price.

 

 

So, Console gamer pays 600-800 dollars for computer and gaming functions (not including a television\monitor)

 

and a Pc Gamer, pays 750-850 for computer and gaming fonctions (not including a monitor)

 

So who has the better deal? Assuming my logic is sound, the PC gamer has the better value since they are paying the same price for a better performing setup.

Edited April 21, 2008 by Jops

[Buster23]

 

But can that pc go 5 years without an upgrade?

 

Even a 9800gx2 is going to struggle with next gen console ports.

Erm can you please show me what you are basing that on ? Let me see if I have got this straight you are saying the 360 with a X1900XT eqivulent gpu and the PS3 with a 7800GTX eqivulent GPU can beat a 9800GX2 !!!!!!

 

You just have to look at the real evidence. Let's just look at COD 4 on the consoles it is :-

 

1024 x 600 with 2 x AA @ 60fps (upscaled to 720p)

 

On my two PC's :-

 

Media PC - 1280 x 800 with 2 x AA @ 60 - 70fps

 

Game PC - 1680 x 1040 with 4 x AA @ 80fps

 

So please tell me why you think that a 9800gx2 would struggle when current cards are not so much struggling as laughing at the console ports.

 

If that isn't enough for you we could look at Mass Effect which is having the graphics IMPROVED for the PC version. How about we look at Crysis on the PC which is rumoured to be coming to the PS3 but at best the graphics will be eqivulent to Medium (my gaming PC can run the game on HIGH settings). Really please show us some evidence that the consoles can even beat an 8000 series card, let alone a 9000 series card.

360 is current gen.

 

You wrote all that without thinking I might be talking about the next crop of consoles?

 

$500 6800 ultra was outperformed ony 1 1/2 years when the 360 launched.

 

Considering the next console is 2-3 years away it could easily have a gpu much faster than anything currently available.

 

Gotta draw a picture for some people.

[Philljc]

 

But can that pc go 5 years without an upgrade?

 

Even a 9800gx2 is going to struggle with next gen console ports.

Erm can you please show me what you are basing that on ? Let me see if I have got this straight you are saying the 360 with a X1900XT eqivulent gpu and the PS3 with a 7800GTX eqivulent GPU can beat a 9800GX2 !!!!!!

 

You just have to look at the real evidence. Let's just look at COD 4 on the consoles it is :-

 

1024 x 600 with 2 x AA @ 60fps (upscaled to 720p)

 

On my two PC's :-

 

Media PC - 1280 x 800 with 2 x AA @ 60 - 70fps

 

Game PC - 1680 x 1040 with 4 x AA @ 80fps

 

So please tell me why you think that a 9800gx2 would struggle when current cards are not so much struggling as laughing at the console ports.

 

If that isn't enough for you we could look at Mass Effect which is having the graphics IMPROVED for the PC version. How about we look at Crysis on the PC which is rumoured to be coming to the PS3 but at best the graphics will be eqivulent to Medium (my gaming PC can run the game on HIGH settings). Really please show us some evidence that the consoles can even beat an 8000 series card, let alone a 9000 series card.

360 is current gen.

 

You wrote all that without thinking I might be talking about the next crop of consoles?

 

$500 6800 ultra was outperformed ony 1 1/2 years when the 360 launched.

 

Considering the next console is 2-3 years away it could easily have a gpu much faster than anything currently available.

 

Gotta draw a picture for some people.

360 launches with its graphics. New better GFX card comes out for PC the next week. PC can keep updating for 5 years, after 5 years 360 still has same old peice of sh*t. You lose.

 

Edit: btw console technology is based on PC technology, you lose again. kthxgtfo

Edited April 21, 2008 by Philljc

[Buster23]

 

But can that pc go 5 years without an upgrade?

 

Even a 9800gx2 is going to struggle with next gen console ports.

Erm can you please show me what you are basing that on ? Let me see if I have got this straight you are saying the 360 with a X1900XT eqivulent gpu and the PS3 with a 7800GTX eqivulent GPU can beat a 9800GX2 !!!!!!

 

You just have to look at the real evidence. Let's just look at COD 4 on the consoles it is :-

 

1024 x 600 with 2 x AA @ 60fps (upscaled to 720p)

 

On my two PC's :-

 

Media PC - 1280 x 800 with 2 x AA @ 60 - 70fps

 

Game PC - 1680 x 1040 with 4 x AA @ 80fps

 

So please tell me why you think that a 9800gx2 would struggle when current cards are not so much struggling as laughing at the console ports.

 

If that isn't enough for you we could look at Mass Effect which is having the graphics IMPROVED for the PC version. How about we look at Crysis on the PC which is rumoured to be coming to the PS3 but at best the graphics will be eqivulent to Medium (my gaming PC can run the game on HIGH settings). Really please show us some evidence that the consoles can even beat an 8000 series card, let alone a 9000 series card.

360 is current gen.

 

You wrote all that without thinking I might be talking about the next crop of consoles?

 

$500 6800 ultra was outperformed ony 1 1/2 years when the 360 launched.

 

Considering the next console is 2-3 years away it could easily have a gpu much faster than anything currently available.

 

Gotta draw a picture for some people.

360 launches with its graphics. New better GFX card comes out for PC the next week. PC can keep updating for 5 years, after 5 years 360 still has same old peice of sh*t. You lose.

 

Edit: btw console technology is based on PC technology, you lose again. kthxgtfo

To the first part: Exactly. Pc hardware keeps updating and you either continue to upgrade and spend more than a console player would or you end up running games on low with poor framerates.

 

Where did I say consoles werent based on pc tech? I just said the 360 has a faster gpu than the 6800 ultra. Major lack of comprehension with some of the people here.

 

Statements like "you lose" are just plain immature.

[CharmingCharlie]

 

You wrote all that without thinking I might be talking about the next crop of consoles?

 

$500 6800 ultra was outperformed ony 1 1/2 years when the 360 launched.

 

Considering the next console is 2-3 years away it could easily have a gpu much faster than anything currently available.

 

Gotta draw a picture for some people.

Well I do apologise for not being a mind reader in thinking you might be talking about the "next" next generation consoles. It is difficult to tell with you lot, you still keep referring to the 360/PS3 as "Next Gen" so it is an easy mistake to make. Your argument is still heavily flawed though. You are now arguing that a PC built today with a 9800gx2 card will not beat some "mythical" new console built 3 years from now, am I right in assuming you are saying that ?

 

Well duh Mr Obvious of course it won't, a console will take 1 year old PC technology (because it is nice and cheap) and incorporate it, hence consoles are a SNAPSHOT that stays that way for 5-6 years. You are basically saying a PC built today with the highest specs will not beat a PC built in 2 years time with the highest specs. I mean we are still governed by Moore's law you know. That basically says every 24 months computing power DOUBLES (obviously not for the consoles because they remain static for 5-6 years).

 

I can tell you now with absolute certainty that when these new "next" gen consoles arrive I will be able to build a PC that not only MATCHES but outperforms them in every way, I did it when the PS1 came out, I did it when the PS2 came out and I have done it when the PS3 came out. Because I will be using NEW PC gear and not settling for 1 year old PC tech that the consoles will settle for. Oh and I bet I will build that computer for my usual budget of £500 a figure that hasn't change since the Pentium 1 days.

 

Naturally you won't accept all this you just keep trolling this thread and making yourself look rather silly in the process. I notice hardly any of your comments actually have any relevance to GTA 4 you just seem to come in here and bash the PC and try to boost your own ego.

[Philljc]

But can that pc go 5 years without an upgrade?

 

Even a 9800gx2 is going to struggle with next gen console ports.

Erm can you please show me what you are basing that on ? Let me see if I have got this straight you are saying the 360 with a X1900XT eqivulent gpu and the PS3 with a 7800GTX eqivulent GPU can beat a 9800GX2 !!!!!!

 

You just have to look at the real evidence. Let's just look at COD 4 on the consoles it is :-

 

1024 x 600 with 2 x AA @ 60fps (upscaled to 720p)

 

On my two PC's :-

 

Media PC - 1280 x 800 with 2 x AA @ 60 - 70fps

 

Game PC - 1680 x 1040 with 4 x AA @ 80fps

 

So please tell me why you think that a 9800gx2 would struggle when current cards are not so much struggling as laughing at the console ports.

 

If that isn't enough for you we could look at Mass Effect which is having the graphics IMPROVED for the PC version. How about we look at Crysis on the PC which is rumoured to be coming to the PS3 but at best the graphics will be eqivulent to Medium (my gaming PC can run the game on HIGH settings). Really please show us some evidence that the consoles can even beat an 8000 series card, let alone a 9000 series card.

360 is current gen.

 

You wrote all that without thinking I might be talking about the next crop of consoles?

 

$500 6800 ultra was outperformed ony 1 1/2 years when the 360 launched.

 

Considering the next console is 2-3 years away it could easily have a gpu much faster than anything currently available.

 

Gotta draw a picture for some people.

360 launches with its graphics. New better GFX card comes out for PC the next week. PC can keep updating for 5 years, after 5 years 360 still has same old peice of sh*t. You lose.

 

Edit: btw console technology is based on PC technology, you lose again. kthxgtfo

To the first part: Exactly. Pc hardware keeps updating and you either continue to upgrade and spend more than a console player would or you end up running games on low with poor framerates.

 

Where did I say consoles werent based on pc tech? I just said the 360 has a faster gpu than the 6800 ultra. Major lack of comprehension with some of the people here.

 

Statements like "you lose" are just plain immature.

I didnt say you did say they were based on PC tech, but you didnt say they weren't either. And what you were alluding too saying was the 360 beat a PC card when it came out. If you want something for graphics, consoles are not the way to go as YOU CANNOT UPGRADE THEIR GPU's, YOU LOSE.

[Buster23]

 

You wrote all that without thinking I might be talking about the next crop of consoles?

 

$500 6800 ultra was outperformed ony 1 1/2 years when the 360 launched.

 

Considering the next console is 2-3 years away it could easily have a gpu much faster than anything currently available.

 

Gotta draw a picture for some people.

Well I do apologise for not being a mind reader in thinking you might be talking about the "next" next generation consoles. It is difficult to tell with you lot, you still keep referring to the 360/PS3 as "Next Gen" so it is an easy mistake to make. Your argument is still heavily flawed though. You are now arguing that a PC built today with a 9800gx2 card will not beat some "mythical" new console built 3 years from now, am I right in assuming you are saying that ?

 

Well duh Mr Obvious of course it won't, a console will take 1 year old PC technology (because it is nice and cheap) and incorporate it, hence consoles are a SNAPSHOT that stays that way for 5-6 years. You are basically saying a PC built today with the highest specs will not beat a PC built in 2 years time with the highest specs. I mean we are still governed by Moore's law you know. That basically says every 24 months computing power DOUBLES (obviously not for the consoles because they remain static for 5-6 years).

 

I can tell you now with absolute certainty that when these new "next" gen consoles arrive I will be able to build a PC that not only MATCHES but outperforms them in every way, I did it when the PS1 came out, I did it when the PS2 came out and I have done it when the PS3 came out. Because I will be using NEW PC gear and not settling for 1 year old PC tech that the consoles will settle for. Oh and I bet I will build that computer for my usual budget of £500 a figure that hasn't change since the Pentium 1 days.

 

Naturally you won't accept all this you just keep trolling this thread and making yourself look rather silly in the process. I notice hardly any of your comments actually have any relevance to GTA 4 you just seem to come in here and bash the PC and try to boost your own ego.

Why would I call something current, next?

 

I'm not bashing the pc. It is the best platform. If I could only have one I'd go with pc.

 

That comment on the 9800gx2 was to someone claiming that pc gaming is only slightly more expensive. Your just taking it out of context.

 

So you built a high end pc in 2000 that cost about twice the price of the PS2. To keep playing new games you would have had to upgrade by 2004. During the PS2's era you spent more than double the cost of the PS2 hardware.

 

You paid more and got a better gaming experience which is right in line with what I've been saying.

 

 

[Buster23]

But can that pc go 5 years without an upgrade?

 

Even a 9800gx2 is going to struggle with next gen console ports.

Erm can you please show me what you are basing that on ? Let me see if I have got this straight you are saying the 360 with a X1900XT eqivulent gpu and the PS3 with a 7800GTX eqivulent GPU can beat a 9800GX2 !!!!!!

 

You just have to look at the real evidence. Let's just look at COD 4 on the consoles it is :-

 

1024 x 600 with 2 x AA @ 60fps (upscaled to 720p)

 

On my two PC's :-

 

Media PC - 1280 x 800 with 2 x AA @ 60 - 70fps

 

Game PC - 1680 x 1040 with 4 x AA @ 80fps

 

So please tell me why you think that a 9800gx2 would struggle when current cards are not so much struggling as laughing at the console ports.

 

If that isn't enough for you we could look at Mass Effect which is having the graphics IMPROVED for the PC version. How about we look at Crysis on the PC which is rumoured to be coming to the PS3 but at best the graphics will be eqivulent to Medium (my gaming PC can run the game on HIGH settings). Really please show us some evidence that the consoles can even beat an 8000 series card, let alone a 9000 series card.

360 is current gen.

 

You wrote all that without thinking I might be talking about the next crop of consoles?

 

$500 6800 ultra was outperformed ony 1 1/2 years when the 360 launched.

 

Considering the next console is 2-3 years away it could easily have a gpu much faster than anything currently available.

 

Gotta draw a picture for some people.

360 launches with its graphics. New better GFX card comes out for PC the next week. PC can keep updating for 5 years, after 5 years 360 still has same old peice of sh*t. You lose.

 

Edit: btw console technology is based on PC technology, you lose again. kthxgtfo

To the first part: Exactly. Pc hardware keeps updating and you either continue to upgrade and spend more than a console player would or you end up running games on low with poor framerates.

 

Where did I say consoles werent based on pc tech? I just said the 360 has a faster gpu than the 6800 ultra. Major lack of comprehension with some of the people here.

 

Statements like "you lose" are just plain immature.

I didnt say you did say they were based on PC tech, but you didnt say they weren't either. And what you were alluding too saying was the 360 beat a PC card when it came out. If you want something for graphics, consoles are not the way to go as YOU CANNOT UPGRADE THEIR GPU's, YOU LOSE.

Of course consoles dont have better graphics. Thats why they're cheaper.

[Philljc]

Then stfu.

 

 

Why would I call something current, next?

 

Dictionary.com reference:

 

The phrase Next Generation is cited as a frequently-used buzzword, in which case its meaning is intentionally vague, but carries a connotation of newness or modernness.

[CharmingCharlie]

 

Why would I call something current, next?

You just don't quit do you. I don't know why you would call current gen "next gen" but your lot still keep doing it. You go anywhere on the net and you will see the 360/PS3 classed as next gen. The fault was yours, you could have easily said "the successors to the 360/PS3 will easily beat a PC equipped with a 9800gx2". I certainly would not have argued that point, but you used the term "next gen" which is still widely applied to the 360/PS3.

 

 

I'm not bashing the pc. It is the best platform. If I could only have one I'd go with pc.

You may think that you think it is the best platform but all I have seen you do is bash it every which way you can. When we show you the PC can easily match the consoles you come up with fanciful scenarios about "mythical" future consoles. Now for all you know the next xbox/PS console could go the direction of the Wii and not actually be all that powerful. You don't know anymore than I do. All I see you doing is finding different ways to attack the PC, when we show you are wrong you just come up with more ways to show how PC gaming is "bad". It is posts from people like you that actually put me off from coming into this thread anymore. I am just so damn sick of having to defend the PC from damn console kiddies.

 

 

That comment on the 9800gx2 was to someone claiming that pc gaming is only slightly more expensive. Your just taking it out of context.

So you are just looking at the hardware then are you ? Did you factor into account that software on the consoles is £10 - £15 MORE expensive. Let me give you a little education in economics. I buy around 20 - 30 games a year, on average PC titles are around £15 cheaper than the console eqivulent. So in one year by staying with the PC platform I save myself £450. Hmm those consoles are not looking as cheap anymore are they Let's say I get four years out of my PC that means I save £1800. So if I went over to the console whilst yes in the short term it would be cheaper, in the long term I would end up spending £1,800 MORE than I would on the PC. I can tell you now what I would rather do.

 

 

So you built a high end pc in 2000 that cost about twice the price of the PS2. To keep playing new games you would have had to upgrade by 2004. During the PS2's era you spent more than double the cost of the PS2 hardware.

 

You paid more and got a better gaming experience which is right in line with what I've been saying.

See my previous comment and tell me that you still think I paid more when you take into account the cost of the software. Oh and please STOP double posting, the edit button exists for a reason.

[Buster23]

 

Then stfu.

 

 

Why would I call something current, next?

 

Dictionary.com reference:

 

The phrase Next Generation is cited as a frequently-used buzzword, in which case its meaning is intentionally vague, but carries a connotation of newness or modernness.

Even a 9800gx2 is going to struggle with next gen console ports.

 

Anyone with half a brain would realize that meant the next Xbox or the next Playstation.

[Philljc]

Then stfu.

 

 

Why would I call something current, next?

 

Dictionary.com reference:

 

The phrase Next Generation is cited as a frequently-used buzzword, in which case its meaning is intentionally vague, but carries a connotation of newness or modernness.

Even a 9800gx2 is going to struggle with next gen console ports.

 

Anyone with half a brain would realize that meant the next Xbox or the next Playstation.

Well you have 3 people here thinking you meant the current systems, versus you and your crappy points. Might want to muster up half of your brain if possible before posting again.

[Buster23]

 

Why would I call something current, next?

You just don't quit do you. I don't know why you would call current gen "next gen" but your lot still keep doing it. You go anywhere on the net and you will see the 360/PS3 classed as next gen. The fault was yours, you could have easily said "the successors to the 360/PS3 will easily beat a PC equipped with a 9800gx2". I certainly would not have argued that point, but you used the term "next gen" which is still widely applied to the 360/PS3.

 

 

I'm not bashing the pc. It is the best platform. If I could only have one I'd go with pc.

You may think that you think it is the best platform but all I have seen you do is bash it every which way you can. When we show you the PC can easily match the consoles you come up with fanciful scenarios about "mythical" future consoles. Now for all you know the next xbox/PS console could go the direction of the Wii and not actually be all that powerful. You don't know anymore than I do. All I see you doing is finding different ways to attack the PC, when we show you are wrong you just come up with more ways to show how PC gaming is "bad". It is posts from people like you that actually put me off from coming into this thread anymore. I am just so damn sick of having to defend the PC from damn console kiddies.

 

 

That comment on the 9800gx2 was to someone claiming that pc gaming is only slightly more expensive. Your just taking it out of context.

So you are just looking at the hardware then are you ? Did you factor into account that software on the consoles is £10 - £15 MORE expensive. Let me give you a little education in economics. I buy around 20 - 30 games a year, on average PC titles are around £15 cheaper than the console eqivulent. So in one year by staying with the PC platform I save myself £450. Hmm those consoles are not looking as cheap anymore are they Let's say I get four years out of my PC that means I save £1800. So if I went over to the console whilst yes in the short term it would be cheaper, in the long term I would end up spending £1,800 MORE than I would on the PC. I can tell you now what I would rather do.

 

 

So you built a high end pc in 2000 that cost about twice the price of the PS2. To keep playing new games you would have had to upgrade by 2004. During the PS2's era you spent more than double the cost of the PS2 hardware.

 

You paid more and got a better gaming experience which is right in line with what I've been saying.

See my previous comment and tell me that you still think I paid more when you take into account the cost of the software. Oh and please STOP double posting, the edit button exists for a reason.

All I ever said was that pc gaming is more expensive in the U.S. and that pc is affected by exclusivity as much as consoles. Please link to a page in this thread where I said pc gaming was bad.

 

There is only a $10 price difference between pc and console games here.

 

I have high standards and only buy a few games per year. GTA 4 is def worth buying. R6 Vegas 2 for instance? No way. I'll probably only play it once so I'll just rent the 360 version for $8 instead of spending $50 on the pc version.

 

Like I said earlier: the 360 practically pays for itself since I can still play these short throwaway games for so cheap.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dude0]

u people look at the things now what about october if they release it then eh what if no computer except one can work it plus gta sa is 2 years old now so of course it could run on a 2 year old graphics chip GTA IV will never heppen on pc ok!

[Jops]

 

u people look at the things now what about october if they release it then eh what if no computer except one can work it plus gta sa is 2 years old now so of course it could run on a 2 year old graphics chip GTA IV will never heppen on pc ok!

Are you sounding dumb on purpose or are you really that stupid? Its late and I'm a little drunk so help me out here

 

 

or maybe English isn't your first language?

[Philljc]

u people look at the things now what about october if they release it then eh what if no computer except one can work it plus gta sa is 2 years old now so of course it could run on a 2 year old graphics chip GTA IV will never heppen on pc ok!

Moron. It is not a case of it not being able to run, because it definately will. Its a case of how much effort the devs will put into it to make it work. Plus GTA SA worked fine max 2 years ago when I had my 7800gt.

[Dude0]

one year from now u'll see u'll all see what i mean they will never release it for pc, it cannot ever run it if ur drunk then listen to me rocstar will not release it if they do i will buy it and u can dm online kk

[freak2121]

one year from now u'll see u'll all see what i mean they will never release it for pc, it cannot ever run it if ur drunk then listen to me rocstar will not release it if they do i will buy it and u can dm online kk

Eughm, it's not about pleasing fans, it's about making money so they will definantly release it on pc to get more money

[Jops]

If it were about pleasing fans all platforms would be released simultaneously or at the very least a reasonable excuse as to why there is a delay would be issued.

[Philljc]

one year from now u'll see u'll all see what i mean they will never release it for pc, it cannot ever run it if ur drunk then listen to me rocstar will not release it if they do i will buy it and u can dm online kk

Maybe in 'one year from now' when 'rocstar' release it for PC you'll be able to type properly. kk.

[Dude0]

they'll make twice as much money as what they have now ps3 costs more than pc games rockstar will never release it for pc never ever ever ever ever ok!

[SynTerro]

they'll make twice as much money as what they have now ps3 costs more than pc games rockstar will never release it for pc never ever ever ever ever ok!

Console games cost more due to licensing, for each copy sold R* don't make any more or less on PC or console

[Fnorg]

they'll make twice as much money as what they have now ps3 costs more than pc games rockstar will never release it for pc never ever ever ever ever ok!

Even with the major pirating on the PC, they would earn zillions more than they put in to it.

 

Crappy XBox port - 12 dollars.

Burning port on poor DVDs - 1027 dollars.

PC gamers being pleased with a sh*tty port - priceless.

 

 

Total earnings: 12,9 trillion dollars

[Democrab]

 

Then stfu.

 

 

Why would I call something current, next?

 

Dictionary.com reference:

 

The phrase Next Generation is cited as a frequently-used buzzword, in which case its meaning is intentionally vague, but carries a connotation of newness or modernness.

Even a 9800gx2 is going to struggle with next gen console ports.

 

Anyone with half a brain would realize that meant the next Xbox or the next Playstation.

A 9800GX2 is just two 8800GTS 512Mb slapped together, In July, when the new ATI and nVidia's REAL 9x00 series launch, say that again, and the reason that PC's can't run most console ports really well is they don't port it right, which they almost NEVER do, GTA gets ported right.

 

 

And the Pirating? Give me a break, its overblown enormously, I do download games, but if its a good game and I like it, I buy it usually (Except if its from EA, see my sig for why, and they have enough money anyway), not to mention, the total members of all my warez forums that I go to counts up to around 5k, and that's not including nonactive members, and ones that go for the console warez (There is a LOT, don't kid yourself) or the custom Linux kernels, and various other stuff (eg. PSP homebrew), in fact, I bet if all the pirates brought a game instead of downloaded it, the amount that the game company's would get wouldn't get anywhere near as close as how much they spend to stop pirating, its Waaay overblown.

 

 

Dude0: So, why are all other GTA's apart from LCS and VCS on PC? And don't say cuz they're the latest, that GTA IV won't be on PC, They weren't on Xbox, and GTA IV is coming out on 360, isn't that right?

[Wma]

 

Then stfu.

 

 

Why would I call something current, next?

 

Dictionary.com reference:

 

The phrase Next Generation is cited as a frequently-used buzzword, in which case its meaning is intentionally vague, but carries a connotation of newness or modernness.

Even a 9800gx2 is going to struggle with next gen console ports.

 

Anyone with half a brain would realize that meant the next Xbox or the next Playstation.

It depends on what graphics hardware it uses I guess. You think they are going to put a brand new 600-$700 card in a console and sell it for $500?

 

Whatever card they do use, the equivalent card for the PC will be a bargain card that can be bought for $100 on the PC I'd bet.

 

My 7900GT that I bought a couple years ago can and will run any game ported from the current gen consoles for their whole life. If anyone wants to run pc/console games now they don't need to buy a 9800gx2. They could just buy an 8800 gt for just over $100 and get much better quality graphics.

Edited April 21, 2008 by Wma

[DML]

 

one year from now u'll see u'll all see what i mean they will never release it for pc, it cannot ever run it if ur drunk then listen to me rocstar will not release it if they do i will buy it and u can dm online kk

 

they'll make twice as much money as what they have now ps3 costs more than pc games rockstar will never release it for pc never ever ever ever ever ok!

I don't know what it is you're smoking, but whatever it is, it's definitely some heavy sh*t.

 

If, by some chance, you're not doing drugs, then I suggest you learn how to write proper English that people can understand, rather than just throwing a bunch of words/letters together and pressing "Add Reply".

[Nemon]

A high end pc will not play new games for 5 years like a console.

 

And a console will get ancient graphics and performace when it reaches the end of its lifespan.

Halo 2 looked and ran better than Halo on xbox.

 

Compare God of War to the early PS2 games.

 

Now compare Doom 3 on high with Bioshock on low.

I repeat my statement. A console will be equipped with 5-6 years old technology when it reaches the end of its lifespan. In other words, ancient.

[eye776]

First of all, we're like 184424 members on this board.

*) less then 40% of the people here on a console that makes ~ 4100 people own a console

*) less then 20% of the people here own 2 consoles or more

*) I'll assume that everyone owns a PC. <30% have a pc capable of playing FarCry at maximum details (the first FarCry)

assuming everyone will buy a copy for each machine (if it runs on their machine) that would make a sure buy around 9000-9500 copies.

Lets assume that some people with worse PC (like me) will also buy the game, tune it down at "worse than worse" level of detail and struggle with it at 25 fps. That makes 200-300 more copies.

 

Even if this situation exists in every forum, that means only a few hundred thousand games would be bought, and the PC sales will be less than 10% of that. (because it requires a high end PC, which most people can't afford).

 

Why on earth given an estimated PC sales figure of < 200.000 copies, would Rockstar want to port GTA IV to the PC?

 

I'm still keeping my hopes high but I'm warning you: DON'T BET ON A PC RELEASE! There's a HIGH chance it WON'T happen.

 

EDIT:

@Nemon : 5-6 year old hardware. True but think about the price of that hardware. Over 8 years from its release date, the PS2 is FINALLY "affordable". And I can still get a USED PIII 512RAM 128Video (yes, ancient) for less than the price of a USED PS2 (not to mention a new one).

Edited April 21, 2008 by eye776

[D.C. Comfort]

 

First of all, we're like 184424 members on this board.

*) less then 40% of the people here on a console that makes ~ 4100 people own a console

*) less then 20% of the people here own 2 consoles or more

*) I'll assume that everyone owns a PC. <30% have a pc capable of playing FarCry at  maximum details (the first FarCry)

assuming everyone will buy a copy for each machine (if it runs on their machine) that would make a sure buy around 9000-9500 copies.

Lets assume that some people with worse PC (like me) will also buy the game, tune it down at "worse than worse"  level of detail and struggle with it at 25 fps. That makes 200-300 more copies.

 

Even if this situation exists in every forum, that means only a few hundred thousand games would be bought, and the PC sales will be less than 10% of that. (because it requires a high end PC, which most people can't afford).

 

Why on earth given an estimated PC sales figure of < 200.000 copies, would Rockstar want to port GTA IV to the PC?

 

I'm still keeping my hopes high but I'm warning you: DON'T BET ON A PC RELEASE! There's a HIGH chance it WON'T happen.

 

EDIT:

@Nemon : 5-6 year old hardware. True but think about the price of that hardware. Over 8 years from its release date, the PS2 is FINALLY "affordable". And I can still get a USED PIII 512RAM 128Video (yes, ancient) for less than the price of a USED PS2 (not to mention a new one).

Don't forget that a PC port is likely to happen 6 months to 1 year from now. Knowing the GTA games, you can predict that the graphics won't age well (it is not the best graphics out there anyway, being designed for the 360 and all). By then, many people will have upgraded their PCs or upgrade then with parts from a year ago that go out at bargain prices. That estimate is also quite close to christmas and we all know what that means.

 

Also, the PC market still is a big player in Europe, especially in Germany - 458 million euros (not including digital distribution) for 2007 and that is "real" gamers only (compare to the console sales of 904 million euros, but that is the 360, the PS3, the Wii, the DS, the PSP, last generation consoles (!) and cellphone games combined and also includes a broader because younger and more casual audience with the handhelds and the Wii. These people aren't likely to play GTA anyway). So yeah, talk about a viable market segment.

 

I remember having this discussion in 2004 about SA, btw.

Edited April 21, 2008 by D.C. Comfort